When will the murderous Muslims stop?


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/09/boko-haram-deadliest-massacre-baga-nigeria




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Boko Haram's 'deadliest massacre': 2,000 feared dead in Nigeria Amnesty International calls the killings ‘a disturbing and bloody escalation’ and a local defence group says its fighters have given up trying to count the bodies. Hundreds of bodies – too many to count – remain strewn in the bush in Nigeria from an Islamic extremist attack that Amnesty International described as the “deadliest massacre” in the history of Boko Haram. Fighting continued on Friday around Baga, a town on the border with Chad where insurgents seized a key military base on 3 January and attacked again on Wednesday. “Security forces have responded rapidly, and have deployed significant military assets and conducted air strikes against militant targets,” said a government spokesman. District head Baba Abba Hassan said most victims are children, women and elderly people who could not run fast enough when insurgents drove into Baga, firing rocket-propelled grenades and assault rifles on town residents.

That's what they mean by a pieceful(sic) religion. You find pieces of bodies everywhere ;)

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 9:11pm:

That's what they mean by a pieceful(sic) religion. You find pieces of bodies everywhere ;)

Hi Sir Nail,
Strange that when 12 people are killed in France - it's big news but

when 2,000 are slaughtered in Nigeria it hardly rates a mention on the news or a comment here.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/09/africa/boko-haram-violence/index.html


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Boko Haram amps up attacks on Nigerian villages 01:12 Story highlights     Deaths number in the hundreds, one official says; another says it is 2,000     After the attack, Boko Haram also razed homes Kano, Nigeria (CNN)Boko Haram militants opened fire on northern Nigerian villages, leaving bodies scattered everywhere and as many as 2,000 people feared dead, officials said. "The attack on Baga and surrounding towns looks as if it could be Boko Haram's deadliest act," Amnesty International said in a statement. Islamist militants sprayed bullets as they stormed in last weekend in trucks and armored vehicles, local authorities said Friday. When they arrived, they unloaded motorcycles and pursued residents who fled into the bush, firing indiscriminately, said Baba Abba Hassan, a local district head. Local officials reported death tolls ranging from hundreds to as many as 2,000 people. "Dead bodies litter the bushes in the area and it is still no‎t safe to go and pick them (up) for burial," said Musa Bukar, the chairman of the local government where Baga is located. "Some people who hid in their homes were burned alive." Raid lasted for days During the raid that started January 3, hundreds of gunmen seized the town of Baga and neighboring villages, as well as a multinational military base. Attacks started at dawn and continued throughout last weekend, according to residents. Though local officials gave conflicting death tolls, they agreed on the massive number of fatalities. More than 2,000 people were killed in attacks on 16 villages, Bukar said. He could not explain how he arrived at that toll. But the local district head said hundreds of people had been killed, not thousands. The actual toll will be known after a headcount of households is complete, Hassan said. An offensive is underway to reclaim the areas from the militants, according to Mike Omeri, a government spokesman.

Just to balance this thread.

Christians murder 6,000  people.



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Christian militias in Central African Republic have carried out ethnic cleansing of the Muslim population during the country's ongoing civil war, but there is no proof there was genocidal intent, a United Nations commission of inquiry has said. "Thousands of people died as a result of the conflict. Human rights violations and abuses were committed by all parties. The Seleka coalition and the anti-balaka are also responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity," the inquiry said on Thursday. "Although the commission cannot conclude that there was genocide, ethnic cleansing of the Muslim population by the anti-balaka constitutes a crime against humanity," the report said. Interactive: The war across the river The final report of the inquiry, which was submitted to the UN Security Council on December 19, said up to 6,000 people had been killed though it "considers that such estimates fail to capture the full magnitude of the killings that occurred". The mostly Christian or animist "anti-balaka" militia took up arms in 2013 in response to months of looting and killing by mostly Muslim Seleka rebels who had toppled President Francois Bozize and seized power in March the same year. The UN Security Council established the commission of inquiry in December 2013.

Is it time to ban religion?

