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Title: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:06pm
First Same Sex Marriage to occur in Australia took place today
Congrats Australia http://www.malaysiandigest.com/world/506927-australia-has-first-gay-marriage.htm A SAME-SEX marriage ceremony took place in Australia today and this time there’ll be no taking it back. Gordon Stevenson and Peter Fraser, a dual Australian/British citizen, were the first to be married in Australia under British same-sex marriage laws when they tied the knot at the British consulate in Sydney today. The pair married in a ceremony at 3pm, surrounded by a small group of family and friends, who travelled from around the country to witness the first-of-its-kind ceremony, conducted by British Consul General Nick McInnes. Never letting go of each other’s hands beneath the table, the men exchanged emotional vows while overlooking Circular Quay. The couple, who have been together for 19 years, said it was a dream come true to finally be legally married. “We’ve always wanted to get married so we decided to do it when Britain announced they were changing the laws,” Peter told news.com.au. “We had no idea we’d be the first.” The newlyweds’ parents weren’t able to make the trek from the UK to watch the ceremony, but Peter said his mum and dad were thrilled that their son is finally able to be married. “They’re over the moon,” Peter said. “They’ve always thought of Gordon as a son-in-law, so it’s nice to make it official.” Unfortunately for the newlyweds, the nuptials are meaningless under Australian law as soon as they left the consulate. Australian law fails to recognise marriages conducted under the laws of other countries if these marriages are between same-sex partners. For less than a week last year, same-sex couples were able to marry in the ACT before the laws were thrown out by the High Court. This time the marriages will stick, and Peter says opponents of marriage equality have nothing to fear from it. “I don’t see how it affects anyone else”, he told news.com.au. “We grow up with this idea that you meet someone, fall in love and get married. “Why should we be able to have that? “Most of the people opposed to it probably don’t know any gay people. If they did they’d see there’s nothing to fear from it. In other countries where it’s legal it hasn’t made a bit of difference to people’s lives except the people getting married.” The pair were greeted outside the consulate by a throng of well wishers who threw streamers as a bagpiper led the way. Speaking after the ceremony, Peter said it was one of the best days of his life, but was also tinged with sadness. “While I feel so proud and privileged to be the first of what I am sure will be many couples to marry here, I am also conscious that now that we’ve left the consulate and gone outside, our marriage will not be recognised under Australian law,” he said. “I hope that soon all Australians will be able to marry the person they love.” It’s the first time a same-sex marriage ceremony has been performed inside a consulate anywhere in the world, but more are booked in for every British consulate in every capital city in Australia. Sarah Midgely and Shirleene Robinson will marry at the British consulate on September 7. The couple, who have been together for seven years, say the marriage will be a chance to show their love to friends and family. “We’ve been engaged for two years now and we really want to share that special moment. It makes us so sad that we can’t do that under Australian law.” Same-sex couples have been able to marry in England and Wales since March, but today was the first day British citizens were able to marry at the consulate after the Abbott government indicated it had no objections to the ceremony taking place. It is an indication of just how far the marriage equality movement has come in Australia. In 2010, then Attorney-General, Labor’s Robert Mclelland, refused to allow Portugal to solemnise same-sex marriages in its consulate when the nation adopted new marriage laws. Australian Marriage Equality National Director Rodney Croome said today’s ceremony was a step in the right direction. “It is hopeful that the Australian government has allowed Australians to marry in UK consulates”, he said today. “The majority of Australians who support marriage equality will be asking, ‘If this can happen in a UK consulate then why not everywhere else in Australia?’” Independent MP for Sydney Alex Greenwich, who married his partner in a ceremony in Argentina in 2012, said marriage equality was on the horizon, but urged Prime Minister Tony Abbott to allow his MPs a conscience vote on the issue next time it faces parliament. “We’re closer than ever before, we have more supporters of marriage equality in this parliament than we had in the last one,” he said. “The position of the Prime Minister is becoming increasingly untenable. He’s the only Liberal party leader in this country who opposes a free vote.” same_sex.jpg (40 KB | 80
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:10pm
Wasn't there a hullaballoo about one in the ACT last year?
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by teddybear on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:12pm Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:10pm:
Same shyte different day ;) ;) |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:14pm Congratulations, bobby. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:15pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:06pm:
Meaningless and ridiculous. Two grown men playing dress-ups and mummy and daddy. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:16pm Soren wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:15pm:
How does it affect you? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by ian on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:18pm
isnt the British consulate considered British territory? If so this "marriage" didnt happen in australia.
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:23pm Soren wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:15pm:
Trying to stereotype non gay conditions onto same sex couples, a little childish don't you think? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Dame Pansi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:25pm
Good on them, if they're happy, I'm happy.
