Over 80 cases and 59 dead in the latest out break in Guinea.

All the more reason to smash the people smuggling trade and ensure those that are settled in Australia are vetted and invited.

have they contained it do you know... I believe its an airborn virus..as we eradicate one another takes its place.

So when are the conservatives going to stop the economic migrants who come by plane and then claim  refugee status ... the ones that Abbott let stay on mainland Australia?

The ones with forged passports and paperwork.

____ wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 9:14am:

So when are the conservatives going to stop the economic migrants who come by plane and then claim  refugee status ... the ones that Abbott let stay on mainland Australia? The ones with forged passports and paperwork.

Abbott!! Just go away will you, you want to start your own retarded thread be my guest.

This is about the potential to unleash deadly viruses due to uninvited people supporting the people smuggling trade.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 9:20am:

____ wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 9:14am: So when are the conservatives going to stop the economic migrants who come by plane and then claim  refugee status ... the ones that Abbott let stay on mainland Australia? The ones with forged passports and paperwork. Abbott!! Just go away will you, you want to start your own retarded thread be my guest. This is about the potential to unleash deadly viruses due to uninvited people supporting the people smuggling trade.

in other words the Green Party... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

thats an even worse virus.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 9:20am:

____ wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 9:14am: So when are the conservatives going to stop the economic migrants who come by plane and then claim  refugee status ... the ones that Abbott let stay on mainland Australia? The ones with forged passports and paperwork. Abbott!! Just go away will you, you want to start your own retarded thread be my guest. This is about the potential to unleash deadly viruses due to uninvited people supporting the people smuggling trade.

Ebola doesn't differentiate between those that you want to dehumanise and those that you want to ignore so to support your unbalanced view.

Ebola can spread to Australia and most likely path is via people traveling by plane,.

With this you almost attain the name of biscuit from me, others already use that but I like to give the benefit of doubt.


Quote:

Signs and symptoms EHF is a severe acute viral illness often characterized by the sudden onset of fever, intense weakness, muscle pain, headache and sore throat. This is followed by vomiting, diarrhoea, rash, impaired kidney and liver function, and in some cases, both internal and external bleeding. Laboratory findings show low counts of white blood cells and platelets as well as elevated liver enzymes. People are infectious as long as their blood and secretions contain the virus. Ebola virus was isolated from seminal fluid up to the 61st day after the onset of illness in a laboratory acquired case. The incubation period (interval from infection to onset of symptoms) varies between 2 to 21 days.

So your saying people are going to fly from West/Central Africa, find & enter a contract with smugglers & then travel by boat to mainland Australia all within 3 weeks??

Sensationalist drivel

Did you listen to Ray this morning & pick up a case of the "Dumb Sheeple"?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 9:47am:

With this you almost attain the name of biscuit from me, others already use that but I like to give the benefit of doubt. Quote: Signs and symptoms EHF is a severe acute viral illness often characterized by the sudden onset of fever, intense weakness, muscle pain, headache and sore throat. This is followed by vomiting, diarrhoea, rash, impaired kidney and liver function, and in some cases, both internal and external bleeding. Laboratory findings show low counts of white blood cells and platelets as well as elevated liver enzymes. People are infectious as long as their blood and secretions contain the virus. Ebola virus was isolated from seminal fluid up to the 61st day after the onset of illness in a laboratory acquired case. The incubation period (interval from infection to onset of symptoms) varies between 2 to 21 days. So your saying people are going to fly from West/Central Africa, find & enter a contract with smugglers & then travel by boat to mainland Australia all within 3 weeks?? Sensationalist drivel Did you listen to Ray this morning & pick up a case of the "Dumb Sheeple"?

Who is Ray?

Awwwww you gunna become a one trick stem head, good for you. I couldn't give a bugger about your benefit of the doubt.

It's in the paper, and has the potential to be a massive threat IMO. Along with other diseases not common in OZ.

People get infected - 2 weeks later they infect someone else, who in turn.....etc etc - it's not always about the individual carrier.

Just another reason to stop uninvited arrivals in OZ.

Ebola is not airborne. Any person arriving by boat here with Ebola is either going to die before they get here or recover and not be able to pass it on.

Using possibility of passing disease on as an argument against boat people is just smacking stupid given the prevalence of air travel. Talk to epidemiologists they arent worried about boat refugees, they are worried about planes.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:00am:

It's in the paper, and has the potential to be a massive threat IMO. Along with other diseases not common in OZ.

What paper?????

