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Here's What We Learnt From The 60 Minutes Interview With 'Slippergate' Whistleblower James Ashby ...Ashby claims Christopher Pyne, then in opposition and now education minister, promised to organise a lawyer and job in state politics for him after he raised the harassment claims... businessinsider.com.au/heres-what-we-learnt-from-the-60-minutes-interview-with-slippergate-whistleblower-james-ashby-2014-9

there was nothing new.

I feel for the young man I really do...the left will do its best to get mileage out of it.. but really what was NEW?..

his mum and dad knew he was being used or taken for a ride...$160.000 a year with no experience...

how gullible can you get?

ps.. I am glad you learnt something.. :)

We knew Pyne was corrupt Cods, but we did not know the seriousness of it until this whistleblower has come forward:


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...Federal Education Minister Christopher Pyne allegedly offered to help find former speaker's aide James Ashby a lawyer and a job if he made a claim of sexual harassment against speaker of the House of Representatives Peter Slipper... ...Journalist Liz Hayes: "You'd been, according to you, assured by Christopher Pyne that you would have a job and you would have a solicitor who would be paid for." James Ashby: "That's right … smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/christopher-pyne-allegedly-offered-to-help-find-james-ashby-a-lawyer-and-a-job-20140907-10dor0.html

Nothing up on the australian newspaper website on this ... looks like they are in deep denial.

As are some hard right posters !

Pyne is an ugly little man who used a fool to help bring down the government. Ashby deserves what he got and would have known exactly what Pyne and Brough wanted from him.

I doubt anyone will believe Pyne's denial, but then what he did isn't a hanging offence, but just dirty tactics. We know that the Coalition will stop at nothing to get what they want even if it means destroying people in the process.

mantra wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:10am:

Pyne is an ugly little man who used a fool to help bring down the government. Ashby deserves what he got and would have known exactly what Pyne and Brough wanted from him. I doubt anyone will believe Pyne's denial, but then what he did isn't a hanging offence, but just dirty tactics. We know that the Coalition will stop at nothing to get what they want even if it means destroying people in the process.

Gillard's sacking of Harry Jenkins as Speaker and installing of Slipper to shore up her shaky numbers wasn't a "dirty tactic"?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:12am:

Gillard's sacking of Harry Jenkins as Speaker and installing of Slipper to shore up her shaky numbers wasn't a "dirty tactic"?

Any government would have done the same under the circumstances. The tactics would have seemed dirty to the opposition at the time, but then they resorted to even dirtier tactics to get rid of Slipper. They destroyed him.

Not defending Pyne but what's the evidence?

The complainant made (apparently) timely notes of a meeting with Pyne. Pyne, no doubt, made none.

Senior politicians don't get to where they are and stay there by making questionable promises that can be proved by a disgruntled complainant.

So, if you believe Ashby its because you want to believe him, not because the evidence supports his claim.

Well wasn't this a nothing story.

60 minutes more like ACA

mantra wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:10am:

We know that the Coalition will stop at nothing to get what they want even if it means destroying people in the process.

All governments and their components (within the administrative and executive) go to great lengths to achieve their aims while minimizing political risk and legal liability.

What you could say is that 60 Minutes  stopped at nothing to get what they want even if it meant destroying naive and vulnerable people in the process.

Was Ashby paid for the story?

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 3:53am:

We knew Pyne was corrupt Cods

You do realise that making that allegation is defamatory if untrue? The onus is yours to prove your allegation.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:28am:

mantra wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 6:10am: We know that the Coalition will stop at nothing to get what they want even if it means destroying people in the process. All governments and their components (within the administrative and executive) go to great lengths to achieve their aims while minimizing political risk and legal liability. What you could say is that 60 Minutes  stopped at nothing to get what they want even if it meant destroying naive and vulnerable people in the process. Was Ashby paid for the story?

He would have been paid by 60 minutes. Ashby obviously loves the attention. If he really was as suicidal as he claims - he wouldn't be trying to keep the story alive.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:33am:

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 3:53am: We knew Pyne was corrupt Cods You do realise that making that allegation is defamatory if untrue? The onus is yours to prove your allegation.

In that case Pynie could always sue at huge cost and recover nothing.... but would he really want the publicity?