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:30pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:23pm:
Personally, I'm completely indifferent to all forms of marriage: it's an outdated concept that serves no real purpose in contemporary society (except for making caterers and wedding planners rich). However, I'd never tell any couple (gay or straight) that what they were doing is "meaningless and ridiculous". If it makes two more people in the world happy, without adversely affecting anyone else, how could anyone reasonably object to it? You'd have to be an unbelievably low form of life to deny or ridicule anyone's happiness, when it has zero affect on the rest of the world. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:46pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:23pm:
Ironic isn't it. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:53pm ian wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:18pm:
Correct, its just another greens beat up. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:01pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:25pm:
It's also about commonsense and families. The only reason the homo cult wants marriage is to shove it heterosexuals faces and the churches face.If there are enough loons in government they will sook moan and whine and eventually get their way its just a matter of time. It always amazes me how supposedly intelligent people think that practicing sick dirty acts with the body and dying of aids cutting their lifetime by 20% is normal. It takes all sorts I guess to numb the mind. They should have left it on the list of mental conditions right beside pedophilia where it was. The notion is ludicrous. It keeps feeble minds excited I guess and those looking for a cause any cause. Hey I know give them one big island, marry them all and come back two generations later to say gidday ;D . I bet nobodies home, just like upstairs. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Taipan on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:04pm
Disgusting.
They'll be asking room service for a pair of matching butt plugs and an Anal Intruder 3000 on their first honeymoon night. http://blogs.elpais.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/14/11din.jpg |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:11pm Taipan wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:04pm:
;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by matty on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:13pm
Homosexual marriage is still not recognised on Australia.
What a disgrace these so-called men are though. They ought to get down on their knees and beg God's forgiveness, and change their sinful ways toot sweet. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:16pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:01pm:
When the nazi concentration camps were emptied after the fall of nazi germany, most where freed. The surviving gay and lesbian inmates were shifted to western jails so they could finish their jail sentences. Marriage equality is a step in making what happened to same sex people at the hands of the nazis , less likely to happen again. Marriage equality is a step towards securing ourselves against opinions and agendas like your own. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:17pm matty wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
It is prophesied in the Bible it won't be long now. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:17pm matty wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
Which god and which sins? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:21pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
Utter rubbish. The only agenda here is gays rubbing it in every other sane persons face. It doesn't take a genius to work out poo jabbing your mate doesn't make little babies it makes little shytes who probably grow up to be greenies (or brownies). Do you know where your poo poo goes. Can you define what a sick pervert is I bet you can't. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:22pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:17pm:
Probably the Christian God and the sin of Sodomy. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:28pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:25pm:
Really... since when has it been just about LOVE? just because someone loves someone that doesn't give them the right to marry them. As for loving someone of the same sex... well that opens a whole new kettle of fish. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:29pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
:D :D :D Cuckoo |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:30pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:21pm:
Which part is utter rubbish. That gays and lesbians were persecuted ... that homosexuality was illegal ... that homosexual was once viewed as a mental disorder. The conviction of the Progressives towards social issues like marriage equality is about ending the threat from small minded people with backward looking agendas. This is not just about gays and anal sex ... it's about protecting the children of heterosexuals into the future forever. By uniting a wider vision of society we protect society. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:31pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:22pm:
Then surely the christian god can do that herself. Or are you promoting a faulty god unable to do it's own bidding. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:32pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:22pm:
Oh I'm pretty sure the God of Islam also frowns upon it. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:35pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:30pm:
Well lets go really wide and include all the perversions then and include any form of behaviour... I'll be avoiding living in the serial killer enclaves if that's alright with you. ::) |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:40pm Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:35pm:
I think your handbook says link marriage with bestiality first. If you don't follow the script, you could weaken your attack on future children of heterosexuals. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:41pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:30pm:
I bet you can't tell my why homosexuality was illegal. In fact I bet you can't work out why. Homosexuality is still viewed as a mental disorder by most intelligent people today. It seems you have a backward looking agenda to me and I am not a simple minded person. Protecting the children from hetersosexualists ;D ;D ;D :D You're not all there are you. ;D Here is a tip gays cannot have children brainwave. Just as mother nature intended. ;D Feel free to quote me. By uniting the sick and perverted of society you dilute and pervert society. Something you greens have been know for for years now. Its people like you that screw up the children today by your sick perverted indoctrination. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:43pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:40pm:
Nope that's the mindset you have Greenswine... you made the Nazi claim I never made one about bestiality, next you'll be all for allowing kiddie fiddling, then... but hey if that suits your social program of widening the acceptability of human behaviour then fine... you live with it. I won't. I'll be choosing a more conservative enclave to live in. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:44pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:31pm:
Awe diddums did I upset you. Try and post a coherent sentence next time. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:46pm
The greens have already moved down the bestiality road actually.
