THE federal government has warned the rollout of Sydney’s second airport at Badgerys Creek and the WestConnex motorway project are under threat after Labor and the Greens blocked its infrastructure bill in the Senate. 
 
The opposition and the minor party refused to support the new bill unless the government agreed to 29 amendments, including mandatory assessments of all projects for their impact on climate change. The government claimed its new infrastructure bill would allow fast-tracking of road projects for Western Sydney by allowing the government to make decisions on infrastructure without being impeded by bureaucracy.

Senior ministers yesterday accused Labor of delaying vital road projects in Sydney and backlogging the $50 billion ­national infrastructure package announced in the Budget.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott convened an urgent meeting of his Cabinet infrastructure sub-committee on Tuesday to plan a response to the unexpected move by the opposition to block its road building bill. The government claimed the amendments would impose a new layer of red and green tape on projects and delay major infrastructure projects for Sydney, including WestConnex, a second airport and a $3 billion roads program for Western Sydney.

The changes would require Infrastructure Australia (IA) to consider the environmental benefits and sustainability of WestConnex and Badgerys Creek as well as conduct new cost-benefit analysis. It would also restore power to the states to veto projects.

The opposition claimed the government’s bill, which was passed in the lower house in November after debate was gagged, was flawed and was designed only to reduce the ­independence of IA to assess infrastructure projects.

Assistant Minister for Infrastructure Jamie Briggs accused Labor of siding with the Greens to delay projects it had previously given bipartisan support to. “The Coalition is committed to investing $50 billion in infrastructure across Australia by 2019-20, including almost $15 billion in NSW,” Mr Briggs said.

“But the Labor Party and the Greens are blocking our ­attempts to ensure the roads of the 21st century are delivered quickly and efficiently.

“Their amendments will make approvals for infrastructure slower by drowning projects in red and green tape.

“It will jeopardise the delivery of nation-changing infrastructure projects such as Badgerys Creek and will ­ensure major projects such as WestConnex are held up, ultimately making the process more costly.”

Opposition Infrastructure spokesman Anthony Albanese said the bill was flawed and the amendments were backed by the Business Council of Australia: “Our key amendment to the flawed legislation was supported by BCA and the business community … which understood the original legislation undermined the independence of IA.’’

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/bill-shortens-western-roadblock-labor-puts-the-breaks-on-sydney-infrastructure/story-fni0cx12-1229667013567

When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 5:24am:

When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office?

Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 5:24am:

When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office?

Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years.

The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 5:24am:

When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office?

Good on them, that's their job, good to see they're doing it.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 7:34am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit.

Follow the money-trail, and you'll likely find that a Lib benefactor owns the land, or something similar.

Is Tony Abbott the countries first PM to not have a clue on how to negotiate?
Imagine the mess after the next election when he ends up in a minority govt trying to get his hard line policies up and running  ;D

Kat wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 7:54am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:34am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit. Follow the money-trail, and you'll likely find that a Lib benefactor owns the land, or something similar.

n ononononono  that OBEID>..

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 8:41am:

Is Tony Abbott the countries first PM to not have a clue on how to negotiate? Imagine the mess after the next election when he ends up in a minority govt trying to get his hard line policies up and running  ;D

Well, you're half-right.

He doesn't have a clue. Period.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 5:24am:

When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office?

they lurvvvvvvv red tap....they have shares in the red tap industry...

what idiots.. and they talk about the libs being one eyed when it comes to the future.. of course we can see through these pretend politicians.. who are there very much for their own benefit and not ours....milne she gets uglier every time I see her so bitter looking..and shortarse.. looks more and more like a rabbit caught in the headlights....pathetic.

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

Kat wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:54am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:34am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit. Follow the money-trail, and you'll likely find that a Lib benefactor owns the land, or something similar. n ononononono  that OBEID>..

Lets face it...both parties in NSW are equally corrupt..the crap thats now coming out about both Labor and the Libs in that state would spark a revolution in most countries.

Kat wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 8:50am:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:41am: Is Tony Abbott the countries first PM to not have a clue on how to negotiate? Imagine the mess after the next election when he ends up in a minority govt trying to get his hard line policies up and running  ;D Well, you're half-right. He doesn't have a clue. Period.

unlike shortarse who is clueless..dumb as a crock.

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

Kat wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:54am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:34am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit. Follow the money-trail, and you'll likely find that a Lib benefactor owns the land, or something similar. n ononononono  that OBEID>..