It is improbable to say least, impossible for a person smuggled & the only way it will happen is as has been pointed out an aircraft arrival direct.

Grow a brain

____ wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 9:34am:

Ebola doesn't differentiate between those that you want to dehumanise and those that you want to ignore so to support your unbalanced view. Ebola can spread to Australia and most likely path is via people traveling by plane,.

Which of the following is a more effective route for spreading infectious diseases?
(1) someone with an infectious disease travels over land from the source of the outbreak to Australia over a month or two
(2) someone with an infectious disease travels by air from the source of the outbreak to Australia over a day or two

The answer is 2.

Disease outbreaks spread by plane are by far the most common way that infectious diseases enter Australia. The length of time it takes someone to fly by plane from many countries to Australia is shorter than the incubation time for most diseases.

Parasites are also spread most effectively by plane. It's why bedbugs are now being seen all over the world in places from where they were eradicated decades ago.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:00am: It's in the paper, and has the potential to be a massive threat IMO. Along with other diseases not common in OZ. What paper????? It is improbable to say least, impossible for a person smuggled & the only way it will happen is as has been pointed out an aircraft arrival direct. Grow a brain

DAKAR, March 24 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Scientists tackling an outbreak of Ebola in Guinea believe they have identified the virus as the Zaire strain, the most lethal of all...



Oh well excuse me for having an opinion.

Ok it can never ever happen then, all good the smacking experts have spoken.

Because viruses never mutate, they never change, they act the same way for ever and ever. Smacking obtuse, that's what i call you.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:05am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:00am: It's in the paper, and has the potential to be a massive threat IMO. Along with other diseases not common in OZ. What paper????? It is improbable to say least, impossible for a person smuggled & the only way it will happen is as has been pointed out an aircraft arrival direct. Grow a brain DAKAR, March 24 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Scientists tackling an outbreak of Ebola in Guinea believe they have identified the virus as the Zaire strain, the most lethal of all... Oh well excuse me for having an opinion. Ok it can never ever happen then, all good the smacking experts have spoken. Because viruses never mutate, they never change, they act the same way for ever and ever. Smacking obtuse, that's what i call you.

Mutations of Ebola are a concern but not as much as a mutating flu. Filoviruses are relatively primitive as far as viruses go.

Who's to say they might not bring a vector on the journey?


We need to stop these people coming uninvited at all costs.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:05am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:00am: It's in the paper, and has the potential to be a massive threat IMO. Along with other diseases not common in OZ. What paper????? It is improbable to say least, impossible for a person smuggled & the only way it will happen is as has been pointed out an aircraft arrival direct. Grow a brain DAKAR, March 24 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Scientists tackling an outbreak of Ebola in Guinea believe they have identified the virus as the Zaire strain, the most lethal of all... Oh well excuse me for having an opinion. Ok it can never ever happen then, all good the smacking experts have spoken. Because viruses never mutate, they never change, they act the same way for ever and ever. Smacking obtuse, that's what i call you.

You still haven't provided a link so I can read the article myself

Your welcome to your opinion

Your thread title & OP specifically mentions smuggling, a process that takes longer than the incubation period of the disease, so yes Ebola in its current form it is impossible.

This is the 1st time you've mentioned mutation.

Who knows but again since we don't know what the vector really is, its a bit hard to tell.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:13am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:11am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:05am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:00am: It's in the paper, and has the potential to be a massive threat IMO. Along with other diseases not common in OZ. What paper????? It is improbable to say least, impossible for a person smuggled & the only way it will happen is as has been pointed out an aircraft arrival direct. Grow a brain DAKAR, March 24 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Scientists tackling an outbreak of Ebola in Guinea believe they have identified the virus as the Zaire strain, the most lethal of all... Oh well excuse me for having an opinion. Ok it can never ever happen then, all good the smacking experts have spoken. Because viruses never mutate, they never change, they act the same way for ever and ever. Smacking obtuse, that's what i call you. Mutations of Ebola are a concern but not as much as a mutating flu. Filoviruses are relatively primitive as far as viruses go.

Well we'll all just sit around with our fingers crossed.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:19am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:13am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:11am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:05am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:00am: It's in the paper, and has the potential to be a massive threat IMO. Along with other diseases not common in OZ. What paper????? It is improbable to say least, impossible for a person smuggled & the only way it will happen is as has been pointed out an aircraft arrival direct. Grow a brain DAKAR, March 24 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Scientists tackling an outbreak of Ebola in Guinea believe they have identified the virus as the Zaire strain, the most lethal of all... Oh well excuse me for having an opinion. Ok it can never ever happen then, all good the smacking experts have spoken. Because viruses never mutate, they never change, they act the same way for ever and ever. Smacking obtuse, that's what i call you. Mutations of Ebola are a concern but not as much as a mutating flu. Filoviruses are relatively primitive as far as viruses go. Well we'll all just sit around with our fingers crossed.