It just goes to show how sick and mentally unstable they are. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:00pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:41pm:
Homosexuality was illegal because of conservatism. Conservatism wants to homogenise the world and so weaken it. Be it economics or socially, conservatism is anti nature and anti diversity. Homosexuality has been removed from the list of mental illnesses. Protecting children from heterosexual is not the agenda, it's protecting the children of heterosexual from the homophobia mental illness still present in some conservative's thinking. Luckily homophobia is dying out as these conservatives take it to their graves. By the time the likes of Tony Abbott are dead, buried, and created, homophobia in the modern world should be too. As for same sex people having children. Nothing to do with ending homophobia so to protect future children of heterosexuals. This first gay marriage in Australia is a step in the march towards a progressive and enlighten society. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:08pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:00pm:
Conservatism? :D :D :D :D :D No it's probably because of the "nature of the beast" we are created man and woman for a reason you know. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:12pm Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:43pm:
The claim is correct concerning same sex people and concentration camps. Once the Nazis were beaten, the surviving gay prisoners were transferred to western jails to finish their sentences. Marriage equality is one step in stopping similar situations into the future. Your slippery slop argument is conservatism trying to stop one certainty of life. Change. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:15pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:44pm:
Which part are you having difficulty understanding? To be so worried about having to do the bidding of god, you are telling the world you follow a faulty god. If god has an agenda of hate, stand out of the way and let this entity do it's own thing. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:16pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:46pm:
Opposing conservative's agenda of animal cruelty so to make a bigger financial profit isn't bestiality. If you are unsure of the word's meaning, try a search engine. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:17pm
oh dear more...
Greenswine crazy... |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:18pm Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:08pm:
What's the reason ... in your mind? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:19pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:15pm:
Judging from his previous posts, pretty much everything. Perhaps his comprehension skills will improve once he reaches high school. Fingers crossed. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:22pm
I take it you two like a bit of rear action ;D .
Ohh I'm sorry its not nice making fun of people that think like you two do. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:27pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:16pm:
Um nice try but I wasn't referring to that. I would suggest that you should google more yourself, you seem pretty well uninformed. Well for a greeny you seem at the correct intellectual level I must admit. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:28pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:22pm:
Perhaps you should try it some time. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:29pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:18pm:
Ahhhh procreation, the continuence of the species... :D ;D :D ;D :D ::) ::) ::) BTW you've just hit new depths of stupidity... I figure someone has to tell you. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:32pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:22pm:
Seems you are hoping to take this thread down the sodomy channel, something you are not telling us? The human community are unlike the conservative political party,and their fear of being different. Not all gays partake in anal, same as heteros. If you are out to get your motor running, try googling a bit of anal porn and leave this thread for the grown ups. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:34pm Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:29pm:
Why? Why do we have to procreate and continue the species? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:28pm:
I said "Ohh I'm sorry its not nice making fun of people that think like you two do. " Do try and quote properly pecker. Hey man if you think like this little intellectual bright star greeny here no probs feel free. I don't mind. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:39pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
The depths of stupidity have been well left behind with that little chestnut. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:41pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:38pm:
I'm guessing you've never really met any, have you?. Obviously your parents didn't think. It's a shame. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:45pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:39pm:
Then if it's so easy, like to shine a light on your intelligence and give your opinion to why we have to procreate so to continue the species? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:46pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:32pm:
No thanks I don't need to become a degenerate because a degenerate doesn't want me posting common sense in a thread about degenerates. May I suggest you take your fetish to the next level and drum up some bestiality sex for yourself on google. Your beloved greens party is already going down the bestiality path. As far as grown ups are concerned you are far from it so I suggest you leave stat. Intellectually you seem a bit backward. You stared the thread on Sodomite marriage I didn't brainwave. If you don't like it don't post it. The human community is made up of many sick mentally disturbed people from pedophiles to murderers to mentally backward freaks that can't get any into anal porn. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:41pm:
Much like yours no doubt pecker. Obviously. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:48pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:45pm:
My goodness that's Gold ... ;D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:53pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:47pm:
Wonderful retort. "I know you are, but what am I?" You'll go far. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:53pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:46pm:
Thread isn't on sodomy, it was taken there by you bringing it up. So why do you feel threaten by the private sex lives of some consenting people yet are not offended by other couple who engage in a full sex lifes. I don't hear you complaining about Abbott and his wife's rear end activities. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:53pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:48pm:
Shooting Blanks? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:05pm
Serious question.