Muslims strapping bombs to children:


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-11/bomb-strapped-to-girl-kills-19-in-nigeria-reports/6010694


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Bomb strapped to girl 'about 10 years old' kills 19 in Maiduguri, north-eastern Nigeria: Red Cross, vigilante Updated about 5 hours agoSun 11 Jan 2015, 1:39am Related Story: Boko Haram suspected of raid on Nigeria's Damaturu city Related Story: Bomb blast in Nigeria bus station kills 20: Red Cross Map: Nigeria At least 19 people were killed when a young girl, thought to be aged about 10, blew herself up at a crowded market in the northeast Nigerian city of Maiduguri, police say. The powerful explosion rocked the market at about 12:40pm (local time) when it was packed with shoppers and traders. Borno State police spokesman Gideon Jubrin told reporters: "Casualty figure: 20 dead and 18 injured, including the female suicide bomber that detonated the improvised explosive device." The same market was hit twice by female suicide bombers late last year. Borno State police said 18 people had been injured in the latest attack. There was no immediate claim of responsibility but Boko Haram militants have increasingly used women and young girls as human bombs in their six-year quest for a hardline Islamic state. Civilian vigilante Ashiru Mustapha said the explosives detonated as the girl was being searched at the entrance to the market. "The girl was about 10 years old and I doubt much if she actually knew what was strapped to her body," he told AFP news agency. "In fact, she was searched at the entrance of the market and the metal detector indicated that she was carrying something. "But sadly, the explosion went off before she was isolated, killing at least 10 people and injuring many others." The market was cordoned off as health officials began the grim task of sifting through the wreckage and collecting body parts. A Red Cross official, who declined to give his name, said 10 bodies had been taken to the mortuary at the Borno State Specialist Hospital. "Many people sustained life-threatening injuries," he said. An attack at the market on December 1 killed more than 10 people, and the previous week more than 45 people lost their lives in an attack there. Boko Haram launched its first female suicide attack in June last year in the northern state of Gombe and there have been a spate of bombings since, including four in a week in the city of Kano. In July, a 10-year-old girl was found in Katsina state wearing a suicide vest, prompting speculation that young girls were being forced into becoming human bombs rather than through ideological motivation. AFP

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:58am:

Just to balance this thread. Christians murder 6,000  people. Quote: Christian militias in Central African Republic have carried out ethnic cleansing of the Muslim population during the country's ongoing civil war, but there is no proof there was genocidal intent, a United Nations commission of inquiry has said. "Thousands of people died as a result of the conflict. Human rights violations and abuses were committed by all parties. The Seleka coalition and the anti-balaka are also responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity," the inquiry said on Thursday. "Although the commission cannot conclude that there was genocide, ethnic cleansing of the Muslim population by the anti-balaka constitutes a crime against humanity," the report said. Interactive: The war across the river The final report of the inquiry, which was submitted to the UN Security Council on December 19, said up to 6,000 people had been killed though it "considers that such estimates fail to capture the full magnitude of the killings that occurred". The mostly Christian or animist "anti-balaka" militia took up arms in 2013 in response to months of looting and killing by mostly Muslim Seleka rebels who had toppled President Francois Bozize and seized power in March the same year. The UN Security Council established the commission of inquiry in December 2013. Is it time to ban religion?

There is a big difference between killing in the name of religion, and a religious person killing for a purpose.

Had that Muslim cop in Paris shot the terrorist last week before they could kill him, it would have been a Muslim killing people for a purpose, but it would not be killing in the name of a religion. Yes the person killing is religious, but their religion is completely irrelevant. It is just a cop doing his job.

Read the highlighted part. It wasn't just Christians involved, and the killing happened in retaliation to previous attacks. The retaliations were also many small attacks over a period of time, not just one big slaughter. Their religion is irrelevant to the actions. It was self preservation by a mixture of religions coming under attack by Muslims over a long period of time, and especially over the last couple of years.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:58am:

Is it time to ban religion?

How would that be achieved?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved?

An Act of parliament.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:10am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament.

How would that be enforced?

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There is a big difference between killing in the name of religion, and a religious person killing for a purpose.

The underlying cause is religion.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:10am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament. How would that be enforced?

The Police & the courts.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:11am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:10am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament. How would that be enforced? The Police & the courts.

