I've always been under the impression that acts of moderation, including who has been banned, was never made known.  I know of occasions when complaints have been made and no feedback has been given.  Many of the longer term Members here will confirm that as the case.  Yet.....

Link.

Question by me to Freedumb:

"How do you know he has been banned?"

'Her' answer:

"............A mod PMed me telling me so, I'm going by what they said."

Nasty, and a transparent explanation would really be appreciated by many Members, I'm sure.

Aussie wrote on Oct 16^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

I've always been under the impression that acts of moderation, including who has been banned, was never made known.  I know of occasions when complaints have been made and no feedback has been given.  Many of the longer term Members here will confirm that as the case.  Yet..... Link. Question by me to Freedumb: "How do you know he has been banned?" 'Her' answer: "............A mod PMed me telling me so, I'm going by what they said." Nasty, and a transparent explanation would really be appreciated by many Members, I'm sure.

Frigging hilarious, aussie pontificating on the fairness of moderation. 

My alleged "friggin hilarious.......pontification" is not only moot, it is irrelevant.  I am not a GM here.

It would be 'nice' to know why Freedumb gets advised about who has been banned, yet... everything said in Feedback to date, suggests no-one ever gets so advised.

I guess Freedumb may have made it up, but that is for her to explain, not me.

You can called someone stupid, idiot, dumb, a goose, uneducated or a number of names and call one member not by his name but by IFULLOFSHIT and not get barred, but called someone a dickhead and you get a holiday. So where is the consistency.

John S wrote on Oct 16^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

You can called someone stupid, idiot, dumb, a goose, uneducated or a number of names

Not true.
But you should really use some common sense in posting. Funny how people who don't abuse others and just post on issues never get banned isn't it?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 3:24am:

John S wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 11:24pm: You can called someone stupid, idiot, dumb, a goose, uneducated or a number of names Not true. But you should really use some common sense in posting. Funny how people who don't abuse others and just post on issues never get banned isn't it?

funny how I have never been banned... yet somehow I get the blame for firing back...

as far as moderating goes I wouldnt waste my time anymore.a complete waste of time expecting any thing from them..

funny how being called an idiot is an insult b ut being referred to as a DRUNK isnt..oh thats right its funny isnt it?..same as shots at a late partner is..

.do not defend yourself against attacks like that...you are expected to turn the other cheek...

I know!

Stay tuned for more big hitting comment from Aussie the man to break all the big hitting stories ::)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 3:24am:

John S wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 11:24pm: You can called someone stupid, idiot, dumb, a goose, uneducated or a number of names Not true. But you should really use some common sense in posting. Funny how people who don't abuse others and just post on issues never get banned isn't it?

I have seen a lot of members getting call those names and nothing happen to them.

How about this quote the bit that is bold did he get a holiday


labor are corrupt wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 11:05pm:

Its time wrote on Oct 14th, 2014 at 10:04pm: It's this sort of approach that consolidates he hasn't changed a bit from being the woman basher, except he has grown up and picked on somebody his own size, and gender this time. "Dipshit" yep that's you.

Aussie wrote on Oct 16^th, 2014 at 10:47pm:

My alleged "friggin hilarious.......pontification" is not only moot, it is irrelevant.  I am not a GM here. It would be 'nice' to know why Freedumb gets advised about who has been banned, yet... everything said in Feedback to date, suggests no-one ever gets so advised. I guess Freedumb may have made it up, but that is for her to explain, not me.

Is it a bad thing to be advised about who is banned and what no?

Also, I certainly did not make it up. What motive would I have to make something like that up? I'm no troll, and if I did make it up I would look like an idiot if the individual who was banned logged in and posted, would it not? If they don't log in, or they join the forum under a different name, the story will prove itself.

I'm not going to identify the moderator who messaged me, as I'm not one to throw them under the bus to get scrutinised  ;)

They can come forward, if they want to.

Aussie, is there a protocol or certain set of rules that moderators have to follow that says they shouldn't reveal who is and isn't banned?

Freedumb wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 3:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 10:47pm: My alleged "friggin hilarious.......pontification" is not only moot, it is irrelevant.  I am not a GM here. It would be 'nice' to know why Freedumb gets advised about who has been banned, yet... everything said in Feedback to date, suggests no-one ever gets so advised. I guess Freedumb may have made it up, but that is for her to explain, not me. Is it a bad thing to be advised about who is banned and what no? Also, I certainly did not make it up. What motive would I have to make something like that up? I'm no troll, and if I did make it up I would look like an idiot if the individual who was banned logged in and posted, would it not? If they don't log in, or they join the forum under a different name, the story will prove itself. I'm not going to identify the moderator who messaged me, as I'm not one to throw them under the bus to get scrutinised  ;) They can come forward, if they want to. Aussie, is there a protocol or certain set of rules that moderators have to follow that says they shouldn't reveal who is and isn't banned?

I don't know, but their prior form suggests so.  I'm not suggesting you throw anyone under a bus......I raise it because it is rare, if not never, that a Member gets such specific feedback about the banning of another Member direct from a Global Moderator.  (Different in the Member Run Boards where it seems mandatory that it all be done in public and via PM.)

I'm not complaining at all that you were so advised.  I also don't mind what the convention or Rule is ~ but, consistency on the matter is necessary.

Aussie wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 4:20pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 3:59pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 10:47pm: My alleged "friggin hilarious.......pontification" is not only moot, it is irrelevant.  I am not a GM here. It would be 'nice' to know why Freedumb gets advised about who has been banned, yet... everything said in Feedback to date, suggests no-one ever gets so advised. I guess Freedumb may have made it up, but that is for her to explain, not me. Is it a bad thing to be advised about who is banned and what no? Also, I certainly did not make it up. What motive would I have to make something like that up? I'm no troll, and if I did make it up I would look like an idiot if the individual who was banned logged in and posted, would it not? If they don't log in, or they join the forum under a different name, the story will prove itself. I'm not going to identify the moderator who messaged me, as I'm not one to throw them under the bus to get scrutinised  ;) They can come forward, if they want to. Aussie, is there a protocol or certain set of rules that moderators have to follow that says they shouldn't reveal who is and isn't banned? I don't know, but their prior form suggests so.  I'm not suggesting you throw anyone under a bus......I raise it because it is rare, if not never, that a Member gets such specific feedback about the banning of another Member direct from a Global Moderator.  (Different in the Member Run Boards where it seems mandatory that it all be done in public and via PM.) I'm not complaining at all that you were so advised.  I also don't mind what the convention or Rule is ~ but, consistency on the matter is necessary.

Oh, I see.

I'm sure we'd all like to see consistency. Some people get banned for certain things and others don't, just doesn't seem fair. But I guess it's down to every individual moderator is different and it is up to them to make the decisions.

I was banned from the tavern...the mod messaged me twice telling me it was the rule...not to dare enter her domain again.. ::)

and or dare to PM her... which I have adhered religiously .. she scared me..well a little...

aussie just locks the thread.. :o :o.

not a lot of of difference it is telling one to shut up.without actually banning them... ;D ;D

I am not sure what the interest is in who is banned...I will put my hand up and say I have never been banned by a GM..but that doesnt mean I dont  get hauled over the coals... in public..

why is that ok??>. being spoken too like you are a second class citizen in full view of everyone.. yet if you are banned.. its all hush hush??...

cods wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 4:44pm:

I was banned from the tavern...the mod messaged me twice telling me it was the rule...not to dare enter her domain again.. ::) and or dare to PM her... which I have adhered religiously .. she scared me..well a little... aussie just locks the thread.. :o :o. not a lot of of difference it is telling one to shut up.without actually banning them... ;D ;D I am not sure what the interest is in who is banned...I will put my hand up and say I have never been banned by a GM..but that doesnt mean I dont  get hauled over the coals... in public.. why is that ok??>. being spoken too like you are a second class citizen in full view of everyone.. yet if you are banned.. its all hush hush??...

The "Mods" of the Member Boards don't have the ability (buttons)  to ban anyone, they have to get a Global Mod to do it for them (i.e they dob you in).  ::)  They can obviously lock threads though.  ;)

Neferti wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 4:57pm:

cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 4:44pm: I was banned from the tavern...the mod messaged me twice telling me it was the rule...not to dare enter her domain again.. ::) and or dare to PM her... which I have adhered religiously .. she scared me..well a little... aussie just locks the thread.. :o :o. not a lot of of difference it is telling one to shut up.without actually banning them... ;D ;D I am not sure what the interest is in who is banned...I will put my hand up and say I have never been banned by a GM..but that doesnt mean I dont  get hauled over the coals... in public.. why is that ok??>. being spoken too like you are a second class citizen in full view of everyone.. yet if you are banned.. its all hush hush??... The "Mods" of the Member Boards don't have the ability (buttons)  to ban anyone, they have to get a Global Mod to do it for them (i.e they dob you in).  ::)  They can obviously lock threads though.  ;)

well thanks for that I didnt know...you mean I could have kept using the Tavern  ;D ;D even after the PMs.

just as well they cant as there wouldnt be anyone left on here.. ;D ;D right aussie?..

I do realise some folks prefer only talking to themselves..

Quote:

well thanks for that I didnt know...you mean I could have kept using the Tavern  Grin Grin even after the PMs.

Be a tad careful about the advice you receive/accept cods.  Some have their own silly agendas from other places.  If you did that ~ you risk a permanent ban from the entire Forum.

Aussie wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 5:19pm:

Quote: well thanks for that I didnt know...you mean I could have kept using the Tavern  Grin Grin even after the PMs. Be a tad careful about the advice you receive cods.  Some have their own silly agendas from other places.  If you did that ~ you risk a permanent ban from the entire Forum.

Where does it say that in the rules Aussie?

Cods, here are Freediver's rules regarding the member run boards:


freediver wrote on Oct 4^th, 2011 at 11:31am:

It is possible for me to ban members from individual boards, but it is a complicated process. So please follow this procedure. Temporary bans will not be given, so use all other avenues first. For all members: Please follow the instructions of board moderators. If you don't like them, cease to use the board. This is the most powerful mechanism you have to handle poor board management. You may of course complain to the mod publicly or privately, but give it up if it is not achieving anything. If they ask you to stop posting on the board, stop posting on the board. If you refuse to follow their instructions, you will be blocked from the board and also suspended from the whole forum. For board moderators: 1) Warn the member via PM and then publicly that they are breaking the rules. 2) If they persist in being disruptive, send them a PM notifying them that they are banned from the board. Include a link to this post so that they are aware of the ban and my expectations of them under this procedure. CC a copy of this PM to me. At this stage the member is expected to voluntarily refrain from using the board. 3) If they continue to post, advise them publicly that they are banned, or refer them to their PM from you if you want to be more subtle. This is in case they don't read their PMs. 4) If they continue to post, PM me with a link to their public warning and where they posted afterwards, and quotes. I will put in an appropriate ban at that stage. This could be a ban from the board, from the section or from the entire forum. I will not ban people from individual party boards. On the first offence you will be banned from the entire section (currently 6 boards) or from the entire forum. For member run boards, I have traditionally banned people from individual boards first, then from the entire section. I will continue this for the moment. If the 'offence' is particularly nasty the member will be banned or suspended from the entire forum. The point of this process, and the member run boards in general, is to reduce the workload on myself and the other global mods. I expect the board mods to make a reasonable effort to handle and diffuse a problem themselves before asking for a ban. I do not want the board mods to use bans as part of any personal disagreements.

^^^^^^There ya go skippy. 

Getting banned the most fun you can have on ozpolitics.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 5:32pm:

Getting banned the most fun you can have on ozpolitics.

How many times have you been banned, Sparky?
Into double figures yet?

Don't know what your talking about, Matty?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

Cods, here are Freediver's rules regarding the member run boards: freediver wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 11:31am: It is possible for me to ban members from individual boards, but it is a complicated process. So please follow this procedure. Temporary bans will not be given, so use all other avenues first. For all members: Please follow the instructions of board moderators. If you don't like them, cease to use the board. This is the most powerful mechanism you have to handle poor board management. You may of course complain to the mod publicly or privately, but give it up if it is not achieving anything. If they ask you to stop posting on the board, stop posting on the board. If you refuse to follow their instructions, you will be blocked from the board and also suspended from the whole forum. For board moderators: 1) Warn the member via PM and then publicly that they are breaking the rules. 2) If they persist in being disruptive, send them a PM notifying them that they are banned from the board. Include a link to this post so that they are aware of the ban and my expectations of them under this procedure. CC a copy of this PM to me. At this stage the member is expected to voluntarily refrain from using the board. 3) If they continue to post, advise them publicly that they are banned, or refer them to their PM from you if you want to be more subtle. This is in case they don't read their PMs. 4) If they continue to post, PM me with a link to their public warning and where they posted afterwards, and quotes. I will put in an appropriate ban at that stage. This could be a ban from the board, from the section or from the entire forum. I will not ban people from individual party boards. On the first offence you will be banned from the entire section (currently 6 boards) or from the entire forum. For member run boards, I have traditionally banned people from individual boards first, then from the entire section. I will continue this for the moment. If the 'offence' is particularly nasty the member will be banned or suspended from the entire forum. The point of this process, and the member run boards in general, is to reduce the workload on myself and the other global mods. I expect the board mods to make a reasonable effort to handle and diffuse a problem themselves before asking for a ban. I do not want the board mods to use bans as part of any personal disagreements.

Thanks Annie, so there are quite a few  processes the member run boards mods need to take before a member would be banned from the forum in a manner described by Aussie.

And skippy Elde Fruit, .....that is what I was saying with this remark.


Quote:

(Different in the Member Run Boards where it seems mandatory that it all be done in public and via PM.)

Another Member then provided some very dangerously misleading advice, which I corrected.  You challenged ~ AA set you straight.

Do keep it in context, please.

Here is my tip:

They seem to get twice as upset with you when you don't abuse them back than they do if you retaliate.

Consistency in Moderation.

Some say anything in moderation ?

