"The church's Truth, Justice and Healing Council to respond to the Royal Commission into child sexual abuse today released an activity report conceding that "obligatory celibacy" may have contributed to decades of child abuse involving the clergy, and that ongoing training was necessary for priests".

link

The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

"The church's Truth, Justice and Healing Council to respond to the Royal Commission into child sexual abuse today released an activity report conceding that "obligatory celibacy" may have contributed to decades of child abuse involving the clergy, and that ongoing training was necessary for priests". link The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children.

PLease show your working for this statement?

So which bit is complete nonsense?

How can the vast number be married with children? Bisexual surely.

Catholic church concedes celibacy may have contributed to child sex abuse

Now there's a news flash!

But celibacy is not much of a vow anyway considering that in a wider sense it means abstinence from sexual activity -- and one would presume that child sex abuse was... err...sexual activity.

But the thing is, if they were able to have open relationships, like being married as they were once, they might be less driven to covert operations.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children.

Hey Herbie, you forgot to provide the link that supports your claim.

I'm sure it was just an oversight.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children.

Exactly. The lesson is clear. If you have get married and have kids, it'll turn you gay. If you're lucky.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

So which bit is complete nonsense?

The assumption that bachelors hanker for paedophile flesh more than do married men with children.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

So which bit is complete nonsense?

"The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children."

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

How can the vast number be married with children? Bisexual surely.

Homosexual at best ~ paedophile at worse.

The answer is for respectability, acceptance amongst their peers, career reasons (stable family man able to accept responsibility), and many of the homosexuals genuinely want to have children.

PS. There is actually no such entity as a 'bisexual'. University studies have shown there are only homosexuals and straights. Either of these indulging in 'bisexual' acts does not make them 'homosexual' any more than the vast number of straights in jail who perform homosexual acts means they are homosexuals.
 

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

But the thing is, if they were able to have open relationships, like being married as they were once, they might be less driven to covert operations.

Very doubtful. I'm straight, and I couldn't imagine myself under any circumstances 'using' children as a sexual convenience.

Almost every paedophile celebrity who has recently been 'outed' in the UK has been long-time married, with several children.

The stereotype is not some leering dirty old man .. but a well-presented, well-spoken, much-admired luminary of the entertainment business or in politics.

Whole legions of married Anglican priests were also outed at the same time as the Catholic priests.

And now look at these Australian swimming coaches who are queuing up to face child molestation charges from their former students. All 'respectable' married men with children.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

The stereotype is not some leering dirty old man .. but a well-presented, well-spoken, much-admired luminary of the entertainment business or in politics.

Abbott's in the clear then.


http://lipmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/tony-abbott-baby.jpg

Where is gandalf when you need him to moderate the trolls into silence?

He's just kicked Hot Breath's arse in the other thread.

I'm putting him on my Christmas Card list.  8-) Gandalf, that is.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:26pm:

Where is gandalf when you need him to moderate the trolls into silence? He's just kicked Hot Breath's arse in the other thread. I'm putting him on my Christmas Card list.  8-) Gandalf, that is.

Indeed.

We're still waiting on the troll king to provide some evidence to substantiate his claim:

"The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children."

So far, nothing.

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

But the thing is, if they were able to have open relationships, like being married as they were once, they might be less driven to covert operations.

I don't think so. If that was the case child sexual abuse would be virtually contained within the Catholic Church, but we know it is far reaching within the community.

I think it's more likely linked to pervertism and opportunity.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

"The church's Truth, Justice and Healing Council to respond to the Royal Commission into child sexual abuse today released an activity report conceding that "obligatory celibacy" may have contributed to decades of child abuse involving the clergy, and that ongoing training was necessary for priests". link The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children.

celibacy is not a biblical concept and is a foolish thing to impose and it does have ramifications like this.  However child sex offenders come from all walks of life and genders.  it has no boundaries by age, religion, culture or gender.  it just IS.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:26pm: Where is gandalf when you need him to moderate the trolls into silence? He's just kicked Hot Breath's arse in the other thread. I'm putting him on my Christmas Card list.  8-) Gandalf, that is. Indeed. We're still waiting on the troll king to provide some evidence to substantiate his claim: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." So far, nothing.