How will the police and courts know that I have faith, and that I'm practicing religion in my home?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

Quote: There is a big difference between killing in the name of religion, and a religious person killing for a purpose. The underlying cause is religion.

You idiot bobby. Learn to read an entire post before commenting. Here is the next part that you ignored;


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Had that Muslim cop in Paris shot the terrorist last week before they could kill him, it would have been a Muslim killing people for a purpose, but it would not be killing in the name of a religion. Yes the person killing is religious, but their religion is completely irrelevant. It is just a cop doing his job

Where is religion the underlying cause?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved?

Starve them of tax payers money and make religious institutions pay tax on their takings.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? Starve them of tax payers money and make religious institutions pay tax on their takings.

You don't need institutions in order to have religion.

How will the police and courts know that I have faith, and that I'm practicing religion in my home?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:13am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:12am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:11am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:10am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament. How would that be enforced? The Police & the courts. How will the police and courts know that I have faith, and that I'm practicing religion in my home?

They will have secret microphones & hear your prayers.

Quantum wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:04am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Just to balance this thread. Christians murder 6,000  people. Quote: Christian militias in Central African Republic have carried out ethnic cleansing of the Muslim population during the country's ongoing civil war, but there is no proof there was genocidal intent, a United Nations commission of inquiry has said. "Thousands of people died as a result of the conflict. Human rights violations and abuses were committed by all parties. The Seleka coalition and the anti-balaka are also responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity," the inquiry said on Thursday. "Although the commission cannot conclude that there was genocide, ethnic cleansing of the Muslim population by the anti-balaka constitutes a crime against humanity," the report said. Interactive: The war across the river The final report of the inquiry, which was submitted to the UN Security Council on December 19, said up to 6,000 people had been killed though it "considers that such estimates fail to capture the full magnitude of the killings that occurred". The mostly Christian or animist "anti-balaka" militia took up arms in 2013 in response to months of looting and killing by mostly Muslim Seleka rebels who had toppled President Francois Bozize and seized power in March the same year. The UN Security Council established the commission of inquiry in December 2013. Is it time to ban religion? There is a big difference between killing in the name of religion, and a religious person killing for a purpose. Had that Muslim cop in Paris shot the terrorist last week before they could kill him, it would have been a Muslim killing people for a purpose, but it would not be killing in the name of a religion. Yes the person killing is religious, but their religion is completely irrelevant. It is just a cop doing his job. Read the highlighted part. It wasn't just Christians involved, and the killing happened in retaliation to previous attacks. The retaliations were also many small attacks over a period of time, not just one big slaughter. Their religion is irrelevant to the actions. It was self preservation by a mixture of religions coming under attack by Muslims over a long period of time, and especially over the last couple of years.

that doesn't make any sense. Take religion out of the equation and that is one less reason to kill another.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:19am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:17am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? Starve them of tax payers money and make religious institutions pay tax on their takings. You don't need institutions in order to have religion. How will the police and courts know that I have faith, and that I'm practicing religion in my home?

people can believe in mickey mouse if they want. It is their choice of course. What you don't want is organized institutions drumming their gob gobbing muck into people from a very young age particularly through schools which tax payers are paying for.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:13am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:12am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:11am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:10am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament. How would that be enforced? The Police & the courts. How will the police and courts know that I have faith, and that I'm practicing religion in my home? They will have secret microphones & hear your prayers.

Sir Booby, you are almost as naive as you are gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Banning religion is impossible.

I'd like to see religion disappear from the face of the Earth, however, it's never going to be achieved by legislation.

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I'd like to see religion disappear from the face of the Earth, however, it's never going to be achieved by legislation.

Then we're doomed.

