this will be quite common.


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A Muslim relief organization accused by federal auditors of sending almost $15-million to the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas has been raided by police, who seized an “extensive amount” of evidence, the RCMP said Tuesday. Integrated National Security Enforcement Teams searched the head office of the International Relief Fund for the Afflicted and Needy Canada in Mississauga, Ont., as well as a private residence in Montreal. “We are determined to stop Canadian funds from getting in the hands of terrorist groups,” said RCMP Assistant Commissioner James Malizia. “We continue to work diligently with our partners to investigate and disrupt organizations from misusing charitable donations to find terrorist activity.” A non-profit group that worked mostly in Muslim countries, IRFAN-Canada lost its charity status in 2011 after Canada Revenue Agency auditors called it an “integral part” of an international fundraising effort that supported Hamas. Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney said Tuesday that IRFAN-Canada had “for many years” funded Hamas. “The well intentioned and charitable Canadians who sought to support humanitarian relief through this organization deserve better.” The minister made the comments as he announced the relief group had been placed on Canada’s list of proscribed terrorist entities. The designation makes it a crime to knowingly have any dealings with IRFAN-Canada’s property or finances.........

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/04/29/canada-outlaws-toronto-based-muslim-relief-group-adds-it-to-terrorist-list/

So do government funds given to Muslim-run private schools in Australia.

It is common, happens all around the world. just a few links on it.

Notice how many are "new age muslims" you know the ones who claim islam means peace.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1029713/european-parliament-identifies-wahabi-and-salafi-roots-of-global-terrorism

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/mass-murder-in-the-middle-east-is-funded-by-our-friends-the-saudis-8990736.html

http://moneyjihad.wordpress.com/page/2/


http://www.terrorfinance.org/the_terror_finance_blog/2006/08/yassin_alkadist.html

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4077/bbc-syria-charities

Moneyjihad/terrorfinance are authoritative sites on the subject of muslims supporting terrorism.

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 8:16am:

So do government funds given to Muslim-run private schools in Australia.

which terrorists would that be FD?

You need to check the receipts Gandalf.

now now don't be smart FD. I know what discussion you are referring to, but for all the allegations of corruption in these schools, I don't recall any allegations of funneling funds to terrorists (or alleged terrorists). I think you just made that accusation up - but feel free to prove me wrong.

freediver wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 8:16am:

So do government funds given to Muslim-run private schools in Australia.

who know where it goes. The cash vanishes. Kids are taught to be islamics, the lying muslims are closed down.
no 'moderates' are overly concerned about it, why should they be ?

ban islam from Aussie

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

now now don't be smart FD. I know what discussion you are referring to, but for all the allegations of corruption in these schools, I don't recall any allegations of funneling funds to terrorists (or alleged terrorists). I think you just made that accusation up - but feel free to prove me wrong.

Sorry, it was wrong of me to assume that Australia's own highly respected Muslim community leaders siphon off millions of dollars from their own children's education for sinister causes. Perhaps they donated it to girl guides instead. Have you checked the receipts? I'm sure it is all in order.

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 7:22pm:

Sorry, it was wrong of me to assume that Australia's own highly respected Muslim community leaders siphon off millions of dollars from their own children's education for sinister causes. Perhaps they donated it to girl guides instead. Have you checked the receipts? I'm sure it is all in order.

The allegation is they siphoned off money from schools - no one except you is alleging they went to terrorists. Most corrupt people simply keep the money for themselves and their families.

Muslims can't simply be greedy and corrupt - they must be greedy, corrupt and sinnister right FD?

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no one except you is alleging they went to terrorists

And sprint. Do you really think I am the first one to come up with that theory? I'm flattered. What do you think our highly respected Muslim community leaders do with the millions of dollars they steal from their own children's education funds?


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Most corrupt people simply keep the money for themselves and their families.

That would make it a lot easier to get back. I hope so, for the children's sake. He certainly got a bit carried away don't you think? How do you launder and spend millions of dollars without being noticed while remaining a highly respected Muslim community leader? Overseas holidays? Syria perhaps?


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Muslims can't simply be greedy and corrupt - they must be greedy, corrupt and sinnister right FD?

They must follow in Muhammed's example. It's what being a Muslim is all about.

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 9:10pm:

He certainly got a bit carried away don't you think? How do you launder and spend millions of dollars without being noticed while remaining a highly respected Muslim community leader?