If a poster is homophobic due to a fear of their own homosexual tendencies, is it wise to tease him about those tendencies. Isn't that just reinforcing the negative feelings he has about that aspect of himself and other gay men. Isn't it likely just to entrench his homophobia and perhaps encourage him to persecute openly gay men? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:18pm MOTR wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:05pm:
Ah the old homophobic chestnut. I have never really seen anyone scared of a sodomite yet. Yet for some reason the loonies like to think people are. Its quite amusing actually they think like this. The old latent homosexual chestnut has been done to death also. Clearly you have no intellect if all you have left is that. I take it the greenies are upset again. ::) |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:27pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:18pm:
So I take it, Mahdi, alongside being an expert in climatology, you are also an expert in repressed homosexual tendencies. Perhaps you could apply your expertise to this article. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/homophobic-maybe-youre-gay.html Quote:
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:36pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
Well, personally having come across you here... I'm hoping you don't. And yes, I think if you ask anyone why there is male and female in nature it is for procreation and the continuance of the species... you never did biology at school? Never went to a father/son or mother/daughter night? :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:37pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:39pm:
Oh Greenswine left it behind a few posts earlier and on many other topics. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:48pm Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:36pm:
I thought so. You can't answer the question I have taken the question elsewhere in the hope of more intelligent answers. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:51pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:48pm:
I already answered it stupid... Do you really need to advertise your stupidity post after post for all to see? :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:52pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:18pm:
Have you ever really seen anyone who knows the difference between a homosexual and a sodomite? You clearly don't. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:54pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:48pm:
Fixed. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:56pm Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:51pm:
You didn't You stated the male - female and the continuance of the species, yet you haven't stated why. Why we have to continue the human species. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:54pm:
Thanks. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:59pm Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:51pm:
No, you didn't. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 8:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:59pm:
yes I did... |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28th, 2014 at 8:09pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:56pm:
Every single person in this forum knows she didn't. Except, of course, Gwendoline. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by ian on Jun 28th, 2014 at 8:17pm Taipan wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 5:04pm:
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Taipan on Jun 28th, 2014 at 8:23pm ian wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 8:17pm:
If you're so sure I know then you must know too, so maybe theres something you have to tell the forum? :D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Taipan on Jun 28th, 2014 at 8:24pm
And stop following me around ian its creeping me out.
Are you a poof? Im starting to get the impression you're a bit of a nancy boy. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 8:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 7:52pm:
Next time groggery make some sense. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 28th, 2014 at 8:53pm
This one's for you Peccerhead...
Ahhhh procreation, the continuence of the species... yes I did!!! ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by St George of the Puissant HLT on Jun 28th, 2014 at 9:02pm
With a likely 9Bn people somehow I think the species can take 10% being homosexual and so non–breeding.
Another pathetic roach argument shot down in flames. Too easy. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 28th, 2014 at 9:08pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:16pm:
It makes me laugh at the ridiculous self-obsession of gays. It also makes me uneasy about the fallocentric community setting the agenda for society. Also, deviance being normalised also makes me uneasy. No matter what violence is made to the language, two blokes are not married. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 28th, 2014 at 9:35pm Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 8:53pm:
That is what, the question is why continue the species. You haven't answered. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by fractalign on Jun 28th, 2014 at 9:42pm
Gay people tying the knot while straights are abandoning it in droves, there is irony in this somewhere !
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 9:46pm fractalign wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 9:42pm:
Yeah gays are dropping dead of aids and straights aren't ;D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 28th, 2014 at 9:47pm St George of the Garden wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 9:02pm:
How exactly was that ;D ;D If that was an argument you need to polish it a bit more before posting. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by St George of the Puissant HLT on Jun 28th, 2014 at 10:23pm
Darn! A sock!
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by ian on Jun 28th, 2014 at 10:39pm Taipan wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 8:24pm:
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:43am Soren wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 9:08pm:
Personally, I'm completely indifferent to all forms of marriage: it's an outdated concept that serves no real purpose in contemporary society (except for making caterers and wedding planners rich). However, I'd never tell any couple (gay or straight) that what they were doing is "meaningless and ridiculous". If it makes two more people in the world happy, without adversely affecting anyone else, how could anyone reasonably object to it? You'd have to be an unbelievably low form of life to deny someone their happiness, or ridicule them for it, when it has zero affect on the rest of the world. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Sir Bobby on Jun 29th, 2014 at 7:26am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:43am:
Not that there's anything wrong with it. ;) |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:28am Bobby. wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 7:26am:
There's certainly something wrong with Soren. His irrational fear of gays and Muslims is really quite alarming. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:31am
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:30am ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:23pm:
:D And what is gay 'marriage' if not a childish attempt to present homosexuals as if they were heterosexual? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:34am Soren wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:30am:
Another meaningless and ridiculous post from Soren. I think the old boy's on the sauce. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Greens_Win on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:36am Soren wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:30am:
Marriage represents recognised commitment. Nothing to do with heteros. If it was representative of hetero then every hetero would be married. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:51am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:28am:
;D I am glad and reassured when the sandalista PC brigade is alarmed', numpty. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 12:33pm Soren wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:51am:
Nothing "PC" about letting people be happy: it's just a normal part of humanity. I wouldn't expect you to understand though. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:05pm ____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:36am:
Except, of course, it is a heterosexual social institution. Men and women, the tow sexes, organising their relationship is crucially necessary for social cohesion, stability, propagation. Homosexual relationships are completely irrelevant to social cohesion and organisation. Homosexuals want to get 'married' precisely because marriage is a normalising institution and has been for millennia. Homosexuals want to pretend that their relationship is essentially the same as that of men and women in marriage. But it is not. It is a deviance from heterosexual marriage and gays want to co-opt marriage precisely to cover over that deviance. For most of its history marriage has not been - and still is not in many parts of the world - about two people loving each other. Marriage is about society, not just the man and woman who marry. Homosexual coupling has no social relevance. This is why gay 'marriage' is ridiculous play acting. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:11pm Soren wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:05pm:
I suspect that's why they call it same-sex marriage. Nothing gets past you, does it? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 12:33pm:
As long as you are alarmed. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:42pm Soren wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:41pm:
Always two steps behind: that's our Soren. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:11pm:
Mind like a steel trap. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:50pm
Goes to show that not every change in society is progress.