Time for a total review of 'defamation' etc "laws".

cods wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:08am:

there was nothing new. I feel for the young man I really do...the left will do its best to get mileage out of it.. but really what was NEW?.. his mum and dad knew he was being used or taken for a ride...$160.000 a year with no experience... how gullible can you get?

nothing new? weren't you one of the ones claiming it wasn't a case of the libs trying to bring down Gillard?

mantra wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:50am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:28am: mantra wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 6:10am: We know that the Coalition will stop at nothing to get what they want even if it means destroying people in the process. All governments and their components (within the administrative and executive) go to great lengths to achieve their aims while minimizing political risk and legal liability. What you could say is that 60 Minutes  stopped at nothing to get what they want even if it meant destroying naive and vulnerable people in the process. Was Ashby paid for the story? He would have been paid by 60 minutes. Ashby obviously loves the attention. If he really was as suicidal as he claims - he wouldn't be trying to keep the story alive.

I hope he was paid... At least that way 60 Minutes can't be accused of total cynical exploitation... Do you think their lawyers didn't know they had nothing?

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:33am: Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 3:53am: We knew Pyne was corrupt Cods You do realise that making that allegation is defamatory if untrue? The onus is yours to prove your allegation. In that case Pynie could always sue at huge cost and recover nothing.... but would he really want the publicity? Time for a total review of 'defamation' etc "laws".

Unlikely he would sue... But it demonstrates that its not just politicians who could be accused of not playing a straight game...

Some 'Ordinary' citizens believe they can make wild, emotional allegations while holding politicians to standards they couldn't and wouldn't meet themselves... That's not to say we shouldn't hold politicians to a higher standard... But we should at least try to measure ourselves by the same standards.

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:58am:

cods wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 1:08am: there was nothing new. I feel for the young man I really do...the left will do its best to get mileage out of it.. but really what was NEW?.. his mum and dad knew he was being used or taken for a ride...$160.000 a year with no experience... how gullible can you get? nothing new? weren't you one of the ones claiming it wasn't a case of the libs trying to bring down Gillard?

Getting mileage out of it?  Like the righties getting mileage out of the deaths of four young men in the Insulation scheme?   

The moral of he story

DON'T TRUST THE F.CKING LIBS



even Ashby, the man who put himself and his future on the line to help them win government, was lied to and then abandoned

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 8:10am:

The moral of he story DON'T TRUST THE F.CKING LIBS even Ashby, the man who put himself and his future on the line to help them win government, was lied to and then abandoned

AMEN to that!!!!!   You would have thought he would have nutted it out following Godwin Grech's treatment by Turnbull, Hockey and Abetz

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 8:10am:

The moral of he story DON'T TRUST THE F.CKING LIBS even Ashby, the man who put himself and his future on the line to help them win government, was lied to and then abandoned

I think the take home message is...

Don't use amateur tactics to beat professionals at their own game... The reason the David and Goliath story is so enduring is because its exceptional.

Ashby thought he could take on the political and legal forces of a major political party with a notebook and some lurid stories.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 8:14am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 8:10am: The moral of he story DON'T TRUST THE F.CKING LIBS even Ashby, the man who put himself and his future on the line to help them win government, was lied to and then abandoned I think the take home message is... Don't use amateur tactics to beat professionals at their own game... The reason the David and Goliath story is so enduring is because its exceptional. Ashby thought he could take on the political and legal forces of a major political party with a notebook and some lurid stories.

but Ashby also thought he had his own major political party and by extension Newscorp onside to protect him

instead they threw him out as burley to sharks

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 8:10am:

The moral of he story DON'T TRUST THE F.CKING LIBS even Ashby, the man who put himself and his future on the line to help them win government, was lied to and then abandoned

Ashby admitted he had been warned, but he is such a greedy opportunist that when the big boys paid him a little attention, he wanted to believe what they said and please them. He loved the intrigue obviously.

Actually out of the whole scenario - I feel sorry for Slipper. He'd got too comfortable in his job, but he didn't deserve his punishment. Abbott and his mates have done worse when it comes to rorting the taxpayer. Same goes for a few Labor MP's.

