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As the world reels from the Parisian terror shootings, Attorney General George Brandis has announced new anti-terror laws that come into effect in Australia this week will help keep the country safe from similar attacks. The controversial new laws, which have attracted criticism from legal experts, have given the government more powers to detain and punish extremists who fight overseas or plan to commit terrorist acts in Australia. Senator Brandis said the Paris attacks were an assault on freedom of expression, "the lifeblood of free societies". "Legislation recently passed by the Parliament has strengthened our ability to arrest, monitor, investigate and prosecute returning foreign fighters and anyone who facilitates or supports that activity," he said in a statement. "Provisions which came into effect this week continue to strengthen our control order regime, which make it easier for our security and intelligence agencies to monitor people who are a potential threat to the Australian community." The new laws allow courts to impose control orders that prevent returned foreign fighters from associating with certain people where that would assist in preventing a terrorist attack on Australian soil. Under the new laws, returned fighters who have intentionally been in a declared area face a maximum 10-year jail sentence. Returning fighters linked to listed terrorist organisations also face up to 25 years jail. A new offence, "advocating terror", prohibits promoting or encouraging terrorism and carries a maximum five-year sentence. Control orders can also now be sought if a court is satisfied the order would assist the prevention of a terrorist act, or where a person has engaged in hostile activities overseas or participated in training with a listed terrorist organisation. Lower arrest thresholds mean the police can arrest somebody suspected of being involved in terrorism on "reasonable suspicion", which Mr Brandis claimed would allow law enforcement to disrupt plots at an earlier stage. Courts will have greater flexibility in deciding whether to admit foreign evidence in court proceedings. Funding will be allocated for another 22 investigators and analysts for the Australian Crime Commission. Still before Parliament is another Bill that will allow the government to ask telecommunications companies to retain metadata for two years. The government claims this will help police track and prosecute potential terrorists. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has praised the law changes, even as he said yesterday it was impossible to constantly monitor every extremist returned from fighting overseas.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/islamic-extremist-attack-in-nigeria-named-the-deadliest-massacre-in-history/story-fnihsmjt-1227180726580

Of course, the left disliked the laws.

Egyptian Legal System, here we come.


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Prime Minister Tony Abbott has urged Australians not to be "cowered" from speaking freely on controversial topics following the deadly attacks on the office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hedbo.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/paris-attacks-australians-should-not-be-cowed-from-speaking-freely-tony-abbott-20150110-12ll9r.html

And at the same time the abbott mob wants to squash speech they don't want to here.


Is this what diggers gave their lives for fighting in world wars?

I do not think it is the laws that people will not like, it is the lack of trust that they will be implemented fairly. I personally think that we should not be stopping them going over to fight if they want but no coming back. Stopping them going results in them venting their anger here.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 11:43pm:

Quote: As the world reels from the Parisian terror shootings, Attorney General George Brandis has announced new anti-terror laws that come into effect in Australia this week will help keep the country safe from similar attacks. The controversial new laws, which have attracted criticism from legal experts, have given the government more powers to detain and punish extremists who fight overseas or plan to commit terrorist acts in Australia. Senator Brandis said the Paris attacks were an assault on freedom of expression, "the lifeblood of free societies". "Legislation recently passed by the Parliament has strengthened our ability to arrest, monitor, investigate and prosecute returning foreign fighters and anyone who facilitates or supports that activity," he said in a statement. "Provisions which came into effect this week continue to strengthen our control order regime, which make it easier for our security and intelligence agencies to monitor people who are a potential threat to the Australian community." The new laws allow courts to impose control orders that prevent returned foreign fighters from associating with certain people where that would assist in preventing a terrorist attack on Australian soil. Under the new laws, returned fighters who have intentionally been in a declared area face a maximum 10-year jail sentence. Returning fighters linked to listed terrorist organisations also face up to 25 years jail. A new offence, "advocating terror", prohibits promoting or encouraging terrorism and carries a maximum five-year sentence. Control orders can also now be sought if a court is satisfied the order would assist the prevention of a terrorist act, or where a person has engaged in hostile activities overseas or participated in training with a listed terrorist organisation. Lower arrest thresholds mean the police can arrest somebody suspected of being involved in terrorism on "reasonable suspicion", which Mr Brandis claimed would allow law enforcement to disrupt plots at an earlier stage. Courts will have greater flexibility in deciding whether to admit foreign evidence in court proceedings. Funding will be allocated for another 22 investigators and analysts for the Australian Crime Commission. Still before Parliament is another Bill that will allow the government to ask telecommunications companies to retain metadata for two years. The government claims this will help police track and prosecute potential terrorists. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has praised the law changes, even as he said yesterday it was impossible to constantly monitor every extremist returned from fighting overseas. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/islamic-extremist-attack-in-nigeria-named-the-deadliest-massacre-in-history/story-fnihsmjt-1227180726580 Of course, the left disliked the laws.

Anyone with a brain dislikes the laws.

They are too broad, too vague, and with a stroke of a pen can be used against us as well as the terrorists.

That's NOT good law.

macman wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 6:15am:

I do not think it is the laws that people will not like, it is the lack of trust that they will be implemented fairly. I personally think that we should not be stopping them going over to fight if they want but no coming back. Stopping them going results in them venting their anger here.

I agree. Let them go, give them a farewell package, maybe an Australian flag they can burn when they get there, but once they go they say goodbye to Australia, forever.

The only problem is, can we trust our security services to keep them out?

I wouldn't.

Besides, if we let all the fanatics go, how can we retain the terror alert?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 7:27am:

macman wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 6:15am: I do not think it is the laws that people will not like, it is the lack of trust that they will be implemented fairly. I personally think that we should not be stopping them going over to fight if they want but no coming back. Stopping them going results in them venting their anger here. I agree. Let them go, give them a farewell package, maybe an Australian flag they can burn when they get there, but once they go they say goodbye to Australia, forever. The only problem is, can we trust our security services to keep them out? I wouldn't. Besides, if we let all the fanatics go, how can we retain the terror alert?

>:( >:( >:(  You better DOB me in for what I'm thinking about you   >:( >:( >:( >:(

Sprint, my only regret is that the laws had not been drafted after the Paris events. They could have made them even tougher then and would likely have got them passed.

aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 7:27am: macman wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 6:15am: I do not think it is the laws that people will not like, it is the lack of trust that they will be implemented fairly. I personally think that we should not be stopping them going over to fight if they want but no coming back. Stopping them going results in them venting their anger here. I agree. Let them go, give them a farewell package, maybe an Australian flag they can burn when they get there, but once they go they say goodbye to Australia, forever. The only problem is, can we trust our security services to keep them out? I wouldn't. Besides, if we let all the fanatics go, how can we retain the terror alert? >:( >:( >:(  You better DOB me in for what I'm thinking about you   >:( >:( >:( >:(

That comment might have something to do with anti terror laws, but you'd be excused for wondering what exactly.....angry faces???????