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:55pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:50pm:
7th September 2013 is certainly evidence of that. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:13pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:11pm:
And that's why it is still a deviance, a biological, evolutionary, not to say moral and ethical, deviance. No matter what you call it, homosexuality is not something you want to encourage, promote, boost. It IS a deviance. It can be tolerated - decriminalising it did just that - but you do not want to treat is as normal because if it were normal we would die out. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:16pm Soren wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:13pm:
And why do you think that's a bad thing? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:21pm
I was under the impression this was not under Australian Law at all as it is an Illegal practice.
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:21pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 6:55pm:
you are an idiot. no matter what you say, it is evidence that you are an idiot. say something, anything. it will make you an idiot. magic, innit? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:16pm:
because you are an idiot. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:25pm Soren wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:22pm:
Struggling to find an answer? Why am I not surprised? You'll have to do a lot better than that, old boy. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Brian Ross on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:27pm Soren wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:13pm:
Interesting thinking there, Soren. So, if we treated homosexuality as normal, everybody would become homosexual? ::) |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:28pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:21pm:
Well, you obviously struggle with basic reading and comprehension skills. "Personally, I'm completely indifferent to all forms of marriage: it's an outdated concept that serves no real purpose in contemporary society (except for making caterers and wedding planners rich). "However, I'd never tell any couple (gay or straight) that what they were doing is "meaningless and ridiculous". "If it makes two more people in the world happy, without adversely affecting anyone else, how could anyone reasonably object to it? "You'd have to be an unbelievably low form of life to deny or ridicule anyone's happiness, when it has zero affect on the rest of the world." http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1403935592/9#9 How stupid do you look now? Well, not as stupid as Soren. I guess that's some consolation for you. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:28pm
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:31pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:27pm:
Soren's not exactly known for his critical thinking skills. Go easy on the old boy. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:25pm:
No struggle. You ARE an idiot - the science is in. But you are lucky - it's not illegal to be an idiot, |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Brian Ross on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:31pm:
I have noticed. Poor lad. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:39pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:28pm:
Not as stupid as you. According to you you are condoning a Pedophile in a relationship with a child where both are happy. Case in point many in Thailand. A very progressive country yes ? The irony of your outdated concepts wants us back at the barbarian stages. You are just soo switched on and smart. Yes according to you you must encourage two people that practice a sick act that will take 20% off their lifetime as males and increase disease and infection in themselves, all because they say they love each other. Yes grogerry we must help the aids virus spread because the core people spreading it say they love each other. You are such a bright spark yes. How stupid do you look now? At least you don't teach in our schools, that's a good thing. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:39pm Soren wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:34pm:
Your last three posts have been personal abuse. Looks like I'm getting to you, old boy. So, back to the question: why would it be a bad thing? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:40pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:38pm:
Clearly neither of you know what critical thinking is. Quick consult professor google. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:42pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:39pm:
Thank you for proving my theory correct: you do have very limited reading and comprehension skills. "If it makes two more people in the world happy, without adversely affecting anyone else, how could anyone reasonably object to it?" It's like shooting fish in a barrel with you. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:46pm Soren wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:34pm:
Only not illegal because of the humorous medicinal qualities people like him provide. The feigned understandings of what people post. The disagreeing just to stir the pot when they don't know anything about the subject at hand. Essentially nothing really to add to discussion just a crutch for their loneliness. However this is amusing to watch when they are tongue tied and stuck for words looking stupid. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:46pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:38pm:
You'll also notice that once he has been defeated (which is a fairly common occurrence), he'll resort to personal insults and then log off for the night. He's as predictable as he is silly. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:42pm:
So now you have a theory groggery ;D Gee whiz you da man. Your comment still fails them both groggery. The only fish being shot in this barrel old boy is yourself by yourself. Carry on. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
He's probably just sick of your nonsensical posts more to the point. They seem the same no matter what thread we see you in. Lets face it the company you keep with Brian Ross ain't exactly lending any credence to the mix is it if you have to slum it. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:51pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:48pm:
I did have a theory. Now I have a scientific fact. Thank you. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:54pm
Everybody give groggery a clap.