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 8:17am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 8:14am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 8:10am: The moral of he story DON'T TRUST THE F.CKING LIBS even Ashby, the man who put himself and his future on the line to help them win government, was lied to and then abandoned I think the take home message is... Don't use amateur tactics to beat professionals at their own game... The reason the David and Goliath story is so enduring is because its exceptional. Ashby thought he could take on the political and legal forces of a major political party with a notebook and some lurid stories. but Ashby also thought he had his own major political party and by extension Newscorp onside to protect him instead they threw him out as burley to sharks

And, of course he had a contract to prove he had his own major political party and by extension Newscorp onside to protect him?

No? .... Thought thought he thought a thought.

In terms of his experience, his political and legal acumen, he was burley from the get go.

And what makes some believe that his intentions were/are honest and honourable?

Another thing to consider is this... If Ashby was aware Pyne had made promises he shouldn't have (because making them would have been corrupt).. What did he do about it?

Did he report it immediately or did he wait, to see if he could benefit from this 'corruption'?

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:08am:

Well wasn't this a nothing story. 60 minutes more like ACA

It was 60 Minutes: of course it was a nothing story.

I can't believe people still watch that crap.

Vic wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 8:08am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:58am: cods wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 1:08am: there was nothing new. I feel for the young man I really do...the left will do its best to get mileage out of it.. but really what was NEW?.. his mum and dad knew he was being used or taken for a ride...$160.000 a year with no experience... how gullible can you get? nothing new? weren't you one of the ones claiming it wasn't a case of the libs trying to bring down Gillard? Getting mileage out of it?  Like the righties getting mileage out of the deaths of four young men in the Insulation scheme?

one HUGE difference there.... sorry to bring it up..

4 young men lost their lives due to utter incompetence....

did Pyne lie???.. its SAhbys word against his..

funny how you believe everything ashby says about Pyne and Brough yet whatever he says about slipper is a lie....slipper was the speaker remember???...LOL>.he had the full backing of the PM..

the best part of that program was the look on Gillards face when slipper resigned... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:26am:

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:08am: Well wasn't this a nothing story. 60 minutes more like ACA It was 60 Minutes: of course it was a nothing story. I can't believe people still watch that crap.

he should have gone on Q&A

cods wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:32am:

Vic wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 8:08am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:58am: cods wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 1:08am: there was nothing new. I feel for the young man I really do...the left will do its best to get mileage out of it.. but really what was NEW?.. his mum and dad knew he was being used or taken for a ride...$160.000 a year with no experience... how gullible can you get? nothing new? weren't you one of the ones claiming it wasn't a case of the libs trying to bring down Gillard? Getting mileage out of it?  Like the righties getting mileage out of the deaths of four young men in the Insulation scheme?    one HUGE difference there.... sorry to bring it up.. 4 young men lost their lives due to utter incompetence.... True - but that doesn't stop many of the right on here using those deaths to gain political mileage.(this is the term you used)  So no HUGE difference at all -  people still use anything - including death - for their own advantage did Pyne lie???.. its SAhbys word against his.. Yes it isfunny how you believe everything ashby says about Pyne and Brough yet whatever he says about slipper is a lie....slipper was the speaker remember???...LOL>.he had the full backing of the PM.. Really?  Where have i stated I believe everything Ashby says - and whatever he says about Slipper is a lie? the best part of that program was the look on Gillards face when slipper resigned... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I didn't watch it - I find it a sleazy program at the best of times

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 8:29am:

Another thing to consider is this... If Ashby was aware Pyne had made promises he shouldn't have (because making them would have been corrupt).. What did he do about it? Did he report it immediately or did he wait, to see if he could benefit from this 'corruption'?

Ashby said in court there were no such promises made.....sounds like they all deserve each other.

This whole thing has been a massive waste of time and effort. As is the Pink Batts inquest and probably the Union "slush fund" case.

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Former parliamentary staffer James Ashby has dropped legal action against former speaker Peter Slipper.

Ashby drop the court case against Slipper because Ashby says that Slipper is "mentally unwell"


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In his statement, Mr Ashby also cited reports that Mr Slipper has been "mentally unwell" as a further consideration in his decision. "Under such circumstances, I do not wish to continue lengthy proceedings that could potentially cause him great harm," Mr Ashby said.

