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Title: Australians Take Action Post by australianstakeaction on Sep 25th, 2014 at 12:05pm
There comes a time when we have to face the fact that the people we elected into government have completely lost our trust, and if there is no trust left in our government then the government no longer represents the people of Australia. In such times, action by all of us is required.
Thankfully, the Australian Constitution provides us with a Governor General, to whom we can communicate our distrust and request for a new government to be elected. We, the Australian people, can exercise our democratic rights in a civilized, peaceful and modern way to compel our Governor General to remove the Prime Minister. Please follow to the link below for more information and share the link. australianstakeaction.wordpress.com |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Hot Breath on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:20pm
Who are "Australians Take Action"?
Why do you need a copy of the letter to the GG? What assurances do we have you aren't from ASIO and this isn't a means of identifying those who oppose the present Government and providing the Government with a nice easily accesses list of people to be apprehended and interned? ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by life_goes_on on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:25pm
Take action?
No thanks. Leave Tony where he is. I want to see how this all turns out. In tears probably, but it's sure to be entertaining. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Swagman on Sep 25th, 2014 at 2:37pm australianstakeaction wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
Australianstakeaction? You mean non-taxpaying-pimplyfaced - ecosocialist - treehugging - unistudentunionists-takeaction.dopey.pricks.org Get yourself a real job comrade and start paying some net income tax you idiot..... |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Hot Breath on Sep 25th, 2014 at 2:42pm
So, all those rich dudes who don't pay tax, like famously Kerri Packer and Rupert Murdoch are "non-taxpaying-pimplyfaced - ecosocialist - treehugging - unistudentunionists-takeaction.dopey.pricks"? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Redneck on Sep 25th, 2014 at 3:27pm
Australiastakeaction
Mmmm...Make mine Porterhouse medium rare! |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:21pm australianstakeaction wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
You're 12 months late - we've already kicked out the ALP in September 2013. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:51pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:21pm:
True: Abbott should have been removed in his first couple of weeks. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by longweekend58 on Sep 25th, 2014 at 5:55pm australianstakeaction wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
what drivel. the GG cannot order a new election. He doesn't have the power and never has had so. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Redneck on Sep 25th, 2014 at 5:58pm
I wonder if the GG has any influence with Freediver!
Mmmm Now lets see who should be removed Longprong Armpit cods |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by eagle eyes on Sep 25th, 2014 at 6:46pm australianstakeaction wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
Sorry, mate, you're naive. "Democratic rights" are worth shite. because both sides (left and right) serve the same masters. They are just like Coke and Pepsi. They all agree with the major policies and they don't dare to interfere with the banks, the Reserve Bank, ASIO, ASIS etc. because those are all controlled by higher global powers... ;) |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by longweekend58 on Sep 25th, 2014 at 7:53pm gone wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 6:46pm:
time for a new hat. your current one is tinfoil... |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by australianstakeaction on Sep 26th, 2014 at 1:52pm
Thank you all for great replies.
The Governor General does have the power to dismiss the Prime Minister whenever he has a reason to do so, also he has the power to nominate a replacement Prime Minister and pretty much anything else he wishes to do. It is all in the constitution - section 70. He needs a good reason to do so. And the reason is the massive amount of letters that he is going to receive. Without the action of individuals like us we will wait for the next election in impotent ramblings about how terrible the current government is, without actually lifting a finger and sending one simple letter. Your move. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by longweekend58 on Sep 26th, 2014 at 2:09pm australianstakeaction wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 1:52pm:
you don't understand section 70 at all. Like most of what you write here, it is fanciful drivel. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Swagman on Sep 26th, 2014 at 4:19pm australianstakeaction wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 1:52pm:
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by australianstakeaction on Sep 26th, 2014 at 4:37pm
We've approached knowledgeable people in the academia that do know about the constitution and what we propose is one of the very few legal and peaceful ways to correct mistakes of an election in Australia. In fact our constitution, by providing the Governor General, ironically, makes the change possible.
We are not here to debate the fact that the constitution provides with a change lever, this is already known. We are just letting people know, and not only on this forum, that there is a tool available to be used should they wish to use it (as opposed of sending dead-end messages around the internet or standing on the streets obstructing traffic) and we are here ready to administer and coordinate. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by DaS Energy on Sep 26th, 2014 at 5:24pm
[quote author=australianstakeact link=1411610742/15#15 date=1411713457 We've approached knowledgeable people in the academia that do know about the constitution and what we propose is one of the very few legal and peaceful ways to correct mistakes of an election in Australia. In fact our constitution, by providing the Governor General, ironically, makes the change possible.