Aussie wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 5:19pm:

Quote: well thanks for that I didnt know...you mean I could have kept using the Tavern  Grin Grin even after the PMs. Be a tad careful about the advice you receive/accept cods.  Some have their own silly agendas from other places.  If you did that ~ you risk a permanent ban from the entire Forum.

  I WAS BEING SARCASTIC...

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

Cods, here are Freediver's rules regarding the member run boards: freediver wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 11:31am: It is possible for me to ban members from individual boards, but it is a complicated process. So please follow this procedure. Temporary bans will not be given, so use all other avenues first. For all members: Please follow the instructions of board moderators. If you don't like them, cease to use the board. This is the most powerful mechanism you have to handle poor board management. You may of course complain to the mod publicly or privately, but give it up if it is not achieving anything. If they ask you to stop posting on the board, stop posting on the board. If you refuse to follow their instructions, you will be blocked from the board and also suspended from the whole forum. For board moderators: 1) Warn the member via PM and then publicly that they are breaking the rules. 2) If they persist in being disruptive, send them a PM notifying them that they are banned from the board. Include a link to this post so that they are aware of the ban and my expectations of them under this procedure. CC a copy of this PM to me. At this stage the member is expected to voluntarily refrain from using the board. 3) If they continue to post, advise them publicly that they are banned, or refer them to their PM from you if you want to be more subtle. This is in case they don't read their PMs. 4) If they continue to post, PM me with a link to their public warning and where they posted afterwards, and quotes. I will put in an appropriate ban at that stage. This could be a ban from the board, from the section or from the entire forum. I will not ban people from individual party boards. On the first offence you will be banned from the entire section (currently 6 boards) or from the entire forum. For member run boards, I have traditionally banned people from individual boards first, then from the entire section. I will continue this for the moment. If the 'offence' is particularly nasty the member will be banned or suspended from the entire forum. The point of this process, and the member run boards in general, is to reduce the workload on myself and the other global mods. I expect the board mods to make a reasonable effort to handle and diffuse a problem themselves before asking for a ban. I do not want the board mods to use bans as part of any personal disagreements.

I WAS BEING SARCASTIC.....


WHAT ABOUT BANNING MODS.... >:( >:(

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 5:32pm:

Getting banned the most fun you can have on ozpolitics.

I find it interesting how some mods seem to have no trouble finding  some people and noticing what they do or say...but never noticing when the bully boys are around.......funny that.

Since I started the Health & Welfare board, I've only had to issue
two warnings. One to an individual by PM, and an unrelated general
warning posted in the topic where the issue concerned had occurred.

So far, no-ones needed to be reported to FD, and no-one's been
banned.

I've actually been surprised at how good the behaviour there has
proven to be.

cods wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 9:42pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 5:27pm: Cods, here are Freediver's rules regarding the member run boards: freediver wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 11:31am: It is possible for me to ban members from individual boards, but it is a complicated process. So please follow this procedure. Temporary bans will not be given, so use all other avenues first. For all members: Please follow the instructions of board moderators. If you don't like them, cease to use the board. This is the most powerful mechanism you have to handle poor board management. You may of course complain to the mod publicly or privately, but give it up if it is not achieving anything. If they ask you to stop posting on the board, stop posting on the board. If you refuse to follow their instructions, you will be blocked from the board and also suspended from the whole forum. For board moderators: 1) Warn the member via PM and then publicly that they are breaking the rules. 2) If they persist in being disruptive, send them a PM notifying them that they are banned from the board. Include a link to this post so that they are aware of the ban and my expectations of them under this procedure. CC a copy of this PM to me. At this stage the member is expected to voluntarily refrain from using the board. 3) If they continue to post, advise them publicly that they are banned, or refer them to their PM from you if you want to be more subtle. This is in case they don't read their PMs. 4) If they continue to post, PM me with a link to their public warning and where they posted afterwards, and quotes. I will put in an appropriate ban at that stage. This could be a ban from the board, from the section or from the entire forum. I will not ban people from individual party boards. On the first offence you will be banned from the entire section (currently 6 boards) or from the entire forum. For member run boards, I have traditionally banned people from individual boards first, then from the entire section. I will continue this for the moment. If the 'offence' is particularly nasty the member will be banned or suspended from the entire forum. The point of this process, and the member run boards in general, is to reduce the workload on myself and the other global mods. I expect the board mods to make a reasonable effort to handle and diffuse a problem themselves before asking for a ban. I do not want the board mods to use bans as part of any personal disagreements. I WAS BEING SARCASTIC..... WHAT ABOUT BANNING MODS.... >:( >:(

How about you f-ck right off forever?
You'd have to be the mindless, nasty and vindictive poster on here.
You're forever crying about how you're hard done by on here, yet you never seem to be banned.
You're a f-cking disgrace who makes the terminally stupid out there look intelligent and even, when compared to you, interesting.
Your incessant whining is beyond belief.

You're really just a f-ckin' idiot. Your crap about how hard done by you are on here is just that, pure and utter crap. You're one of the nastiest characters I've seen on the net.

Go away and leave us all in peace from your moronic postings.

cods wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 9:45pm:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 5:32pm: Getting banned the most fun you can have on ozpolitics. I find it interesting how some mods seem to have no trouble finding  some people and noticing what they do or say...but never noticing when the bully boys are around.......funny that.

You have to remember that the moderators don't sit on here 24/7 making sure every post is morally correct. (Well, I wouldn't think so anyway?) They probably don't have the time to see every single post that is made. Think about how many members there are here, and how many threads are written, how many posts, etc.

Also, they would all operate differently and have their own perspective of who should or shouldn't be banned. The best thing to do, for your own good, is to stop worrying so much about what the others think and do. Take it with a pinch of salt and don't get emotionally involved.. they aren't really worth it.

Life_goes_on wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 10:46pm:

How about you f-ck right off forever?You'd have to be the mindless, nasty and vindictive poster on here.You're forever crying about how you're hard done by on here, yet you never seem to be banned.You're a f-cking disgrace who makes the terminally stupid out there look intelligent and even, when compared to you, interesting.Your incessant whining is beyond belief.You're really just a f-ckin' idiot. Your crap about how hard done by you are on here is just that, pure and utter crap. You're one of the nastiest characters I've seen on the net.Go away and leave us all in peace from your moronic postings.

That rant was disgusting and uncalled for and deserves a suspension or do you get a special exemption from personally abusing members?

I've never had a problem with mods. The only issue I've had on ozpolitics is with leftard barnacles whom like to dominate every topic and swarm on anyone they disagree with.

Life_goes_on wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 10:46pm:

How about you f-ck right off forever? You'd have to be the mindless, nasty and vindictive poster on here. You're forever crying about how you're hard done by on here, yet you never seem to be banned. You're a f-cking disgrace who makes the terminally stupid out there look intelligent and even, when compared to you, interesting. Your incessant whining is beyond belief. You're really just a f-ckin' idiot. Your crap about how hard done by you are on here is just that, pure and utter crap. You're one of the nastiest characters I've seen on the net. Go away and leave us all in peace from your moronic postings

I have enlarged this quote just in the hope a MOD sees it...
'
there is no point in me reporting it...as it would only give them a good laugh..


Freedumb wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 1:52am:

You have to remember that the moderators don't sit on here 24/7 making sure every post is morally correct. (Well, I wouldn't think so anyway?) They probably don't have the time to see every single post that is made. Think about how many members there are here, and how many threads are written, how many posts, etc.

I am fully aware of that Freedumb....however suddenly for n o reason they come into a thread... not to save anyone from relentless  PERSONAL abuse...but to threaten them for retaliating with banning...

check above if you havent done so already....

this is not new it is one of the worst I agree.....if I retaliated guess who would get banned..

not that that bothers me anymore...some are doing their best to get rid of me... maybe its time I obliged them... I have never wanted to do that before..[obliges the bullies that is].. but now who the hell cares.

thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them.

dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me...

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 8:59am:

thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me...

Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair.

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 4:59am:

Life_goes_on wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 10:46pm: How about you f-ck right off forever?You'd have to be the mindless, nasty and vindictive poster on here.You're forever crying about how you're hard done by on here, yet you never seem to be banned.You're a f-cking disgrace who makes the terminally stupid out there look intelligent and even, when compared to you, interesting.Your incessant whining is beyond belief.You're really just a f-ckin' idiot. Your crap about how hard done by you are on here is just that, pure and utter crap. You're one of the nastiest characters I've seen on the net.Go away and leave us all in peace from your moronic postings. That rant was disgusting and uncalled for and deserves a suspension or do you get a special exemption from personally abusing members?

Agreed.

Cods and I are far from being 'buddies', but that was beyond the pale.

Kat wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:39am:

mantra wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:59am: Life_goes_on wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 10:46pm: How about you f-ck right off forever?You'd have to be the mindless, nasty and vindictive poster on here.You're forever crying about how you're hard done by on here, yet you never seem to be banned.You're a f-cking disgrace who makes the terminally stupid out there look intelligent and even, when compared to you, interesting.Your incessant whining is beyond belief.You're really just a f-ckin' idiot. Your crap about how hard done by you are on here is just that, pure and utter crap. You're one of the nastiest characters I've seen on the net.Go away and leave us all in peace from your moronic postings. That rant was disgusting and uncalled for and deserves a suspension or do you get a special exemption from personally abusing members? Agreed. Cods and I are far from being 'buddies', but that was beyond the pale.

Yes looking at the time it was posted and the rant, I suspect LGO may have been "on the turps"

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:39am:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 8:59am: thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me... Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair.

its a strange thing...I never like the HATE word..its more than a throw away line for me...but sometimes you can feel their hate cant you??

why w ould someone hate that much they let it overflow on a forum like this...

this is a thread on MODS..I mention who bans the mods..

and get a tirade like that...it almost frightens me to be honest...it wasnt isnt one line...
as you know mantra I have been intimidated by things that have been said about me on here...but this leaves them for dead..

to say I am in shock is putting it mildly there must be somewhere this could be taken further than to a moderator...who may even find it mild...

someone has a very sick mind.plus personality..

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:47am:

Kat wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:39am: mantra wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:59am: Life_goes_on wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 10:46pm: How about you f-ck right off forever?You'd have to be the mindless, nasty and vindictive poster on here.You're forever crying about how you're hard done by on here, yet you never seem to be banned.You're a f-cking disgrace who makes the terminally stupid out there look intelligent and even, when compared to you, interesting.Your incessant whining is beyond belief.You're really just a f-ckin' idiot. Your crap about how hard done by you are on here is just that, pure and utter crap. You're one of the nastiest characters I've seen on the net.Go away and leave us all in peace from your moronic postings. That rant was disgusting and uncalled for and deserves a suspension or do you get a special exemption from personally abusing members? Agreed. Cods and I are far from being 'buddies', but that was beyond the pale. Yes looking at the time it was posted and the rant, I suspect LGO may have been "on the turps"

so that makes it ok then.... I can relax and not be offended in any way.

Whats' the nature of the offence? The 'f' word or an opinion that can be reflected on or ignored at one's discretion? I hope it's no the use of the 'f' word.

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:39am:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 8:59am: thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me... Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair.

You are way out of line by suggesting that I am unfair, Mantra. I am sick of your snide insinuations. You're also out of line in suggesting that just because LGO is my husband, I'd let that post slide.

How about you show me where I've been inconsistent or unfair?

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:54am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:47am: Kat wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:39am: mantra wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:59am: Life_goes_on wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 10:46pm: How about you f-ck right off forever?You'd have to be the mindless, nasty and vindictive poster on here.You're forever crying about how you're hard done by on here, yet you never seem to be banned.You're a f-cking disgrace who makes the terminally stupid out there look intelligent and even, when compared to you, interesting.Your incessant whining is beyond belief.You're really just a f-ckin' idiot. Your crap about how hard done by you are on here is just that, pure and utter crap. You're one of the nastiest characters I've seen on the net.Go away and leave us all in peace from your moronic postings. That rant was disgusting and uncalled for and deserves a suspension or do you get a special exemption from personally abusing members? Agreed. Cods and I are far from being 'buddies', but that was beyond the pale. Yes looking at the time it was posted and the rant, I suspect LGO may have been "on the turps" so that makes it ok then.... I can relax and not be offended in any way.

DID I SAY IT WAS OK....NO ITS NOT OK...WAS JUST THINKING!!!

cods wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 9:42pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 5:27pm: Cods, here are Freediver's rules regarding the member run boards: freediver wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 11:31am: It is possible for me to ban members from individual boards, but it is a complicated process. So please follow this procedure. Temporary bans will not be given, so use all other avenues first. For all members: Please follow the instructions of board moderators. If you don't like them, cease to use the board. This is the most powerful mechanism you have to handle poor board management. You may of course complain to the mod publicly or privately, but give it up if it is not achieving anything. If they ask you to stop posting on the board, stop posting on the board. If you refuse to follow their instructions, you will be blocked from the board and also suspended from the whole forum. For board moderators: 1) Warn the member via PM and then publicly that they are breaking the rules. 2) If they persist in being disruptive, send them a PM notifying them that they are banned from the board. Include a link to this post so that they are aware of the ban and my expectations of them under this procedure. CC a copy of this PM to me. At this stage the member is expected to voluntarily refrain from using the board. 3) If they continue to post, advise them publicly that they are banned, or refer them to their PM from you if you want to be more subtle. This is in case they don't read their PMs. 4) If they continue to post, PM me with a link to their public warning and where they posted afterwards, and quotes. I will put in an appropriate ban at that stage. This could be a ban from the board, from the section or from the entire forum. I will not ban people from individual party boards. On the first offence you will be banned from the entire section (currently 6 boards) or from the entire forum. For member run boards, I have traditionally banned people from individual boards first, then from the entire section. I will continue this for the moment. If the 'offence' is particularly nasty the member will be banned or suspended from the entire forum. The point of this process, and the member run boards in general, is to reduce the workload on myself and the other global mods. I expect the board mods to make a reasonable effort to handle and diffuse a problem themselves before asking for a ban. I do not want the board mods to use bans as part of any personal disagreements. I WAS BEING SARCASTIC..... WHAT ABOUT BANNING MODS.... >:( >:(

Banning mods for what? For providing you the information?

