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Title: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by jmjcare on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:22pm Quote:
Link: theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/27/tony-abbott-leaves-door-open-for-australian-role-in-us-led-iraq-strikes |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by jmjcare on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:26pm
The ISIS Threat: Western Leaders Fear-Monger to Mobilize Support for Air-Strikes on Syria
One of the roles of leading politicians and top officials of the state is to enlist public support for policies which serve the goals of the upper stratum of the population from whose ranks they sometimes come and whose interests they almost invariably promote. When these policies are at odds with the interests of the majority, as they often are, the mobilization of public consent is possible only through deception. The deception is carried out through prevarication, equivocation, and fear-mongering, crystallized into misleading narratives which the mass media can be reliably counted on to amplify. So it is that Western officials have ramped up a campaign of deception to provide a pretext for military intervention in Syria to combat ISIS but which may very well serve as a Trojan horse to escalate the war on the Syrian government. globalresearch.ca/the-isis-threat-western-leaders-fear-monger-to-mobilize-support-for-air-strikes-on-syria/5397860 |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by AiA in Atlanta on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:28pm
Looks like the US will be forced to deal with sketchy leaders in that region to deal with ISIS and AUS will be dragged along ...
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Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by jmjcare on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:29pm Quote:
theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/27/no-10-rejects-uk-willing-join-us-air-campaign-isis |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by JaSin on Aug 28th, 2014 at 8:39am
Gutless high tech TERMINATORS
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Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by BigOl64 on Aug 28th, 2014 at 8:49am Jasin wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 8:39am:
You aren't quite smart enough to troll this board are you? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Back to the kiddies table with you |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by chicken_lipsforme on Aug 28th, 2014 at 6:06pm Jasin wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 8:39am:
Not making much sense there dude. The days of the shield wall are gone. |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by freediver on Aug 28th, 2014 at 7:10pm
Perhaps he thinks we must head over there with a knife, a seven year old boy, and a camera.
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Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 28th, 2014 at 7:12pm
Tony will lead our troops into battle.
He's a leader not a follower. |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by jmjcare on Aug 28th, 2014 at 9:08pm Quote:
Link: theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/australia-ready-to-join-us-in-fight-against-islamic-state-in-iraq/story-e6frg8yo-1227039529826?nk=914c25397e0f2bb5cf40d63ed9863697 I think they are just testing to see if the people will protest against being involved once again into another war created by the US. The 'friends and allies' excuse is being overused. If your 'friends and allies' ask you to jump in the lake should you or should you have enough common sense to say enough is enough. Syria is what the Zionists are after so why now when they have been supporting & arming ISIS all along while they were murdering Syrians, it's the same 'moderates' they've been supporting just change the name and try to fool the masses. |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by jmjcare on Aug 28th, 2014 at 9:29pm Quote:
Link: presstv.com/detail/2014/08/16/375477/israel-and-isil-allies-syrian-envoy/ |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by jmjcare on Aug 28th, 2014 at 9:44pm Quote:
Link: socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/french-report-isilisis-leader-al-baghdadi-jewish-mossad-agent/ |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by jmjcare on Aug 29th, 2014 at 1:10pm
[quote]Myth of ‘Limited’ US Airstrikes in Syria
Link: en.ria.ru/analysis/20140826/192371043/Myth-of-Limited-US-Airstrikes-in-Syria.html 21:29 26/08/2014 The US is once again on the warpath against Syria after the beheading of US citizen James Foley was released on the internet a week ago. The US is once again on the warpath against Syria after the beheading of US citizen James Foley was released on the internet a week ago. His execution is being used to justify a mixed anti-terror and ‘humanitarian’ intervention in northeastern Syria. An information offensive has now been launched to peddle the myth of ‘limited’ strikes against Islamic State (IS) targets, but in all actuality, such a campaign is impossible to contain within the strict limits US authorities are promising. Obama has already authorized surveillance flights over Syrian territory, showing that an attack appears to be imminent. A quick exercise in scenario forecasting illustrates how any US intervention in Syria will most certainly evolve from a ‘limited anti-terror operation’ to a massive military offensive, complete with proxy occupations and a full-scale outbreak of chaos throughout the entire country. Symbolism and Substance Should the US make the decision to strike Syria, it will be carrying with it both symbolism and substance. The action would be symbolic due to it being in complete contravention of Syria’s sovereignty, a position which Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem reaffirmed earlier this week. Whether by drone or by jet, the US would be showing that it can and will violate Syrian sovereignty as it sees fit. This is enabled by the fact that IS’ turf is mostly removed from any of the Syrian Arab Army’s (SAA) air defense units, thereby allowing the US to attack with military impunity. Secondly, the US’ strikes would surely carry with them prime substance, as the rhetoric being expressed by Washington guarantees nothing short of it. They would not be the token gestures evidenced in northern Iraq, but rather a full-fledged operation designed to achieve concrete military objectives. On the public front, this would be to decimate Islamic State