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Title: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by Ahovking on Sep 25th, 2014 at 8:17am
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was created in November 1988, One of the most important role of the IPCC was to determine the global climate development over the last 1000 years in order to see if the warming of the last century was “unique” and to see if today’s supposed manmade warming was a threat.
An examination of the 3 IPCC reports published reveals a remarkable scientific reversal. In the First Assessment Report of 1990, page 202 depicts the following chart: 2nd Assessment Report, 1995 And instead of showing the last 1000 years, as the section title states, the chart starts only in the 15th century, i.e. exactly at the end of the Medieval Warm Period. And there’s another oddity that stands out: The drawn mean curve does not match the depicted temperature curve. 3rd Assessment Report, 2001 (“also known as apart of the Hockey Stick charts”) 4th Assessment Report, 2007 (“also known as apart of the Hockey Stick charts”) New temperature reconstructions depict once again more or less a pronounced Medieval Warm Period. 5th Assessment Report, 2013 (“also known as apart of the Hockey Stick charts”) In a single stroke the Medieval Warm Period gets deleted altogether. The chart shows a relatively stable climate all the way up to 1900 with an overall slight cooling tendency. This then gets followed by a dramatic temperature increase. The problem is the methodology which is employed by lead author Michael Mann. The methodology produced a hockey stick (a dramatic increase in temperature) no matter what data were input. Michael Mann’s hockey stick curve of 1999 is not the only climate curve that has disappeared from the 5th Assessment Report. Also Keith Briffa’s curve from 2000 and 2001 have disappeared. The following may be the reason they have disappeared. Most reconstructions do not extend all the way to the present even though they provide enough data to do so in most cases. The reason for this is because the curve designers do not want to deal with the gaping differences between the values derived from the proxy reconstructions and the values recorded by modern instruments. So they simply truncate the proxy reconstructed values where a divergence between the two datasets begins. The discarded proxy reconstruction data are then simply replaced by the instrumental data obtained from the weather stations. But the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change isnt the only ones manipulate data. NOAA quietly revises website after it was getting caught in global warming lie, finally admitting 1936 was hotter than 2012: http://www.naturalnews.com/045808_global_warming_fraud_data_manipulation_noaa.html# and with NASA "Prior to the year 2000, NASA showed US temperatures cooling since the 1930’s, and 1934 much warmer than 1998. http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/screenhunter_627-jun-22-21-18.gif?w=640&h=453 Right after the year 2000, NASA dramatically altered US climate history, making the past much colder and the present much warmer. The image below shows how NASA cooled 1934 and warmed 1998, to make 1998 the hottest year in US history instead of 1934. This alteration turned a long term cooling trend since 1930 into a warming trend. Just about every major source of Climate Change data outlet has been caught manipulating the data. |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by progressiveslol on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:23am
These fraudsters cool the past and warm the present so they can have their IPCC reports with the % chance of xx degrees warming per century to be higher than it actually is.
IPCC as screwed and manipulated as it is, still carries weight to dopey people and these dopey people scream loudly for policy to be made from what the IPCC says. This fraud has to cease. |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by bogarde73 on Sep 26th, 2014 at 3:28pm
I'm a skeptic and contrarian by nature. I just tend not to believe what the majority does.
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by St George of the Puissant HLT on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:03am
We are way past the Medieval Warm Period in terms of temperature.