most child sex offenders are in fact married or in de facto relationships.  that is based on the fact that the VAST MAJORITY of child sex offences occur within the family unit.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:30pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:26pm: Where is gandalf when you need him to moderate the trolls into silence? He's just kicked Hot Breath's arse in the other thread. I'm putting him on my Christmas Card list.  8-) Gandalf, that is. Indeed. We're still waiting on the troll king to provide some evidence to substantiate his claim: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." So far, nothing. most child sex offenders are in fact married or in de facto relationships.  that is based on the fact that the VAST MAJORITY of child sex offences occur within the family unit.

Still waiting for some evidence to back this up:

"The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children."

Will the troll king come good?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

We're still waiting on the troll king

I think I feel a song coming on... To the tune of "Weasley is our king"...
Ahem...

Herbie is our king,
He cannot prove a single thing,
That is why all the trolls will sing:
Herbie is our King

Herbie is our King,
Herbie is our King,
He always stirs the boiling pot,
Herbie is our King

Herbie cannot prove a thing,
He cannot post a single zing. ..
(Louder!)
Take it on the chin,
He always posts the waffle in,
Oz-politic!

Herbie will make sure we win,
Herbie is our king. ..
Herbie takes a swing. ..

That's why all the trolls will sing:
Herbie is our king

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:30pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:26pm: Where is gandalf when you need him to moderate the trolls into silence? He's just kicked Hot Breath's arse in the other thread. I'm putting him on my Christmas Card list.  8-) Gandalf, that is. Indeed. We're still waiting on the troll king to provide some evidence to substantiate his claim: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." So far, nothing. most child sex offenders are in fact married or in de facto relationships.  that is based on the fact that the VAST MAJORITY of child sex offences occur within the family unit. Still waiting for some evidence to back this up: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." Will the troll king come good?

boys make up almost half of the children abused and men are the abusers in around 70% of cases.  that gives a man/boy sexual abuse category that is very large and far more than the 1-2% of the population that is gay.  While it is very improper nowadays to suggest such a thin, it also implies that is a higher rate of sexual abuse coming out of the gay community than the straight.  I don't see it as particularly relevant or helpful but it would appear to be largely tru just the same.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:55pm: longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:30pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:26pm: Where is gandalf when you need him to moderate the trolls into silence? He's just kicked Hot Breath's arse in the other thread. I'm putting him on my Christmas Card list.  8-) Gandalf, that is. Indeed. We're still waiting on the troll king to provide some evidence to substantiate his claim: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." So far, nothing. most child sex offenders are in fact married or in de facto relationships.  that is based on the fact that the VAST MAJORITY of child sex offences occur within the family unit. Still waiting for some evidence to back this up: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." Will the troll king come good? ... it also implies that is a higher rate of sexual abuse coming out of the gay community than the straight.

It doesn't, and there isn't.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 3:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:55pm: longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:30pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:26pm: Where is gandalf when you need him to moderate the trolls into silence? He's just kicked Hot Breath's arse in the other thread. I'm putting him on my Christmas Card list.  8-) Gandalf, that is. Indeed. We're still waiting on the troll king to provide some evidence to substantiate his claim: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." So far, nothing. most child sex offenders are in fact married or in de facto relationships.  that is based on the fact that the VAST MAJORITY of child sex offences occur within the family unit. Still waiting for some evidence to back this up: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." Will the troll king come good? ... it also implies that is a higher rate of sexual abuse coming out of the gay community than the straight.  It doesn't, and there isn't.

your pedantry fails you when it suits.  It DOES imply it but it doesn't PROVE it.  and your claim to the contrary is simple unproven opinion.

epic fail.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 3:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:17pm: longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:55pm: longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:30pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:26pm: Where is gandalf when you need him to moderate the trolls into silence? He's just kicked Hot Breath's arse in the other thread. I'm putting him on my Christmas Card list.  8-) Gandalf, that is. Indeed. We're still waiting on the troll king to provide some evidence to substantiate his claim: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." So far, nothing. most child sex offenders are in fact married or in de facto relationships.  that is based on the fact that the VAST MAJORITY of child sex offences occur within the family unit. Still waiting for some evidence to back this up: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." Will the troll king come good? ... it also implies that is a higher rate of sexual abuse coming out of the gay community than the straight.  It doesn't, and there isn't. your pedantry fails you when it suits.  It DOES imply it but it doesn't PROVE it.  and your claim to the contrary is simple unproven opinion. epic fail.