See the flaw here is assuming the money was taken secretly - it wasn't. It was taken very openly as "management fees". It was all in the books - thats how the auditors found out.

In any case, according to FD, its far too risky for launderers to keep the money themselves - but funneling it to terrorists wouldn't raise any eyebrows at all  ;D

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 7:56pm:

......... Most corrupt people simply keep the money for themselves and their families......

and where is the law about where corrupt people put the stolen money ?
Is that the honourable corrupt people ?

corrupt people steal to further their own desires. Which for muslims is to further islam.

we have seen repeatedly muslims having NO regard for any western society.

There should be an investigation into funding of Jewish terrorism.

Australian Jews are amongst the biggest contributors of Jewish terrorism in the Middle East. Why is the AFP not looking into it?

Jews frequently travel to the Middle Eat to commit war crimes, yet the AFP turns a blind eye.

Different laws for Jews than other Australians?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 10:24pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 9:10pm: He certainly got a bit carried away don't you think? How do you launder and spend millions of dollars without being noticed while remaining a highly respected Muslim community leader? See the flaw here is assuming the money was taken secretly - it wasn't. It was taken very openly as "management fees". It was all in the books - thats how the auditors found out. In any case, according to FD, its far too risky for launderers to keep the money themselves - but funneling it to terrorists wouldn't raise any eyebrows at all  ;D

So the auditors wouldn't have noticed if it simply disappeared rather than being written off in fraudulent management fees?

Buying a ferarri gets noticed. If you hand the money to terrorists, they tend to keep it quiet.

Stick to your claim that the funds went to terrorists FD - lets not get off track.

Its not unreasonable to demand evidence for such a claim.

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Stick to your claim that the funds went to terrorists FD - lets not get off track.

You are the one who introduced the alternative argument that he is merely a thief.


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Its not unreasonable to demand evidence for such a claim.

I never said it was. Demand away. Check the receipts. I'm sure they are all in order.

I don't have the receipts FD - surely you have some basis for the claim? Something other than "of course they did it - because they are muslims".

Not just any old Muslim, like yourself. I'm sure this guy isn't uncertain about what Muhammed meant when he said to kill gays, both the giver and the taker. They are respected Muslim community leaders. You don't get to that lofty height by being a common thief. It takes an uncommon thief. Muhammed for example wrote a book about all the Jew gold and women he stole, so that his followers could convince themselves it wasn't actually stolen. It went into management fees.

If he had bought himself a ferrari, there would be receipts. Are you suggesting terrorists don't give receipts?

Oh the lengths FD will go to to keep a stupid argument going.

Please do go on - at least there are more people on this forum to see you unravel.

Do you have any basis for your counter-claim that he simply stole it?

lol I'm not saying anyone stole anything.

Please continue missing the point.

What is the point?

Should we turn a blind eye to the terrorism risks associated with Muslim community leaders siphoning off millions of dollars in government funds because it is politically incorrect to draw a link between Islam and terrorism?

freediver wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 7:28pm:

What is the point? Should we turn a blind eye to the terrorism risks associated with Muslim community leaders siphoning off millions of dollars in government funds because it is politically incorrect to draw a link between Islam and terrorism?

If it happened, no. If it didn’t happen no. If it may have happened, no. If it may have never happened, let’t talk about Mo torturing Jews to find their gold.

You’re onto the scent here, FD. You may well solve a 1400 year old crime.

Sometimes a question is just a question, no?

You’re too modest, FD.

I'll take that as a yes.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 1:39pm:

lol I'm not saying anyone stole anything. Please continue missing the point.

course you are not. he is a muslim, you don't say anything against any muslim.

that's against your cults laws

freediver wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 10:12pm:

I'll take that as a yes.

What was the question again?

freediver wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 7:28pm:

What is the point?

That you have no evidence or any basis whatsoever for your claim that government funds given to Muslim-run private schools in Australia are given to terrorists.

Its an exceedingly simple point, and I'm not partaking in your pathetic obfuscations to muddy this exceedingly simple point.

You’ll need a suplimentary question, FD. G’s evading the issue of Muselman terrorist support backed up by your extensive evidence.

