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Title: islamics in australia Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 18th, 2014 at 6:01pm Quote:
tbc |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 18th, 2014 at 6:06pm Quote:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/emotions-run-high-for-australias-muslim-youth-risking-all-to-fight-in-the-syrian-war-20131206-2ywof.html |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Sparky on Apr 18th, 2014 at 6:12pm
At least we get rid of these people for good.
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Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Yadda on Apr 18th, 2014 at 6:58pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 18th, 2014 at 6:06pm:
That is always 'the line' from the moslem community [wherever]. This LIE, this blatant FALSEHOOD, is spoken so as to engender sympathy and respect towards the 'typically' 'noble' and 'altruistic' 'moslem man', among those who are observing the moslem community - from the outside. But the truth is that the moslem community are, yet again, simply playing their deceitful game - with us. The moslem camp always, projects the perception [to those who are not moslems], that moslems must truly be virtuous people. "Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders." Ishaq:231 Villawood Detention Centre fires under control, Yadda wrote on Apr 21st, 2011 at 1:47pm:
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Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2014 at 9:17pm
we should be subsidising their airfares back there.
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Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Yadda on Apr 19th, 2014 at 12:56am ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2014 at 9:17pm:
What ? Moslems generally, so as to encourage moslems to leave Australia ? Bugger that! [....and i suggest that you enquire if Karnal will assist you, in that] AN ALTERNATIVE; We [Australians] should have a serious conversation, among ourselves, about, and exploring, what ISLAM is, and examining and truthfully scrutinising what it is, that ISLAM is promoting and encouraging in the world. Then, subsequent to that conversation, among ourselves, hopefully [ha ha ha!] our national community could come to a national agreement that ISLAM and the societal 'values' which ISLAM promotes, are NOT compatible with the societal values that the majority of we Australians aspire to [...e.g. political freedom, and a political system which stresses the importance of political truth, and the importance of a functioning justice system [based upon truthful and fearless scrutiny] ]. And thereafter, we should seek to have our politicians bring forward legislation in our Australian parliament, to proscribe [ban] the membership of any ISLAMIC group - within Australia. 'Moslems' who are in Australia, and who are willing to publicly renounce ISLAM, can stay, and remain in Australia. OR, if they are unwilling to renounce ISLAM, moslems can arrange to leave Australia, under their own steam. And there should be serious penalties [e.g. decades in a remote desert goal, and subsequent expulsion from Australia], for any persons who trespass against such laws [those laws which declare ISLAM to be a proscribed group] and are members of an underground ISLAMIC group, within Australia. Why so ? Why put such onerous encumbrances upon persons who desire to be 'moslems' - within Australia ? #1, I for one, do not like ISLAM! And if some persons, 1/ want to embrace ISLAM, and 2/ want to be moslems, and 3/ want to 'practise' ISLAM, ...then those persons can do it in another country [as far as possible away from me and mine], as far as i am concerned! #2, And another reason, as stated above, imo, ISLAM and the societal 'values' which ISLAM promotes, are totally incompatible with the 'societal values' that the majority of we Australians, aspire to. #3, In a modern world sense, ISLAM can be defined, essentially, as a vicious, evil, fascist political philosophy. ISLAM is a political philosophy which [it can be demonstrated!] uses common age-old political 'mechanisms' [like lying, deception, intimidation, and extreme violence], in seeking to pursue its [ISLAM's] political aims. And in the area of 'deception', where moslems are resident in Western nations, moslems are using their community 'status', as members of a religion, as a shield [and as a cloak] which moslems cynically use, to protect themselves [and their community], from legitimate scrutiny and legitimate censure by outside organisations and individuals. IMO, ISLAM is an extremely deceitful and extremely violent political philosophy, .....which is masquerading as a justice based religion. +++ Am i mistaken, about ISLAM, and moslems ? Prove me wrong. +++ What type of conduct - principally - does ISLAM promote and encourage in the world ? 'Read it and weep!'........... "....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith." Koran 2.98 "....those who reject Allah have no protector." Koran 47.008 v. 8-11 "Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Koran 2.216 "O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)." Koran 9.123 "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...." Koran 9.111 "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. " Koran 9.29 |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 19th, 2014 at 10:51am ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2014 at 9:17pm:
Good idea. A one way trip, the tax payer would be ok with that. Any 'disaffected' muzzie can go too. One way, no backsies. |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by moses on Apr 19th, 2014 at 4:37pm
I love the last bit:
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I wonder what they would make of the following hadi'th and the official islamic explanation? Quote:
It's very clear that muhammad told muslims that islam is a religion solely of jihad, you leave jihad you leave islam. |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by True Colours on Apr 19th, 2014 at 7:12pm
These Muslims helping to liberate oppressed people around the world...perhaps they should be more like Christians - funding dictators and building weapons of mass destruction?