You're the one making a claim: it's up to you to substantiate that claim.

I'm still waiting for the troll king to substantiate his.

I won't be holding my breathe waiting for either of you, though: you two are well known for never providing evidence.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:50pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:17pm: longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:55pm: longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:30pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:26pm: Where is gandalf when you need him to moderate the trolls into silence? He's just kicked Hot Breath's arse in the other thread. I'm putting him on my Christmas Card list.  8-) Gandalf, that is. Indeed. We're still waiting on the troll king to provide some evidence to substantiate his claim: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." So far, nothing. most child sex offenders are in fact married or in de facto relationships.  that is based on the fact that the VAST MAJORITY of child sex offences occur within the family unit. Still waiting for some evidence to back this up: "The vast majority of not only homosexuals, but paedophiles, are married men with children." Will the troll king come good? ... it also implies that is a higher rate of sexual abuse coming out of the gay community than the straight.  It doesn't, and there isn't. your pedantry fails you when it suits.  It DOES imply it but it doesn't PROVE it.  and your claim to the contrary is simple unproven opinion. epic fail. You're the one making a claim: it's up to you to substantiate that claim. I'm still waiting for the troll king to substantiate his. I won't be holding my breathe waiting for either of you, though: you two are well known for never providing evidence.

its basic mathematics that fails you as it did once before. if 20+% of child sex offences are man/boy and the gay population is 1/10 of that you have a strong suggestion that the gay community is responsible for more than is pro-rata share of child sex offences. Like I said, it is not proof, but it is strongly suggestive that there is an element of truth to it.

see what you can do if you can COUNT?

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 4:10pm:

its basic mathematics that fails you as it did once before. if 20+% of child sex offences are man/boy and the gay population is 1/10 of that you have a strong suggestion that the gay community is responsible for more than is pro-rata share of child sex offences. Like I said, it is not proof, but it is strongly suggestive that there is an element of truth to it. see what you can do if you can COUNT?

"you two are well known for never providing evidence"

And the trend continues.

In the old days of the Church In Ireland, the priests were married and were the local head men... something that retains some aura to this day in the veneration of priests....

St Patrick... whom an ancient ancestor of mine released from bondage.. brought the Roman heresy of celibacy to the church.... and ruined it forever.

The Roman heresy was based on some pagan idea that not shagging made one holy.. I figure just holey in the head meself.... dang some Buddhists and such believe that retaining the holy sperm will turn that energy back inwards to the soul.... you ask me it turns back inwards and makes them an asshole....

Very strange and outdated idea....

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 4:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 4:10pm: its basic mathematics that fails you as it did once before. if 20+% of child sex offences are man/boy and the gay population is 1/10 of that you have a strong suggestion that the gay community is responsible for more than is pro-rata share of child sex offences. Like I said, it is not proof, but it is strongly suggestive that there is an element of truth to it. see what you can do if you can COUNT? "you two are well known for never providing evidence" And the trend continues.

pitiful.  the evidence for it is the mathematics which as always, you are unable to fathom.  I'm surprised at how mathematically ignorant you are.

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 4:17pm:

In the old days of the Church In Ireland, the priests were married and were the local head men... .

Pun intended?

And then we have the kiddy-fiddlers in the person of the notoriously suspect 'boyfriends' or de facto husbands of divorced young mothers.

Young girls getting sexually abused by the infamous 'new boyfriend' of their divorced mothers ~ often with the connivance of these feral mothers.

And then the stereotype of the abusing uncles ~ most of them married with their own families.

It's time the myth of the single adult male being a paedophile predator was laid to rest.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

boys make up almost half of the children abused and men are the abusers in around 70% of cases.  that gives a man/boy sexual abuse category that is very large and far more than the 1-2% of the population that is gay.  While it is very improper nowadays to suggest such a thin, it also implies that is a higher rate of sexual abuse coming out of the gay community than the straight.  I don't see it as particularly relevant or helpful but it would appear to be largely tru just the same.