It would be nice to know who put the pressure on Ashby to drop the court case.

If you are taking someone to court the last thing you worry about is their mentally health.

I don't think it would be the lawyers that told Ashby to drop the case as they would like a verdict in their favour to get the cost back that they already spent on the first court case and the appeal. So who else would like the court case to be drop and why?

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:08am:

Well wasn't this a nothing story. 60 minutes more like ACA

Yes if you consider that showing that the Liberals are corrupt and dishonest isn't relevant or that it was so obvious that no confirmation is required then it is a nothing story.

They way it always looked was that Pyne, Brought and up to the top of the Lieberal food chain were all involved, Now there is confirmation from inside that this was in fact what had happened. 

Dnarever wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:01am:

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:08am: Well wasn't this a nothing story. 60 minutes more like ACA Yes if you consider that showing that the Liberals are corrupt and dishonest isn't relevant or that it was so obvious that no confirmation is required then it is a nothing story.

It's so obvious, that no confirmation was required.

I suspect 60 Minutes will be reporting on the dampness of water next.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 8:23am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 8:17am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 8:14am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 8:10am: The moral of he story DON'T TRUST THE F.CKING LIBS even Ashby, the man who put himself and his future on the line to help them win government, was lied to and then abandoned I think the take home message is... Don't use amateur tactics to beat professionals at their own game... The reason the David and Goliath story is so enduring is because its exceptional. Ashby thought he could take on the political and legal forces of a major political party with a notebook and some lurid stories. but Ashby also thought he had his own major political party and by extension Newscorp onside to protect him instead they threw him out as burley to sharks And, of course he had a contract to prove he had his own major political party and by extension Newscorp onside to protect him? No? .... Thought thought he thought a thought. In terms of his experience, his political and legal acumen, he was burley from the get go. And what makes some believe that his intentions were/are honest and honourable?

you want a contract to undermine and remove a democratically elected govt. by underhanded means? This is the real world Í am talking about, these back room deals don't involve contracts ...

I've not doubt anybodies intentions were less than honourable, nevertheless, they made him a promise and in typical lib fashion, broke the promise

cods wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:32am:

Vic wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 8:08am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:58am: cods wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 1:08am: there was nothing new. I feel for the young man I really do...the left will do its best to get mileage out of it.. but really what was NEW?.. his mum and dad knew he was being used or taken for a ride...$160.000 a year with no experience... how gullible can you get? nothing new? weren't you one of the ones claiming it wasn't a case of the libs trying to bring down Gillard? Getting mileage out of it?  Like the righties getting mileage out of the deaths of four young men in the Insulation scheme?    one HUGE difference there.... sorry to bring it up.. 4 young men lost their lives due to utter incompetence.... did Pyne lie???.. its SAhbys word against his.. funny how you believe everything ashby says about Pyne and Brough yet whatever he says about slipper is a lie....slipper was the speaker remember???...LOL>.he had the full backing of the PM.. the best part of that program was the look on Gillards face when slipper resigned... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

If what Ashby says is true, the libs have ruined his life ... that doesn't matter to you though does it?

strange at the end of the show Ashby was all smiles and said he was leading the life he wants....he looked very happy and I am glad for him

I wouldnt take too much notice of anything Ashby says, he has a bit of form as a dodgy.

http://www.news.com.au/national/peter-slipper-accuser-james-ashby-convicted-over-offensive-phone-calls-to-dj/story-e6frfkvr-1226335352067

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

I wouldnt take too much notice of anything Ashby says, he has a bit of form as a dodgy. http://www.news.com.au/national/peter-slipper-accuser-james-ashby-convicted-over-offensive-phone-calls-to-dj/story-e6frfkvr-1226335352067

slipper has a bit of form as well.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/peter-slipper-found-guilty-of-dishonestly-using-taxi-vouchers/story-fn59niix-1227004701129

The problem for the Liberal party is they relied so heavily on James Ashby's allegations to condemn Peter Slipper.....Now they must condemn him as a liar to protect their own involvement.....Just watch them try to squirm there way out of this mess!!!