You’d better ask him again.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 7:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 7:22pm: Sorry, it was wrong of me to assume that Australia's own highly respected Muslim community leaders siphon off millions of dollars from their own children's education for sinister causes. Perhaps they donated it to girl guides instead. Have you checked the receipts? I'm sure it is all in order. The allegation is they siphoned off money from schools - no one except you is alleging they went to terrorists. Most corrupt people simply keep the money for themselves and their families. Muslims can't simply be greedy and corrupt - they must be greedy, corrupt and sinnister right FD?

Gandalf, it is not that they "must be". It is simply that they are sinister. You would have to be extremely naive not to suspect terrorism funding when highly respected Muslim community leaders siphon off millions of dollars of government funding that should have gone to educating their own children. There has been no revelations about a lavish lifestyle or swiss bank accounts. The money just disappeared into Islamic smoke.

That is why you disown your own alternative theories while demanding proof for the most likely explanation.

I don't have an alternative theory FD - I'm not trying to prove anything.

Your claim of terrorist funding is utterly baseless, thats all there is to it.

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I don't have an alternative theory FD - I'm not trying to prove anything.

Where did the theory about him being a common thief come from?


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Your claim of terrorist funding is utterly baseless, thats all there is to it.

Millions of dollars siphoned off by respected leaders of the Muslim community, from government funds that ought to have gone to educating their own children is not baseless. It is sinister, and it takes an elaborate exercise in naivete to not suspect the most sinister motives.

Maybe I am being unfair FD - maybe you really *DO* have some evidence to support your claim, but your just being coy about it.

I just can't believe you would be so persistent on this and not possess the only thing that could give your argument even an ounce of credibility.

The evidence is there. You just refuse to admit that it is evidence because you can concoct even more unlikely theories to explain it - eg that he is merely a common thief (despite all the money disappearing without a trace), and because you threw in the victimhood statement that it is wrong to think of sinister motives just because they happen to be highly respected Muslim community leaders siphoning off millions of dollars in government funds that should have gone to educating their own children.

Basically, anything short of the receipts from Al Qaida would be "not evidence" in your book. Have you checked the receipts yet? I'm sure they are all in order. They probably have them in the filing cabinets out the back of your local mosque. Check under "t" for terrorism.

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2014 at 6:23pm:

The evidence is there. You just refuse to admit that it is evidence because you can concoct even more unlikely theories to explain it - eg that he is merely a common thief (despite all the money disappearing without a trace), and because you threw in the victimhood statement that it is wrong to think of sinister motives just because they happen to be highly respected Muslim community leaders siphoning off millions of dollars in government funds that should have gone to educating their own children. Basically, anything short of the receipts from Al Qaida would be "not evidence" in your book. Have you checked the receipts yet? I'm sure they are all in order. They probably have them in the filing cabinets out the back of your local mosque. Check under "t" for terrorism.

LOL

But those - receipts issued by Al Qaida - would all be forgeries, FD.

Prove that they are not!!         :D         ;D




FD,

You are forgetting the principle condition of the moslem, of every moslem.

The moslem - is a moslem.

The moslem, is virtuous.

It is the non-moslem, who is the guilty party - before Allah.

That is why it is still not permitted for a non-moslem to give evidence against a moslem in a court of law, in many ISLAMIC jurisdictions.


Before Allah, the moslem is always the innocent party.

And the infidel is always the guilty party - BECAUSE - he is not a moslem.

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2014 at 6:23pm:

eg that he is merely a common thief (despite all the money disappearing without a trace)

Stop making sh!t up. No money disappeared - it went straight into the AFIC account as management fees and backdated rent. All there in the books.

You really are grasping at straws aren't you? If there was even a skerrick of substance to your claim, you would, in the absence of actual evidence of terrorist funding in this case, be illustrating clear and known links AFIC has to terrorists.


freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2014 at 6:23pm:

Basically, anything short of the receipts from Al Qaida would be "not evidence" in your book

How smacking hard is it to understand FD? There is not a shred of evidence that any money went from AFIC to terrorists, and there is not a shred of evidence linking AFIC to any terrorist organisation - let alone a history of funding them.

Basically anything short of actual evidence is not "evidence" in my book - yes how unreasonable that position is.  ::)

Funny how after extensive auditing by both state and federal government into this scandal there has been no mention of funding terrorists, or any other criminal activity. In fact Malik Fahd has had its government funding reinstated. Strange action by all authorities involved if "the evidence is there" that such criminal activity has occurred.