Or direct our anger at a unnecessary target.

Re Friday:

Ebola is highly contagious, which is correct.  However, it has a short incubation period (7 days approx), and high mortality rate.  And these are the reasons why it would always have only localized outbreaks.   However, if it is weaponized by genetic modification, then thats another matter. 

The infected "country shoppers" would never have made it here.  Because most people die within 2 weeks of getting Ebola.   And during this 2 weeks, they would not have the energy even to just walk. 

Some of the better infectious diseases that you may want to use would be: TB, Syphilis, or just plain old influenza.   But of course, a knowledgable person can counter that argument fairly easy as well.   ;)

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

Re Friday: Ebola is highly contagious, which is correct.  However, it has a short incubation period (7 days approx), and high mortality rate.  And these are the reasons why it would always have a localized outbreaks.   However, if it is weaponized by genetic modification, then thats another matter.  The infected "country shoppers" would never have made it here.  Because most people die within 2 weeks of getting Ebola.   And during this 2 weeks, they would not have the energy even to just walk.  Some of the better infectious diseases that you may want to use would be: TB, Syphilis, or just plain old influenza.   But of course, a knowledgable person can counter that argument fairly easy as well.   ;)

Again influenza, planes.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:18am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:11am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:05am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:00am: It's in the paper, and has the potential to be a massive threat IMO. Along with other diseases not common in OZ. What paper????? It is improbable to say least, impossible for a person smuggled & the only way it will happen is as has been pointed out an aircraft arrival direct. Grow a brain DAKAR, March 24 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Scientists tackling an outbreak of Ebola in Guinea believe they have identified the virus as the Zaire strain, the most lethal of all... Oh well excuse me for having an opinion. Ok it can never ever happen then, all good the smacking experts have spoken. Because viruses never mutate, they never change, they act the same way for ever and ever. Smacking obtuse, that's what i call you. You still haven't provided a link so I can read the article myself Your welcome to your opinion Your thread title & OP specifically mentions smuggling, a process that takes longer than the incubation period of the disease, so yes Ebola in its current form it is impossible. This is the 1st time you've mentioned mutation.

LOL, find it yourself.

And if someone gets on a boat in the early stages of contracting the virus?

And they pass it one 1/2 way through the voyage?

The dead get thrown over board, the virus is passed on again a few more weeks into the voyage.

I'm sorry you couldn't think for yourself and only sought to be an abusive arse hole.

Them's the breaks i guess.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:30am:

LOL, find it yourself

So your embarrassed by your source, not confidence inspiring


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:30am:

And if someone gets on a boat in the early stages of contracting the virus?

Incubation between 2 & 21 days, 21 is the maximum not the norm.


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:30am:

And they pass it one 1/2 way through the voyage? The dead get thrown over board, the virus is passed on again a few more weeks into the voyage.

How long do you think these boat trips take

And hasn't Tony stopped the Boats

Don't those stopped boats passengers end up on Manus Is?


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:30am:

I'm sorry you couldn't think for yourself and only sought to be an abusive arse hole.

I do think for myself which is why I was able to access your argument goggle some fact on Ebola, & call bullsh!t


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:30am:

Them's the breaks i guess.

Yes they are

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:30am: LOL, find it yourself So your embarrassed by your source, not confidence inspiring FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:30am: And if someone gets on a boat in the early stages of contracting the virus? Incubation between 2 & 21 days, 21 is the maximum not the norm. FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:30am: And they pass it one 1/2 way through the voyage? The dead get thrown over board, the virus is passed on again a few more weeks into the voyage. How long do you think these boat trips take And hasn't Tony stopped the Boats Don't those stopped boats passengers end up on Manus Is? FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:30am: I'm sorry you couldn't think for yourself and only sought to be an abusive arse hole. I do think for myself which is why I was able to access your argument goggle some fact on Ebola, & call bullsh!t FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:30am: Them's the breaks i guess. Yes they are

yep he has, instead they are now using shipping containers and planes.  But you know, the boats have stopped.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

Who's to say they might not bring a vector on the journey? We need to stop these people coming uninvited at all costs.

