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Title: Messiah / God Complex Post by Mattywisk on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:32am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex
A messiah complex (also known as the Christ complex or savior complex) is a state of mind in which an individual holds a belief that they are, or are destined to become, a savior. The term "messiah complex" is not addressed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), but symptoms of the disorder closely resemble those found in individuals suffering from grandiose delusions (GD) or delusions of grandeur. This form of delusional belief is most often reported in patients suffering from bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. Little is known about the disorder, but it is believed that as many as 10% of the population may hold similar beliefs in one form or another, though not significant enough to warrant a diagnosis.[1] Examples include Jim Jones, David Koresh[2] and Imran Khan.[3][4][5] A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility. A person with a god complex may refuse to admit the possibility of their error or failure, even in the face of complex or intractable problems or difficult or impossible tasks, or may regard their personal opinions as unquestionably correct.[1][2] The individual may disregard the rules of society and require special consideration or privileges.[1] God complex is not a clinical term or diagnosable disorder, and does not appear in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). The first person to use the term god-complex was Ernest Jones (1913-51).[3] His description, at least in the contents page of Essays in Applied Psycho-Analysis, describes the god complex as belief that one is a god.[4] Mental illness is a horrible thing. |
Title: Re: Messiah Complex Post by Mattywisk on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:33am
I think this thread is a good place to discuss this complex and how to help people that have it.
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Title: Re: Messiah Complex Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:41am Mattywisk wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:33am:
Why shatter their delusions of grandeur? Two very bad sports when it came to the public voting their egotistical arse out of office was Gough Whitlam and Paul Keating ... and Rudd, of course. |
Title: Re: Messiah Complex Post by Mattywisk on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:46am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:41am:
Fair enough. But it is nice to be able to help someone achieve a normal sane life again that can constructively contribute to society and hopefully not suffer from mental illness. |
Title: Re: Messiah Complex Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:59am Mattywisk wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:46am:
During one of my voluntary stays at one of Sydney's Psychiatric hospitals many years ago, we had someone there who thought he was Lord Nelson or Napoleon (I can't remember which). You would think this would have made him happy, but he spent a lot of time crying (when he wasn't violently snatching the glasses off the face of anyone who came within grabbing distance of him). |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Mattywisk on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:05am
Yeah it is certainly a complex beast the old brain the way it is wired.
It is like some people need to hit reset and let it fire back up again with default settings. Finding that reset is the whole problem I think. Today's technology has come long way though, and treatments. The issue I guess then would be how do so many people get the individual treatment and attention they need. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:43am Mattywisk wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:05am:
After several personal acquaintances as an inpatient and as an outpatient with the psychiatric profession ~ I'm no longer a Believer. They are a Victimhood industry that does very little of any practical benefit for their patients. The best that can be said for psychiatrists is that occasionally, more by fluke than good judgment, they prescribe medication that has an improving effect upon a patient. That was not the case with myself, my elder brother who was schizophrenic, or my mother who was a bundle of nerves. I would bump into patients who had been released from the hospitals, who were just as bad as when they went in. Crying on my shoulder and full of despair. I had suicides going on in the same ward as I was in. Three of them in just a short time ~ and the psychiatrist in charge of them taught at the University of Sydney on Thursdays. What a joke. I signed myself out in disgust. Useless as tits on a bull. So what's your interest here, Mattywisk? |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Yadda on Dec 14th, 2014 at 8:44am Mattywisk wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:05am:
The reset button. If you seek a re-start/reset button, read the book of Psalms and the book of Proverbs. The book of Psalms and the book of Proverbs are full of 'wholeness' and health, to our spirit. +++ Its not rocket science!!! :) We are spirit beings. And for a time we are imprisoned in these clay 'houses'. This life is a distraction [is distracting!], but all of the choices which we make here, reveal 'what we are about'. Even here [i.e. within this 'prison'], we have the power to choose [for ourselves]. We can make good choices, and/or, we can make poor choices. Making good choices, we tend toward mental clarity. Continually making poor choices, we tend toward mental confusion. Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Stratos on Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:33am Yadda wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 8:44am:
Maybe you read a different psalm 147 than me :P |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:55am
Matty,
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I hope there is no one like that on Ozpolitic? |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 14th, 2014 at 11:52am Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:55am:
Apart from It_is_the_light you mean?? |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 14th, 2014 at 1:44pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 11:52am:
Does he think he's the Messiah? |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:09pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 1:44pm:
He fits the description. (And it's quite possible that he does) |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:38pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:09pm:
One definition is: 3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Messiah master Light has liberated me from being unable forgive others. I was even able to forgive Longy. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:44pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
Well Bobby, read the highlighted definition in the preceding posts. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:51pm Quote:
No - master Light is too humble to believe such things. Dear Gizmo, you are forgiven namaste |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by jackmountain on Dec 16th, 2014 at 7:33pm
he he he good one
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Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 17th, 2014 at 12:16pm
master Light has changed his avatar:
It's sort of an angel rather than a picture of Jesus. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Yadda on Dec 17th, 2014 at 12:21pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 12:16pm:
2 Corinthians 11:14 .....for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Do they love the spirit of truth ? |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by jackmountain on Dec 18th, 2014 at 9:23pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 12:16pm:
I wonder if he can morph into one of these. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 18th, 2014 at 11:26pm
Yadda,
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Are you saying that master Light is a false prophet? |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by jackmountain on Dec 18th, 2014 at 11:36pm
You would have to be thick if you can't see he suffers from Messiah / God Complex.