Child sexual abuse being predominately a phenomenon of the gay community is something I'm not convinced of. I would need to see the stats.

Which are statistically more sexually interfered with: boys or girls? I don't know, but my guess is that most women have a story of at least one creep attempting to grope them. Not all men can say that.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

And then we have the kiddy-fiddlers in the person of the notoriously suspect 'boyfriends' or de facto husbands of divorced young mothers. Young girls getting sexually abused by the infamous 'new boyfriend' of their divorced mothers ~ often with the connivance of these feral mothers. And then the stereotype of the abusing uncles ~ most of them married with their own families. It's time the myth of the single adult male being a paedophile predator was laid to rest.

Now we get to the crux of the issue... I'd wager herbie's been accused of being a ped a few times around here? (I hasten to add that I don't think he is one).

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

And then we have the kiddy-fiddlers in the person of the notoriously suspect 'boyfriends' or de facto husbands of divorced young mothers. Young girls getting sexually abused by the infamous 'new boyfriend' of their divorced mothers ~ often with the connivance of these feral mothers. And then the stereotype of the abusing uncles ~ most of them married with their own families. It's time the myth of the single adult male being a paedophile predator was laid to rest.

its not a myth. it is a stereotype and not completely wrong.  the reality is that it is ANYONE, married or mot married, male or female, any culture, any age.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:03pm: boys make up almost half of the children abused and men are the abusers in around 70% of cases.  that gives a man/boy sexual abuse category that is very large and far more than the 1-2% of the population that is gay.  While it is very improper nowadays to suggest such a thin, it also implies that is a higher rate of sexual abuse coming out of the gay community than the straight.  I don't see it as particularly relevant or helpful but it would appear to be largely tru just the same. Child sexual abuse being predominately a phenomenon of the gay community is something I'm not convinced of. I would need to see the stats. Which are statistically more sexually interfered with: boys or girls? I don't know, but my guess is that most women have a story of at least one creep attempting to grope them. Not all men can say that.

the stats seem to suggest it is a bit higher in the gay community although that is far from proven. but you can bet no such study would ever be conducted unless the results came out in their favour.

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

Now we get to the crux of the issue... I'd wager herbie's been accused of being a ped a few times around here? (I hasten to add that I don't think he is one).

Here we go again with these destructive pests posting with nothing to say but juvenile classroom antics again.

And in another thread ...

... just baiting with not the slightest interest in addressing the subject.

link

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

... It's time the myth of the single adult male being a paedophile predator was laid to rest.

Ain't THAT the bloody truth!

I'd wager that more than half the single adult male population today would prefer to stay that way. It's cheaper.

This 'friends with benefits' BS is exactly that - BS. It's merely a label designed to assuage the consciences of the 'cougar' set and those unable to control themselves among the civilised.

I view the outrages emerging from societies such as the priesthood as failures of everybody to learn the lessons of the past and to ignore mountains of research into confining large numbers of members of the same sex.

JHC! What do you expect?

The perverts, however, those who run in disguise ans aliases while acting like predators - they are a different question.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:26pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 7:19pm: Now we get to the crux of the issue... I'd wager herbie's been accused of being a ped a few times around here? (I hasten to add that I don't think he is one). Here we go again with these destructive pests posting with nothing to say but juvenile classroom antics again. And in another thread ... ... just baiting with not the slightest interest in addressing the subject. link

Like this effort from Peccerhead? 


Datalife wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 7:41pm: If that were the case, I could say "Soren, Data and Longy are gay lovers (not that there's anything wrong with that) who often invite underage boys into their basement on Sunday nights" and never be challenged on it, just by saying "It’s like gravity or time - you just know it.". Not that I would say such a thing, of course. Let me know if you come up with something, though.  I'll be here. LOL,  yeah you meant nothing... You are deeply deluded if you think your "who me, farted?" act is in any way convincing to any one.

If you follow the links you will see he has deleted his disgusting insinuation. 