::) ::) ::)

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

you want a contract to undermine and remove a democratically elected govt. by underhanded means? This is the real world Í am talking about, these back room deals don't involve contracts ...

And they're called 'backroom deals' because...?


John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

I've not doubt anybodies intentions were less than honourable, nevertheless, they made him a promise and in typical lib fashion, broke the promise

And you know they made a deal because...?

How has Pyne acted corruptly???

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 11:20am:

How has Pyne acted corruptly???

Offering somebody a job in return for being a witness against political opponents is not corruption?

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 11:20am: How has Pyne acted corruptly??? Offering somebody a job in return for being a witness against political opponents is not corruption?

He didn't. If what Ashby said is true, he said his job would be secure if he went ahead with the complaint. Huge difference.

Pyne slipped up (pardon the pun) in his press conference when he stated "If Julia Gillard had not sacked Harry Jenkins and made Peter Slipper speaker these allegations would never have surfaced".....So Pyne has confirmed it was about getting Slipper and not the sexual harassment claims!!!

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NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 11:12am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 10:26am: you want a contract to undermine and remove a democratically elected govt. by underhanded means? This is the real world Í am talking about, these back room deals don't involve contracts ... And they're called 'backroom deals' because...? you asked for the contract, not me John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 10:26am: I've not doubt anybodies intentions were less than honourable, nevertheless, they made him a promise and in typical lib fashion, broke the promise And you know they made a deal because...? I don't know anything, I'm merely commenting on the allegations

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

I wouldnt take too much notice of anything Ashby says, he has a bit of form as a dodgy. http://www.news.com.au/national/peter-slipper-accuser-james-ashby-convicted-over-offensive-phone-calls-to-dj/story-e6frfkvr-1226335352067

Yep maybe there were no good guys involved at all.

Ashby, Slipper, Brough, Pyne, Abbott etc.

Can't see this one going anywhere. They very rarely do.

I was listening to the god botherer show on ABC last night and someone was saying that in regard to corruption with the Labor party, it's usually about personal gain, but corruption within the Liberal party is usually about them acting like the rules and laws don't apply to them - but for the advancement of their political cause - not personal gain.

Seems to be kind of true.

cods wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:08am:

there was nothing new. I feel for the young man I really do...the left will do its best to get mileage out of it.. but really what was NEW?.. his mum and dad knew he was being used or taken for a ride...$160.000 a year with no experience... how gullible can you get?

That's right, dear. James Ashby was being taken for a ride all the way to a safe seat in state government.

The ALP reward trusted union officials with such prizes. The Libs, it seems, reward those who do its dirty work. Who knows? Maybe Pyne got his seat the same way. Maybe even Mr Abbott himself.

It does make you wonder what the lovechild of John Howard and Bronwyn Bishop had on John Howard.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:08am:

Well wasn't this a nothing story. 60 minutes more like ACA

That's right, Progressives. A senior Lib bribing a staffer to "out" the Speaker of the House in return for Liberal preselection is hardly news.

Happens all the time.

Well, these kind of things does happen in politics, it is a ruthless world.   The man was promised free legal representation and a job, and at  the end he had none, and everyone assumed that he was acting under direction anyway.  So his reputation is ruined, no other employers would want to touch him within a mile.  Of course, he is going to come back and bite as he can.  But, what he does only served to confuse the situation, with little benefit to him, and even less effect on current sitting member of the government as these 'allegations' can never be proven. 

Re John S


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It would be nice to know who put the pressure on Ashby to drop the court case. If you are taking someone to court the last thing you worry about is their mentally health. I don't think it would be the lawyers that told Ashby to drop the case as they would like a verdict in their favour to get the cost back that they already spent on the first court case and the appeal. So who else would like the court case to be drop and why?

I agree that he dropped the court case, and its certainly not out of worry about Slipper's mental health, since he did not worry about it when he first lodge the case. 

But, I do believe, that its his lawyers - said to be acting on behalf of some individual / party advised him to drop the case probably because they would not get paid if they continue on with it. 

Cwissy reckons Ashby must have misunderstood him. ;D  That's as much of an admission as we'll ever get from the poodle.

