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Message started by progressiveslol on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:21am

Title: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:21am
New solar theory predicts imminent global cooling

If the Sun mainly controls the temperature on Earth, a turning point is almost upon us. (In the second part of this series of blog posts we will demonstrate that carbon dioxide is responsible for less than 25% of the global warming of the last six decades, so presumably the Sun is mainly responsible.)

1   Why It’s Going to Cool

The reason for the cooling is the dramatic fall in solar radiation that started around 2004. Here is a graph of solar radiation since 1610, when sunspots were first recorded. The brown line is the solar radiation, and it peaks every 11 years or so because of the sunspot cycle. We put an 11-year smoother through it to give us the red line, which shows the trends in solar radiation.




There have been three big, steep falls in solar radiation in the last 400 years.

The first was in the 1600s. It led to the depths of the Little Ice Age, and the Maunder Minimum. This was the coldest period during the last 400 years. There used to be fairs on the ice in the Thames River in London, because it would freeze over for weeks at a time.

The second fall is around the time of Napoleon and it preceded the second coldest period in the last 400 years, called the Dalton Minimum.

The third fall occurred recently, starting in about 2004. This recent fall is as big as the fall in Napoleon’s time, almost as large as the fall in the 1600s, and it seems to be steeper than either of those falls. But the temperature hasn’t fallen … yet.

So the cooling is most likely to begin in 2017.
http://joannenova.com.au/2014/06/big-news-viii-new-solar-model-predicts-imminent-global-cooling/

Thanks Tony Abbott and the Liberal Party

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by buzzanddidj on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:52am
Joanne Codling





What CAN'T a

children's TV host

photographer

model

&

blogger

tell us ?





Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:56am
Wow buzz.... that's the best you got. Pathetic.

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by buzzanddidj on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:05am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:56am:
Wow buzz.... that's the best you got. Pathetic.



I'll stick with the ICCC, NASA, the CSIRO, The BOM - and British MET Office




Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:06am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:52am:
Joanne Codling





What CAN'T a

children's TV host

photographer

model

&

blogger

tell us ?


LMAO, a children's TV host, photographer, model and blogger is smarter than the entire global warming loony lobby!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:06am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:05am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:56am:
Wow buzz.... that's the best you got. Pathetic.



I'll stick with the ICCC, NASA, the CSIRO, The BOM - and British MET Office

Rightfully so, I don't think the church of AGW has spoken yet.

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by John Smith on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:14am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:06am:
Rightfully so, I don't think the church of AGW has spoken yet.


true, but the church of stupidology has, and you were the Bishop of that church

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:15am

John Smith wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:14am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:06am:
Rightfully so, I don't think the church of AGW has spoken yet.


true, but the church of stupidology has, and you were the Bishop of that church

der  ;D ::)

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by buzzanddidj on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:22am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:21am:
So the cooling is most likely to begin in 2017.





Didn't it start 17 years ago ?




Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:26am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:22am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:21am:
So the cooling is most likely to begin in 2017.





Didn't it start 17 years ago ?

You must keep up. We cant keep going over the same ground with every single air head.

It hasn't cooled or warmed further in 17 years.

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by buzzanddidj on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:36am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:26am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:22am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:21am:
So the cooling is most likely to begin in 2017.





Didn't it start 17 years ago ?



It hasn't cooled or warmed further in 17 years.





buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 12th, 2013 at 7:44am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 8:16pm:
A few INDISPUTABLE, UNDENIABLE FACTS




■The hottest average maximum temperature ever recorded across Australia – 40.33 degrees, was set on Monday,  January 7, 2013 - surpassing the old record of 40.17 °C set in 1976. (Bureau of Meteorology)

■The number of consecutive days where the national average maximum daily temperature exceeded 39°C has also been broken this week—seven (7) days (between 2–8 January 2013), almost doubling the previous record of four (4) consecutive days in 1973, (BOM)

■According to the National Climate Data Centre, nine of the 10 hottest years on record have been since 2000 (the other is 1998).

■While temperatures vary on a local and regional scale, globally it has now been 27 years since the world experienced a month that was colder than average. "If you’re 27 or younger, you’ve never experienced a colder-than-average month" - Philip Bump, Grist, November 16, 2012.

■The CSIRO has found Australian annual average daily maximum temperatures have steadily increased in the last hundred years, with most of the warming trend occurring since 1970.

■The Bushfire CRC (Cooperative Research Centre) says large areas of southern Australia, from the east coast to the west coast, face “above average fire potential” in the summer of 2012-13. According to the Climate Institute extreme fire danger days are expected to rise more than 15 per cent in south-eastern Australia.

■The last four months of 2012 - globally - were the hottest on record. (British Met Office) and 2012 was the hottest year the continental United States of America has ever recorded.("2012 Was the Hottest Year in U.S. History. And Yes - It's Climate Change", Bryan Walsh, TIME 8 January, 2013).