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 6:11am:

I've never had a problem with mods. The only issue I've had on ozpolitics is with leftard barnacles whom like to dominate every topic and swarm on anyone they disagree with.

Well said. There's a swarm of winged termites on this board who sniff the air and then descend as a group upon anyone who's even slightly Right of Fiddle Castro.

I've never had any problems with mods either, despite coming under torrential downpours of abuse and insult from the Lefties here as though I need intensive moderating to keep from being sin-binned.

Herb, there's not a thing on ozpolitics that would really bother me. If everyone just said what they had to say (such as, their worst) and moved on, no insult would be too bad.Just don't stalk someone you don't like/disagree with by responding to every post they make. There's no mystery that I don't like/agree with John Smith, but we leave each other alone. That's probably the best way; and don't get bogged down by old war wounds.

The trouble is guys we only notice the sneering from the ones on the other side of the political fence to us!

And after we notice the same ones bagging our side we react!

Just human nature!

We all wear rose coloured glasses on posts favouring our side of politics  but notice every snear  from the other side!

No solution I suspect!

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 11:59am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 6:11am: I've never had a problem with mods. The only issue I've had on ozpolitics is with leftard barnacles whom like to dominate every topic and swarm on anyone they disagree with. Well said. There's a swarm of winged termites on this board who sniff the air and then descend as a group upon anyone who's even slightly Right of Fiddle Castro. I've never had any problems with mods either, despite coming under torrential downpours of abuse and insult from the Lefties here as though I need intensive moderating to keep from being sin-binned.

Not being a Political "supporter" of either a Right or Left wing, my assessment of this forum would be that both the Left & Right have a "good sized" numbers!

That said, everything has limits & just because someone doesn't agree with what you say, be it Politics or other, does not give anyone the right to overstep the line!

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 11:36am:

mantra wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:39am: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 8:59am: thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me... Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair. You are way out of line by suggesting that I am unfair, Mantra. I am sick of your snide insinuations. You're also out of line in suggesting that just because LGO is my husband, I'd let that post slide. How about you show me where I've been inconsistent or unfair?

I'm not the one who made the abusive comment.

What does surprise me is that LGO would make such an unacceptable comment and put you in the position you're now in by having to defend him. He's not showing any respect for the rules of this board.

If you want your private life to be kept out of bounds, then don't discuss it on such a huge forum. Of course you're bound to get references to it from time to time.

The eternal questions.  Where is the 'line' and who sets it?

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:16pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 11:36am: mantra wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:39am: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 8:59am: thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me... Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair. You are way out of line by suggesting that I am unfair, Mantra. I am sick of your snide insinuations. You're also out of line in suggesting that just because LGO is my husband, I'd let that post slide. How about you show me where I've been inconsistent or unfair? I'm not the one who made the abusive comment.

Your comments are snide. You don't offer outright abuse, just dirty insinuations.


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What does surprise me is that LGO would make such an unacceptable comment and put you in the position you're now in by having to defend him.

I didn't defend him. You are being dishonest.


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If you want your private life to be kept out of bounds, then don't discuss it on such a huge forum. Of course you're bound to get references to it from time to time.

References to my private life don't bother me at all, Mantra. It's the suggestion that I am being unfair in moderating which pisses me off because I am not. I asked you to back up your accusation with an example and you haven't. I'm asking you to do so again.

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:16pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 11:36am: mantra wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:39am: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 8:59am: thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me... Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair. You are way out of line by suggesting that I am unfair, Mantra. I am sick of your snide insinuations. You're also out of line in suggesting that just because LGO is my husband, I'd let that post slide. How about you show me where I've been inconsistent or unfair? I'm not the one who made the abusive comment. What does surprise me is that LGO would make such an unacceptable comment and put you in the position you're now in by having to defend him. He's not showing any respect for the rules of this board. If you want your private life to be kept out of bounds, then don't discuss it on such a huge forum. Of course you're bound to get references to it from time to time.

Um in your own quote, you are quite clearly the one who talked about a poster protected by their moderator spouse, might be a good time for you to quietly back out of the conversation (given apologising in this place is often times in the way too hard basket).

Here is the thing, as articulated in the rules...

Copy the offending post (use the quote button, it's pretty easy), put that in a pm then include a link to the thread from the offending post.... Then send that on to one or more moderators (clearly if you send it to all the mods, you cannot be accused of not being transparent). If you send it to a few mods you immediately address your own articulate fears of mod bias...

Make no mistake, I am not a big fan of the "system" either, but it is what it is. One can uselessly whinge here about it, or, whilst whinging here, at least attempt to be effective and follow the articulated procedures...

I think that you did cross a line, that means nothing of course, I am just another punter/poster in the melting pot though. I don't think that your follow up post was a brilliant defence either, in fact, if nothing else it compounded the initial line cross.

I guess it is lucky our mods have some patience at the very least.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:25pm:

References to my private life don't bother me at all, Mantra. It's the suggestion that I am being unfair in moderating which pisses me off because I am not. I asked you to back up your accusation with an example and you haven't. I'm asking you to do so again.

You can ask all you like. All you're doing is showing members that you are an angry person. I'm not getting into an argument with you about your moderating. This isn't the place. You didn't like my comment - so what? I don't like quite a few of your comments, but I let them go and don't demand that you explain yourself repeatedly.

In your eyes is making a "snide" comment against the rules?

Phemanderac wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:27pm:

I think that you did cross a line, that means nothing of course, I am just another punter/poster in the melting pot though. I don't think that your follow up post was a brilliant defence either, in fact, if nothing else it compounded the initial line cross.I guess it is lucky our mods have some patience at the very least.

That's your opinion Phemanderac. I wasn't rude to Annie - she just didn't like my comments. This isn't the first time I've seen some unacceptable comments from LGO.

If the mods lost their temper at every irritating comment made by a member - then there would be no members left.

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 12:25pm: References to my private life don't bother me at all, Mantra. It's the suggestion that I am being unfair in moderating which pisses me off because I am not. I asked you to back up your accusation with an example and you haven't. I'm asking you to do so again.  You can ask all you like. All you're doing is showing members that you are an angry person. I'm not getting into an argument with you about your moderating. This isn't the place. You didn't like my comment - so what? I don't like quite a few of your comments, but I let them go and don't demand that you explain yourself repeatedly. In your eyes is making a "snide" comment against the rules?

Pretty sure "against the rules" wasn't mentioned, quite clearly, Annie advised you that your snide comments pissed her off....

I think that is pretty clear to be honest. Then again, once we find that crack in someone's armour it is just far too tempting to keep trying to exploit it.

I am a member and, to be perfectly frank, the only thing it has shown me so far is that you can't (or possibly won't to be fair) back up your allegation.

The angry person bit was already explained, you made an allegation about unfair moderation without substantiating it - Annie stated quite clearly that pissed her off... I think that's a hint she may have been a bit miffed...

What a bummer Annie is the only mod on the forum..... Oh wait...

Phemanderac wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

Pretty sure "against the rules" wasn't mentioned, quite clearly, Annie advised you that your snide comments pissed her off....I think that is pretty clear to be honest. Then again, once we find that crack in someone's armour it is just far too tempting to keep trying to exploit it.I am a member and, to be perfectly frank, the only thing it has shown me so far is that you can't (or possibly won't to be fair) back up your allegation. The angry person bit was already explained, you made an allegation about unfair moderation without substantiating it - Annie stated quite clearly that pissed her off... I think that's a hint she may have been a bit miffed...What a bummer Annie is the only mod on the forum..... Oh wait...

It looks like you're the one who wants to keep stirring the pot.

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:42pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 12:27pm: I think that you did cross a line, that means nothing of course, I am just another punter/poster in the melting pot though. I don't think that your follow up post was a brilliant defence either, in fact, if nothing else it compounded the initial line cross.I guess it is lucky our mods have some patience at the very least. That's your opinion Phemanderac. I wasn't rude to Annie - she just didn't like my comments. This isn't the first time I've seen some unacceptable comments from LGO.

Indeed, it is most certainly my opinion.

that is a matter of perspective, however, I understand that you perhaps did not intend to be rude...

So, what did you do with the other comments?

Bare in mind, I understand the whole reporting thing can be a bit of a hassle, but it is the system, so, what did you do about LGO's previous comments?

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:46pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 12:44pm: Pretty sure "against the rules" wasn't mentioned, quite clearly, Annie advised you that your snide comments pissed her off....I think that is pretty clear to be honest. Then again, once we find that crack in someone's armour it is just far too tempting to keep trying to exploit it.I am a member and, to be perfectly frank, the only thing it has shown me so far is that you can't (or possibly won't to be fair) back up your allegation. The angry person bit was already explained, you made an allegation about unfair moderation without substantiating it - Annie stated quite clearly that pissed her off... I think that's a hint she may have been a bit miffed...What a bummer Annie is the only mod on the forum..... Oh wait... It looks like you're the one who wants to keep stirring the pot.

Ah I see, earlier I was just "expressing my opinion" and now ^^^

Clearly my mistake, I overlooked the rule that you have to have the final word!

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 12:25pm: References to my private life don't bother me at all, Mantra. It's the suggestion that I am being unfair in moderating which pisses me off because I am not. I asked you to back up your accusation with an example and you haven't. I'm asking you to do so again.  You can ask all you like. All you're doing is showing members that you are an angry person. I'm not getting into an argument with you about your moderating. This isn't the place. You didn't like my comment - so what? I don't like quite a few of your comments, but I let them go and don't demand that you explain yourself repeatedly. In your eyes is making a "snide" comment against the rules? There are plenty of "snide" comments here that are totally ignored.

It was a baseless accusation, not a mere comment.  It's also not the first time you've attacked me in this manner. If you're going to throw accusations about, expect to be able to back them up or look silly (at best) if you can't.

Anyway, I've proven my point so I won't be engaging further.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:58pm:

It was a baseless accusation, not a mere comment.  It's also not the first time you've attacked me in this manner. If you're going to throw accusations about, expect to be able to back them up or look silly (at best) if you can't.

Maybe you could back your accusations up also?

There have been a few times I've reported a member whose behaviour is completely out of control. The member remains to abuse day after day.


Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:58pm:

Anyway, I've proven my point so I won't be engaging further.

That's fine. I'm glad you feel vindicated.

It seems like if everyone was to get banned for personal abuse/insults, there would be nobody left in this forum.

There's also the issue of people belittling others and calling them dumb or ignorant because they post something that disagrees with their views, or if their post is flawed or false they get picked apart and scrutinised.

Go have a look in the Islam and Extremism Exposed forums and you'll see topics with tonnes upon tonnes of pages of tit-for-tat posts and you'll see it.

This, sadly, is an issue that will never be solved. This wouldn't be the only forum with these kind of issues -- these issues exist in real life, maybe not as bad as it is much easier to condemn somebody you don't know online rather than in real life. If people acted like this in the real world, they would be walking around constantly with a black eye and blood nose.

Life_goes_on wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 10:46pm:

cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 9:42pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 5:27pm: Cods, here are Freediver's rules regarding the member run boards: freediver wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 11:31am: It is possible for me to ban members from individual boards, but it is a complicated process. So please follow this procedure. Temporary bans will not be given, so use all other avenues first. For all members: Please follow the instructions of board moderators. If you don't like them, cease to use the board. This is the most powerful mechanism you have to handle poor board management. You may of course complain to the mod publicly or privately, but give it up if it is not achieving anything. If they ask you to stop posting on the board, stop posting on the board. If you refuse to follow their instructions, you will be blocked from the board and also suspended from the whole forum. For board moderators: 1) Warn the member via PM and then publicly that they are breaking the rules. 2) If they persist in being disruptive, send them a PM notifying them that they are banned from the board. Include a link to this post so that they are aware of the ban and my expectations of them under this procedure. CC a copy of this PM to me. At this stage the member is expected to voluntarily refrain from using the board. 3) If they continue to post, advise them publicly that they are banned, or refer them to their PM from you if you want to be more subtle. This is in case they don't read their PMs. 4) If they continue to post, PM me with a link to their public warning and where they posted afterwards, and quotes. I will put in an appropriate ban at that stage. This could be a ban from the board, from the section or from the entire forum. I will not ban people from individual party boards. On the first offence you will be banned from the entire section (currently 6 boards) or from the entire forum. For member run boards, I have traditionally banned people from individual boards first, then from the entire section. I will continue this for the moment. If the 'offence' is particularly nasty the member will be banned or suspended from the entire forum. The point of this process, and the member run boards in general, is to reduce the workload on myself and the other global mods. I expect the board mods to make a reasonable effort to handle and diffuse a problem themselves before asking for a ban. I do not want the board mods to use bans as part of any personal disagreements. I WAS BEING SARCASTIC..... WHAT ABOUT BANNING MODS.... >:( >:( How about you f-ck right off forever? You'd have to be the mindless, nasty and vindictive poster on here. You're forever crying about how you're hard done by on here, yet you never seem to be banned. You're a f-cking disgrace who makes the terminally stupid out there look intelligent and even, when compared to you, interesting. Your incessant whining is beyond belief. You're really just a f-ckin' idiot. Your crap about how hard done by you are on here is just that, pure and utter crap. You're one of the nastiest characters I've seen on the net. Go away and leave us all in peace from your moronic postings.

i see another thread starting up about how rude you werre to cods  ;D ;D ;D

(By the way, I agree with everything you said  ;D ;D ;))

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:39am:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 8:59am: thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me... Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair.

now you're not being fair to a certain mod ... did you ask her to act on it? or even another mod?

That's why I come on ozpolitics, freedumb; to be challenged and provoked. Sycophancy and pandering are absolutely objectionable things that should never be reckoned with.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

Herb, there's not a thing on ozpolitics that would really bother me. If everyone just said what they had to say (such as, their worst) and moved on, no insult would be too bad.Just don't stalk someone you don't like/disagree with by responding to every post they make. There's no mystery that I don't like/agree with John Smith, but we leave each other alone. That's probably the best way; and don't get bogged down by old war wounds.