Datalife wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:51pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 7:26pm: MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 7:19pm: Now we get to the crux of the issue... I'd wager herbie's been accused of being a ped a few times around here? (I hasten to add that I don't think he is one). Here we go again with these destructive pests posting with nothing to say but juvenile classroom antics again. And in another thread ... ... just baiting with not the slightest interest in addressing the subject. link Like this effort from Peccerhead?  Datalife wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 7:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 7:41pm: If that were the case, I could say "Soren, Data and Longy are gay lovers (not that there's anything wrong with that) who often invite underage boys into their basement on Sunday nights" and never be challenged on it, just by saying "It’s like gravity or time - you just know it.". Not that I would say such a thing, of course. Let me know if you come up with something, though.  I'll be here. LOL,  yeah you meant nothing... You are deeply deluded if you think your "who me, farted?" act is in any way convincing to any one. If you follow the links you will see he has deleted his disgusting insinuation.

Well caught!

And I agree with you, it's quite a disgusting insinuation. And its deletion would apparently indicate that the poster has belatedly realised that they may have overstepped the very lenient mark here.

As an aside, could such a comment be described as 'trolling'?

Let's ask Herb, the oft described 'King of the Trolls'.

What say you, Herb?

Have you ever descended to such levels?

And if you had, would you have expected, or accepted, an admonishment from myself or others and then apologised?

Perhaps, therein, lies a deeper question.

Just sayin'.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:26pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 7:19pm: Now we get to the crux of the issue... I'd wager herbie's been accused of being a ped a few times around here? (I hasten to add that I don't think he is one). Here we go again with these destructive pests posting with nothing to say but juvenile classroom antics again.

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 9:12pm:

What say you, Herb? Have you ever descended to such levels? And if you had, would you have expected, or accepted, an admonishment from myself or others and then apologised?

Herbert, are you actually saying you're offended? Because I said I don't think you're a pedophile? In that case, I stand admonished and apologise -- in the interests of harmony.

Let the record show I've tried to do my bit. But, as the song goes, "Herbie is our king".

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 9:30pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 7:26pm: MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 7:19pm: Now we get to the crux of the issue... I'd wager herbie's been accused of being a ped a few times around here? (I hasten to add that I don't think he is one). Here we go again with these destructive pests posting with nothing to say but juvenile classroom antics again. Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 9:12pm: What say you, Herb? Have you ever descended to such levels? And if you had, would you have expected, or accepted, an admonishment from myself or others and then apologised? Herbert, are you actually saying you're offended? Because I said I don't think you're a pedophile? In that case, I stand admonished and apologise -- in the interests of harmony. Let the record show I've tried to do my bit. But, as the song goes, "Herbie is our king".

Geez, don't be so sensitive!

I wasn't having a shot at you.

You've left out all those lines in between and made it personal.

Sheesh! Some people!

It's not ALWAYS about YOU.

Lionel, I know you weren't having a shot at me. I quoted you for the part about herbert not being man enough to apologise, so he couldn't whine about not getting an apology. Who'd have guessed he'd be offended at being called not a pedophile?

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 1:52pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 10:51am: So which bit is complete nonsense? The assumption that bachelors hanker for paedophile flesh more than do married men with children.

It's more than being a bachelor... Being a priest requires making a conscious decision whereas being a bachelor doesn't necessarily.

Atleast pell admitted there could be a connection but in my view he wasn't speaking about being a bachelor at all... He was speaking about being a priest where a much more deliberate decision about lifestyle is being made!

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:38pm:

It's more than being a bachelor... Being a priest requires making a conscious decision whereas being a bachelor doesn't necessarily. Atleast pell admitted there could be a connection but in my view he wasn't speaking about being a bachelor at all... He was speaking about being a priest where a much more deliberate decision about lifestyle is being made!

I read that at the seminary in the Vatican where recruits are trained for the priesthood, it was no secret that some of the applicants were sexual fruitcakes who laughed and carried on with each other quite openly.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

boys make up almost half of the children abused and men are the abusers in around 70% of cases.  that gives a man/boy sexual abuse category that is very large and far more than the 1-2% of the population that is gay.  While it is very improper nowadays to suggest such a thin, it also implies that is a higher rate of sexual abuse coming out of the gay community than the straight.  I don't see it as particularly relevant or helpful but it would appear to be largely tru just the same.