Abrahamic religions are by definition - death cults.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

Quantum wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:04am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Just to balance this thread. Christians murder 6,000  people. Quote: Christian militias in Central African Republic have carried out ethnic cleansing of the Muslim population during the country's ongoing civil war, but there is no proof there was genocidal intent, a United Nations commission of inquiry has said. "Thousands of people died as a result of the conflict. Human rights violations and abuses were committed by all parties. The Seleka coalition and the anti-balaka are also responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity," the inquiry said on Thursday. "Although the commission cannot conclude that there was genocide, ethnic cleansing of the Muslim population by the anti-balaka constitutes a crime against humanity," the report said. Interactive: The war across the river The final report of the inquiry, which was submitted to the UN Security Council on December 19, said up to 6,000 people had been killed though it "considers that such estimates fail to capture the full magnitude of the killings that occurred". The mostly Christian or animist "anti-balaka" militia took up arms in 2013 in response to months of looting and killing by mostly Muslim Seleka rebels who had toppled President Francois Bozize and seized power in March the same year. The UN Security Council established the commission of inquiry in December 2013. Is it time to ban religion? There is a big difference between killing in the name of religion, and a religious person killing for a purpose. Had that Muslim cop in Paris shot the terrorist last week before they could kill him, it would have been a Muslim killing people for a purpose, but it would not be killing in the name of a religion. Yes the person killing is religious, but their religion is completely irrelevant. It is just a cop doing his job. Read the highlighted part. It wasn't just Christians involved, and the killing happened in retaliation to previous attacks. The retaliations were also many small attacks over a period of time, not just one big slaughter. Their religion is irrelevant to the actions. It was self preservation by a mixture of religions coming under attack by Muslims over a long period of time, and especially over the last couple of years. that doesn't make any sense. Take religion out of the equation and that is one less reason to kill another.

It makes perfect sense. There are many times when killing happens that has nothing to do with religion. The person killing may be religious, but their killing of another has nothing to do with their religion.

If a cop shoots a terrorist, does it matter that the cop may be Christian, Muslims, atheist, etc? Of course not. It has nothing to do with why they shot the terrorist.

If a Muslims man shoots his neighbour because his neighbour raped his 5 year old daughter, then that has nothing to do with Islam. However, if a Muslims man shoots his neighbour because his neighbour is an atheist and his lifestyle disrespects Allah, then that has everything to do with Islam.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

people can believe in mickey mouse if they want. It is their choice of course. What you don't want is organized institutions drumming their gob gobbing muck into people from a very young age particularly through schools which tax payers are paying for.

How will you stop parents from "drumming their gob gobbing muck" into their children, in the privacy of their own homes?

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It makes perfect sense. There are many times when killing happens that has nothing to do with religion.

This thread is not about that:


Muslims murder 2,000 people

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:32am:

Quote: It makes perfect sense. There are many times when killing happens that has nothing to do with religion. This thread is not about that: Muslims murder 2,000 people

And I wasn't talking about that. It was a reply to your Christians kill 6000 people and your call to ban all regions based on that, when your own quote shows that it was actually groups of different religions defending themselves over a period of time and smaller engagements resulting in many deaths. In other words, local villages protecting themselves, not people killing in the name of any one religion.

So how does banning religion change that? You don't think atheist will protect themselves when being killed for years?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:13am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:12am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:11am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:10am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament. How would that be enforced? The Police & the courts. How will the police and courts know that I have faith, and that I'm practicing religion in my home? They will have secret microphones & hear your prayers. Sir Booby, you are almost as naive as you are gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Banning religion is impossible. I'd like to see religion disappear from the face of the Earth, however, it's never going to be achieved by legislation.

then stop funding religious schools and stop giving religious institutions tax free status. They will soon disappear ;)

Quantum wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:32am: Quote: It makes perfect sense. There are many times when killing happens that has nothing to do with religion. This thread is not about that: Muslims murder 2,000 people And I wasn't talking about that. It was a reply to your Christians kill 6000 people and your call to ban all regions based on that, when your own quote shows that it was actually groups of different religions defending themselves over a period of time and smaller engagements resulting in many deaths. In other words, local villages protecting themselves, not people killing in the name of any one religion. So how does banning religion change that? You don't think atheist will protect themselves when being killed for years?

Atheist's certainly won't be killing each other over the difference between the writings in some old book.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:52am:

stop funding religious schools and stop giving religious institutions tax free status. They will soon disappear ;)

Agreed, taxpayers should not have to finance the spread of delusional ideas.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:52am:

then stop funding religious schools and stop giving religious institutions tax free status. They will soon disappear ;)

You seem to be as naive as Sir Booby.

Cutting funding from religious schools and institutions will not make religion disappear.