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Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 18th, 2014 at 11:38pm jackmountain wrote on Dec 18th, 2014 at 11:36pm:
But he does have infinite forgiveness - surely a sign of someone special? |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by jackmountain on Dec 18th, 2014 at 11:49pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 18th, 2014 at 11:38pm:
Because he told you so ? :D |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 19th, 2014 at 12:04am jackmountain wrote on Dec 18th, 2014 at 11:49pm:
He wrote - Quote:
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Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by jackmountain on Dec 19th, 2014 at 12:13am Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2014 at 12:04am:
Yep Messiah / God Complex |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by jackmountain on Dec 19th, 2014 at 12:15am
it is better to conquer thyself than to win 1000 battles...
61,100,000 results Yep the guy certainly is original. We should call him professor Google |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 21st, 2014 at 11:36am jackmountain wrote on Dec 19th, 2014 at 12:15am:
But master Light means what he says. forgiven namaste |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Mohammed on Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:01pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2014 at 11:36am:
You mean he means what he quotes like most other people appear to when they quote something. Unless its just to appear like they are knowledgeable of course by sitting on someone elses shoulders and sucking in pleb followers. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 13th, 2015 at 5:55am
master Light has Christ's light shown in those who have ascended -
ascended beings. namaste |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by PZ547 on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:54am
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Jesus didn't have a god complex That's why his message is still fresh after 2000 years |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Yadda on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:37am PZ547 wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:54am:
No ? John 10:30 I and my Father are one. John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? . Quote:
Jesus followers appeared to have 'a god complex', about Jesus. ? Mark 9:2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. 3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them. 4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus. 5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 6 For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid. 7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him. 8 And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves. Luke 9:28-32 In the Gospels, there are accounts of Jesus crucifixion and death. But the New Testament also records that Jesus was witnessed by many, to have been seen alive afterwards. Luke 24:33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, 34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon. 35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread. 36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. 37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. 38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. 41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? 42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. 43 And he took it, and did eat before them. 44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. 1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. Not possible ? Just a faerie story ? |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by PZ547 on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:50am . Deal with it, Yadda Jesus was humble Jesus lived, ate, walked with his disciples He rode on a donkey He broke bread with the common folk all day long He washed the feet of the diseased He tended to the poor He spoke the vernacular He was seen to suffer and die His message was not about him but about the promise of eternal life for those who believed in the God he called his 'father' Jesus was an inspiration He's still going strong and he didn't have to marry and rape a little kid to gain followers Jesus didn't advocate killing all non-believers Jesus preached PEACE Jesus knew what PEACE is Jesus was NOT AFRAID of peace Jesus promised forgiveness for ALL Jesus was and is the very best example ever to be tossed up by any religion known to mankind |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Yadda on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:19am PZ547 wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:50am:
Well said. Jesus also performed miracles, he healed the sick, and raised the dead. And Jesus promised forgiveness for, .....all who repented their sins. Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 11:20 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not: Matthew 6:33 ....seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness.... Luke 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Jesus message was the exact same message, ....that had been given to mankind in the Old Testament scripture; Isaiah 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 13th, 2015 at 5:50pm PZ547 wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:50am:
But unfortunately it was all a myth. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:40pm Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:43am:
I think a large part of psychosis is anger and all medication can do is act as an anesthetic providing some temporary relief and so letting the patient get some sleep and good food into them... but resolving the anger really comes down to them... and the worst part is when people need family and/or friends they simply aren't there: usually because so much insulting behaviour on everyones part has taken place making communication impossible. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Mohammed on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:51pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 5:50pm:
Because you say so. ;D You're not very bright (pun intended) are you son. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 13th, 2015 at 9:27pm
Just an Egyptian myth plagiarized by Jews:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=METHqzNFD2M |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 13th, 2015 at 9:39pm SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 9:30pm:
You can thank me for hearing about Horus the Sun God. you are forgiven namaste |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 13th, 2015 at 9:59pm SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 9:50pm:
I believe that those who make errors - such as you - can be forgiven. with very much love and so it is namaste |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:21pm Quote:
Allow master Light to lead you out of darkness. namaste |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 14th, 2015 at 4:17am SweetLambo wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 12:35am:
forgiven for being a troll namaste |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 14th, 2015 at 2:31pm SweetLambo wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 2:30pm:
Judge not lest you be judged namaste |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Richdude on Mar 1st, 2015 at 1:47am SweetLambo wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
Truthfully - what you perceive in others is what you perceive in yourself. Mr Light has taught you a valuable lesson - you need to express much gratitude to him. |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by Richdude on Mar 1st, 2015 at 5:14am SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 1:49am:
You can levitate too! |
Title: Re: Messiah / God Complex Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 1st, 2015 at 1:54pm SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 1:53pm:
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