Sparky, I'm shocked ...... ;D ;D

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:42pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 12:27pm: I think that you did cross a line, that means nothing of course, I am just another punter/poster in the melting pot though. I don't think that your follow up post was a brilliant defence either, in fact, if nothing else it compounded the initial line cross.I guess it is lucky our mods have some patience at the very least. That's your opinion Phemanderac. I wasn't rude to Annie - she just didn't like my comments. This isn't the first time I've seen some unacceptable comments from LGO. If the mods lost their temper at every irritating comment made by a member - then there would be no members left.

thats what you think ... it was a cheap shot and totally uncalled for

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 2:37pm:

That's why I come on ozpolitics, freedumb; to be challenged and provoked. Sycophancy and pandering are absolutely objectionable things that should never be reckoned with.

Well yes, there is that too -- people love a good argument.  :D

John Smith wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

mantra wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:39am: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 8:59am: thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me... Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair. now you're not being fair to a certain mod ... did you ask her to act on it? or even another mod?

Read my post properly. I said "can" protect him - not "always", "does", "did" etc. It's says more about the person who posted all that abuse.

Look at some of you jumping up and down about my comment - yet not a harsh word for the perpetrator.

Yes - I asked 2 mods to act on it. Message the mods and ask whether they've banned the perpetrator. It seems a new member can be told about certain members being banned, so maybe they'll tell you.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

Herb, there's not a thing on ozpolitics that would really bother me. If everyone just said what they had to say (such as, their worst) and moved on, no insult would be too bad.Just don't stalk someone you don't like/disagree with by responding to every post they make. There's no mystery that I don't like/agree with John Smith, but we leave each other alone. That's probably the best way; and don't get bogged down by old war wounds.

I have tried all that,,.  whats your plan B..

this is the trouble we get all this advice.. and its been done to death...nothing works...i wouldnt go near some folks with a 10 foot as the saying goes.. but it doesnt stop the bullying..

and YES it is bullying when its "unwelcome" and "uncalled" for..

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

this is the trouble we get all this advice.. and its been done to death...nothing works...i wouldnt go near some folks with a 10 foot as the saying goes.. but it doesnt stop the bullying..and YES it is bullying when its "unwelcome" and "uncalled" for..

You're not talking about the person who just accused me of taking cheap shots are you Cods?

Well there is a solution -- we all stop being arseholes?  :D

Banning mods for what? For providing you the information?

for taking pot shots at the chosen few..myself and mantra being just two I can name ..

you never fail.. so show your bias or prejudice trouble is those at the end of the barbs dont forget them like you would have us do..

and neither we should..

it was a throw away line that as now you have told me you are married to the fowl mouth..yes spell is correct..as you admit the F word is also one of you favs.. I am amazed you bothered complaining about the new neighbours that swear...OMG.. and I even went into bat for you  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

but looking at that language I am surprised there is anything that would shock or upset you...

as for attacking mantra.. she is even more of a soft target than I am..  so that must make a moderator extra proud of themselves....

had you at least had something to say about your husbands message that was in any way a moderators reply to the ABUSE of the rules YOU POSTED UP..

you may have almost had a tiny little bit of respect that I am sure you would like

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 3:29pm: this is the trouble we get all this advice.. and its been done to death...nothing works...i wouldnt go near some folks with a 10 foot as the saying goes.. but it doesnt stop the bullying..and YES it is bullying when its "unwelcome" and "uncalled" for.. You're not talking about the person who just accused me of taking cheap shots are you Cods?

CHEAP SHOTS...

good words for a moderator that abuses a member...breaks every rule in the book I would think..

and as for PHEM who is an authority on human nature.. even though he only reads the bits that suits him...IGNORE... a wannabee if ever there was one..he needs to be on the receiving end of some maniac on here before he sticks his oar in.

he seems new and you and I have been putting up with what we put up with for years..

but hes a know everything type and he knows AA like the back of his hand..they are welcome to each other..you can leave us alone now Phem...

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

Cods, here are Freediver's rules regarding the member run boards: freediver wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 11:31am: It is possible for me to ban members from individual boards, but it is a complicated process. So please follow this procedure. Temporary bans will not be given, so use all other avenues first. For all members: Please follow the instructions of board moderators. If you don't like them, cease to use the board. This is the most powerful mechanism you have to handle poor board management. You may of course complain to the mod publicly or privately, but give it up if it is not achieving anything. If they ask you to stop posting on the board, stop posting on the board. If you refuse to follow their instructions, you will be blocked from the board and also suspended from the whole forum. For board moderators: 1) Warn the member via PM and then publicly that they are breaking the rules. 2) If they persist in being disruptive, send them a PM notifying them that they are banned from the board. Include a link to this post so that they are aware of the ban and my expectations of them under this procedure. CC a copy of this PM to me. At this stage the member is expected to voluntarily refrain from using the board. 3) If they continue to post, advise them publicly that they are banned, or refer them to their PM from you if you want to be more subtle. This is in case they don't read their PMs. 4) If they continue to post, PM me with a link to their public warning and where they posted afterwards, and quotes. I will put in an appropriate ban at that stage. This could be a ban from the board, from the section or from the entire forum. I will not ban people from individual party boards. On the first offence you will be banned from the entire section (currently 6 boards) or from the entire forum. For member run boards, I have traditionally banned people from individual boards first, then from the entire section. I will continue this for the moment. If the 'offence' is particularly nasty the member will be banned or suspended from the entire forum. The point of this process, and the member run boards in general, is to reduce the workload on myself and the other global mods. I expect the board mods to make a reasonable effort to handle and diffuse a problem themselves before asking for a ban. I do not want the board mods to use bans as part of any personal disagreements.

I was banned for 24 hours some months ago when I poked my nose into Aussie's relationship board.  I immediately got "banned" because Aussie doesn't like me (pay back). Yes and he chases me around the Forums, posting tid bits and sniffing at my arse like a puppy on heat! STALKING ME! He has this problem with other females too, I gather.

I was advised by Muso, the Global Mod at that time, that Aussie did not have the buttons to ban me, Aussie had asked Muso to ban me, without explaining why.  I think I still have the PM exchange here, somewhere.  Want me to post it up?

Aussie is throwing his weight around, as usual.  He wants to be a Global Moderator with ALL the buttons to be able to ban (forever) many of his adversaries.  It won't happen, no matter how many votes he gets.  ;D

Aussie started his own Political Animal Forum a few years ago. Many of us immediately joined. He was going to have the BEST POLITICAL FORUM since the ABC JJJ canned it, EVERYONE from way back would wander in and continue on how it "used to be"  ........ blah blah blah

It FAILED miserably because Aussie pulled the plug on it because he had absolutely NO IDEA about running a COMPUTER, less alone a forum.  ;D ;D

IT's a "control" thing with Aussie. Plus he has a hang up about Political Animal. 

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 11:36am:

mantra wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:39am: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 8:59am: thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me... Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair. You are way out of line by suggesting that I am unfair, Mantra. I am sick of your snide insinuations. You're also out of line in suggesting that just because LGO is my husband, I'd let that post slide. How about you show me where I've been inconsistent or unfair?

I reckon that is where a problem arises.  Members do not see the evidence because the GMs seem to have a practice of, more often than not, not providing a 'complaining' Member with any feedback following a complaint.  That is why I was quite surprised that Freedumb had been told by a GM that JaSin had been banned, and why I started this Thread ~ not as a witch-hunt, but to highlight a bizarre inconsistency.

LGO's Post was way, way out of line.  Yet, his comments are still there, and for all the Members know, so is LGO ~ untouched.

It makes it very tough on you AA, given you have revealed your close personal relationship with LGO, and given he has a robust posting style.

The adverse perception is inevitable.

1.  Inappropriate post.
2.  Made by LGO, husband of a GM.
3.  Post still there.
4.  LGO apparanetly still here, because the Members know nothing different.
5.  Conclusion ~ preferential treatment.

No criticism intended.  I'm trying to explain why Members are left bewildered on occasions.

If one Member get advice about a banning (and I have to say that I saw nothing JaSin posted on the Forum which would justify it ~ especially given the obvious flirtatious nature of Freedumb ~ maybe there was something in PMs....but the obvious solution there is for Freedumb not to read his PMs, or even turn PMs off altogether) then again, there is every reason Members would become confused about inconsistency, or perhaps yet again, preferential treatment.

AA, if there is preferential treatment ~ that is unfair Moderating.

Hope that is accepted as meant to be of assistance, and not seen as a brick bat.

Neferti wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:48pm:

Aussie is throwing his weight around, as usual.  He wants to be a Global Moderator with ALL the buttons to be able to ban (forever) many of his adversaries.  It won't happen, no matter how many votes he get

so what are your thoughts about AA...aussie as far as I can make out can only use his power on his own little board.. but AA can wield it all over the place...and of course FD has made it clear mods are off limits when it comes to complaining...

do you think some throw their weight around regardless... just because as you say they dont like someone.. AA and I go back a long way...she didnt like me then and even less now....

should I be afraid.. ;) ;)..

seems to me the mods can say and do what they like without recourse..but us we have to take their slings and arrows??...

as I have said before this thread is about the MODS...and their moderating.. ::) ::)

just saying...

Neferti wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:48pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 17th, 2014 at 5:27pm: Cods, here are Freediver's rules regarding the member run boards: freediver wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 11:31am: It is possible for me to ban members from individual boards, but it is a complicated process. So please follow this procedure. Temporary bans will not be given, so use all other avenues first. For all members: Please follow the instructions of board moderators. If you don't like them, cease to use the board. This is the most powerful mechanism you have to handle poor board management. You may of course complain to the mod publicly or privately, but give it up if it is not achieving anything. If they ask you to stop posting on the board, stop posting on the board. If you refuse to follow their instructions, you will be blocked from the board and also suspended from the whole forum. For board moderators: 1) Warn the member via PM and then publicly that they are breaking the rules. 2) If they persist in being disruptive, send them a PM notifying them that they are banned from the board. Include a link to this post so that they are aware of the ban and my expectations of them under this procedure. CC a copy of this PM to me. At this stage the member is expected to voluntarily refrain from using the board. 3) If they continue to post, advise them publicly that they are banned, or refer them to their PM from you if you want to be more subtle. This is in case they don't read their PMs. 4) If they continue to post, PM me with a link to their public warning and where they posted afterwards, and quotes. I will put in an appropriate ban at that stage. This could be a ban from the board, from the section or from the entire forum. I will not ban people from individual party boards. On the first offence you will be banned from the entire section (currently 6 boards) or from the entire forum. For member run boards, I have traditionally banned people from individual boards first, then from the entire section. I will continue this for the moment. If the 'offence' is particularly nasty the member will be banned or suspended from the entire forum. The point of this process, and the member run boards in general, is to reduce the workload on myself and the other global mods. I expect the board mods to make a reasonable effort to handle and diffuse a problem themselves before asking for a ban. I do not want the board mods to use bans as part of any personal disagreements. I was banned for 24 hours some months ago when I poked my nose into Aussie's relationship board.  I immediately got "banned" because Aussie doesn't like me (pay back). Yes and he chases me around the Forums, posting tid bits and sniffing at my arse like a puppy on heat! STALKING ME! He has this problem with other females too, I gather. I was advised by Muso, the Global Mod at that time, that Aussie did not have the buttons to ban me, Aussie had asked Muso to ban me, without explaining why.  I think I still have the PM exchange here, somewhere.  Want me to post it up? Aussie is throwing his weight around, as usual.  He wants to be a Global Moderator with ALL the buttons to be able to ban (forever) many of his adversaries.  It won't happen, no matter how many votes he gets.  ;D Aussie started his own Political Animal Forum a few years ago. Many of us immediately joined. He was going to have the BEST POLITICAL FORUM since the ABC JJJ canned it, EVERYONE from way back would wander in and continue on how it "used to be"  ........ blah blah blah It FAILED miserably because Aussie pulled the plug on it because he had absolutely NO IDEA about running a COMPUTER, less alone a forum.  ;D ;D IT's a "control" thing with Aussie. Plus he has a hang up about Political Animal.

I will not be provoked by your Posts Neferti, no matter how outrageous and irrelevant the contents are.

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:59pm:

Neferti wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 3:48pm: Aussie is throwing his weight around, as usual.  He wants to be a Global Moderator with ALL the buttons to be able to ban (forever) many of his adversaries.  It won't happen, no matter how many votes he get so what are your thoughts about AA...aussie as far as I can make out can only use his power on his own little board.. but AA can wield it all over the place...and of course FD has made it clear mods are off limits when it comes to complaining... do you think some throw their weight around regardless... just because as you say they dont like someone.. AA and I go back a long way...she didnt like me then and even less now.... should I be afraid.. ;) ;).. seems to me the mods can say and do what they like without recourse..but us we have to take their slings and arrows??... as I have said before this thread is about the MODS...and their moderating.. ::) ::) just saying...

You go back years, have never got along and you still haven't been banned?  :o

Aussie wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:57pm:

1.  Inappropriate post. 2.  Made by LGO, husband of a GM. 3.  Post still there. 4.  LGO apparanetly still here, because the Members know nothing different. 5.  Conclusion ~ preferential treatment.

you dont get it do you aussie...


the post was about ME.... CODS>. she hates cods.. has done for some time...why I do not know.. but she joined a certain party by the name of lisagreek a few years back who was a very bad dude.. he did eventually get banned for good I believe..but she is still here and she joined him on many of his really bad posts.. agreeing with anything and everything he said about me...it was DEEP DOWN HATE.

if you check out this thread you will see it for yourself there is much HATE on this forum..

and when you HATE someone you dont help them even if its your job to do so....why would you???..