How will you stop parents from "drumming their gob gobbing muck" into their children, in the privacy of their own homes?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:01am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:52am: then stop funding religious schools and stop giving religious institutions tax free status. They will soon disappear ;) You seem to be as naive as Sir Booby. Cutting funding from religious schools and institutions will not make religion disappear. How will you stop parents from "drumming their gob gobbing muck" into their children, in the privacy of their own homes?

You can't stop it but you can diminish it.

The Internet and the dissemination of information has certainly impacted on it as well.

And kids aren't interested in that Sunday school sh.t anymore. It is so boring and out of date. It is so yesterday.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

Quantum wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:42am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:32am: Quote: It makes perfect sense. There are many times when killing happens that has nothing to do with religion. This thread is not about that: Muslims murder 2,000 people And I wasn't talking about that. It was a reply to your Christians kill 6000 people and your call to ban all regions based on that, when your own quote shows that it was actually groups of different religions defending themselves over a period of time and smaller engagements resulting in many deaths. In other words, local villages protecting themselves, not people killing in the name of any one religion. So how does banning religion change that? You don't think atheist will protect themselves when being killed for years? Atheist's certainly won't be killing each other over the difference between the writings in some old book.

And that is not what was happening in bobby's quote. Many of the people killing to protect themselves don't even believe in god as such. They are people who are animist. Half the people voting for the greens in Australia are not that different to them.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:18am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:01am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:52am: then stop funding religious schools and stop giving religious institutions tax free status. They will soon disappear ;) You seem to be as naive as Sir Booby. Cutting funding from religious schools and institutions will not make religion disappear. How will you stop parents from "drumming their gob gobbing muck" into their children, in the privacy of their own homes? You can't stop it but you can diminish it. The Internet and the dissemination of information has certainly impacted on it as well. And kids aren't interested in that Sunday school sh.t anymore. It is so boring and out of date. It is so yesterday.

Hear hear Sir Nail,

I remember my school days - a public school but they were
always drumming religion into us -

and of course it was Christianity.

Quantum wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:54am: Quantum wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:42am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:32am: Quote: It makes perfect sense. There are many times when killing happens that has nothing to do with religion. This thread is not about that: Muslims murder 2,000 people And I wasn't talking about that. It was a reply to your Christians kill 6000 people and your call to ban all regions based on that, when your own quote shows that it was actually groups of different religions defending themselves over a period of time and smaller engagements resulting in many deaths. In other words, local villages protecting themselves, not people killing in the name of any one religion. So how does banning religion change that? You don't think atheist will protect themselves when being killed for years? Atheist's certainly won't be killing each other over the difference between the writings in some old book. And that is not what was happening in bobby's quote. Many of the people killing to protect themselves don't even believe in god as such. They are people who are animist. Half the people voting for the greens in Australia are not that different to them.

and 40% of people in the US still believe the universe is less than 6000 years old. You can add you to that list as well ;)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:18am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:01am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:52am: then stop funding religious schools and stop giving religious institutions tax free status. They will soon disappear ;) You seem to be as naive as Sir Booby. Cutting funding from religious schools and institutions will not make religion disappear. How will you stop parents from "drumming their gob gobbing muck" into their children, in the privacy of their own homes? You can't stop it but you can diminish it. The Internet and the dissemination of information has certainly impacted on it as well. And kids aren't interested in that Sunday school sh.t anymore. It is so boring and out of date. It is so yesterday. Hear hear Sir Nail, I remember my school days - a public school but they were always drumming religion into us - and of course it was Christianity.

That's exactly what happens with other religions as well. It should be classified as a form of child abuse.

I'm not really sure why these idiots are still running rampant. Wasn't there some Pan-African coalition sent in against them?