This is hysterical nonsense. Planes are a far more efficient method of transporting diseases. This is a point that you refuse to address.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:30am: LOL, find it yourself So your embarrassed by your source, not confidence inspiring FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:30am: And if someone gets on a boat in the early stages of contracting the virus? Incubation between 2 & 21 days, 21 is the maximum not the norm. FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:30am: And they pass it one 1/2 way through the voyage? The dead get thrown over board, the virus is passed on again a few more weeks into the voyage. How long do you think these boat trips take And hasn't Tony stopped the Boats Don't those stopped boats passengers end up on Manus Is? FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:30am: I'm sorry you couldn't think for yourself and only sought to be an abusive arse hole. I do think for myself which is why I was able to access your argument goggle some fact on Ebola, & call bullsh!t - Stem head FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:30am: Them's the breaks i guess. Yes they are

ABC online

Health officials fighting an outbreak of the Ebola virus in Guinea have dispatched specialised medical equipment, imposed restrictions on funerals and sought…

Reuters

23/03/2014 · CONAKRY (Reuters) - Health officials fighting an outbreak of Ebola in Guinea on Sunday dispatched specialized medical equipment, imposed restrictions on ...

BBC

23/03/2014 · An outbreak of the Ebola virus - which has already killed 59 people in Guinea - has reached the capital Conakry, the UN's children agency warns.



f..f..s..

Bam wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 11:57am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:17am: Who's to say they might not bring a vector on the journey? We need to stop these people coming uninvited at all costs. This is hysterical nonsense. Planes are a far more efficient method of transporting diseases. This is a point that you refuse to address.

Start a thread, bloody hell!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-24/ebola-outbreak-sees-scores-die-in-west-africa/5340100

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/23/us-guinea-ebola-idUSBREA2L0MI20140323

Seriously how hard is it to click the top left icon of the globe with a page then copy & paste address bar of article?

But back to the topic
A) No mention of smugglers
B) No mention of Australia
C) No mention of mutations

If you want to start a panic & heap even more hatred on those that choose to arrive by boat you best find a more realistic option.

How about A'Queda making an Ebola bomb but mutating the disease so it's dormant for 6 months, all in a cave a Tarrin gap, disguising it as a boat, selling gifting it to an Indonesian fisherman who has a boat load of dirty camel jockies ready to go which then infects the navy personnel who return from northern patrols and infect their families who intern infect the wider community.

Holy sh!t they timed it so Morrison was on a fluro junket & his now infected the whole parliament, it's the Zombie Apocalypse.
How did they know?
Who is the mole?

IT"S ALL TOO REAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqrG1bdGtg

http://www.pitchvision.com/files/image/simulator/PV-batting-studio.jpg


Not that kind of eBowler?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:42pm:

Seriously how hard is it to click the top left icon of the globe with a page then copy & paste address bar of article? But back to the topic A) No mention of smugglers B) No mention of Australia C) No mention of mutations If you want to start a panic & heap even more hatred on those that choose to arrive by boat you best find a more realistic option.

Never said the article mentioned smugglers. ::)
Never said the article mentioned Australia. ::)
Never said the article mentioned mutations. ::)

Who said i was trying to start a panic? ::)

You just make up all loads of crap..... ::)

There are some serious diseases out there, and many that come to OZ via people smugglers come from countries that have these diseases....fact. :)

A good reason IMO to ensure uninvited people paying people smugglers to bring them to OZ are stopped....my opinion. :)

Pretty smacking simple. ;)

Ummmm you're worried about asylum seekers who get isolated and checked medically while they're being processed, yet you make no mention of the millions of tourists and business visitors who come from all over the world - often direct from visiting several different countries over a short period of time - and who require no medical checks before they immediately get to mix in with the general population?

Once again with the word wankery


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Never said the article mentioned smugglers.

No you just started a thread with country shopper in the title, gee how did smuggler come into it then?
Maybe the people who pay smugglers are regularly called "Country Shoppers" but yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned smugglers.


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Never said the article mentioned Australia. Roll Eyes

No you just started a thread implying Country shoppers coming here might have Ebola?
You also posted this at 11.00am


Quote:

Just another reason to stop uninvited arrivals in OZ.

But yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned Australia.


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Never said the article mentioned mutations

No but here you posted at 11.11am

Quote:

Because viruses never mutate, they never change, they act the same way for ever and ever. Smacking obtuse, that's what i call you.

But yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned Mutations.