He thinks he has his first scientific fact. *claps* |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:55pm
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
you know you are svcking each other's d!cks in public, don't you boys? Is this what gay marriage is about? Tut tut.... |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:03pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:54pm:
Oh, it's not the first. Thanks, anyway. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Sir Phoney Liebral on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:03pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:27pm:
I love this little gem! Let me guess - it will lead to dog marriage - just like giving women the vote lead to dogs voting. There is no slippery slope, there is no gay agenda and no, we aren't going to convert children. As my father found out - even if your the biggest homophobe who tries to beat your child and disowns them, it will not change the fact they are gay. All it will do is mean they don't talk to you when you get older and your stuck with children who are more interested in your money - good luck with that! For the final time - It will not lead to the downfall of society, it will not lead to incest, bestiality, paedophilia or any other shite you can name that gets you excited. This is about 2 unrelated adult TAXPAYERS who happen to be the same sex getting the same recognition as those who are already married. 50% of whom get divorced within a 7 year period and thus invalidating all of the religious b.s (btw I went to a catholic school so don't get me started on that book of fairy tales called the bible!) that you sprout. 1 - Yes I have been with a woman. No, in fact I didn't find it "fantastic". 2 - I do not care what happens in your bedroom, so stop caring about what happens in mine. 3 - Gay people aren't everywhere - if you don't want to see it, stop watching it. 4 - If you are against gay marriage but watch lesbian porn - YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE. 5 - The bible also rules out divorce, tattoos, working on Sundays, eating shell fish and any of the other gabillion things we currently do. IT'S NO LONGER RELEVANT 6 - The church should get their poo together before preaching to anyone. 7 - No it really won't effect you in any way, shape or form. You aren't invited to the wedding, you aren't in a gay relationship and no those 2 lesbians aren't interested in you joining them (trust me!) 8 - There is no such thing as ex-gay. It's not a choice and anyone who is comfortable with themselves knows this. If you think it's a choice, when will you choose to sleep with men instead of women? I would suggest for those that are grossed out by this to STOP THINKING ABOUT IT, starting living your life and stop caring about what other consenting adults do. Of course studies have been done on homophobes (I understand your not gay, but your boyfriend is) I suggest getting help. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:27pm Bumping, for that last post. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Brian Ross on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:29pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
Rather like this new fellow Mahdi sock-puppet. He trolls constantly all over the place and all he can do is resort to ad hominem. ::) |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:29pm Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:03pm:
;D The irony of the apologists is hilarious. That post is the funniest thing I have read all year. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:31pm
I think Sir Phoney Liberal needs to be comfortable is his choices. ;D
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:31pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:29pm:
Yes. I think it might be Grendel. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Sir Phoney Liebral on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:32pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:31pm:
So when are you going to start sleeping with other men? If it's a choice you should be able to choose quite easily. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:35pm Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:32pm:
I find it silly nonsense entertaining the fact of putting feces all over my penis and the possibility of contracting aids or some other disease bought on by playing with bodily waste. See groggery he is up on anal sex. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:36pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:31pm:
You two trolls wouldn't have one brain cell between the two of you. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:36pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:35pm:
Where do you prefer to put it? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:37pm
Bottoms up Groggery have another troll.
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:38pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:37pm:
You didn't answer. Where do you prefer to put it? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:44pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:36pm:
Looks like I was right ;D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Brian Ross on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:45pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:31pm:
Could be. Style is similar... |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:47pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:45pm:
Ignorant. Homophobe. Islamophobe. Racist. Retarded. Yes. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Aussie on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:47pm:
But......not Grendel. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:55pm Aussie wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:49pm:
I suppose Grendel wouldn't know how to create a sock. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Jun 29th, 2014 at 10:01pm
"KRUD News with our Person On The Street segment...
Sir! what do you think about Gay Marriage?" "They can stick it up their Rs!" "Thank you...... Ma'am - what do YOU think about Gay Marriage?" "Gay what?" "And what are your views on Aboriginal rights?" "If they don't like it they can go back where they came from!" "What about boat people?" "They can sink or swim on their own merits, just like everyone else." "Thank you, Ma'am... Sir.. SIR! What is your view on Gay Marriage?" "Never seen one.. don't want to. Got enough trouble with me own." |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Mahdi on Jun 29th, 2014 at 10:40pm Aussie wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:49pm:
Go away to stupid man, everyone thinks you are the local clown. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:44pm
**yawn... gets out popcorn and beer.. well.. beer***....
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:46pm ____ wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 9:35pm:
Continuence of the species is also a why you dropkick.... or would you prefer extinction perhaps? :D :D :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:48pm
As for the rest of you Leftards and Bwian.... I don't use socks, unlike Bwian who is well known for using many.
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:55pm:
Grendel doesn't feel the need to ever create one... unlike others here. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by ian on Jun 30th, 2014 at 12:05am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:55pm:
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Jun 30th, 2014 at 12:07am
Oh, well - in the moral superiority stakes here - I have no sicks!
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 30th, 2014 at 12:09am ian wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 12:05am:
I'm quite sure it's moot any way you want to look at it. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by ian on Jun 30th, 2014 at 12:16am
wheres Mahdi gone?
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jun 30th, 2014 at 7:25am
Hard not to be persuaded by Jesse Ventura's argument.