and its leadership, but in fact, such an objective cannot be achieved by air strikes alone, especially in populated urban areas like Raqqa. The Stepping Stone This brings the US to the next probable stage of its military campaign – ground forces. It is extremely unlikely that the US will use its own conventional forces in the field, as its special forces are cheaper, more effective, and less of a political and physical liability. Another option, of course, is for the heavily armed and highly trained Kurdish Peshmerga to ‘chase’ IS into Syria from Iraq and carry out ground operations on behalf of the US. The precedent of joint military cooperation has already been set previously when both sides partook in a coordinated offensive against IS' occupation of the Mosul Dam, with the US doing the bombing and the Kurds being the cannon fodder. The Iraqi Peshmerga’s military expansion into Syria would also achieve the dual purpose of expanding the fledging (and de-facto recognized) Kurdish state, another major American strategic objective in the region. Filling the Void With all the hubbub and speculation about an American strike, few have actually put any public thought into what comes next. For example, IS could either be decimated or strategically driven like cattle away from the combat zone and closer to Damascus,(in the same fashion as they have been corralled into going from northern Iraq back into Syria), taking all of their heavy armaments with them along the way. No matter what happens, though, it remains indisputable that there will be a security void in their previously occupied territories, opening up the question of which entity should fill it. It can be taken for granted that the US will never allow the SAA to liberate the territory after Washington’s tax-dollar funded bombs paved the way, since that would completely reverse the billions in dollars of funding and support that the US, EU, Turkey, and Gulf Kingdoms have placed in the anti-establishment forces fighting the Syrian government over the past three years. Thus, the US’ campaign will of course not be one of liberation, but rather of trading one occupier for another, in this case, the Kurds, a rejuvenated ‘Free Syrian Army (FSA), the Turks (with or without being an official NATO mission), or a combination thereof, with the public reasoning being that the failure to fill the resultant security void could create a breeding ground for an IS 2.0. ‘Finishing the Job’ After the removal of IS from their bastions in northeast Syria (whether by destruction or driving them towards Damascus) and their replacement with Kurdish/FSA/Turkish forces, the US and its ‘coalition of the willing’ will be pressured to ‘finish the job’ one way or another. In the first scenario branch, if IS is somehow destroyed and no longer a threat, then the US may want to seize the strategic initiative and make a drive towards Damascus to finally overthrow the government. After all, they would already be on the offensive and actively engaged in the war zone as it is, and Damascus is definitely within striking range of US aircraft or drones already bombing Syria. The new occupying forces of northern Syria could then carry their offensive south, break the security crescent linking Damascus with the coast, and go in for the paralyzing kill. |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by jmjcare on Aug 29th, 2014 at 1:11pm
The second scenario branch is very similar, but instead of pursuing naked regime change, it strategically pushes IS towards Damascus by using airstrikes in the same manner as a shepherd uses a staff to herd sheep. This accomplishes two important goals; first, it pushes the world’s most deadly and militarily efficient non-state actor all the way through the country and towards the capital, sowing destruction in its wake; and secondly, it provides the US and its proxy allies with the justification for continuing their campaign all the way to the capital and de-facto carrying out regime change under an anti-terror guise.
Without a doubt, the regime change objective can be sped up or publicly ‘justified’ if Syria defends its airspace and fires on American jets or drones. If the beheading of a single citizen by a rogue terrorist group can be a casus belli against an entire state per the US’ reasoning, then it goes without saying how it would respond to missiles being launched against its military vehicles, especially those engaged in an ‘anti-terrorist’ mission. More than likely, Syria will then be painted as a terrorist-supporting state (there is already false information in the Western media that Syria cooperates with IS) and the entire government will then be officially targeted for elimination. Concluding Thoughts After having accomplished its soft coup in Iraq against Maliki, the US now feels emboldened enough to aggressively press forward with its long-held regime change dreams against Syria, feverishly seeking to exploit any opportunity to justifiably do so. This barbarically includes using a dead man’s decapitated head as a rallying cry in an effort to strike at the primordial emotions of every human being and manipulate them into supporting a ‘vengeful’ war. To appease the domestic and international audience, the US government is only talking about ‘limited’ airstrikes against IS targets in Syria, but when placed under a simple analysis, these are demonstrated to be anything but. Not only will they be used to justify regime change via various arguments, but they will also result in the replacement of one occupier of Syrian territory with another, which in turn can eventually make the de-facto partitioning of the country de-jure. This means that the Syrian Crisis is precipitously teetering on the brink of becoming a full-scale international war, one which places the very existence of secular Syria and its resistance identity into jeopardy. |
Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 29th, 2014 at 1:31pm
SO jmjcare...Do you really think that a Russian news agency will give a balanced and unbiased opinion on Russia's interactions with the Ukraine???
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Title: Re: Australian PM leaves door open for role in US-led Post by jmjcare on Aug 30th, 2014 at 1:47am gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 1:31pm:
So gizmo_2655 does that mean you think mass media gives a balanced and unbiased opinion on what is going on in the world???? :-/ To get a balanced opinion one has to read both sides then one can have a better understanding of what is going on in this world. Have a good day. :) |
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