The fatal flaw in your logic Longy is that you are assuming that man/boy sexual abuse is homosexual, but this is not the case. I will actually provide a link for this fact (which is a rarity on this thread).

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html


Quote:

Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

Herbie, the logical fallacy in your own argument is the fact that most men are married or in relationships. Therefore it stands to reason that they would be over represented in the statistics. But being married does not make someone more likely to become a pedophile which is what you seem to be implying

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 13^th, 2014 at 9:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:03pm: boys make up almost half of the children abused and men are the abusers in around 70% of cases.  that gives a man/boy sexual abuse category that is very large and far more than the 1-2% of the population that is gay.  While it is very improper nowadays to suggest such a thin, it also implies that is a higher rate of sexual abuse coming out of the gay community than the straight.  I don't see it as particularly relevant or helpful but it would appear to be largely tru just the same. The fatal flaw in your logic Longy is that you are assuming that man/boy sexual abuse is homosexual, but this is not the case. I will actually provide a link for this fact (which is a rarity on this thread). http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html Quote: Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted). Herbie, the logical fallacy in your own argument is the fact that most men are married or in relationships. Therefore it stands to reason that they would be over represented in the statistics. But being married does not make someone more likely to become a pedophile which is what you seem to be implying

Now there's something you don't hear every day:

"your logic Longy"

"Herbie ... your own argument"

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 13^th, 2014 at 9:59am:

Herbie, the logical fallacy in your own argument is the fact that most men are married or in relationships. Therefore it stands to reason that they would be over represented in the statistics. But being married does not make someone more likely to become a pedophile which is what you seem to be implying

Christ, give me strength.

I wasn't 'implying' anything. I don't 'imply' things. I make statements while the rest of you take notes and study them for your homework. That's how it works.
8-)

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 13^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

Now there's something you don't hear every day: "your logic Longy" "Herbie ... your own argument"

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 13^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

I wasn't 'implying' anything. I don't 'imply' things. I make statements while the rest of you take notes and study them for your homework. That's how it works.

Herbert doesn't make arguments. He tells it as it is.

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 14^th, 2014 at 5:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 10:02am: Now there's something you don't hear every day: "your logic Longy" "Herbie ... your own argument" Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 12:09pm: I wasn't 'implying' anything. I don't 'imply' things. I make statements while the rest of you take notes and study them for your homework. That's how it works. Herbert doesn't make arguments. He tells it as it is.

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Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 13^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 9:59am: Herbie, the logical fallacy in your own argument is the fact that most men are married or in relationships. Therefore it stands to reason that they would be over represented in the statistics. But being married does not make someone more likely to become a pedophile which is what you seem to be implying Christ, give me strength. I wasn't 'implying' anything. I don't 'imply' things. I make statements while the rest of you take notes and study them for your homework. That's how it works. 8-)

Why? Is Oh Yeah's homework to do an assignment on internet trolls?

John Smith wrote on Dec 14^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 12:09pm: The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 9:59am: Herbie, the logical fallacy in your own argument is the fact that most men are married or in relationships. Therefore it stands to reason that they would be over represented in the statistics. But being married does not make someone more likely to become a pedophile which is what you seem to be implying Christ, give me strength. I wasn't 'implying' anything. I don't 'imply' things. I make statements while the rest of you take notes and study them for your homework. That's how it works. 8-) Why? Is Oh Yeah's homework to do an assignment on internet trolls?

Perhaps someone could put a new wallpaper design on Herbie's computer.


http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/trolls/internet6.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14^th, 2014 at 6:03pm:

Perhaps someone could put a new wallpaper design on Herbie's computer.

dick troll.
John Smith wrote on Dec 14^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

Why? Is Oh Yeah's homework to do an assignment on internet trolls?

Precisely.  8-)
The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 13^th, 2014 at 9:59am:

Herbie, the logical fallacy

Herbie, logical fallacy? Surely ne'r shall the twain meet.