The last couple of years have been the hottest. Ice continues to melt at the poles, Greenland etc. |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by Ahovking on Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:09pm St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:03am:
The last couple of years we have seen a cooling, as indicated with non manipulated data. Also there has never been more ice at the poles |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by lee on Sep 30th, 2014 at 2:55pm
Nimbus data rescue
Recovering the past to understand the future 'In the Arctic, sea ice extent was larger in the 1960s than it is these days, on average. “It was colder, so we expected that,” Gallaher said. What the researchers didn’t expect were “enormous holes” in the sea ice, currently under investigation. “We can’t explain them yet,” Gallaher said. “And the Antarctic blew us away,” he said. In 1964, sea ice extent in the Antarctic was the largest ever recorded, according to Nimbus image analysis. Two years later, there was a record low for sea ice in the Antarctic, and in 1969 Nimbus imagery, sea ice appears to have reached its maximum extent earliest on record.' http://cires.colorado.edu/news/press/2014/nimbus.html So much of it seems to have happened before. Certainly not "unprecedented" as a lot claim. And that's only in relatively recent history. |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by Ahovking on Sep 30th, 2014 at 3:50pm lee wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 2:55pm:
I have an Paper somewhere outlining how Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences also manipulating data like the NOAA has done in my OP post. |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Sep 30th, 2014 at 11:03pm
- how does a capitalist come up with such graphs unless he is smoking crack?
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Sep 30th, 2014 at 11:04pm
<smirk ::)>
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by Ahovking on Oct 1st, 2014 at 10:07am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 11:03pm:
Another Sheep, blindly following the masses. Just about every major source of Climate Change data outlet has been caught manipulating the data. You cant avoid the facts. |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by lee on Oct 1st, 2014 at 11:58am Pantheon wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 3:50pm:
From the same paper above - 'When NASA launched Nimbus-1 50 years ago, the agency’s key goals were to test instruments that could capture images of clouds and other meteorological features, Gallaher said. The Nimbus satellites dished up such excellent observations, NASA eventually handed over key technologies to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), for use in weather forecasting, including hurricane forecasts. But even with such success, data tapes and film that recorded Nimbus observations slipped through the cracks.' So CIRES, NOOA, NSIDC ad NASA all intricately intertwined. BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 11:03pm:
I've highlighted the last piece of the quote just for you, seeing as you seem to like crack. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by Ahovking on Oct 1st, 2014 at 2:21pm lee wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 11:58am:
how does this change the fact that the data was manipulated |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by The Outrage Bus on Oct 1st, 2014 at 2:25pm
Good to see science carrying on and readjusting when better models are discovered and applied (also known as manipulating the data)
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Oct 1st, 2014 at 3:48pm Pantheon wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 10:07am:
You can't avoid the fact capitalism has no money system to play with- making you all socialists! ;) ;) You got nothing buddy but a crack pipe and mates that just shake their heads at your endless crap as long as you keep packing !! ::) |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Oct 1st, 2014 at 3:49pm
** chaching :D :D
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by gizmo_2655 on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 3:02pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 2:25pm:
But only when they adjust the models to conform with the results of the original models, right? |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:29pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 3:02pm:
gizmo doesn't know what measurement is ;) ;) <-->>>>> the industrial revolution happened a long time ago now :D :D :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by lee on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am
Measurement can lead to data. But when data is homogenised it is no longer data; it is information; which may or may not have any accuracy.
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 11:58pm lee wrote on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am:
lol, drawing a distinction between data and information where information actually means misinformation... oh- the ol' black is actually white argument: PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTINUE THE SERMON! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) (IT IS FRiiIIIDAY NIGHT AFTERALL SO MAY ASWELL GET ON THE CRACK AND GET ALL INVERTED AND FREAK THE NEIGHBOURS OUT AGAIN :o :o :-? :P) |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by gizmo_2655 on Oct 5th, 2014 at 9:09pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 11:58pm:
You do realise that all your posturing and idiot comments show you to be a drug addled fool, don't you??? |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Oct 6th, 2014 at 12:19am gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 5th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
.. which is obviously why I tell everyone crack is the most boring drug in the world 8-) 8-) ::) It's even more boring than counting coin: imagine combining those two events :o :o :o :o :o :'( |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by Ahovking on Oct 12th, 2014 at 7:03pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 3:48pm:
Um okay what? you didn't make sense..You can't avoid the fact capitalism has no money system to play with- making you all socialists! Wanna add some grammar or something? |
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Title: Re: Why i don't believe in climate change. Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Oct 12th, 2014 at 9:27pm Pantheon wrote on Oct 12th, 2014 at 7:03pm:
:) :) add some what now?? |
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