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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist ! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1418334183 Message started by Greens_Win on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:43am

Title: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by Greens_Win on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:43am

So the woman basher slash male dominated cabinet creator slash PPL backflipper is calling his fellow bedmates sexist.

Is this another barnacle he is trying to remove from his rear end.

www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/peta-credlin-critics-are-sexist-tony-abbott-claims-during-tv-slap-down-20141211-125hxi.html

Title: Re: Pot Calling Kettle Sexist !
Post by adelcrow on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:46am

Yep...I think every person in the country laughed when Abbott played the sexism card over Credlin ;D

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by Dnarever on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:56am

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Ministers and backbenchers have accused Ms Credlin of ruling the government with an iron fist and questioned key strategic decisions.

Long-running tensions again spilled into the public arena this week when Fairfax Media revealed Mr Abbott's office blocked Foreign Minister Julie Bishop from attending climate talks in Lima. She only obtained permission to go after after taking the matter to cabinet.

During an interview with ABC News Breakfast on Friday, Mr Abbott strongly backed his chief of staff and said her attackers wouldn't be so vocal if Ms Credlin was a man.

"Do you really think my chief of staff would be under this kind of criticism if her name was Peter as opposed to Peta?" Mr Abbott asked the ABC's Lyndal Curtis.

"I think people need to take a long hard look at themselves with some of these criticisms.

"If people have a problem with my office obviously they can tell me because what my office does is what I ask my office to do."

Ministers and backbenchers have accused Ms Credlin of ruling the government with an iron fist and questioned key strategic decisions.

Sounds like sex based criticism ? NOT.

Long-running tensions again spilled into the public arena this week when Fairfax Media revealed Mr Abbott's office blocked Foreign Minister Julie Bishop from attending climate talks in Lima. She only obtained permission to go after after taking the matter to cabinet.

Julie Bishop is one of those complaining well we all know that he is sexist ???

Abbott is an idiot.

If this guy was on life support they would do a brain activity measurement and decide to turn the machines off.

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by Armchair_Politician on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:29am

____ wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:43am:

Straight off the bat you lose all credibility calling him a woman basher, given the unproven allegation is that he punched a wall.

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by Aussie on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:31am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

____ wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:43am:

Straight off the bat you lose all credibility calling him a woman basher, given the unproven allegation is that he punched a wall.

Ho hum, here we go again. On her version of events, corroborated by two witnesses Abbott unlawfully assaulted her.

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CRIMINAL CODE 1899 - SECT 245
245 Definition of assault

(1) A person who strikes, touches, or moves, or otherwise applies force of any kind to, the person of another, either directly or indirectly, without the other person's consent, or with the other person's consent if the consent is obtained by fraud, or who by any bodily act or gesture attempts or threatens to apply force of any kind to the person of another without the other person's consent, under such circumstances that the person making the attempt or threat has actually or apparently a present ability to effect the person's purpose, is said to assault that other person, and the act is called an assault.

(2) In this section—

applies force includes the case of applying heat, light, electrical force, gas, odour, or any other substance or thing whatever if applied in such a degree as to cause injury or personal discomfort.

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by Armchair_Politician on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 12:48pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

____ wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:43am:

Straight off the bat you lose all credibility calling him a woman basher, given the unproven allegation is that he punched a wall.

Ho hum, here we go again. On her version of events, corroborated by two witnesses Abbott unlawfully assaulted her.

Quote:

You still got nothing and neither does his accusers, or else they'd sign a stat dec, which they haven't.

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by John Smith on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 12:54pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

____ wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:43am:

Straight off the bat you lose all credibility calling him a woman basher, given the unproven allegation is that he punched a wall.

Ho hum, here we go again. On her version of events, corroborated by two witnesses Abbott unlawfully assaulted her.

Quote:

You still got nothing and neither does his accusers, or else they'd sign a stat dec, which they haven't.

have you signed a stat dec. proving otherwise? then you've got nothing ;D ;D ;D

see how stupid that logic is

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by Redneck on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 1:14pm

She is one mean looking bitch, no way I would take her on in a brawl.

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by Kat on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 1:17pm

One bowel-movement defending another... and both being
defended by other bowel-movements...effing hilarious.

Flush the lot of them!

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by Aussie on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 1:37pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

____ wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:43am:

Straight off the bat you lose all credibility calling him a woman basher, given the unproven allegation is that he punched a wall.

Ho hum, here we go again. On her version of events, corroborated by two witnesses Abbott unlawfully assaulted her.

Quote:

You still got nothing and neither does his accusers, or else they'd sign a stat dec, which they haven't.

Dunno how many times you need to be told before it actually sinks in, but I'm gonna keep telling you.

The female victim was called a liar in a newspaper for making these allegations. She reacted with far better than a Stat Dec. She sued the newspaper for defamation and the matter was heading to Court. The newspaper backpedaled and settled the claim. That'll do me.