"Love is bigger than government. Who the hell are we the government to tell people who you can fall in love with. I think it's absurd the fact it's even being debated. We can solve the problem simply. Government only acknowledges civil unions, then you don't have to put your sex down. Let the churches acknowledge marriage, they're the private sector. If they don't want to acknowledge it, they have every right to do so. How on earth can we even entertain the fact that government should have the right to tell you, as an individual who you can fall in love with. It's ridiculous." Amen, brother. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:02am |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:10am Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:46pm:
And why do you think that's important? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:06am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:47pm:
Please keep posts to be about the subject and not offensive insult hurling with playground labels like "retarded". |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Verge on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:19am MOTR wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 7:25am:
Excellent post. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:24am
So every generation before us was wrong to say marriage was between men and women?
We are the only generation to see this? What was that about the arrogant generation again? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Verge on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:27am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:24am:
And it was only the generation before us that gave black people and women the right to vote. Was every generation before them also right? Society evolves. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:33am
A pair of fellas dressing up and playing house is up to them.
It's not the job of our society to say this immoral behaviour is normal. I'm all for them registering their relationship civilly and getting similar rights to defacto regular couples. But not marriage no. Homosexuality is not normal behaviour and whilst we should recognise some rights for them we certainly should not normalise their actions. It is not to be encouraged. I'll take the society of 1954 over 2014 anyday. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2014 at 11:04am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:33am:
Why not, exactly? It will have absolutely no affect on the rest of us, and it will make a few more people in the world happy. Why would you deny them their happiness? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Winston Smith on Jun 30th, 2014 at 12:48pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:33am:
Completely harmless, unlike what you dress up as and pretend to be. ;) |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jun 30th, 2014 at 12:55pm Winston Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 12:48pm:
On this point we can certainly agree, Winston Smith. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 30th, 2014 at 6:46pm MOTR wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 7:25am:
What a load of rubbish in relation to the gay marriage debate... |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 30th, 2014 at 6:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:10am:
I'm pretty sure everyone except perhaps YOU and Greenswine will understand why you deserve this response... :D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Brian Ross on Jun 30th, 2014 at 6:54pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:33am:
Well, actually I can't think of a better mob to do so. Afterall, morality is generally a reflection of societal values. ::) |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:26pm Grendel wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 6:50pm:
Thank you so much for supporting the argument that continuance of the species is not important. Well done you. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:28pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:33am:
It's not your job to suggest that their behaviour is immoral. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:30pm
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:30pm
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Datalife on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:39pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:26pm:
I missed the argument or was it deleted? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:42pm Datalife wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:39pm:
Neither. Thanks for providing further support. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Sir Bobby on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:44pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:42pm:
Not that there's anything wrong with it. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:50pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:44pm:
Exactly. Nothing wrong with it at all. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Sir Bobby on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:50pm:
Normal behaviour. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:53pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:51pm:
Indeed. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Jun 30th, 2014 at 9:07pm
I thought 'gay marriage' was yesterday's news.... a shot duck.... I have nothing against it personally, but isn't this a waste of time?
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:22pm Datalife wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:39pm:
No it's just Peccerhead being a lying dipstick again. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jul 1st, 2014 at 8:42am
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 9:47pm:
:D :D :D Pressing all the sandalista PC buttons. you must be feeling exceptionally virtuous, Prickadonna. Feeling better, |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jul 1st, 2014 at 4:54pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:27pm:
Is that your clearest thinking, Brain? Homosexuality is an aberration. You can have a functioning society with 100 % heterosexual but it is impossible to have a functioning society with 100% homosexuals. Marriage is about the relationship between men and women. They make up the species and society, their relationship is crucial to every society. This is why marriage is present in some way in every society - as a social function. Managing the sexual relationship of homosexuals is not a matter for either the species or any society - it is a fringe aberration. Homosexuals have no valid claim, therefore, on one of the crucial institution in society because homosexuality by its very definition is completely irrelevant to social relationship between men and women, for which marriage is the central institution. This is not difficult, it's not homophobic - it just recognises marriage for what it is and why it is not for gays. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jul 1st, 2014 at 10:51pm
Bwian.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
not the brightest bulb on the tree and always good for a strawman. If same sex couples could have children naturally bwian you may well be onto something there... but as you well know they cannot. In fact through the ages it has been opposite sexes that have created life and the continuation of the species. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 3:37am Grendel wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 6:46pm:
Go on. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 3:45am Soren wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 4:54pm:
Ummm, Soren, that's exactly what you were implying. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 5:05am
On Tuesday, a federal judge ruled Kentucky’s ban on same-sex marriages unconstitutional and issued a withering take-down of marriage equality opponents.
