http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-29/grocon-charged-over-fatal-wall-collapse-in-melbourne/5417036



Police investigators also told the court they wanted to obtain an engineering survey from Grocon, which the company said was not relevant and refused to surrender.

Victorian Coroner Judge Ian Gray said he wanted to see the survey irrespective of its perceived relevance, and said it should be made available to the inquest.

The inquest was initially scheduled for June 2014, but has since been delayed and has no fixed date scheduled.

Grocon - Usual Suspect champion of WorkChoices etc and Union bashing.... finally meets it maker...

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 5:57pm:

Grocon - Usual Suspect champion of WorkChoices etc and Union bashing.... finally meets it maker...

Maybe the 'Terms of Reference' of Abbott's RC should be expanded.....

Just sayin'....

;)

someone did compare the Royal into the Unions and Grocon...

the royal is a witch hunt though..


is this a witch hunt now?... :(

its interesting as the Royal is about BRIBES...and yes I am sure the Big Business end  will be scrutinised.... after all they PAID the man didnt they?

cant have one without the other.

Thiess comes to mind.

I did rather wonder how you could investigate corruption by looking exclusively at only one side?

       Takes two to Tango :o

austranger wrote on May 2^nd, 2014 at 9:38am:

I did rather wonder how you could investigate corruption by looking exclusively at only one side?        Takes two to Tango :o

is it corrupt to OFFER a bribe or to take the bribe...

what is the difference in freebee holidays..bottles of wine...or any other little gifties...obviously the unions wouldnt be interested in a bottle of wine...

but wht is the difference??..

someone gets a free week end in someone chalet or whatever....is that a bribe??>.....

cods wrote on May 2^nd, 2014 at 11:02am:

austranger wrote on May 2nd, 2014 at 9:38am: I did rather wonder how you could investigate corruption by looking exclusively at only one side?        Takes two to Tango :o is it corrupt to OFFER a bribe or to take the bribe... what is the difference in freebee holidays..bottles of wine...or any other little gifties...obviously the unions wouldnt be interested in a bottle of wine... but wht is the difference??.. someone gets a free week end in someone chalet or whatever....is that a bribe??>.....

         Bearing in mind that I'm fully aware of and in complete agreement with the fact that bribery etc does NOT sit well within our Western morality or ethics, it is interesting to note that the concept of "Baksheesh", (greasing the wheels of business etc), has been largely the socially accepted norm in most societies across most of recorded history, isn't it?  8-)

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austranger wrote on May 2^nd, 2014 at 11:31am:

cods wrote on May 2nd, 2014 at 11:02am: austranger wrote on May 2nd, 2014 at 9:38am: I did rather wonder how you could investigate corruption by looking exclusively at only one side?        Takes two to Tango :o is it corrupt to OFFER a bribe or to take the bribe... what is the difference in freebee holidays..bottles of wine...or any other little gifties...obviously the unions wouldnt be interested in a bottle of wine... but wht is the difference??.. someone gets a free week end in someone chalet or whatever....is that a bribe??>.....          Bearing in mind that I'm fully aware of and in complete agreement with the fact that bribery etc does NOT sit well within our Western morality or ethics, it is interesting to note that the concept of "Baksheesh", (greasing the wheels of business etc), has been largely the socially accepted norm in most societies across most of recorded history, isn't it?  8-)

you could say that...but it wasnt something I was brought up with....I think and I will be slammed for this but I think its a Mediterranean  thing

by that I mean part of the culture..... its not a crime to offer a policeman a bribe its expected..sort of thing..

cods wrote on May 2^nd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

austranger wrote on May 2nd, 2014 at 11:31am: cods wrote on May 2nd, 2014 at 11:02am: austranger wrote on May 2nd, 2014 at 9:38am: I did rather wonder how you could investigate corruption by looking exclusively at only one side?        Takes two to Tango :o is it corrupt to OFFER a bribe or to take the bribe... what is the difference in freebee holidays..bottles of wine...or any other little gifties...obviously the unions wouldnt be interested in a bottle of wine... but wht is the difference??.. someone gets a free week end in someone chalet or whatever....is that a bribe??>.....          Bearing in mind that I'm fully aware of and in complete agreement with the fact that bribery etc does NOT sit well within our Western morality or ethics, it is interesting to note that the concept of "Baksheesh", (greasing the wheels of business etc), has been largely the socially accepted norm in most societies across most of recorded history, isn't it?  8-) you could say that...but it wasnt something I was brought up with....I think and I will be slammed for this but I think its a Mediterranean  thing by that I mean part of the culture..... its not a crime to offer a policeman a bribe its expected..sort of thing..

It's hardly confined to the Middle Ocean, think all of the east, from the shores of the Med' to the Bering Straight and Zanzibar, from the Arctic to Terra del Fuego, only modern Western civilisation has resisted it, or even seen anything wrong with it.