Aussie wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:57pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 11:36am: mantra wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:39am: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 8:59am: thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me... Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair. You are way out of line by suggesting that I am unfair, Mantra. I am sick of your snide insinuations. You're also out of line in suggesting that just because LGO is my husband, I'd let that post slide. How about you show me where I've been inconsistent or unfair? I reckon that is where a problem arises.  Members do not see the evidence because the GMs seem to have a practice of, more often than not, not providing a 'complaining' Member with any feedback following a complaint.  That is why I was quite surprised that Freedumb had been told by a GM that JaSin had been banned, and why I started this Thread ~ not as a witch-hunt, but to highlight a bizarre consistency. LGO's Post was way, way out of line.  Yet, his comments are still there, and for all the Members know, so is LGO ~ untouched. It makes it very tough on you AA, given you have revealed your close personal relationship with LGO, and given he has a robust posting style. The adverse perception is inevitable. 1.  Inappropriate post. 2.  Made by LGO, husband of a GM. 3.  Post still there. 4.  LGO apparanetly still here, because the Members know nothing different. 5.  Conclusion ~ preferential treatment. No criticism intended.  I'm trying to explain why Members are left bewildered on occasions. If one Member get advice about a banning (and I have to say that I saw nothing JaSin posted on the Forum which would justify it ~ especially given the obvious flirtatious nature of Freedumb ~ maybe there was something in PMs....but the obvious solution there is for Freedumb not to read his PMs, or even turn PMs off altogether) then again, there is every reason Members would become confused about inconsistency, or perhaps yet again, preferential treatment. AA, if there is preferential treatment ~ that is unfair Moderating. Hope that is accepted as meant to be of assistance, and not seen as a brick bat.

I appreciate your post, Aussie. I won't publicly be discussing the status of another member except to reinforce that LGO is subject to the same rules and punishments as everyone else, regardless of his relationship to me.

I also won't be defending myself further - people will believe what they want to. I am very comfortable with my decisions. Members who are determined to see issues where there are none are welcome to contact FD, who has all the relevant information.

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 3:59pm: Neferti wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 3:48pm: Aussie is throwing his weight around, as usual.  He wants to be a Global Moderator with ALL the buttons to be able to ban (forever) many of his adversaries.  It won't happen, no matter how many votes he get so what are your thoughts about AA...aussie as far as I can make out can only use his power on his own little board.. but AA can wield it all over the place...and of course FD has made it clear mods are off limits when it comes to complaining... do you think some throw their weight around regardless... just because as you say they dont like someone.. AA and I go back a long way...she didnt like me then and even less now.... should I be afraid.. ;) ;).. seems to me the mods can say and do what they like without recourse..but us we have to take their slings and arrows??... as I have said before this thread is about the MODS...and their moderating.. ::) ::) just saying... You go back years, have never got along and you still haven't been banned?  :o

well I am sick of explaining myself... but you see she wasnt on here for a long time.. all those years of BAD I was able to forget thankfully..

then she was made a MOD..she said something cant think what and the penny dropped I remember it clearly...

I have dealt mainly with perc muso and FD..never AA..I think the main reason for being banned is when someone dobs you in and the mod agrees they have stepped over the line....

maybe then can ban you just because they dont like you... I dont know...I am so disliked on this forum...you wouldnt believe... but I knwo who I am what you see is what you get..I stick up for the under dog..thats not a good thing with some people...

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 4:08pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:01pm: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 3:59pm: Neferti wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 3:48pm: Aussie is throwing his weight around, as usual.  He wants to be a Global Moderator with ALL the buttons to be able to ban (forever) many of his adversaries.  It won't happen, no matter how many votes he get so what are your thoughts about AA...aussie as far as I can make out can only use his power on his own little board.. but AA can wield it all over the place...and of course FD has made it clear mods are off limits when it comes to complaining... do you think some throw their weight around regardless... just because as you say they dont like someone.. AA and I go back a long way...she didnt like me then and even less now.... should I be afraid.. ;) ;).. seems to me the mods can say and do what they like without recourse..but us we have to take their slings and arrows??... as I have said before this thread is about the MODS...and their moderating.. ::) ::) just saying... You go back years, have never got along and you still haven't been banned?  :o well I am sick of explaining myself... but you see she wasnt on here for a long time.. all those years of BAD I was able to forget thankfully.. then she was made a MOD..she said something cant think what and the penny dropped I remember it clearly... I have dealt mainly with perc muso and FD..never AA..I think the main reason for being banned is when someone dobs you in and the mod agrees they have stepped over the line.... maybe then can ban you just because they dont like you... I dont know...I am so disliked on this forum...you wouldnt believe... but I knwo who I am what you see is what you get..I stick up for the under dog..thats not a good thing with some people...

I don't dislike you, cods.  :) You have a friend here, as much as one can be a friend in a place like this, anyway.

Have you PMed any of these mods about your issues with being personally abused, etc?

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 4:08pm:

maybe then can ban you just because they dont like you... I dont know...I am so disliked on this forum...you wouldnt believe... but I knwo who I am what you see is what you get..I stick up for the under dog..thats not a good thing with some people...

Cods - whenever a person is honest, there will be someone who takes offence and then gets hung up on your words and won't let go. The truth hurts. The people who enjoy your posts far outweigh those people who don't.

Maybe a moderator could ban you if they didn't like you, but as a rule they never have and certainly shouldn't start now.

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 4:14pm:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:08pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:01pm: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 3:59pm: Neferti wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 3:48pm: Aussie is throwing his weight around, as usual.  He wants to be a Global Moderator with ALL the buttons to be able to ban (forever) many of his adversaries.  It won't happen, no matter how many votes he get so what are your thoughts about AA...aussie as far as I can make out can only use his power on his own little board.. but AA can wield it all over the place...and of course FD has made it clear mods are off limits when it comes to complaining... do you think some throw their weight around regardless... just because as you say they dont like someone.. AA and I go back a long way...she didnt like me then and even less now.... should I be afraid.. ;) ;).. seems to me the mods can say and do what they like without recourse..but us we have to take their slings and arrows??... as I have said before this thread is about the MODS...and their moderating.. ::) ::) just saying... You go back years, have never got along and you still haven't been banned?  :o well I am sick of explaining myself... but you see she wasnt on here for a long time.. all those years of BAD I was able to forget thankfully.. then she was made a MOD..she said something cant think what and the penny dropped I remember it clearly... I have dealt mainly with perc muso and FD..never AA..I think the main reason for being banned is when someone dobs you in and the mod agrees they have stepped over the line.... maybe then can ban you just because they dont like you... I dont know...I am so disliked on this forum...you wouldnt believe... but I knwo who I am what you see is what you get..I stick up for the under dog..thats not a good thing with some people... I don't dislike you, cods.  :) You have a friend here, as much as one can be a friend in a place like this, anyway. Have you PMed any of these mods about your issues with being personally abused, etc?

thanks free I am you friend as well.. I have actually made one or two what I would call lifelong friends on this forum...that will shock a couple or three..but yes I have in the past...comments about my dead husband being glad he was dead.. and that sort of thing wore me down...and then when cyber bullying became a known fact I realised that was what was happening to me....and to mantra....suddenly little groups would kind of get on side with the person with the worst mouth.. just like in school.the nasty person collects the gang because everyone is scared they will be next...

its for real when it happens to you.. then Charlotte Dawson committed suicide..and I thought my god I know how she felt...isnt that a shocker...from being on here..I love to chat have my say have an opinion read how other s ee it..especially when the world is in such a mess....but for some unknown reason.. some cant stand me.. anything about me...mantra says I am too honest blunt could be another word.. but I do try not to be personal its usually when I am pushed...what the other persons says is usually more subtle..maybe I should learn subtle...lololol.

but you are at least interested therefore I trust you wont judge people and put them into little pockets.. like some do...and I dont expect you to take sides...just understand thats all.

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 2:36pm: mantra wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:39am: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 8:59am: thanks mantra... watch out these people dont turn on you...they are do brave behind their little ids...pathetic is another word for them. dont tell me life goes on is married to FD???...nothing would surprise me... Apparently he's married to someone here who can protect him from the powers of moderation. Aussie should be appointed a global moderator. Some might think he's harsh - but he's at least fair. now you're not being fair to a certain mod ... did you ask her to act on it? or even another mod? Read my post properly. I said "can" protect him - not "always", "does", "did" etc. It's says more about the person who posted all that abuse. Look at some of you jumping up and down about my comment - yet not a harsh word for the perpetrator. Yes - I asked 2 mods to act on it. Message the mods and ask whether they've banned the perpetrator. It seems a new member can be told about certain members being banned, so maybe they'll tell you.

you impliey that Annie isn't fair and was somehow protecting her husband, something you later refused to provide proof off  .... try to justify it to yourself all you like, it was still a cheap shot

As for the 'harsh words for the perp', It just so happenes that I agree with him . If you are waiting for me to complain about what he said you may be waiting a while ...  I have no obligations to complain about breaks off the rules, I'm not a mod.

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 4:23pm:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:08pm: maybe then can ban you just because they dont like you... I dont know...I am so disliked on this forum...you wouldnt believe... but I knwo who I am what you see is what you get..I stick up for the under dog..thats not a good thing with some people... Cods - whenever a person is honest, there will be someone who takes offence and then gets hung up on your words and won't let go. The truth hurts. The people who enjoy your posts far outweigh those people who don't. Maybe a moderator could ban you if they didn't like you, but as a rule they never have and certainly shouldn't start now.

I guess we will find out.. if I get banned I will pm you when i get unbanned... hows that  at least we will both know... ;D ;D ;D

I am going to go out and smell my roses they are just heaven right now...wish I could give you some..

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 12:09pm: Herb, there's not a thing on ozpolitics that would really bother me. If everyone just said what they had to say (such as, their worst) and moved on, no insult would be too bad.Just don't stalk someone you don't like/disagree with by responding to every post they make. There's no mystery that I don't like/agree with John Smith, but we leave each other alone. That's probably the best way; and don't get bogged down by old war wounds. I have tried all that,,.  whats your plan B.. this is the trouble we get all this advice.. and its been done to death...nothing works...i wouldnt go near some folks with a 10 foot as the saying goes.. but it doesnt stop the bullying.. and YES it is bullying when its "unwelcome" and "uncalled" for..

make your posts coherant, and leave the whining out of it .. contrary to your belief, I don't target you, I target comments that I disagree with ... it just so happens that you say more stupid things than most others on here.

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 3:29pm: this is the trouble we get all this advice.. and its been done to death...nothing works...i wouldnt go near some folks with a 10 foot as the saying goes.. but it doesnt stop the bullying..and YES it is bullying when its "unwelcome" and "uncalled" for.. You're not talking about the person who just accused me of taking cheap shots are you Cods?

I didn't 'accuse' you off anything. ... your comment was a cheap shot. That is a fact and not an acccusation.

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 3:35pm:

Well there is a solution -- we all stop being arseholes?  :D

speak for yourself .... I'm a saint  ;D ;D ;D

Wow!

We are a happy lot of little vegemites this afternoon aren't we?

Anyone who tells me to get stuffed will be reported to a mod.

:D

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

Wow! We are a happy lot of little vegemites this afternoon aren't we? Anyone who tells me to get stuffed will be reported to a mod. :D

You could do that, but you're not guaranteed a ban.  ;)

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 4:39pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:37pm: Wow! We are a happy lot of little vegemites this afternoon aren't we? Anyone who tells me to get stuffed will be reported to a mod. :D You could do that, but you're not guaranteed a ban.  ;)

is "get stuffed" on the BAD LIST??.. I didnt see that..

you havent had my stuffed mushrooms or stuffed prawns..... oh those ginger stuffed prawns..

you can get rid of a lot of angst stuffing something you know... good therapy... :D

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:20pm:

you can get rid of a lot of angst stuffing something you know... good therapy...

Not sure I want to go there at the moment!

;)

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:20pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:39pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:37pm: Wow! We are a happy lot of little vegemites this afternoon aren't we? Anyone who tells me to get stuffed will be reported to a mod. :D You could do that, but you're not guaranteed a ban.  ;) is "get stuffed" on the BAD LIST??.. I didnt see that.. you havent had my stuffed mushrooms or stuffed prawns..... oh those ginger stuffed prawns.. you can get rid of a lot of angst stuffing something you know... good therapy... :D

I wonder if that will be censored to say "get nice person" in the future?  :D

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:41pm:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:20pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:39pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:37pm: Wow! We are a happy lot of little vegemites this afternoon aren't we? Anyone who tells me to get stuffed will be reported to a mod. :D You could do that, but you're not guaranteed a ban.  ;) is "get stuffed" on the BAD LIST??.. I didnt see that.. you havent had my stuffed mushrooms or stuffed prawns..... oh those ginger stuffed prawns.. you can get rid of a lot of angst stuffing something you know... good therapy... :D I wonder if that will be censored to say "get nice person" in the future?  :D

well I tried calling terrorist NICE PEOPLE. but it didnt work.. it made me madder..

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:43pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:41pm: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:20pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:39pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:37pm: Wow! We are a happy lot of little vegemites this afternoon aren't we? Anyone who tells me to get stuffed will be reported to a mod. :D You could do that, but you're not guaranteed a ban.  ;) is "get stuffed" on the BAD LIST??.. I didnt see that.. you havent had my stuffed mushrooms or stuffed prawns..... oh those ginger stuffed prawns.. you can get rid of a lot of angst stuffing something you know... good therapy... :D I wonder if that will be censored to say "get nice person" in the future?  :D well I tried calling terrorist NICE PEOPLE. but it didnt work.. it made me madder..

Who wouldn't get mad?  :P

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:43pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:41pm: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:20pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:39pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:37pm: Wow! We are a happy lot of little vegemites this afternoon aren't we? Anyone who tells me to get stuffed will be reported to a mod. :D You could do that, but you're not guaranteed a ban.  ;) is "get stuffed" on the BAD LIST??.. I didnt see that.. you havent had my stuffed mushrooms or stuffed prawns..... oh those ginger stuffed prawns.. you can get rid of a lot of angst stuffing something you know... good therapy... :D I wonder if that will be censored to say "get nice person" in the future?  :D well I tried calling terrorist NICE PEOPLE. but it didnt work.. it made me madder.. Who wouldn't get mad?  :P

shhhhhh a few on here thought it was a good thing for us to try its all our fault dontcha know......shhhhh dont wake them up they will take your head off..