Says a lot about the ineptitude of the Nigerian military.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:22am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:54am: Quantum wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:42am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:32am: Quote: It makes perfect sense. There are many times when killing happens that has nothing to do with religion. This thread is not about that: Muslims murder 2,000 people And I wasn't talking about that. It was a reply to your Christians kill 6000 people and your call to ban all regions based on that, when your own quote shows that it was actually groups of different religions defending themselves over a period of time and smaller engagements resulting in many deaths. In other words, local villages protecting themselves, not people killing in the name of any one religion. So how does banning religion change that? You don't think atheist will protect themselves when being killed for years? Atheist's certainly won't be killing each other over the difference between the writings in some old book. And that is not what was happening in bobby's quote. Many of the people killing to protect themselves don't even believe in god as such. They are people who are animist. Half the people voting for the greens in Australia are not that different to them. and 40% of people in the US still believe the universe is less than 6000 years old. You can add you to that list as well ;)

And that.... No, really, WTF has that got to do with anything in this thread? That has to be the most irrelevant and retarded reply I have ever seen. It is so far off topic and so disconnected to everything said before it that one has to wonder exactly how hard bob was popping you in the ear for you to go ahead and post that. It just makes no sense at all. Obviously just a sad attempt to have the last word when you simply have nothing to respond with. What a waste of time.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:51am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:18am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:01am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:52am: then stop funding religious schools and stop giving religious institutions tax free status. They will soon disappear ;) You seem to be as naive as Sir Booby. Cutting funding from religious schools and institutions will not make religion disappear. How will you stop parents from "drumming their gob gobbing muck" into their children, in the privacy of their own homes? You can't stop it but you can diminish it. The Internet and the dissemination of information has certainly impacted on it as well. And kids aren't interested in that Sunday school sh.t anymore. It is so boring and out of date. It is so yesterday. Hear hear Sir Nail, I remember my school days - a public school but they were always drumming religion into us - and of course it was Christianity. That's exactly what happens with other religions as well. It should be classified as a form of child abuse.

Yes Sir Nail,
religion has at least to be ramped down in schools.

Maybe they should be able to teach kids about different religions
but not ram one in particular down their throats.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 12:37pm:

I'm not really sure why these idiots are still running rampant. Wasn't there some Pan-African coalition sent in against them? Says a lot about the ineptitude of the Nigerian military.

Yes the Boko Haram Muslim idiots -

another human cancer on the planet.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:10am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament.

It would be over-turned by the High Court within seconds, Bobby.  Section 116 of the Constitution assures that.  I've made that point numerous times to you and others but you keep ignoring it.  Why?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:10am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament. It would be over-turned by the High Court within seconds, Bobby.  Section 116 of the Constitution assures that.  I've made that point numerous times to you and others but you keep ignoring it.  Why?   ::)

I am just looking for simple solutions to complex problems.
Let the kids at school see this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RT6rL2UroE

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:24pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:10am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament. It would be over-turned by the High Court within seconds, Bobby.  Section 116 of the Constitution assures that.  I've made that point numerous times to you and others but you keep ignoring it.  Why?   ::) I am just looking for simple solutions to complex problems.

Why do you assume that complex problems can be solved with simple solutions?  Particularly simple solutions which are illegal and seek to subvert the cornerstone of our democratic institutions and our sovereignty?  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:24pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:10am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament. It would be over-turned by the High Court within seconds, Bobby.  Section 116 of the Constitution assures that.  I've made that point numerous times to you and others but you keep ignoring it.  Why?   ::) I am just looking for simple solutions to complex problems. Why do you assume that complex problems can be solved with simple solutions?  Particularly simple solutions which are illegal and seek to subvert the cornerstone of our democratic institutions and our sovereignty?  ::)

Because religion is bullshit & so

they are teaching kids bullshit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RT6rL2UroE

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:24pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:10am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:08am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:58am: Is it time to ban religion? How would that be achieved? An Act of parliament. It would be over-turned by the High Court within seconds, Bobby.  Section 116 of the Constitution assures that.  I've made that point numerous times to you and others but you keep ignoring it.  Why?   ::) I am just looking for simple solutions to complex problems. Why do you assume that complex problems can be solved with simple solutions?  Particularly simple solutions which are illegal and seek to subvert the cornerstone of our democratic institutions and our sovereignty?  ::) Because religion is bullshit & so they are teaching kids bullshit.

You're still not explaining how a simple solution will solve what you've admitted is a complex problem, Bobby.   In fact, you're now doing your typical dodge and weave.   Lets get back to the original point:

How are you going to ban religion?

We know you can't stop people practising their faith in private.  You can't legislate to ban religion 'cause the Constitution won't allow you to.  Looks to me like the idea of banning religion is pretty dead in the water.