Better get on to the AFP FD - tell them about this evidence that "is there" - they might be interested, and as you undoubtedly know, its a crime to withhold evidence from the police.

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Stop making sh!t up. No money disappeared - it went straight into the AFIC account as management fees and backdated rent. All there in the books.

Ah, so there are receipts? Perhaps you should check them. I'm sure they are all in order.


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Funny how after extensive auditing by both state and federal government into this scandal there has been no mention of funding terrorist

That would be rather embarrassing wouldn't it? Our own government handing over millions of dollars to highly respected Muslim leaders to educate Muslim children, only for them to siphon it off for terrorists? Nudge nudge wink wink.

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Ah, so there are receipts?

Of course there are - how do you think the auditors identified them as "management fees" and backdated rent F_F_S??

Did you even think before writing that idiotic statement "all the money disappeared without a trace"?


freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

That would be rather embarrassing wouldn't it? Our own government handing over millions of dollars to highly respected Muslim leaders to educate Muslim children, only for them to siphon it off for terrorists? Nudge nudge wink wink.

Oh great, so its a smacking conspiracy now. The same guy who mocks people every second post for engaging in conspiracies.

Jesus H Christ  ::)

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Of course there are - how do you think the auditors identified them as "management fees" and backdated rent F_F_S??

So let me get this straight. Both state and federal authorities went through all of that paperwork, and did not find a single receipt from Al Quaida?

How about suspicious transfers, like say, three million dollars in management fees?

You can make light of it now FD, but the eggs well and trully on your face.

Resorting to desperate conspiracy theories - wow that was the lowest I've seen you FD.

What conspiracy theories? If highly respected Muslim community leaders steal millions of dollars from their own children's education funds, they are obviously conspiring.

freediver wrote on Jul 28^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

What conspiracy theories?

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

That would be rather embarrassing wouldn't it? Our own government handing over millions of dollars to highly respected Muslim leaders to educate Muslim children, only for them to siphon it off for terrorists? Nudge nudge wink wink.

Is that me making light of it, or is that me getting egg on my face?

who knows?

Its retarded, whatever it is.

Does the theft of millions of dollars by highly respected Muslim leaders count as evidence?

freediver wrote on Jul 29^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

Does the theft of millions of dollars by highly respected Muslim leaders count as evidence?

Of course FD - and if a whole host of agencies from both state and federal government weren't systematically engaging in a "nudge nudge wink wink" cover up conspiracy (as you explained they were), I'd be urging you to alert the authorities about this clear evidence of terrorist activity by Australia's peak muslim body.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 27^th, 2014 at 5:06pm:

Maybe I am being unfair FD - maybe you really *DO* have some evidence to support your claim, but your just being coy about it..

FD’s a bit of a dark horse when it comes to the Muselman. He doesn’t like to give too much away.

You know, underage marriage epidemics, Muslim crime waves, terrorism, etc, etc, etc. FD doesn’t like to show his hand.

He’s too modest.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 12:18am:

freediver wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 7:21pm: Does the theft of millions of dollars by highly respected Muslim leaders count as evidence? Of course FD - and if a whole host of agencies from both state and federal government weren't systematically engaging in a "nudge nudge wink wink" cover up conspiracy (as you explained they were), I'd be urging you to alert the authorities about this clear evidence of terrorist activity by Australia's peak muslim body.

I don’t think he can do that, G. It is not permitted for a non-Moslem to give evidence against a Moslem.

It is the non-Moslem who is the guilty party - before Allah.

The Moslem - is a Moslem.

Read your Koran.

Indeed K, how to offend a muslim?

Be a non-muslim.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 12:18am:

freediver wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 7:21pm: Does the theft of millions of dollars by highly respected Muslim leaders count as evidence? Of course FD - and if a whole host of agencies from both state and federal government weren't systematically engaging in a "nudge nudge wink wink" cover up conspiracy (as you explained they were), I'd be urging you to alert the authorities about this clear evidence of terrorist activity by Australia's peak muslim body.

How else do you explain the disappearance of all the receipts from Al Quaida?

aquascoot wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 6:55am:

Indeed K, how to offend a muslim? Be a non-muslim.

True, dear, but remember: no one has the right to not be offended.

We should all be non-Muslims, no?

The Moslem - is a Moslem.