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:51pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:46pm: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:43pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:41pm: cods wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:20pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:39pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 4:37pm: Wow! We are a happy lot of little vegemites this afternoon aren't we? Anyone who tells me to get stuffed will be reported to a mod. :D You could do that, but you're not guaranteed a ban.  ;) is "get stuffed" on the BAD LIST??.. I didnt see that.. you havent had my stuffed mushrooms or stuffed prawns..... oh those ginger stuffed prawns.. you can get rid of a lot of angst stuffing something you know... good therapy... :D I wonder if that will be censored to say "get nice person" in the future?  :D well I tried calling terrorist NICE PEOPLE. but it didnt work.. it made me madder.. Who wouldn't get mad?  :P shhhhhh a few on here thought it was a good thing for us to try its all our fault dontcha know......shhhhh dont wake them up they will take your head off..

My bad. Terrorists are lovely people. Let's welcome them into our homes and cook them a meal for all of their hard work and efforts into killing people.  ;)

You girls havent been drinking have you?

Just asking?

LOL  ;)

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

You girls havent been drinking have you? Just asking? LOL  ;)

I drank last night. Maybe it's still in my system  ;)

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

You girls havent been drinking have you? Just asking? LOL  ;)

would you rather we were spitting dirt at each other... ;) ;)..

I dont drink I am naturally happy..some people bring the worst out in me..and I agree its my fault for allowing it to happen...so I am now having a conversation with free who like myself doesnt need drink to be a noice person.

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:57pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:55pm: You girls havent been drinking have you? Just asking? LOL  ;) I drank last night. Maybe it's still in my system  ;)

oh bugger and I have just put in a good word for you... :o

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:57pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 5:55pm: You girls havent been drinking have you? Just asking? LOL  ;) I drank last night. Maybe it's still in my system  ;) oh bugger and I have just put in a good word for you... :o

Ha! Well if it helps, I don't drink very often. Last night was the first time in around 4 months.. some people can't last a day.

Global mods are not supposed to reveal info about who has been banned.

Member run board mods are required to issue a public warning as part of the process - but this is more a result of a deficiency in the forum software rather than by choice.

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Global mods are not supposed to reveal info about who has been banned. Member run board mods are required to issue a public warning as part of the process - but this is more a result of a deficiency in the forum software rather than by choice.

Okay.....but would it not help the GMs and the Members a great deal if everyone was aware of any limitations or restrictions (Rules) you have imposed upon the GMs?

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

would you rather we were spitting dirt at each other...  ..

I will ignore that one!


cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

I dont drink I am naturally happy..some people bring the worst out in me..and I agree its my fault for allowing it to happen...so I am now having a conversation with free who like myself doesnt need drink to be a noice person.

Good to see, I thought you both were on a bit of a happy sounding roll!

No offence meant!

The moral of the story: don't seek out therapy on ozpolitics.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

The moral of the story: don't seek out therapy on ozpolitics.

it is unlikely you'll hear this coming from me very often, but on this occassion I agree with you 100%

Noooooooooo! Pass me the razor blades!

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Noooooooooo! Pass me the razor blades!

give me a PO box address you can get access too and i'll send you some  ;D ;D ;D

Personally, I would see a bit of "naming & shaming", as appropriate, given that the judgement of the Moderator is the member has "crossed the line", particularly IF it assists in pulling "some" members back into line!

I would also suggest "some" other measures, to lessen the impact of "some" members, who seem happy enough to "crossed the line" and do so repeatedly, with only minor cost to them, particularly those who "employ" a sock or socks, in an attempt to avoid any  penalty's!

And, whilst I would concede these measures may reduce the forum usage "somewhat", at least for a while & therefore the possible forum income, I would suggest if measures along these lines are not taken, then it is likely this forum will finally go the way of others here (in OZ ), in the US & elsewhere, in that it will simply disappear and I don't see that as being in the best interests of either the owner or the members!

Anyway, a "few" things to think about or not?      

Cheers! 

perceptions_now wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Personally, I would see a bit of "naming & shaming", as appropriate, given that the judgement of the Moderator is the member has "crossed the line", particularly IF it assists in pulling "some" members back into line! I would also suggest "some" other measures, to lessen the impact of "some" members, who seem happy enough to "crossed the line" and do so repeatedly, with only minor cost to them, particularly those who "employ" a sock or socks, in an attempt to avoid any  penalty's! And, whilst I would concede these measures may reduce the forum usage "somewhat", at least for a while & therefore the possible forum income, I would suggest if measures along these lines are not taken, then it is likely this forum will finally go the way of others here (in OZ ), in the US & elsewhere, in that it will simply disappear and I don't see that as being in the best interests of either the owner or the members! Anyway, a "few" things to think about or not?       Cheers!

I agree with that 100%.  Most here would. 

I reckon the Forum as a whole, including the G/Moderators, would significantly benefit if FD's Rules about GM moderation (and any limit/restriction thereon) were widely known.............as it is with the limitations imposed on the Mods of the Member run Boards.  (In that case, everyone is aware of the (elongated) process which has to be gone through before any effective action will be taken.)

What is the logical explanation as to why the same awareness is not available to everyone concerning the Global Mods, PN?

Thanks for that perceptions now. Are abuse/insults/threats different if it is among people who aren't so thin-skinned?

IT IS JUST A FORUM .... not real life. As ADULTS we should ALL  be able to constrain ourselves ....... but constant harassment can affect even the most normal of people!

Some individuals appear to be hell bent on harassing and trolling certain parties. This is UNACCEPTABLE.

Every time I post, a certain individual feels the desire to reply ........... wait a bit. He will.  ;) This is called TROLLING. Then this individual has a go at me for "responding" and threatens "banning".

I am here to defend CODS as she seems to be the butt of many insults.

Hang in there, Cods.

perceptions_now wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Personally, I would see a bit of "naming & shaming", as appropriate, given that the judgement of the Moderator is the member has "crossed the line", particularly IF it assists in pulling "some" members back into line! I would also suggest "some" other measures, to lessen the impact of "some" members, who seem happy enough to "crossed the line" and do so repeatedly, with only minor cost to them, particularly those who "employ" a sock or socks, in an attempt to avoid any  penalty's! And, whilst I would concede these measures may reduce the forum usage "somewhat"

Oh say it isn't so, they all scream that no body uses socks here sir.
There must be a bloody lot of them too if you think it could reduce the forum usage " somewhat" too. :-?

Neferti wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:16pm:

IT IS JUST A FORUM .... not real life. As ADULTS we should ALL  be able to constrain ourselves ....... but constant harassment can affect even the most normal of people! Some individuals appear to be hell bent on harassing and trolling certain parties. This is UNACCEPTABLE. Every time I post, a certain individual feels the desire to reply ........... wait a bit. He will.  ;) This is called TROLLING. Then this individual has a go at me for "responding" and threatens "banning". I am here to defend CODS as she seems to be the butt of many insults. Hang in there, Cods.

hahahaha hang is not a good word to use actually...

but at the end of the day it isnt only ME that cops it...and this is the point.. dont you think it spoils the forum.???  as in my mind there is no need for it..

yep I have seen a bit where threads get totally trashed because usually two people have a need to insult left and right...I dont really go in for that.. so far its been one person and as you say when you hit back..your threatened with being banned its a joke.....

then  out comes someone like Phem who thinks he knows everything about everyone.. and he picks his side...usually the one that is the aggressor...yes I use that word intentionally...because he does....he doesnt have a clue what people have gone through and

if you read the vicious post froma mods husband... to myself you will have some idea that it is more than INSULTING....if anything it breaks just about all the rules that said mod seems to get satisfaction out of reminding the peasants on here about...

I did not know of their acquaintance  let alone marriage...before this...to think the mod then attacks someone else here.. calling them snide.. ::) ::)

and not a word about the filthy post....

to say I am gobsmacked is putting it mildly.

when you claim a certain individual is following you around the forum now you have some idea what I have put up with since I dont know when...its been forever.

yes I do ignore most of it.. but the fact that not one mod has done anything about it unless you call the odd banning for a couple of days....doing it tough....and then before you know it.. its business as per usual...

so I trust you dont expect any help from said moderators..and I feel for you if you are being treated like I have been.....at least you belong to another forum and can get away from such a creep........ at least I dont see you much on here.....I wish you well Nef.. and may you be left alone to enjoy your time on which ever forum you chose to be on...

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:57pm:

and not a word about the filthy post....

Cods - it's obviously not going to be deleted and will stay there for everyone to see.  Feel sorry for them. If they can explode like that publicly then they've got problems.

skippy. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:29pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 7:53pm: Personally, I would see a bit of "naming & shaming", as appropriate, given that the judgement of the Moderator is the member has "crossed the line", particularly IF it assists in pulling "some" members back into line! I would also suggest "some" other measures, to lessen the impact of "some" members, who seem happy enough to "crossed the line" and do so repeatedly, with only minor cost to them, particularly those who "employ" a sock or socks, in an attempt to avoid any  penalty's! And, whilst I would concede these measures may reduce the forum usage "somewhat"  Oh say it isn't so, they all scream that no body uses socks here sir. There must be a bloody lot of them too if you think it could reduce the forum usage " somewhat" too. :-?

I was thinking the same thing. There are so many new members who seem to know the existing members very well. The other alternative could be that they've been reading Ozpolitic for years and finally pluck up the courage to join, but I doubt it.

mantra wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:36am:

skippy. wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:29pm: perceptions_now wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 7:53pm: Personally, I would see a bit of "naming & shaming", as appropriate, given that the judgement of the Moderator is the member has "crossed the line", particularly IF it assists in pulling "some" members back into line! I would also suggest "some" other measures, to lessen the impact of "some" members, who seem happy enough to "crossed the line" and do so repeatedly, with only minor cost to them, particularly those who "employ" a sock or socks, in an attempt to avoid any  penalty's! And, whilst I would concede these measures may reduce the forum usage "somewhat"  Oh say it isn't so, they all scream that no body uses socks here sir. There must be a bloody lot of them too if you think it could reduce the forum usage " somewhat" too. :-? I was thinking the same thing. There are so many new members who seem to know the existing members very well. The other alternative could be that they've been reading Ozpolitic for years and finally pluck up the courage to join, but I doubt it.

at the end of the day mantra it comes back to the moderating...hey know who these people are..if people on the forum can pick them out what does that say about those in charge?????...the person who made the vilest post in all my time on here or on yahoo...will come back under another ID...but the mouth wont change..it never does..

there is something wrong when people have to change their nic.. without telling everyone they have done so...its the first thing I did when I altered the spelling of mine...whats to hide..I dont pretend and put on a fancy facade like some do...

and as we know some dont like the truth as others see it.. only their own version...

cods wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:58am:

there is something wrong when people have to change their nic.. without telling everyone they have done so...its the first thing I did when I altered the spelling of mine...whats to hide..I dont pretend and put on a fancy facade like some do...

These people have a problem with self control and no doubt after numerous bannings believe that a name change will bring a fresh start and no-one will be the wiser. Moderators have to care enough to do something about it and that's a big ask considering they have time constraints.

Some moderators have made the time to remove the serial pests, but we shouldn't take it for granted that they all will.

mantra wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:10am:

cods wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 5:58am: there is something wrong when people have to change their nic.. without telling everyone they have done so...its the first thing I did when I altered the spelling of mine...whats to hide..I dont pretend and put on a fancy facade like some do... These people have a problem with self control and no doubt after numerous bannings believe that a name change will bring a fresh start and no-one will be the wiser. Moderators have to care enough to do something about it and that's a big ask considering they have time constraints. Some moderators have made the time to remove the serial pests, but we shouldn't take it for granted that they all will.

I appreciate it isnt exactly a paid position but I find it unacceptable when a mod joins in and shows their true colours...

.when others see a mod having a go at you....they must feel justified in what they do...

at least thats the way I see it..

cods wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:20am:

I appreciate it isnt exactly a paid position but I find it unacceptable when a mod joins in and shows their true colours....when others see a mod having a go at you....they must feel justified in what they do...at least thats the way I see it..

There have always been spats between moderators and members. They aren't perfect and neither are we. A moderator years ago joined in on an attack on me. We both said our piece fairly quickly and moved on, but we kept our distance from each other afterwards. There is nothing we can do about who they like and don't like. Just accept it and post in the sub-forums where you feel comfortable. Holding onto irritation or animosity makes it less enjoyable to post here - for me anyway.

Mantra, you may find this hard to believe,  but I read ozpolitics fairly regularly for two years before I decided to participate. I didn't feel I needed to. Lately, the attacks on all things Australian have prompted me to defend the country I love, even against an elitist little group of lonely pseudo intellectuals that feel they have a monopoly on free speech.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:54am:

Mantra, you may find this hard to believe,  but I read ozpolitics fairly regularly for two years before I decided to participate. I didn't feel I needed to. Lately, the attacks on all things Australian have prompted me to defend the country I love, even against an elitist little group of lonely pseudo intellectuals that feel they have a monopoly on free speech.

That's good to hear. I wasn't sure whether you were a new member or otherwise, but you've alleviated some doubt. Personally I haven't noticed any lonely pseudo intellectuals here - just ordinary people expressing their opinions.

What about the folks on here that are looking to ban someone on here every 30 seconds for every little thing even if it's not directed at them. Couldn't they just start a private correspondence with the people they liked?

mantra wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 8:04am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 7:54am: Mantra, you may find this hard to believe,  but I read ozpolitics fairly regularly for two years before I decided to participate. I didn't feel I needed to. Lately, the attacks on all things Australian have prompted me to defend the country I love, even against an elitist little group of lonely pseudo intellectuals that feel they have a monopoly on free speech. That's good to hear. I wasn't sure whether you were a new member or otherwise, but you've alleviated some doubt. Personally I haven't noticed any lonely pseudo intellectuals here - just ordinary people expressing their opinions.

gosh mantra I trust you are not referring to reply No 29 on this very thread....as being from a ordinary person just expressing their opinion.... ::) ::)..

perhaps bubba hasnt read it yet...or he could even be faintly amused by it I wouldnt know...but having read the BAD and then the wannabee intellectuals who  like to think they know more about a person than they know themselves..[ ;D]

I am inclined to agree with him.. the opinionated intellectuals on here and the just plain rude and ignorant...do not come under my heading.of ordinary people..

