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Title: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by imcrookonit on May 25th, 2014 at 7:18am
Facebook lights up over suggestion Tasmanians should leave to find work
NICK CLARK Mercury May 24, 2014 TASMANIANS have reacted swiftly and strongly to Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s suggestion that young unemployed people should move if they can’t find a job in Tasmania. The Mercury’s Facebook site and website were inundated with comments opposed to Mr Abbott’s statement in Hobart this week, that moving out of the state would not be the “worst outcome in the world’’. “People came to Tasmania in order to better their lives. So, I don’t think we should be necessarily heartbroken just because some people choose to move,” he said. The story on Facebook attracted almost 100,000 views. State Growth Minister Matthew Groom denied Mr Abbott’s comments were at odds with the State Government’s policy to expand the population to 650,000 by 2050. He said part of the policy to expand the economy was to attract people to the State. “We think it’s important to have ambition to grow the Tasmanian economy and growing our population is a big part of that,” he said. Youth Network of Tasmania chief executive Joanna Seijka said Mr Abbott’s comments failed to recognise the reality of the plight faced by many young Tasmanians. “Our young people need support, not to be forced to move from the State,” Ms Seijka said. :( “There is a very real risk that if things don’t go well – if there isn’t a job for them at the other end or if that job isn’t sustainable – then young people will be on the downward spiral to poverty and homelessness.” A member of the Mercury and Sunday Tasmanian’s Our Kids: Our Future campaign, Scott Cullen, 24, said he was not considering moving interstate to find work. “There are moving costs and trying to find somewhere to live,” he said. “If you can’t get a job you can’t live anywhere.” :( Mr Cullen, of Claremont, said he had done two courses – in traffic control and construction – but had not worked since last year. University of Tasmania School of Social Sciences lecturer Brendan Churchill said Mr Abbott’s comments were a distraction from the issue of what the Government was going to do to create employment. “The Government needs to do more than say ‘just move somewhere else’,” he said. ;) Brotherhood of St Laurence senior manager of Youth Programs Sally James said many young people did not have employment skills and would be wasting time if they relocated. Labor Senator Carol Brown said Mr Abbott should apologise to young Tasmanian jobseekers for suggesting they should leave to find a job. “Tasmania has some of the highest youth unemployment in Australia and the solution isn’t shipping our best and brightest young people off the island,” she said. :( Employment Minister Eric Abetz said Tasmanians could not expect their fellow Australians to pay them to stay at home when there were suitable job opportunities for them elsewhere in Australia. “As we know, there have been many harvesting jobs go begging in Tasmania, which have been taken up by people that have travelled from the other side of the world,” he said. “More recently a delegation has gone to New Zealand to find farm workers at a time when we have the highest rate of unemployment.” |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by imcrookonit on May 25th, 2014 at 8:59am
Our young people need support, not to be forced to move from the State,” Ms Seijka said. :(
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by Dame Pansi on May 25th, 2014 at 9:13am I can't see the point, unless there's a swag of vacant positions and affordable accommodation somewhere, and we all know that's not the case. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by Peter Freedman on May 25th, 2014 at 9:24am
Onya Tone just can't help himself, can he?
He just inserts himself up so many noses, he is starting to look like a hankie. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by gizmo_2655 on May 25th, 2014 at 9:37am
Ahh yes that's the spirit that made this country great...
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by Phemanderac on May 25th, 2014 at 10:05am
Look it is all a mistake and taken out of context.
What he meant was, move interstate so that while you are not working you can enjoy high speed internet in some locations. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by imcrookonit on May 25th, 2014 at 10:08am
“There are moving costs and trying to find somewhere to live,” he said. “If you can’t get a job you can’t live anywhere.” :(
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by gizmo_2655 on May 25th, 2014 at 10:10am wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:08am:
Tell that to all the fly in fly out workers at the mines. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by philperth2010 on May 25th, 2014 at 10:11am
How will they live without a job and without unemployment benefits.....Perhaps Abbott and Hockey should have budgeted for more park benches to accommodate these whingers???
:-? :-? :-? |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by imcrookonit on May 25th, 2014 at 10:12am
Yes for some of the miners that may be so. Of course not everyone is a miner though. :(
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by gizmo_2655 on May 25th, 2014 at 10:13am philperth2010 wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:11am:
Or maybe that can start a cottage industry, like making placards for all the protesters?? |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by gizmo_2655 on May 25th, 2014 at 10:14am wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:12am:
And not everyone working at the mines is a miner either...truck drivers, cooks, office staff, hospitality staff. The list is endless. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by John Smith on May 25th, 2014 at 10:14am gizmo_2655 wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:13am:
so you don't know either? You should have just said so instead of making dumb comments |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by Phemanderac on May 25th, 2014 at 10:15am gizmo_2655 wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:13am:
Seriously? Then we would have underemployment as our issue. There are not enough unemployed people available to service that industry and, with this mob, it might be the only growth industry that we can rely on. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by Dame Pansi on May 25th, 2014 at 10:15am wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:08am:
And if you haven't got accommodation, you won't get a job. Try putting "no known address' on your job application and see how far you'll get. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by Redmond Neck on May 25th, 2014 at 10:16am Peter Freedman wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 9:24am:
He is more like the snot in my opinion! ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by adelcrow on May 25th, 2014 at 10:17am
To be fair..Abbott traveled to OXFORD (for free) to further his education ;D
Now I hear that Eric Abetz is suggesting that fellow Tasmanians move to NZ to get work. I assume because he knows that there will be no job growth in Australia while his mob is in charge ;D |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by John Smith on May 25th, 2014 at 10:17am gizmo_2655 wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:14am:
you tried getting one of those jobs? you know what the cost of living is in mining towns? |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by adelcrow on May 25th, 2014 at 10:19am John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:17am:
I'll think you'll find that Tony will do Ginas bidding and replace Aussie mine workers with Filipinos on 457 visas. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by gizmo_2655 on May 25th, 2014 at 10:27am John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:17am:
Which is why I mentioned fly in/fly out. Accommodation is supplied for those workers. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by chicken_lipsforme on May 25th, 2014 at 10:32am wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 7:18am:
Another non issue. Young people have been leaving country towns for decades going to larger regional cities to find employment so the thought is nothing new. A few years back when I was looking at moving to Tassie, when looking for work on Seek I discovered there was more available work in Townsville than in all of Tasmania and nothing since has changed. Abbott's common sense approach does not appeal to some it seems, perhaps a few more young Taswegians could make a guest appearance on Bogan Hunters instead. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by philperth2010 on May 25th, 2014 at 10:38am chicken_lipsforme wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:32am:
Yes but back then you had income support to fund your move.....How do young people fund the move away from family support whilst they have no income??? :-? :-? :-? |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by gizmo_2655 on May 25th, 2014 at 10:44am philperth2010 wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:38am:
Get the job first, stay in a hostel/caravan/pub until they can find something more permanent. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by chicken_lipsforme on May 25th, 2014 at 10:57am philperth2010 wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:38am:
Just the same way young people have been moving out of the family cave for thousands of years. It has been done before you know. |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by philperth2010 on May 25th, 2014 at 11:00am chicken_lipsforme wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:57am:
Yet in the modern world transport and accommodation are not cheap.....I did not see anything in the budget for the construction of caves did you??? :-? :-? :-? |
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Title: Re: Fury At PM Over The Jobs Comment. Post by chicken_lipsforme on May 25th, 2014 at 11:39am philperth2010 wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 11:00am:
Transport and accommodation have never been cheap. Yet young people have always found a way to leave the nest. |
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