Last time I looked, Obeid wasn't a Liberal.

John S wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 7:41am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years

NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more...

get your facts right sunshine.

Kat wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 8:52am:

cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:49am: Kat wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:54am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:34am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit. Follow the money-trail, and you'll likely find that a Lib benefactor owns the land, or something similar. n ononononono  that OBEID>.. Last time I looked, Obeid wasn't a Liberal.

NO thank god hes all yours along with the great list of corrupt that labor has to its credit..

you talk about owning land.. and that what OBEID did very well after robbing farmers of their land...OBEID you remember him dont you???????? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

he would rob his own mother I am sure.

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 8:54am:

John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine.

Wasn't it Tony Abbott who said that it was the oppositions job to oppose the govts agenda?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 7:34am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit.

Ask yourself the same of the NBN...

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 8:56am:

cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. Wasn't it Tony Abbott who said that it was the oppositions job to oppose the govts agenda?

No, he said the job of the Opposition was to oppose bad policy and facilitate good policy. It's not his fault that the previous Labor govt was a good-policy-free-zone!

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 8:56am:

cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. Wasn't it Tony Abbott who said that it was the oppositions job to oppose the govts agenda?

"Oppositions are not there to get legislation through. Oppositions are there to hold the government to account. And unless we are confident that a piece of legislation is beyond reasonable doubt in the national interest, it is our duty as the Opposition to vote it down"

-Tony Abbott

http://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2013/july/1372600800/waleed-aly/inside-tony-abbotts-mind

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:10am:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:56am: cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. Wasn't it Tony Abbott who said that it was the oppositions job to oppose the govts agenda? No, he said the job of the Opposition was to oppose bad policy and facilitate good policy. It's not his fault that the previous Labor govt was a good-policy-free-zone!

So what are you complaining about?..Coz thats what Labor is doing  :P

John S wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 7:41am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years

If you check the records, you'll find the Coalition said yes far more often than they said no. I can see why you'd think otherwise because the decisions that involved a no vote were usually the bigger bills where Labor stuffed up big-time.

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:12am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:10am: adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:56am: cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. Wasn't it Tony Abbott who said that it was the oppositions job to oppose the govts agenda? No, he said the job of the Opposition was to oppose bad policy and facilitate good policy. It's not his fault that the previous Labor govt was a good-policy-free-zone! So what are you complaining about?..Coz thats what Labor is doing  :P

Labor's still a policy-free-zone, with nothing on offer but spite and anti-Abbott rhetoric.

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:12am:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:56am: cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. Wasn't it Tony Abbott who said that it was the oppositions job to oppose the govts agenda? "Oppositions are not there to get legislation through. Oppositions are there to hold the government to account. And unless we are confident that a piece of legislation is beyond reasonable doubt in the national interest, it is our duty as the Opposition to vote it down" -Tony Abbott http://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2013/july/1372600800/waleed-aly/inside-tony-abbotts-mind

And that's what the Coalition did. Records will show they said yes far more often than they said no. It seems otherwise because the no votes attracted more media attention.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 5:24am:

When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office?

when will you realise, that being in office doesn't automatically mean you get carte blanche over everything you do ....

you do understand how politics works don't you?

John Smith wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:17am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? when will you realise, that being in office doesn't automatically mean you get carte blanche over everything you do .... you do understand how politics works don't you?

I do, but clearly you and Short-On-Brains doesn't! ;D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years If you check the records, you'll find the Coalition said yes far more often than they said no. I can see why you'd think otherwise because the decisions that involved a no vote were usually the bigger bills where Labor stuffed up big-time.

and if you check the records you'll find that over the last 9 months labor has voted yes more often than not  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:18am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:17am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? when will you realise, that being in office doesn't automatically mean you get carte blanche over everything you do .... you do understand how politics works don't you? I do, but clearly you and Short-On-Brains doesn't! ;D

and yet your the one b1tching ..... does that mean you have even less brains than Shorten  :D :D :D

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 8:54am:

John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine.

All the legislation was pass by a minority government in the lower house, so the government had to negotiate with the independents to get it pass in the HoR then it pass in the senate with the greens supporting it.

So it had nothing to do with the liberal party.

If the liberal supporting the legislation back then why are they repealing it all now or not funding it at all.


So you get your facts right sunshine.

Abbott has every right to get policy passed that he didn't lie about and that he went to the election promising but we all know that most of what he has before the parliament was not taken to the Australian people or are lies.