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 9:12am:

What about the folks on here that are looking to ban someone on here every 30 seconds for every little thing even if it's not directed at them. Couldn't they just start a private correspondence with the people they liked?

well YESSSSSSSSSSSS if they were intellegent enough you would kind of expect that..

the sad fact is they dont come on here to be friendly not the ones I am referring too anyway...they are pretty low people who come on these type of forums to stir and if they can make others hate the said people they have it in for all the better...

I hope you dont run across them I really do.. wouldnt wish them on my worst enemy...

this isnt about banning actually well for me it isnt its about stopping what goes on...

I mean if a mods husband goes about as low as anyone can go.. then what hope is there for stopping it???? :D..

we move on bubba.perhaps they will take you good advice and only deal with people they like..

mantra wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:10am:

cods wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 5:58am: there is something wrong when people have to change their nic.. without telling everyone they have done so...its the first thing I did when I altered the spelling of mine...whats to hide..I dont pretend and put on a fancy facade like some do... These people have a problem with self control and no doubt after numerous bannings believe that a name change will bring a fresh start and no-one will be the wiser. Moderators have to care enough to do something about it and that's a big ask considering they have time constraints. Some moderators have made the time to remove the serial pests, but we shouldn't take it for granted that they all will.

I've changed mine a couple of times but each has been fairly obviously cat-related, and I've made no secret of the fact
that it's me.

The changes haven't ever been made to avoid a ban or to launch an 'anonymous' attack on anyone, nor have I posted
under 'Kat' and one of the alternatives at the same time.

I do have to raise the odd eyebrow whenever a 'new' member turns up and within a few posts 'knows' exactly who's
who, how they're aligned politically and socially, and EXACTLY which 'buttons' to push to get a reaction. They then
select their 'victim/s' and will go from thread to thread, post to post, harassing, annoying, heckling and abusing.

Whether they get banned or just get bored, I don't know. But within hours or days they're gone, only to be replaced
by one or more clones following exactly the same 'battle-plan'.

I'd hazard a guess that no more than a third of the 'new' members who register actually are new. The rest are either
socks or legit re-activations or changes to existing memberships a la Bobby and Cods.

I think it's a bit silly, and a little sad, if people are going on here "anonymously" just to troll or abuse somebody.

Doing it on your original ID is cowardly enough -- we don't really know each other anyway. (unless we choose to stay in contact and become friends with somebody outside of the forum) But then to go and make a fake ID to troll? That's just beyond cowardly.

Going back to the Political Animal election.. somebody going to major lengths to elect Aussie. I couldn't help but laugh.

I think it's sad that there are a half a dozen or so 'regulars' on ozpolitics all day every day that think that a public forum should be their own little glee club.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:44pm:

I think it's sad that there are a half a dozen or so 'regulars' on ozpolitics all day every day that think that a public forum should be their own little glee club.

What do you think our parliament is if not a private little glee club where politicians make decisions that bear no resemblance to majority public opinion?

Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 2:31pm:

Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia.

leave cods alone you bully

;D ;D

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 2:31pm:

Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia.

I also can not think of one treated as badly ?

Dnarever wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:31pm: Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia. I also can not think of one treated as badly ?

The surprising thing is that if Pauline Hanson herself had been elected PM she couldn't have done a worse job than Julia Gillard.

Her reign as PM was a constant embarrassment to the Labor Party, and was one long series of Comedy of Errors.

They really should think of putting on Gillard's time in government as a musical stage show reminiscent of The Rocky Horror Show.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:49pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:54pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:31pm: Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia. I also can not think of one treated as badly ? The surprising thing is that if Pauline Hanson herself had been elected PM she couldn't have done a worse job than Julia Gillard. Her reign as PM was a constant embarrassment to the Labor Party, and was one long series of Comedy of Errors. They really should think of putting on Gillard's time in government as a musical stage show reminiscent of The Rocky Horror Show.

Leaving Pauline aside, we have had a succession of Prime Ministers & Governments, who certainly have not done the best thing for the long term future, of the entire country and they have been both Labor & Liberal and the situation is degenerating!

perceptions_now wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:08pm:

Leaving Pauline aside, we have had a succession of Prime Ministers & Governments, who certainly have not done the best thing for the long term future, of the entire country and they have been both Labor & Liberal and the situation is degenerating!

I agree entirely.

It's just that I wouldn't mind seeing Julia on stage in black fishnet stockings and suspenders.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:49pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:54pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:31pm: Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia. I also can not think of one treated as badly ? The surprising thing is that if Pauline Hanson herself had been elected PM she couldn't have done a worse job than Julia Gillard. Her reign as PM was a constant embarrassment to the Labor Party, and was one long series of Comedy of Errors. They really should think of putting on Gillard's time in government as a musical stage show reminiscent of The Rocky Horror Show.

Why is it that the ONLY people who hold this view are the Aussie bogan Right?

NO-ONE else in the world, Right OR Left, endorses this view, in fact the concensus of WORLD opinion
is that she did an extraordinarily GOOD job, especially as the leader of a minority government fighting
an ignorant and vicious Opposition and a hostile press.

I think it's about time the Right admitted defeat on this one. The fat lady's sung, and you lost.

Kat wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:18pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 4:49pm: Dnarever wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:54pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:31pm: Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia. I also can not think of one treated as badly ? The surprising thing is that if Pauline Hanson herself had been elected PM she couldn't have done a worse job than Julia Gillard. Her reign as PM was a constant embarrassment to the Labor Party, and was one long series of Comedy of Errors. They really should think of putting on Gillard's time in government as a musical stage show reminiscent of The Rocky Horror Show. Why is it that the ONLY people who hold this view are the Aussie bogan Right? NO-ONE else in the world, Right OR Left, endorses this view, in fact the concensus of WORLD opinion is that she did an extraordinarily GOOD job, especially as the leader of a minority government fighting an ignorant and vicious Opposition and a hostile press. I think it's about time the Right admitted defeat on this one. The fat lady's sung, and you lost.

Herbie is a troll. Nothing more.

Don't take anything he says seriously.

He opens threads (with misleading and dishonest titles), throws in a grenade, and then runs away like a pathetic coward.

He's one of the biggest jokes on this forum.

And you're right, Julia did an extraordinarily good job.

Dnarever wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:31pm: Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia. I also can not think of one treated as badly ?

what about cods??? or do, you think the attacks are justified?????..

when I am what some call whingeing.. I am in fact pointing out HOW OTHERS SEE THEM...

they think they are humorous instead I see them as sick...I see people with what they tell us are families.. that means maybe partner children in laws.. grandparents...and yet they come on here and think its ok to abuse and tell lies about a member of someone elses family..

maybe one day it will happen to a member of their family and they will first hand the destruction of their ways...


I am not always whingeing about my own experience...in fact I havent bothered a mod in a long time...whats the point.. nothing changes and in my book.. thats what its all about..changing someone from being spiteful and ill tempered on a public forum .. usually towards someone who does no more than express an opinion like 99% of people here.....

I didnt start this thread.....

neither did mantra yet we are singled out for daring to speak up...the viciousness of some people is beyond me...I think there is a mental problem lurking...and I am glad I would never ever meet them in the street...

but if you speak up you are automatically whingeing...or you draw more attacks...

to whom you are commenting I wouldnt know but can only presume you mean myself...


Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:44pm:

I think it's sad that there are a half a dozen or so 'regulars' on ozpolitics all day every day that think that a public forum should be their own little glee club.

and I can promise you nothing is further from my mind...

just because one find abuse intolerable...doesnt make us anti social...

Kat wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:18pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 4:49pm: Dnarever wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:54pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:31pm: Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia. I also can not think of one treated as badly ? The surprising thing is that if Pauline Hanson herself had been elected PM she couldn't have done a worse job than Julia Gillard. Her reign as PM was a constant embarrassment to the Labor Party, and was one long series of Comedy of Errors. They really should think of putting on Gillard's time in government as a musical stage show reminiscent of The Rocky Horror Show. Why is it that the ONLY people who hold this view are the Aussie bogan Right? NO-ONE else in the world, Right OR Left, endorses this view, in fact the concensus of WORLD opinion is that she did an extraordinarily GOOD job, especially as the leader of a minority government fighting an ignorant and vicious Opposition and a hostile press. I think it's about time the Right admitted defeat on this one. The fat lady's sung, and you lost.

so why was she shot in the back by her own???????????????????????????????????????

she would probably like to know kat as I am sure she still doesnt understand what happened..

as for ignorant and vicious thats exactly how we see your mob... so there is no difference...

every thing you ever say about the right... we think the same about your mob....you wont seee it because you are very blinkered and I accept that... but you are living in a fantasy if you think everyone loved Julia and thought she was the best......

we didnt lose anything... you did...its you that cannot accept SHE LOST HE LOST...even the labor ministers said they killed it themselves...

..

the  evil doings were in the corridors of the labor party...... no one had to do a thing.. just sit back and watch.

remember kat 100 years and the lowest primary vote EVER for Labor....and that was with their STAR at the helm....

The Lady Doth Protest Too Much Methinks!

cods wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:44pm:

remember kat 100 years and the lowest primary vote EVER for Labor....and that was with their STAR at the helm....

It wasn't a hundred years - perhaps 80 years, but these things happen.

John Howard was the second prime minister in voting history to lose his seat while still serving.

I wonder if Abbott will be the third.

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:49pm:

The Lady Doth Protest Too Much Methinks!

well not sure who asked you actually....

I am answering peoples questions... like kat has mentioned someone new comes on the scene but they are always an expert on the people they select..like yourself... you have been here before I am sure under another nic...which is fine I am not complaining...but if you are unhappy with my comments why are you here??? why do you almost always comment on something I have said.. or someone has said about me?????..

what is it??? whats your problem????...

I would rather know because you see I do not write to yourself...until now.....

you think its ok to just pop in and make a caustic comment about someone...as if it offends you... ::)

dont read/dont look/ dont open...

thats what I do when I cant stand someone..

all I want is the same respect..... leave me alone and I gladly leave you alone...

some just dont seem to understand ENGLISH...thats my trouble..ENGLISH is the only language I have.

mantra wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:57pm:

cods wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 5:44pm: remember kat 100 years and the lowest primary vote EVER for Labor....and that was with their STAR at the helm.... It wasn't a hundred years - perhaps 80 years, but these things happen. John Howard was the second prime minister in voting history to lose his seat while still serving. I wonder if Abbott will be the third.

now now this thread is about moderators... not the govt... who took it off topic...

well tell you what mantra Abbott wont go off with a knife in his back like two of your people did..all in the one term... hilarious...oops and before you start I know it was two terms... who can forget...

but I am sure shorten wishes it was only one...he will never live down what he did.TWICE.

OUCH.

Poor old cods everyone is picking on her!

Does she bring it on herself?

Make up your own mind

Its always Moan, Moan, Moan!

Poor me, Poor Me Poor Me, I slagoff others and lefties constantly but dont like them taking the piss out of me!

If you cant stand the heat cods etc etc etc!

>:( >:( >:(

Cods was joking in her response to me. I didn't take it seriously.

I was speaking in general terms mantra, not specifically about you.

She is happy to throw the sh1t  on lefties etc but whinges when they come back at her!

Cods, if I've ever said anything to offend you, I  apologise.  I don't think I ever have. When I was posting about the nasty little glee club, by all means I didn't mean you. Unlike mine,  I've always found your posts to be very polite and dignified. The only problem is that politeness and dignity are rare in politics and ultimately,  this is a political forum.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:11pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 5:08pm: Leaving Pauline aside, we have had a succession of Prime Ministers & Governments, who certainly have not done the best thing for the long term future, of the entire country and they have been both Labor & Liberal and the situation is degenerating! I agree entirely. It's just that I wouldn't mind seeing Julia on stage in black fishnet stockings and suspenders.

An acquaintance of mine was disgusted when her brother allegedly told her, "Julie Gillard is the sexiest woman in politics."

Was it you?  ;D

Wow, this has escalated.

It's become a debate about lefties and righties... Lucky I'm not any of those.  ;)

What's next, Islam and Muslim apologists, or is that the same thing?

Julia was the biggest embarrassment in Australian political history.

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:15pm:

Poor old cods everyone is picking on her! Does she bring it on herself? Make up your own mind Its always Moan, Moan, Moan! Poor me, Poor Me Poor Me, I slagoff others and lefties constantly but dont like them taking the piss out of me! If you cant stand the heat cods etc etc etc! >:( >:( >:(

you can also take my advice... how about telling us your other IDs.. then we all know wont we...I am not ashamed of my id its the same one from yahoo..




maybe you can name a few others....then again we will all be somewhat the wiser..

who do I slag off???...

I cant remember the last time i used the idiot word or abused someone for having the hide to have a different opinion to myself...

and when do I take the piss out of lefties???..

please let me know send details..

I just speak it as I see it...there is only one person I happened to let get under my skin and hit back in the language of HIS choice not mine...

and he is the only leftie I cannot stand a bar of..


and well if you have read post 29 you will see the response I have had not just from that person but also another...I dont see you complaining about them slagging me off....do you think I should turn the other cheek ?


and as for  mantra.. she is a friend of mine I am glad to say.

we are on opposite sides when it comes to politics but that doesnt stop us talking and sharing opinions...

and that redneck is how I like it...thats all I come on here for..

you think I MOAN MOAN MOAN.. well why bother with me... you are not as far as I know paid to read my posts....I dont read you anymore than I read the others...

people have a right to their opinion without someone who has taken no part in the content... coming in and making a statement like you did...



mantra has put up with a lot over a few years like myself... is that right? is it really????...

and dare we say anything and all hell breaks loose..we are the baddies all we do is whinge and moan....

so go somewhere else where your brain will be stimulated thats all I am saying...