We are not here to debate the fact that the constitution provides with a change lever, this is already known. We are just letting people know, and not only on this forum, that there is a tool available to be used should they wish to use it (as opposed of sending dead-end messages around the internet or standing on the streets obstructing traffic) and we are here ready to administer and coordinate. [/quote] Section 70: Certain powers of Governors to vest in Governor-General In respect of matters which, under this Constitution, pass to the Executive Government of the Commonwealth, all powers and functions which at the establishment of the Commonwealth are vested in the Governor of a Colony, or in the Governor of a Colony with the advice of his Executive Council, or in any authority of a Colony, shall vest in the Governor‑General, or in the Governor‑General in Council, or in the authority exercising similar powers under the Commonwealth, as the case requires. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by longweekend58 on Sep 26th, 2014 at 5:55pm australianstakeaction wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 4:37pm:
I very seriously doubt that. I am calling it a bald-faced lie. NAME YOUR SOURCES. PS the constitution doesn't even reference the Prime Minister, only Executive Council. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Team Knight Errant Grappler on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:53am |dev|null wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:20pm:
They only need to pop in here - as they do regularly - to see that.... that's one reason I am so positive and firm in my opposing views to government here. To me - they are all proven scum and in need of removal and replacement by a government that has some ideas for Australia and its people first. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Team Knight Errant Grappler on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:56am
I have an image of Peter Cosgrove arriving at Parl-e-a-ment and uttering the immortal words:- "Methinks the birds have flown!"
You should be writing a book that will open the eyes of the Australian public and educate them through the media of fiction :- The Australian Civil War (a companion volume to The Never-ending Civil War Between Government and People, Grappler University Press)... |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Team Knight Errant Grappler on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:58am australianstakeaction wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 1:52pm:
Join The Grappler Party for a new deal.... |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by DaS Energy on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:07pm Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:58am:
It is true the Governor General does have the power to call for a new election under certain circumstances, none of which have been laid out by the Grappler Party! |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by longweekend58 on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:54pm DaS Energy wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:07pm:
The governor-general operates on the advice of the prime minister and only him. His reserve powers are well codified and he cannot order a new election just because he wants to or even it a whole lot of people do. wishful thinking and nothing more. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Dame Pansi on Sep 27th, 2014 at 2:09pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:54pm:
Did Gough Whitlam ask Kerr the cur to sack him? |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by DaS Energy on Sep 27th, 2014 at 2:16pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:54pm:
Incorrect! |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 27th, 2014 at 2:48pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 5:55pm:
Tell that to Gough Whitlam |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Team Knight Errant Grappler on Sep 27th, 2014 at 3:40pm DaS Energy wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:07pm:
We're playing it close to the chest...... never let 'em see your cards.... |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Brian Ross on Sep 27th, 2014 at 3:52pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 2:09pm:
No, but Whitlam, if he'd had his wits about him would have sacked Kerr first. The GG and the PM both have the power to sack the other, under our Constitution. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by DaS Energy on Sep 27th, 2014 at 4:17pm Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 3:40pm:
Sounds like an LNP election campaign! |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by longweekend58 on Sep 27th, 2014 at 5:22pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 2:09pm:
it is the historical singular exception and is why it was called a constitutional crisis. the GG had to deal with an unprecedented situation, not a petition from loser whiners who don't like Abbott. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by longweekend58 on Sep 27th, 2014 at 5:24pm Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 3:52pm:
incorrect. the GG does not have to power to sack a govt. but anyhow, the entire thread is about the ludicrous proposition in the OP that he has 'secret knowledge' that some kind of petition can get a GG to call a new election. even in 1975, the GG didn't call a new election. Fraser did. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by Brian Ross on Sep 29th, 2014 at 1:29am longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 5:24pm:
Look up "reserve powers" of the GG. The GG can and has sacked a government using them. While legal, it was not the correct moral choice and as we now know, Kerr was unduly influenced by Barwick and Fraser, which ran counter to the word of the Constitution. Kerr would have been better off accepting Gough's advice, ordering a half-Senate election and Gough then holding a joint sitting of the House and Senate to force through the Supply bill. |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by longweekend58 on Sep 29th, 2014 at 7:04am Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 1:29am:
don't replay 40yo events. the OP states that the GG can sack an existing govt on no more than the basis of a petition. he cannot. That is the issue |
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Title: Re: Australians Take Action Post by longweekend58 on Sep 29th, 2014 at 7:10am Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 1:29am:
a PM cannot simply order a half-senate election and then hold a joint sitting. if that were possible, don't you think Abbott would do exactly that? Don't you think most PMs would do that when blocked by the senate? |
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