■The hot-dry trend is expected to continue, with the Climate Commission predicting large increases in the number of days over 35°C this century.

■Around the world, 2013 could be the hottest ever recorded by modern instrumentation, according to a recent study by Britain’s Met Office. If that turns out to be accurate, 2013 would surpass the previous record, held jointly by 2005 and 2010.




Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:57am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:36am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:26am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:22am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:21am:
So the cooling is most likely to begin in 2017.





Didn't it start 17 years ago ?



It hasn't cooled or warmed further in 17 years.





buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 12th, 2013 at 7:44am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 8:16pm:
A few INDISPUTABLE, UNDENIABLE FACTS




■The hottest average maximum temperature ever recorded across Australia – 40.33 degrees, was set on Monday,  January 7, 2013 - surpassing the old record of 40.17 °C set in 1976. (Bureau of Meteorology)

■The number of consecutive days where the national average maximum daily temperature exceeded 39°C has also been broken this week—seven (7) days (between 2–8 January 2013), almost doubling the previous record of four (4) consecutive days in 1973, (BOM)

■According to the National Climate Data Centre, nine of the 10 hottest years on record have been since 2000 (the other is 1998).

■While temperatures vary on a local and regional scale, globally it has now been 27 years since the world experienced a month that was colder than average. "If you’re 27 or younger, you’ve never experienced a colder-than-average month" - Philip Bump, Grist, November 16, 2012.

■The CSIRO has found Australian annual average daily maximum temperatures have steadily increased in the last hundred years, with most of the warming trend occurring since 1970.

■The Bushfire CRC (Cooperative Research Centre) says large areas of southern Australia, from the east coast to the west coast, face “above average fire potential” in the summer of 2012-13. According to the Climate Institute extreme fire danger days are expected to rise more than 15 per cent in south-eastern Australia.

■The last four months of 2012 - globally - were the hottest on record. (British Met Office) and 2012 was the hottest year the continental United States of America has ever recorded.("2012 Was the Hottest Year in U.S. History. And Yes - It's Climate Change", Bryan Walsh, TIME 8 January, 2013).

■The hot-dry trend is expected to continue, with the Climate Commission predicting large increases in the number of days over 35°C this century.

■Around the world, 2013 could be the hottest ever recorded by modern instrumentation, according to a recent study by Britain’s Met Office. If that turns out to be accurate, 2013 would surpass the previous record, held jointly by 2005 and 2010.


Yeh that's nice. What it has to do with this thread or not cooling or warming further in the last 17 years, only you or your ilk would know.

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by buzzanddidj on Jul 6th, 2014 at 10:17am
Climate change denial - school of thought ONE

Global tepratures have never risen in the last century

Global change denial - school of second thought

Global tempratures have risen in the last century - but not due to carbon emissions

Global change denial - school of third thought

Global tempratures stopped rising 17 years ag

Global change denial - school of fourth thought

Global tempratures to start falling in 3 years

Global change denial - school of fifth thought

kjn#jpv(isfvdg&hdshvd@!afhhic+n;cs






Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by Grendel on Jul 6th, 2014 at 11:48am
You seem a little heated Buzz...  that's going against global trends.

Even the IPCC called it a pause...  no warming for over 17 years I remember when it was 8,9,10,11,12 and they kept telling us it was going to restart every year or that it was still going up. regardless of the facts.
NO STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT WARMING FOR OVER 17 YEARS and counting...
You did say you were listening didn't you? :D

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by adelcrow on Jul 6th, 2014 at 11:54am
Its a good thing that fossil fuel is an infinite source of clean energy  ;D

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by Grendel on Jul 6th, 2014 at 11:56am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 11:54am:
Its a good thing that fossil fuel is an infinite source of clean energy  ;D

Don't worry Crowbait...  we can go nuclear.
Oh right I already told you that before didn't I. :D

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by Kytro on Jul 6th, 2014 at 12:17pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 11:56am:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 11:54am:
Its a good thing that fossil fuel is an infinite source of clean energy  ;D

Don't worry Crowbait...  we can go nuclear.
Oh right I already told you that before didn't I. :D


Technically nuclear isn't sustainable. It's not a bad option, but there are better in terms of cost.

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by DaS Energy on Jul 6th, 2014 at 12:52pm

Kytro wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 12:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 11:56am:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 11:54am:
Its a good thing that fossil fuel is an infinite source of clean energy  ;D

Don't worry Crowbait...  we can go nuclear.
Oh right I already told you that before didn't I. :D


Technically nuclear isn't sustainable. It's not a bad option, but there are better in terms of cost.



Correction. The highest cost electricity comes from nuclear power stations, the subsidy Governments pay for such power puts Coal to shame!

Title: Re: Abbotts carbon tax repeal just in time
Post by DaS Energy on Jul 6th, 2014 at 12:54pm

adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 11:54am:
Its a good thing that fossil fuel is an infinite source of clean energy  ;D


So much so the Australian Government has legislated 80% of all electricity must come from that source!

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