I dont care what you say.. its been said by a dozen others over the years. when they cant back anything up.with evidence they attack as only they know how,,,,

....and as much as you would like to get rid of me.. i will go in my own time not someone elses.. and I dont like bullies so why would I do anything that would please them??...

I dont mind you having a say redneck.. but why be personal about it???..

you didnt accuse kat of complaining and moaning...


why are you here on this thread when its all about moaning and poo..



your not exactly full of scintillating conversation yourself...
from what I see your posts are all about moaning and more moaning about someone else..

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Julia was the biggest embarrassment in Australian political history.

I don't know, Christine Milne comes pretty close.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:34pm:

Cods, if I've ever said anything to offend you, I  apologise.  I don't think I ever have. When I was posting about the nasty little glee club, by all means I didn't mean you. Unlike mine,  I've always found your posts to be very polite and dignified. The only problem is that politeness and dignity are rare in politics and ultimately,  this is a political forum.

no not offended bubba just fed up...well the glee club sounded like it could only be myself seeing as how this thread is now ALL ABOUT CODS>.lol..

I do love the attention you know.. you just have to read all those who hate me...to tell you that.,

this thread is about mods... nothing else... and my opinion of them hasnt changed and I have seen nothing of late to change my mind...in fact what I think of them get proved more and more as time goes by....

you see a lot of folks on here see me as nasty... when I retaliate after enough is enough.. out they all come and shoot me down...I said this and I said that,..,but they havent seen whats been going on since year dot...

in fact sometime they comment on only one post... as if they are experts...so I have put up with it a long time... so yes I jump at everything..not good is it...its the personal stuff that pings me off...and its the same people that do it all the time....

I know what you mean about dignity being rare...

I wont go into details.. you will see peoples real colours very quickly soon enough

mantra wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:23pm:

Cods was joking in her response to me. I didn't take it seriously.

wow me joking  surely you jest?   no mantra I am the only  nasty one on here you know that???.. have I told you to F off lately?.. what about calling you an Idiot???..

I am good for all those you know...I must have used them on yourself..

what a sad lot we are...

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:

An acquaintance of mine was disgusted when her brother allegedly told her, "Julie Gillard is the sexiest woman in politics." Was it you?  ;D

No it wasn't, but I always found her to be erotically alluring despite her having thick ankles.

Even Pauline Hanson had a certain bedroom appeal that David Oldfield couldn't resist even when he was engaged to someone else.

I haven't made up my mind about Jacqui Lambie yet. I'll get back to you when I've decided.  8-)

I'm afraid I haven't got a big enough package for Jacqui.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Julia was the biggest embarrassment in Australian political history.

And to compound it all she kept dragging that hairdresser boyfriend of hers over to countries where such relationships are an embarrassing scandal of the most shameful kind.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

I'm afraid I haven't got a big enough package for Jacqui.

Speak for yourself.

I'm hung like a donkey.

I remember the time I went on holiday to one of those Pacific islands and dressed up as a donkey ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vAziBDUqRA

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 7:01pm: An acquaintance of mine was disgusted when her brother allegedly told her, "Julie Gillard is the sexiest woman in politics." Was it you?  ;D No it wasn't, but I always found her to be erotically alluring despite her having thick ankles. Even Pauline Hanson had a certain bedroom appeal that David Oldfield couldn't resist even when he was engaged to someone else. I haven't made up my mind about Jacqui Lambie yet. I'll get back to you when I've decided.  8-)

Be my guest, she's not my type at all.

Now, Kristina Keneally, on the other hand...

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cods wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:14pm:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:34pm: Cods, if I've ever said anything to offend you, I  apologise.  I don't think I ever have. When I was posting about the nasty little glee club, by all means I didn't mean you. Unlike mine,  I've always found your posts to be very polite and dignified. The only problem is that politeness and dignity are rare in politics and ultimately,  this is a political forum. no not offended bubba just fed up...well the glee club sounded like it could only be myself seeing as how this thread is now ALL ABOUT CODS>.lol.. I do love the attention you know.. you just have to read all those who hate me...to tell you that., this thread is about mods... nothing else... and my opinion of them hasnt changed and I have seen nothing of late to change my mind...in fact what I think of them get proved more and more as time goes by.... you see a lot of folks on here see me as nasty... when I retaliate after enough is enough.. out they all come and shoot me down...I said this and I said that,..,but they havent seen whats been going on since year dot... in fact sometime they comment on only one post... as if they are experts...so I have put up with it a long time... so yes I jump at everything..not good is it...its the personal stuff that pings me off...and its the same people that do it all the time.... I know what you mean about dignity being rare... I wont go into details.. you will see peoples real colours very quickly soon enough

"Cods" rhymes with "mods".  ;) Maybe this is what the confusion is about.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 7:01pm: An acquaintance of mine was disgusted when her brother allegedly told her, "Julie Gillard is the sexiest woman in politics." Was it you?  ;D No it wasn't, but I always found her to be erotically alluring despite her having thick ankles. Even Pauline Hanson had a certain bedroom appeal that David Oldfield couldn't resist even when he was engaged to someone else. I haven't made up my mind about Jacqui Lambie yet. I'll get back to you when I've decided.  8-)

Hanson and bedroom appeal!? My god, I don't see how.. or was it the way she talked? It isn't all about looks, after all.

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

I'm afraid I haven't got a big enough package for Jacqui.

I don't think she likes packages. I think boobs are more her thing...

cods wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:35pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:54pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:31pm: Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia. I also can not think of one treated as badly ? what about cods??? .

Cods is a Politician? :o :o :o :o
No wonder the country is screwed .....

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 7:40pm: I'm afraid I haven't got a big enough package for Jacqui. I don't think she likes packages. I think boobs are more her thing...

She said on radio she wanted a man who had a large package and lots of money ::) ::) ::)

John Smith wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 9:13pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 7:40pm: I'm afraid I haven't got a big enough package for Jacqui. I don't think she likes packages. I think boobs are more her thing... She said on radio she wanted a man who had a large package and lots of money ::) ::) ::)

She could be lying.  ;)

In my defence, I don't listen to radio.

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 9:13pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 7:40pm: I'm afraid I haven't got a big enough package for Jacqui. I don't think she likes packages. I think boobs are more her thing... She said on radio she wanted a man who had a large package and lots of money ::) ::) ::) She could be lying.  ;) In my defence, I don't listen to radio.

You think she prefers small packages? Welll BUbba might be in with a chance afterall .... ;D ;D ;D

it was all over all the media and a popular topic on here too .... it wasn't even that long ago

John Smith wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 9:19pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 9:14pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 9:13pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 7:40pm: I'm afraid I haven't got a big enough package for Jacqui. I don't think she likes packages. I think boobs are more her thing... She said on radio she wanted a man who had a large package and lots of money ::) ::) ::) She could be lying.  ;) In my defence, I don't listen to radio. You think she prefers small packages? Welll BUbba might be in with a chance afterall .... ;D ;D ;D it was all over all the media and a popular topic on here too .... it wasn't even that long ago

I clearly didn't see it... or maybe I'm suffering from a poor memory.

But with a comment like that, I'm sure I would've remembered!  :D

Kat wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Be my guest, she's not my type at all.

Now, Kristina Keneally, on the other hand...[/quote]

Oh yes. How could I forget her? All the more attractive since she came away from the corruption inquiry as one of the very few untainted by scandal.

When she was elected she came under accusations of being the puppet of Joe Tripodi - a smartly dressed Italian Mafia type if we've ever seen one. It turns out she rebuffed his every attempt to rope her into his corrupt dealings.

It seems that there is a great deal of consistency in moderation on this forum...

Phemanderac wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 9:33am:

It seems that there is a great deal of consistency in moderation on this forum...

must be ...

it's always the same people whinging about the same thing ... sounds fairly consistent to me  ;D ;D ;D

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 9:13pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 7:40pm: I'm afraid I haven't got a big enough package for Jacqui. I don't think she likes packages. I think boobs are more her thing... She said on radio she wanted a man who had a large package and lots of money ::) ::) ::) She could be lying.  ;) In my defence, I don't listen to radio.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-22/lambie-describes-her-ideal-man-as-well-hung-on-radio/5615164

"Are you well-hung?" asked Senator Lambie.

"Hung like a donkey," Jamie answered.

"Oh is that right! I've got a 24-year-old son who reckons he is too. (He) says that as well."

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 9:55am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 9:14pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 9:13pm: Freedumb wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 7:40pm: I'm afraid I haven't got a big enough package for Jacqui. I don't think she likes packages. I think boobs are more her thing... She said on radio she wanted a man who had a large package and lots of money ::) ::) ::) She could be lying.  ;) In my defence, I don't listen to radio. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-22/lambie-describes-her-ideal-man-as-well-hung-on-radio/5615164 "Are you well-hung?" asked Senator Lambie. "Hung like a donkey," Jamie answered. "Oh is that right! I've got a 24-year-old son who reckons he is too. (He) says that as well."

Quote:

While a guest on Hobart's Heart 107.3, the outspoken senator said she had not been in a relationship for 11 years because of physical and mental stress. "That's why I am not so worried about my waxing," she offered. When asked about removing hair from her legs, bikini line and underarms, Senator Lambie revealed all. "Right now the state I'm in, I can tell you what, you'd want to bring out that whipper snipper first."

Now strangely enough, I heard about that part of it.

I must've tuned out to the rest.

For God's Sake please keep Aussie over here and don't let him return to the forum-that-can't-be-named!!! The man is a precious gift to humanity and that-other-board simply doesn't deserve him!!

many blessings

the id aussie is forgiven fear not

all is well enough

so be at peace

namaste

- : ) =

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 2:06am:

the id aussie is forgiven fear not

You have to feel sorry for whoever it is. He's obviously obsessed with him and gone to a bit of trouble creating the account to get his attention.

mantra wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:13am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 2:06am: the id aussie is forgiven fear not You have to feel sorry for whoever it is. He's obviously obsessed with him and gone to a bit of trouble creating the account to get his attention.

could be aussie having a midlife ::)...or  split personality prob??....we have so many with personality problems on here...whats one more.. :D

Aussie. wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 1:57am:

For God's Sake please keep Aussie over here and don't let him return to the forum-that-can't-be-named!!! The man is a precious gift to humanity and that-other-board simply doesn't deserve him!!

personally I would not allow aussie to go over.. there

we need him more.........we deserve him more..

I think somebody's in love...

With Aussie.....Nah...Oh Maybe!

Freedumb wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 4:54pm:

I think somebody's in love...

?????... love is blind you know.. :D and weird.

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 6:00pm:

With Aussie.....Nah...Oh Maybe!

Sorry Redneck.  No matter how many begging PMs you send, I just don't swing your way.

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 6:00pm: With Aussie.....Nah...Oh Maybe! Sorry Redneck.  No matter how many begging PMs you send, I just don't swing your way.

oh aussie.. I thought free meant me... and its redneck all along.. :'(.. i wondered why he changed his name....just to get closer to you...I should have guessed..

you stay strong aussie.. lust can be terribly hard to resist and cyber lust... well nuff said. ;) ;)..

cods wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 6:14pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 6:00pm: With Aussie.....Nah...Oh Maybe! Sorry Redneck.  No matter how many begging PMs you send, I just don't swing your way. oh aussie.. I thought free meant me... and its redneck all along.. :'(.. i wondered why he changed his name....just to get closer to you...I should have guessed.. you stay strong aussie.. lust can be terribly hard to resist and cyber lust... well nuff said. ;) ;)..

I snorted.

Don't get me started!  :D

Freedumb wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 8:59pm:

cods wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 7:39pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 6:14pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 6:00pm: With Aussie.....Nah...Oh Maybe! Sorry Redneck.  No matter how many begging PMs you send, I just don't swing your way. oh aussie.. I thought free meant me... and its redneck all along.. :'(.. i wondered why he changed his name....just to get closer to you...I should have guessed.. you stay strong aussie.. lust can be terribly hard to resist and cyber lust... well nuff said. ;) ;).. I snorted. Don't get me started!  :D

almost everybody luvs aussie.... he has this charm.. it will wear you down eventually free..and you will find yourself warming to him..I wont call it the "hots"...because aussie gets embarrassed with the adulation..

Oi !!!

Me and Aussie...No Way, I am no poof!

How Dare You suggest such a thing!!!!

Change my name for Aussie, I am no girl..

How Rude!!! (very indignant glare!!)

>:( >:( >:( >:(

Kat wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:18pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 4:49pm: Dnarever wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:54pm: Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:31pm: Good point Herb, although I'd never heard of a politician constantly whinge about insults/profanity/abuse etc prior to Julia. I also can not think of one treated as badly ? The surprising thing is that if Pauline Hanson herself had been elected PM she couldn't have done a worse job than Julia Gillard. Her reign as PM was a constant embarrassment to the Labor Party, and was one long series of Comedy of Errors. They really should think of putting on Gillard's time in government as a musical stage show reminiscent of The Rocky Horror Show. Why is it that the ONLY people who hold this view are the Aussie bogan Right? NO-ONE else in the world, Right OR Left, endorses this view, in fact the concensus of WORLD opinion is that she did an extraordinarily GOOD job, especially as the leader of a minority government fighting an ignorant and vicious Opposition and a hostile press. I think it's about time the Right admitted defeat on this one. The fat lady's sung, and you lost.

That's why the LEFT knifed her?

::)

;D :D

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 8:06am:

Oi !!! Me and Aussie...No Way, I am no poof! How Dare You suggest such a thing!!!! Change my name for Aussie, I am no girl.. How Rude!!! (very indignant glare!!) >:( >:( >:( >:(

we are only going by what he says.. you are chasing him  and now its out there..aussie is like that...

he doesnt keep secrets very well..   do you aus???..

I know he is reading this..

he believes everyone luvs him.. in fact he knows they do..do deny all you like..


he is the Brad Pitt of the forum..


oooooooooo swooooning