John S wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:19am:

cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. All the legislation was pass by a minority government in the lower house, so the government had to negotiate with the independents to get it pass in the HoR then it pass in the senate with the greens supporting it. So it had nothing to do with the liberal party. If the liberal supporting the legislation back then why are they repealing it all now or not funding it at all. So you get your facts right sunshine.

The Coalition never supported the carbon or mining taxes.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:23am:

John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:19am: cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. All the legislation was pass by a minority government in the lower house, so the government had to negotiate with the independents to get it pass in the HoR then it pass in the senate with the greens supporting it. So it had nothing to do with the liberal party. If the liberal supporting the legislation back then why are they repealing it all now or not funding it at all. So you get your facts right sunshine. The Coalition never supported the carbon or mining taxes.

Thats not quite true because it was Howard who came up with the original carbon tax..the ETS.
And the Libs supported the ETS both parties went to the 2007 election proposing but pulled support when Andrew Robb escaped from the insane asylum he was banged up in and decided to install Abbott as leader.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:23am:

John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:19am: cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. All the legislation was pass by a minority government in the lower house, so the government had to negotiate with the independents to get it pass in the HoR then it pass in the senate with the greens supporting it. So it had nothing to do with the liberal party. If the liberal supporting the legislation back then why are they repealing it all now or not funding it at all. So you get your facts right sunshine. The Coalition never supported the carbon or mining taxes.

the coalition didn't support anything that made the headlines ..... it was all the mundane housekeeping stuff, which is the majority of bills, that they supported

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:16am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:12am: adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:56am: cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. Wasn't it Tony Abbott who said that it was the oppositions job to oppose the govts agenda? "Oppositions are not there to get legislation through. Oppositions are there to hold the government to account. And unless we are confident that a piece of legislation is beyond reasonable doubt in the national interest, it is our duty as the Opposition to vote it down" -Tony Abbott http://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2013/july/1372600800/waleed-aly/inside-tony-abbotts-mind And that's what the Coalition did. Records will show they said yes far more often than they said no. It seems otherwise because the no votes attracted more media attention.

These bills are known as "housekeeping"
They apply to public servants being paid, etc.



Abbott blocked ( ... or delayed) pretty much every policy and reform Labor took to the election

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:22am:

Abbott has every right to get policy passed that he didn't lie about and that he went to the election promising but we all know that most of what he has before the parliament was not taken to the Australian people or are lies.

Not actually true. He has no "right". The only mandate comes from numbers, you have them, or you don't.

Kytro wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:35am:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:22am: Abbott has every right to get policy passed that he didn't lie about and that he went to the election promising but we all know that most of what he has before the parliament was not taken to the Australian people or are lies. Not actually true. He has no "right". The only mandate comes from numbers, you have them, or you don't.

I should have said "From my point of view..blah blah blah"  :P

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:14am:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:12am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:10am: adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:56am: cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. Wasn't it Tony Abbott who said that it was the oppositions job to oppose the govts agenda? No, he said the job of the Opposition was to oppose bad policy and facilitate good policy. It's not his fault that the previous Labor govt was a good-policy-free-zone! So what are you complaining about?..Coz thats what Labor is doing  :P Labor's still a policy-free-zone, with nothing on offer but spite and anti-Abbott rhetoric.

And thats how it will stay until the front bench is changed

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:39am:

Kytro wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:35am: adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:22am: Abbott has every right to get policy passed that he didn't lie about and that he went to the election promising but we all know that most of what he has before the parliament was not taken to the Australian people or are lies. Not actually true. He has no "right". The only mandate comes from numbers, you have them, or you don't. I should have said "From my point of view..blah blah blah"  :P

I guess, but in the end numbers are all that matters. I have never liked the mandates argument, no matter who is using it because the same applies to every elected official. They have a mandate to pursue because they were elected as well.

adelcrow wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:29am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:23am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:19am: cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. All the legislation was pass by a minority government in the lower house, so the government had to negotiate with the independents to get it pass in the HoR then it pass in the senate with the greens supporting it. So it had nothing to do with the liberal party. If the liberal supporting the legislation back then why are they repealing it all now or not funding it at all. So you get your facts right sunshine. The Coalition never supported the carbon or mining taxes. Thats not quite true because it was Howard who came up with the original carbon tax..the ETS. And the Libs supported the ETS both parties went to the 2007 election proposing but pulled support when Andrew Robb escaped from the insane asylum he was banged up in and decided to install Abbott as leader.