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by Aussie on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 1:45pm

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Kroger defo case revives stories of Abbott’s uni past
Margot Saville | Dec 03, 2012 1:00PM | EMAIL | PRINT

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Back when Barbara Ramjan told the media that Tony Abbott punched the wall next to her head in 1977, key Liberal figure Michael Kroger accused her of lying. Ramjan’s now suing Kroger for defamation.

When former Liberal Party powerbroker Michael Kroger went on the record four months ago, branding Barbara Ramjan a serial liar, he could not have picked a worse target. If the first rule of defamation is “don’t slag off a lawyer”, then the second rule should be “don’t criticise a judge’s wife”.

Ramjan, of course, is the woman who leapt into the headlines in September after telling writer David Marr that after she defeated Tony Abbott to become president of the Students Representative Council at Sydney Uni in 1977, Abbott stood in front of her, raised his fist and punched the wall either side of her head. Abbott has denied this claim.

Arguments about this raged for weeks, with everyone who was at Sydney Uni at the time weighing in, either for or against. Kroger then made statements to The Australian newspaper implying she was lying, and to Alan Jones on his 2GB breakfast program. Jones was contacted by mutual friends after the broadcast, pointing out Ramjan has a PhD, works tirelessly for the underprivileged in her capacity as a social worker and is married to one of the country’s most distinguished lawyers, Greg James QC. James has recently retired from the NSW Supreme Court and has returned to the Sydney bar.

Jones’ apology the next day, unprompted by legal threats, was comprehensive:

“Barbara Ramjan is a person of high distinction having been awarded a D. Phil from Sydney Uni and she is married to a Supreme Court judge. Ramjan has spent years avoiding the limelight and glare of politics, choosing not to get involved after her student activity ceased. I was not aware of this and I accept now that the claim she was a serial liar is not factual.”

Ramjan has assembled a stellar legal team to run the case, instructing Patrick George from Kennedys solicitors, who has briefed Matthew Richardson and the leading defamation silk in the country, Bruce McClintock.

There are two separate actions against Kroger and The Oz, although it was indicated in court this morning the matters will be run concurrently.

After reading Marr’s report in the Quarterly Essay, I asked my husband to stand in front of me and punch the wall, because I wanted to know what if felt like. I am much taller and stronger than Ramjan, who is extremely petite, and I found it a terrifying experience, even though I knew my husband wasn’t actually going to hit me.

The case, of course, does not involve deciding whether or not the alleged incident took place, but whether Kroger has defamed Ramjan by describing her as a serial liar. The case could run into next year, prompting another round of headlines in an election year about what Abbott did or didn’t do to a woman in 1977.

The political and legal implications of this matter are being felt far beyond the walls of the NSW Supreme Court.

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by Aussie on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 1:51pm

Link.

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News Ltd has publicly apologised to a former student politician who was branded a serial liar by Liberal powerbroker Michael Kroger after she had accused Opposition Leader Tony Abbott of physically intimidating her.

In a remarkable twist that could reignite debate about Mr Abbott's alleged punching of a wall after losing a student election in the late 1970s, News Ltd's barrister read an extended apology in the NSW Supreme Court on Monday on behalf of The Australian to the alleged victim of the intimidation, Barbara Ramjan, as part of a settlement of a defamation action.

In an essay by former Fairfax Media journalist David Marr, released last September, Ms Ramjan said that in 1977, after she beat Mr Abbott for the presidency of the Sydney University Student Representative Council, he put his face close to hers and punched the wall either side of her head.

Mr Abbott denied the incident occurred and a few days later, Mr Kroger described Ms Ramjan in The Australian and on radio and television as a serial manufacturer or false complaints, "a nutter", and "a nobody".
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"An article published in September 24, 2012, concerned allegations by Michael Kroger about Barbara Ramjan's conduct in student politics in 1977 and 1978, and that of Opposition Leader Tony Abbott," Tom Blackburn SC said in court on Monday.

"The Australian apologises to Ms Ramjan for any suggestion that she lied about those events and acknowledges that the recollection of those events was contested by all participants, who were sincere in what they recalled."

The apology was part of a settlement of the defamation action which Ms Ramjan brought against News Limited and Mr Kroger over the accusations, which he repeated on Channel 10's The Bolt Report, and Alan Jones' breakfast radio show on 2GB.

In the article, Mr Kroger pointed to another incident in which Ms Ramjan had made allegations against far left wing political party The Sparticists, which that group denied, as evidence that she was a "serial manufacturer of false complaints".

"This was about an attack on my reputation and today I have got my reputation back," Ms Ramjan said.

"Everything I said to David Marr is true, I don't step away from anything I said."

Mr Kroger said he had not apologised to Ms Ramjan and he "did not intend to apologise".

Neither party would disclose the details of the settlement, but it is understood Ms Ramjan will receive a sum of money in addition to the apology.

Title: Re: Women Bashing Pot Calling Lib Kettle Sexist !
Post by skippy. on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:22pm

Armchair is a women basher staffer, he's too scars of lurch Credlin not to try and defend the basher.