Kentucky had argued that legalizing gay marriage would harm the state's birth rate. "These arguments are not those of serious people," wrote US district judge John Heyburn. "Though it seems almost unnecessary to explain, here are the reasons why. "Even assuming the state has a legitimate interest in promoting procreation, the Court fails to see, and Defendant never explains, how the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage has any effect whatsoever on procreation among heterosexual spouses. Excluding same-sex couples from marriage does not change the number of heterosexual couples who choose to get married, the number who choose to have children, or the number of children they have. "The state’s attempts to connect the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage to its interest in economic stability and in 'ensuring humanity’s continued existence' are at best illogical and even bewildering…The Court can think of no other conceivable legitimate reason for Kentucky’s laws excluding same-sex couples from marriage." Says it all really. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 6:38am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:28pm:
No - but it's his right to hold a view on that behaviour. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 6:44am MOTR wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 5:05am:
Well - he's right - it's a specious argument. Gay marriage isn't going to slow down the rate of heterosexual shagging, is it? Not disagreeing of agreeing with gay marriage or banning it here - just saying that the argument put forward don't hold water. Not quite sure if that actually means that opposing gay marriage is 'unconstitutional' - constitutionality involves more than a court decision on the facts presented in a specific case, and only that case. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Sir Phoney Liebral on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 2:56pm
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/07/02/us-anti-gay-archbishop-investigated-over-new-allegations-he-sexually-touched-men/
US: Anti-gay Archbishop investigated over new allegations he ‘sexually touched’ men Anti Gay - Check Gay Sex Scandal - Check |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 3:02pm MOTR wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 3:37am:
Why? Don't you understand why? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Grendel on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 3:05pm MOTR wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 5:05am:
What is bewildering and illogical is the thought that gay couples are the norm and the natural process of continuation of the species or procreation can be achieved by them naturally. I have no idea what the economic argument was. :D |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Caliph adamant on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 6:55pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 8:27pm:
If society treated you as "normal" what would you be classed as, Troll perhaps? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 7:14pm MOTR wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 5:05am:
He rejected the procreation defence of marriage. Not the argument - which was not put to him - that marriage is about men and women. If that argument were to be attempted in court - that marriage is not restricted to a man and a woman -, homosexuals would have to provide a list of people who would be excluded from marriage if its definition changed. The current definition - one man and one woman - is self-explanatory. Removing the sexual aspect - man and woman - but not the numbers - one of each - is arbitrary and baseless. But homosexuals do not want to change that part of the definition (yet), lest they be fingered (ahem) as slippery slope merchants. Homosexuals are not prepared to fight for inclusion on the basis of excluding some others whose preference runs to numbers. This is why the gay marriage argument is really flimsy and ill-considered. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by MOTR on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 7:18pm Grendel wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 3:05pm:
Who exactly is arguing that procreation can be achieved through gay couples, grendel. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:16pm MOTR wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 3:45am:
THe opposite - even if you legalise gay 'marriage', homosexuality will still be an aberration. You cannot legalise against nature and social institutions around nature. For example, you can legislate that a step-father is legally the same as a natural father, yet a step-father is NOT the father of the child. You can legislate that a man has the right to give birth, legalise a pregnant woman's right to change to a man and then when she is legally a man, give birth - but still, that is not a man giving birth. That is a woman pretending to be a man giving birth. Marriage is a social institution regulating the natural relationship between the sexes, men and women. It is not an institution regulating the relationship between any two persons. Two blokes or two gals pretending to have the same relationship as a man and a woman is ludicrous. It is a knowing pretence. The relationship between a man and a woman is completely different from the relationship between two men or two women. You have to be wilfully blind and/or stupid to pretend otherwise. No gay marriage advocate ever addresses the fundamental principle of marriage - that it is about the two sexes that make up the species. This is what makes marriage universal and age-old institution, not love or commitment which are neither universal nor age-old. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:16pm Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 6:38am:
Nobody is suggesting otherwise. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:19pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:25pm:
This is as soppy as it is false. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:19pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:53pm:
Well actually - bum chumming your mate is not normal. forgiven namaste |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:20pm Soren wrote on Jul 1st, 2014 at 8:42am:
If the shoe fits, princess ... |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Culture Warrior on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:28pm:
lol. People have every right to judge it as they see fit. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:31pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:28pm:
Yes. Nobody is suggesting otherwise. On the turps tonight, Misty? |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Culture Warrior on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:31pm:
Yawn. Semantics. You tried to be judge, jury, and executioner, Peccy, now you're doing a 180. Yawn. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:40pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:19pm:
Well actually - bum chumming your mate is not normal. forgiven namaste |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:42pm
Yeah - any decent mate goes out and pays for two blow jobs and gives his mate one when he gets home!
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by sir alevine on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:42pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:28pm:
Lol, an individual can believe the world is flat if they want. But society basis decisions on evidence and on facts. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:51pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:38pm:
"Yawn", indeed. I've noticed that about you, Misty: as soon as you're caught out, you pretend like it's all too much and that you just can't be bothered. Greg - 1 Misty - 0 Sorry old boy: the old "semantics" defense didn't cut it this time. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:55pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:42pm:
Not Misty and his "mates", unfortunately. What they say goes! The personal opinion of the retarded right is law, according to these arrogant wannabes. Misty works at a Uni, you know ;) |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by Soren on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:20pm:
... you are wearing them, Princess Prickadonna. |
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Title: Re: First Gay Marriage In Australia Today Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:59pm Soren wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:57pm:
"Am not, you are?" Oh dear, Soren. That's lame, even for you. Have another Jim Beam and Coke, and try again later. |
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