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Who said i was trying to start a panic?

It is the only logical conclusion, unless you want to go with blind hatred :-/


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

You just make up all loads of crap

No I actually think in more than 1 dimension, which is why you play these stupid word games of, "no I never said the article said", & the one the other day when every word meant banned but you didn't read the word banned so there was no ban, when called upon to explain the meaning behind your posts.


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

There are some serious diseases out there, and many that come to OZ via people smugglers come from countries that have these diseases....fact

NOPE CRAP see Lifes reply


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

A good reason IMO to ensure uninvited people paying people smugglers to bring them to OZ are stopped....my opinion

See Lifes reply


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Pretty smacking simple.

Yes you are

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:00pm:

Once again with the word wankery FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:37pm: Never said the article mentioned smugglers. No you just started a thread with country shopper in the title, gee how did smuggler come into it then? Maybe the people who pay smugglers are regularly called "Country Shoppers" but yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned smugglers. FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:37pm: Never said the article mentioned Australia. Roll Eyes No you just started a thread implying Country shoppers coming here might have Ebola? You also posted this at 11.00am Quote: Just another reason to stop uninvited arrivals in OZ. But yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned Australia. FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:37pm: Never said the article mentioned mutations No but here you posted at 11.11am [quote]Because viruses never mutate, they never change, they act the same way for ever and ever. Smacking obtuse, that's what i call you.

But yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned Mutations.


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Who said i was trying to start a panic?

It is the only logical conclusion, unless you want to go with blind hatred :-/


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

You just make up all loads of crap

No I actually think in more than 1 dimension, which is why you play these stupid word games of, "no I never said the article said", & the one the other day when every word meant banned but you didn't read the word banned so there was no ban, when called upon to explain the meaning behind your posts.


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

There are some serious diseases out there, and many that come to OZ via people smugglers come from countries that have these diseases....fact

NOPE CRAP see Lifes reply


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

A good reason IMO to ensure uninvited people paying people smugglers to bring them to OZ are stopped....my opinion

See Lifes reply


FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Pretty smacking simple.

Yes you are
[/quote]

;D

All replies to you, making crap up!!

STOP THE DISEASES!!!

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:41pm:

Ummmm you're worried about asylum seekers who get isolated and checked medically while they're being processed, yet you make no mention of the millions of tourists and business visitors who come from all over the world - often direct from visiting several different countries over a short period of time - and who require no medical checks before they immediately get to mix in with the general population?

That's a good point.

Still IMO we should mitigate the risk from uninvited people that arrive via people smuggling operations.

:)

Yet another good reason to stop the people smuggling trade.

The gender gap....

The Middle East and North Africa were the only regions not to improve in the past year....

Another good reason to stop boats.....and immigration, from these areas.

;)

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:23pm:

The gender gap.... The Middle East and North Africa were the only regions not to improve in the past year.... Another good reason to stop boats.....and immigration, from these areas. ;)

I think Western Sydney has gone to hell too.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:10pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 11:57am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:17am: Who's to say they might not bring a vector on the journey? We need to stop these people coming uninvited at all costs. This is hysterical nonsense. Planes are a far more efficient method of transporting diseases. This is a point that you refuse to address. Start a thread, bloody hell!!

You still refuse to address the point that planes are the most effective way of transporting diseases and parasites around the globe.

You've got nothing.

Bam wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 12:10pm: Bam wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 11:57am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:17am: Who's to say they might not bring a vector on the journey? We need to stop these people coming uninvited at all costs. This is hysterical nonsense. Planes are a far more efficient method of transporting diseases. This is a point that you refuse to address. Start a thread, bloody hell!! You still refuse to address the point that planes are the most effective way of transporting diseases and parasites around the globe. You've got nothing.

I addressed the point - not just to you.... :'( :'(

That's a good point.

Still IMO we should mitigate the risk from uninvited people that arrive via people smuggling operations.

Yet another good reason to stop the people smuggling trade.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?

Virus in Guinea capital Conakry not Ebola

24 March 2014 Last updated at 17:32


Conakry - Guinea announced on Monday that samples taken from three suspected cases of Ebola, which led to two deaths in the capital Conakry, had tested negative for the virus.

"The Pasteur Institute in Dakar worked urgently all last night on samples taken from suspected cases here in Conakry which were all negative," said Sakoba Keita, the health ministry's chief disease prevention officer.