So, now the so-called "simple solution" has been sunk, why don't you acknowledge you need complex solutions to complex problems?   ::)

Dear Brian,
many blessings

it may still be possible to ban religion if a strong enough case was made.

If not at least it could be banned in our schools -

how about that?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:11pm:

Dear Brian, many blessings it may still be possible to ban religion if a strong enough case was made. If not at least it could be banned in our schools - how about that?

In our public state funded schools?  Don't have a problem with that.  Indeed, I've long been unhappy with the increasing intrusion of any religion into that arena.

However, you cannot prevent privately funded schools, established on the basis of religion teaching religion.  Section 116 again.

Guess where the fundies indoctrinate their kids?  It usually isn't in schools, it's at home, Bobby.

I say ban home schooling.   All kids should have to attend schools, simple as that.  At least that way what they are taught is out in the open.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:11pm: Dear Brian, many blessings it may still be possible to ban religion if a strong enough case was made. If not at least it could be banned in our schools - how about that? In our public state funded schools?  Don't have a problem with that.  Indeed, I've long been unhappy with the increasing intrusion of any religion into that arena. However, you cannot prevent privately funded schools, established on the basis of religion teaching religion.  Section 116 again. Guess where the fundies indoctrinate their kids?  It usually isn't in schools, it's at home, Bobby. I say ban home schooling.   All kids should have to attend schools, simple as that.  At least that way what they are taught is out in the open.   ::)

Yes - parents indoctrinate their kids with their beliefs - it's like a computer virus.

I call it child abuse.

A fair education would try & explain many religions.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:35pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 12:37pm: I'm not really sure why these idiots are still running rampant. Wasn't there some Pan-African coalition sent in against them? Says a lot about the ineptitude of the Nigerian military. Yes the Boko Haram Muslim idiots - another human cancer on the planet.

bump

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:35pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 12:37pm: I'm not really sure why these idiots are still running rampant. Wasn't there some Pan-African coalition sent in against them? Says a lot about the ineptitude of the Nigerian military. Yes the Boko Haram Muslim idiots - another human cancer on the planet. bump

Anybody disagreed with you, Bobby?  What are you looking for exactly?  Some controversy?  I don't think you'll find any on that topic.  Stop being a troll.  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:16pm:

I say ban home schooling.   All kids should have to attend schools, simple as that.  At least that way what they are taught is out in the open.

That wouldn't work.

They can still be home schooled after hours, and on the weekends.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 12:37pm:

I'm not really sure why these idiots are still running rampant. Wasn't there some Pan-African coalition sent in against them? Says a lot about the ineptitude of the Nigerian military.

Yes. They're tinted.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:10am:

Stop being a troll

Why don't you practice what you preach? ::) ;D ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:16pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:11pm: Dear Brian, many blessings it may still be possible to ban religion if a strong enough case was made. If not at least it could be banned in our schools - how about that? In our public state funded schools?  Don't have a problem with that.  Indeed, I've long been unhappy with the increasing intrusion of any religion into that arena. However, you cannot prevent privately funded schools, established on the basis of religion teaching religion.  Section 116 again. Guess where the fundies indoctrinate their kids?  It usually isn't in schools, it's at home, Bobby. I say ban home schooling.   All kids should have to attend schools, simple as that.  At least that way what they are taught is out in the open.   ::) A fair education would try & explain many religions.

Indeed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_religion

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:06am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:16pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:11pm: Dear Brian, many blessings it may still be possible to ban religion if a strong enough case was made. If not at least it could be banned in our schools - how about that? In our public state funded schools?  Don't have a problem with that.  Indeed, I've long been unhappy with the increasing intrusion of any religion into that arena. However, you cannot prevent privately funded schools, established on the basis of religion teaching religion.  Section 116 again. Guess where the fundies indoctrinate their kids?  It usually isn't in schools, it's at home, Bobby. I say ban home schooling.   All kids should have to attend schools, simple as that.  At least that way what they are taught is out in the open.   ::) A fair education would try & explain many religions. Indeed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_religion

Thanks Greg.

The massacre of 2000 people finally got on to the ABC news tonight.