Obviously I was referring to the Abbott-lead Opposition.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:08am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:34am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit. Ask yourself the same of the NBN...

Scoring an own goal again armpit? 

labor are corrupt wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 10:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:14am: adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:12am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:10am: adelcrow wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:56am: cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:54am: John S wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Do you want the opposition to get out of the way the same way the last opposition got out of the way for the last 6 years. The last opposition said no to anything and everything for the last 6 years NO THEY DID NOT>.. something like 85% of legislation was passed....maybe even more... get your facts right sunshine. Wasn't it Tony Abbott who said that it was the oppositions job to oppose the govts agenda? No, he said the job of the Opposition was to oppose bad policy and facilitate good policy. It's not his fault that the previous Labor govt was a good-policy-free-zone! So what are you complaining about?..Coz thats what Labor is doing  :P Labor's still a policy-free-zone, with nothing on offer but spite and anti-Abbott rhetoric. And thats how it will stay until the front bench is changed

Are you two competing to see who can be the dumbest?

Because it sure seems like it...

Quote:

. The government claimed its new infrastructure bill would allow fast-tracking of road projects for Western Sydney by allowing the government to make decisions on infrastructure without being "impeded by bureaucracy"

meaning ...


The government claimed its new infrastructure bill would allow fast-tracking of road projects for Western Sydney by allowing the government to make decisions on infrastructure without being scrutinised on environmental impact

What budgetary measures did the Coalition force or attempt to force changes to in the Labor Government?

lee wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

What budgetary measures did the Coalition force or attempt to force changes to in the Labor Government?

Means-testing the Medicare rebate, for one.

Even the righties who wouldn't have come near to being affected screamed like stuck pigs.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:08am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:34am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit. Ask yourself the same of the NBN... Scoring an own goal again armpit?

I don't see how - there WAS no CBA done on the NBN.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 12:22pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:08am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:34am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit. Ask yourself the same of the NBN... Scoring an own goal again armpit?  I don't see how - there WAS no CBA done on the NBN.

so why would a party that was SO adament about CBA done on any government project now trying to pass legislation that allows them to ignore CBA on their infrastructure projects?

Sounds like you were scoring an own goal :) 

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 12:22pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:08am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 7:34am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? Why doesn't the government wish for cost benefit analysis, armpit?  Why do they want to avoid environmental impact studies, armpit?  Something smells fishy, armpit. Ask yourself the same of the NBN... Scoring an own goal again armpit?  I don't see how - there WAS no CBA done on the NBN.

and the libs bitched and moaned about a lack of CBA for years .... and now they want to skip the CBA?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Kat wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

Means-testing the Medicare rebate, for one.

If it was so good how come the Greens were so opposed?

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 8:51am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? they lurvvvvvvv red tap....they have shares in the red tap industry... what idiots.. and they talk about the libs being one eyed when it comes to the future.. of course we can see through these pretend politicians.. who are there very much for their own benefit and not ours....milne she gets uglier every time I see her so bitter looking..and shortarse.. looks more and more like a rabbit caught in the headlights....pathetic.

Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

lee wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 5:50pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 2:47pm: Means-testing the Medicare rebate, for one. If it was so good how come the Greens were so opposed?

Irrelevant.

Enquiring mind wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 6:19pm:

cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:51am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? they lurvvvvvvv red tap....they have shares in the red tap industry... what idiots.. and they talk about the libs being one eyed when it comes to the future.. of course we can see through these pretend politicians.. who are there very much for their own benefit and not ours....milne she gets uglier every time I see her so bitter looking..and shortarse.. looks more and more like a rabbit caught in the headlights....pathetic. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

WTF is 'red tap' and what does it have to do with political parties?

Vic wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 7:18pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 6:19pm: cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:51am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:24am: When will you realise, Shorty, that you and that turd Milne are no longer the ones in office? they lurvvvvvvv red tap....they have shares in the red tap industry... what idiots.. and they talk about the libs being one eyed when it comes to the future.. of course we can see through these pretend politicians.. who are there very much for their own benefit and not ours....milne she gets uglier every time I see her so bitter looking..and shortarse.. looks more and more like a rabbit caught in the headlights....pathetic. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic. WTF is 'red tap' and what does it have to do with political parties?

she doesn't drink her plonk from the bottle anymore, it was costing too much

she now has it on tap ... Red for red, white for white ..... tonight it's obviously the red, most likely a pinot noir