The Pasteur Institute was still working on identifying the virus behind the fever cases in the capital and would know more "in the coming hours".


http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Fever-cases-reported-in-Guinea-not-Ebola-20140324

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:41pm:

... you're worried about asylum seekers who get isolated and checked medically while they're being processed, yet you make no mention of the millions of tourists and business visitors who come from all over the world ...

... who are NOT the subject of mandatory health checks

I went to a Liberal Party 200 Club dinner a while back and one of the medical people who has been out on the asylum detention centres said that they are rife with disease.

That's the danger of accepting people from these kind of places. Disease is a massive problem.

Yuck!

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 5:08pm:

I went to a Liberal Party 200 Club dinner a while back and one of the medical people who has been out on the asylum detention centres said that they are rife with disease. That's the danger of accepting people from these kind of places. Disease is a massive problem. Yuck!

They receive medication for their illnesses so not sure what the problem is. Has no one realised this, there is treatment for their most common ones (hepatitis B, TB, VD) and generally easily cured, full medical check ups are part of the induction process. Theres a lot of valid reasons why we should not be accepting these people into australia but the risk of disease carrying isnt one of them.

Xenophobia run wild. I have no trouble holding people in a camp for a limited time for health checks.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

There are some serious diseases out there, and many that come to OZ via people smugglers come from countries that have these diseases....fact. :) A good reason IMO to ensure uninvited people paying people smugglers to bring them to OZ are stopped....my opinion. :) Pretty smacking simple. ;)

Your opinion is formed through a baseless fear. For your solution to protect Australia from the big E and other viruses to work, you'd need to stop all immigration and international tourism. Being "uninvited" has nothing to do with it.

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 7:46pm:

Xenophobia run wild. I have no trouble holding people in a camp for a limited time for health checks.

Yes. It's something called "quarantine". It was originally a forty-day stay in detention to prevent the spread of diseases like the plague. Considering asylum seekers are usually held in detention longer than this, any transmissible diseases would likely be detected so they are already effectively in quarantine. I see no problem here.

It's not asylum seekers arriving by boat that bring diseases into the country. The most dangerous carriers of disease are people arriving by plane, flooding into the country without any health checks. No wonder we're getting measles outbreaks again.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:44pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 12:10pm: Bam wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 11:57am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 10:17am: Who's to say they might not bring a vector on the journey? We need to stop these people coming uninvited at all costs. This is hysterical nonsense. Planes are a far more efficient method of transporting diseases. This is a point that you refuse to address. Start a thread, bloody hell!! You still refuse to address the point that planes are the most effective way of transporting diseases and parasites around the globe. You've got nothing. I addressed the point - not just to you.... :'( :'( That's a good point. Still IMO we should mitigate the risk from uninvited people that arrive via people smuggling operations. Yet another good reason to stop the people smuggling trade.

Fair enough, I had overlooked this response. It is rather light on detail though (there's none at all, actually), and the point hasn't sunk in - you then keep right on beating your drum to strike up fear about a nonexistent issue.

Hmmm talking about diseases. . .that disease called Campbell Newman has closed centres studying TB, tropical diseases and anti–biotic superbugs. Dangerous place, Quinceland.

cods wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 9:08am:

I believe its an airborn virus

Not even CLOSE ...




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Ebola is introduced into the human population through close contact with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected animals. In Africa, infection has been documented through the handling of infected chimpanzees, gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, forest antelope and porcupines found dead or ill in the rainforest. Later Ebola spreads in the community through human-to-human transmission, resulting from close contact with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected people. Burial ceremonies where mourners have direct contact with the body of the deceased person can also play a role in the transmission of Ebola. Transmission via infected semen can occur up to seven weeks after clinical recovery. Health-care workers have frequently been infected while treating Ebola patients. This has occurred through close contact without the use of correct infection control precautions and adequate barrier nursing procedures. For example, health-care workers not wearing gloves and/or masks and/or goggles may be exposed to direct contact with infected patients' blood and are at risk. Among workers in contact with monkeys or pigs infected with Ebola Reston, several human infections have been documented and were clinically asymptomatic. Thus, the Ebola Reston virus appears to be less capable of causing disease in humans than the other Ebola species. However, the evidence available relates only to healthy adult males. It would be premature to conclude the health effects of the virus on all population groups, such as immuno-compromised persons, persons with underlying medical conditions, pregnant women and children. More studies of Ebola Reston virus are needed before definitive conclusions can be made about the pathogenicity and virulence of this virus in humans. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

So we should stay well away from the simian in the Lodge?  (monkeys, chimps etc)


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