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Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Yadda on Apr 19th, 2014 at 7:21pm True Colours wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 7:12pm:
Weak. Is that the best argument ya got! :) |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Soren on Apr 19th, 2014 at 8:44pm True Colours wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 7:12pm:
Pound for pound, Islam is the champion of oppression. I can't think of one single Islamic jurisdiction that is not oppressive. Islam (Submission) is by definition authoritarian and dictatorial. It is THE opposite of freedom. It is prescriptive of every aspect of life. Freedom and Islam are contradictions. |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Dame Karnal on Apr 19th, 2014 at 9:10pm Soren wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 8:44pm:
And you’ve never thought of signing up, old boy? Shurely shome mishtake. Don’t worry, dear. I have a feeling the application’s in the post. |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by True Colours on Apr 20th, 2014 at 1:02am Soren wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 8:44pm:
So exactly which 'Islamic jurisdiction' are you talking about? Can you tell us exactly which country is run by Islamic law? I have travelled to many Muslim-majority countries but am yet to find one in this day and age that is run by Islamic law. I lived for a while in the world's biggest Muslim country, and felt freer there than I did in Australia. Speaking of oppression let's remind ourselves of John Howard's sedition laws: Quote:
So it is illegal in Australia to say anything is wrong with the Queen, the government, the constitution, or the system of government. Go freedom! :D |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Yadda on Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:56am True Colours wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 1:02am:
The Problem of Evil http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1304541795/87#87 Quote:
Perhaps it is Pakistan ??? The name Pakistan means, "Land of the Pure" Google; Pakistan, Land of the Pure Quote:
" 'Aussie Fritzl' emerges" http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1253145391/2#2 Pakistan a moslem majority jurisdiction. Pakistan, the "Land of the Pure" Pakistan, the "Land of the Pure" Pakistan, the "Land of the Pure" Pakistan, the "Land of the Pure" ....a land which out-shines Saudi Arabia, in the religious purity of its people!! Honest! |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by True Colours on Apr 20th, 2014 at 10:16am Yadda wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:56am:
Yes Yadda it is Pakistan; not Islamistan created by Britain in an attempt to confound Muslims in the Indian sub-continent. Quote:
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Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Yadda on Apr 20th, 2014 at 10:46am Soren wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 8:44pm:
No argument. Islam Is What Happens When Civilization Loses http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2014/04/islam-is-what-happens-when-civilization.html What environment [among a society of men] is first required, for peace and prosperity to flourish ?..... Why Nations Fail http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394832229/148#148 |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Yadda on Apr 20th, 2014 at 11:10am True Colours wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 10:16am:
True_Colours, You are a disgrace. What! .....are you [PUBLICLY] ashamed of your religion, True_Colours ? Or, are you [SECRETLY] proud, of how your religion lawfully persecutes those who are not moslems ? "....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends.... ......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them." Koran 5.51 "....those who reject Allah have no protector." Koran 47.008 v. 8-11 Google; islam, blasphemy law, pakistan Google; pakistan, blasphemy law, weapon against christians Google; blasphemy law used against religious minorities, Pakistan Mobs of moslems, in Pakistan, routinely and frequently, murder non-moslem individuals [in a local community] who have been [often falsely] accused of blasphemy against ISLAM. |
Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by True Colours on Apr 20th, 2014 at 12:30pm Yadda wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 11:10am:
Having a blasphemy law does not make Pakistan an Islamic state. It is still a fact that Pakistan is ruled according to the British common law system. The blasphemy laws was pushed through by Zia al-Haq who was primarily a capitalist and not religious. His introduction of the laws were a cynical ploy to win support for his anti-communist campaign. He said himself regarding the introduction of the laws: "We are going back to Islam not by choice but by the force of circumstances." The manner in which Zia had the laws implemented was not Islamic, and they were wrought by extremist elements that Zia al-Haq was courting in his anti-communism crusade - not by the moderate majority of Muslims. The fact is that the core and base of the Pakistani government and legal system is British common law. Think of it like this: if North Korea suddenly made a blasphemy law but the rest of the system stayed the same would you not still consider it a communist state? A blasphemy law does not make an Islamic state. Australia has blasphemy laws - is Australia an Islamic state? For example: Quote:
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Title: Re: islamics in australia Post by Soren on Apr 20th, 2014 at 4:09pm True Colours wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 1:02am:
Yeah, sorry, I forgot - Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin' in Muslim countries. |
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