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 11:12am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 10:26am: you want a contract to undermine and remove a democratically elected govt. by underhanded means? This is the real world Í am talking about, these back room deals don't involve contracts ... And they're called 'backroom deals' because...? you asked for the contract, not me John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 10:26am: I've not doubt anybodies intentions were less than honourable, nevertheless, they made him a promise and in typical lib fashion, broke the promise And you know they made a deal because...? I don't know anything, I'm merely commenting on the allegations

I guess Ashby needs to ask himself, if he wants to play with the big boys at the high table, does he really have a few big chips to bring into the game?

After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China.

Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it.

This has legs.

Also, in TURC, emails between Peta & a developer had a suppression order lifted—ICAC is now in Abbott’s office!

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China. Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it. This has legs. Also, in TURC, emails between Peta & a developer had a suppression order lifted—ICAC is now in Abbott’s office!

No, it really doesn't - and neither do you.

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

Pyne slipped up (pardon the pun) in his press conference when he stated "If Julia Gillard had not sacked Harry Jenkins and made Peter Slipper speaker these allegations would never have surfaced".....So Pyne has confirmed it was about getting Slipper and not the sexual harassment claims!!! [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

no slipper would never have offered ashby a $160.000 job just so he could have his hot little feller to hand so to speak...

guess who promoted slipper to the second best paid job in the land..guess who... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:08am: Well wasn't this a nothing story. 60 minutes more like ACA That's right, Progressives. A senior Lib bribing a staffer to "out" the Speaker of the House in return for Liberal preselection is hardly news. Happens all the time.

Those two reason you give are precisely why it should always be news.....

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 8:26am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 9:21pm: After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China. Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it. This has legs. Also, in TURC, emails between Peta & a developer had a suppression order lifted—ICAC is now in Abbott’s office! No, it really doesn't - and neither do you.

Yes - we've got on hell of a lot to learn from the education systems in Laos and China...

"Numbah One children strong courage patriots now repeat in democratic unison heavenly learning for today as way forward in comradely future of five year learning plan!  Tomorrow self criticism and spiritual cleansing and purification of thought and acceptance ways of decadent West and learning capital roading in socialist brotherhood!"

cods wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 12:09pm: Pyne slipped up (pardon the pun) in his press conference when he stated "If Julia Gillard had not sacked Harry Jenkins and made Peter Slipper speaker these allegations would never have surfaced".....So Pyne has confirmed it was about getting Slipper and not the sexual harassment claims!!! [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] no slipper would never have offered ashby a $160.000 job just so he could have his hot little feller to hand so to speak... guess who promoted slipper to the second best paid job in the land..guess who... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Guess who knew all about and covered up for Slippers miss adventures for well over a decade previously and just kept on pre selecting him for office as a liberal minister with their full support - time after time after time ?

The Libs had made Slipper :

Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister (John Howard) and government whip.

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China. Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it.

Well, well... Did Ashby secretly record the conversation... Or does Pyne suspect he may have?

Not that Ashby could use it legally... But, if he has, it would sure put the shivers up the recorded party.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:41am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 9:21pm: After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China. Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it. Well, well... Did Ashby secretly record the conversation... Or does Pyne suspect he may have? Not that Ashby could use it legally... But, if he has, it would sure put the shivers up the recorded party.

legality is irrelevant ... if Ashby had a recording Pyne would be finished in politics. The only one to still vote for him would be Cods, longy and armpit

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 9:41am: St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 9:21pm: After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China. Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it. Well, well... Did Ashby secretly record the conversation... Or does Pyne suspect he may have? Not that Ashby could use it legally... But, if he has, it would sure put the shivers up the recorded party. legality is irrelevant ... if Ashby had a recording Pyne would be finished in politics. The only one to still vote for him would be Cods, longy and armpit

True, but only if Ashby releases it (if it even exists) and is prepared to risk prosecution.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 10:58am:

True, but only if Ashby releases it (if it even exists) and is prepared to risk prosecution.

If the Coalition even suspected Ashby had a tape, he would probably have met with a fatal accident by now.

mantra wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 11:10am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 10:58am: True, but only if Ashby releases it (if it even exists) and is prepared to risk prosecution. If the Coalition even suspected Ashby had a tape, he would probably have met with a fatal accident by now.

Are you suggesting the Coalition is the Mafia and would commit an act of murder?