The Christian girl gets expelled from school for being raped, her Christian boyfriend stays at school, doesn't get charged and turns into pastor.

Just what do these Christian schools teach our children?

‘God is Done with You’: Pensacola Christian College and Sexual Violence

At Pensacola Christian College (PCC), a fundamentalist school similar in ideology and purpose to Bob Jones University and Patrick Henry College, there is a saying: “attending PCC is a privilege, not a right.” Students who attend here agree to abide by the Pathway, the school’s honor code, as well as signing an agreement that gives PCC the right to expel any student for any reason at any time.

When Beth* and David* signed this agreement, they had no idea they were going to be expelled for being raped.

Beth started attending PCC in September 2002 and almost instantly hit it off with a young man in her English class. He was on the “Praise Team,” one of the college’s PR efforts, and charmed everyone he met. He was friends with her brother, well-liked by her father, and by April they were “courting.” Beth innocently thought she had found the man she would spend the rest of her life with.

One night in May, however, she was grabbed, dragged into a construction area, beaten, restrained with bungee cord and duct tape, and then raped. As he was leaving her there, she recognized him as her boyfriend. A campus security guard discovered her, still restrained with the cord and tape, and took her to the campus clinic to file a report. In the next 24 hours, she went to the hospital, reported her attack to the police, and stayed the night with her parents. However, when she arrived back on campus with a black eye and a broken arm, her family was confronted by the dean of women and told that Beth was being expelled “because she is a fornicator.”

PCC took no action against Beth’s boyfriend. He graduated with honors and is now a pastor.

David started his college career intending to study law, until he realized that his heart belonged to the stage. But, in December 2012, during his sophomore year, his roommates in his male-only dormitory woke him up in the middle of the night, restrained him, gagged him, and then gang-raped him.

Confused and scared, he told his floorleader what had happened. A few days later he was called into a meeting with his residence manager who refused to listen to him and then gave him the maximum number of demerits for being “deceitful.”

But, the meetings didn’t end there. He was also called into Student Life, where he met with the assistant dean of men, “who asked me if I had been ‘harassed.’ I said ‘Yes, but…’ and he cut me off.” The dean then told him that he was being expelled.


“I had just been raped, and no one would believe me — it was a nightmare. The specific wording was stone cold professional. He kept quoting passages from the Bible about the evils of lying.”

David has been in counseling for the last six months, trying to overcome not only the horrible trauma of aggravated rape but also trying to heal from how the administration responded to him. Instead of being believed and respected, he was called a liar and then expelled.

Sexual violence on college campuses is a wide-spread problem that has drawn heavy media attention recently — it’s even gotten the President’s attention, and there is now increased focus on how universities respond to victims and their needs. Thanks to organizations like GRACE, many people now know that sexual violence isn’t isolated to secular colleges, and that just because a college is religiously-oriented doesn’t mean that they respond to victims appropriately.

Some have contended, however, that strict honor codes like PCC’s Pathway might actually prevent sexual violence from happening. Some have even gone so far as to claim that administrations at colleges like PCC have the right to be “suspicious” of victims because “rules at that school make it nearly impossible [for a victim] to even get into a situation like this.”

The problem isn’t just that universities like Pensacola Christian College, Bob Jones University, and Patrick Henry College are steeped in “purity culture” — a culture that teaches women who have sex are like used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybars: in a word, women are disposable. Purity culture is worth examining, but the heart of the problem at PCC is that purity culture is enshrined in the Pathway – and the Pathway makes it virtually impossible for victims to come forward, even more so than the roadblocks facing victims at secular colleges.

Whitney discovered exactly how the honor code makes it difficult for victims when she was expelled five days before the end of her junior year. She started dating one of her close friends in the beginning of the school year, in 2009. Almost immediately he began using threats and coercion against her, manipulating her, ignoring her repeated attempts to tell him no. She says that she “pleaded with him” to stop, but he never did.

Eventually, someone noticed and reported her to Student Life. After she’d been interrogated for over an hour, she “finally saw a chance to get help.” Instead of listening to her, however, they accused her of lying and told her that she was the one truly responsible for her boyfriend’s assaults. At the end of their meeting, the dean of women looked at Whitney and said that she was a “dirty vessel, and God can’t use a dirty vessel. He is done with you.” She

God, another christianophobe thread. Does it ever end.

Kanpur madarsa teacher’s son booked for raping six-year-old girl

They just have to have them young.

http://www.indiatvnews.com/crime/news/latest-kanpur-madarsa-teacher-s-son-booked-for-raping-six-year--5605.html

Sparky wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 10:56am:

God, another christianophobe thread. Does it ever end.

Appalling. Why can't they address the problem with the Muselman for once?

Unless - any chance the perp could be a Muslim? He is GUILTY, after all.

I say he's a dirty Moslem. There are suspicions at any rate.

Sparky wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 10:56am:

God, another christianophobe thread. Does it ever end.

Doesn't worry me, I am happy to condemn bad behaviour by any religion.

Which is why the luvvies make me laugh.  Condemn Islam behaving badly they default to defence and cast around trying to find an equivalent (love luvvie equivalency by the way) as if that makes it alright or condones it somehow.

They have not the wit to criticise bad behaviour for being bad. If it is bad behaviour by Islam there must always be excuses and mitigating behaviour, but if it comes to bad behaviour in the name of Christianity it is all stacks on the mill. 

Tis an amazing thing to observe. 

This one's a Muslim too. He was on SBS saying how he converted to Christianity and everything - what a load of old boots.

He's clearly a Moslem.


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Daniel Morcombe's murderer Brett Peter Cowan sentenced: live coverage Justice Roslyn Atkinson has sentenced Brett Peter Cowan. The 44-year-old was sentenced to life in prison, with a minimum non-parole period of 20 years. But she took the view that he should not be released in 20 years’ time but ‘‘that is not in my control’’. For the charge of indecently dealing with a child under the age of 16, Cowan was sentenced to three and a half years' imprisonment. For the charge of improperly interfering with a corpse, Cowan was sentenced to two years' imprisonment. Those terms will be served concurrently, with his life sentence. The Morcombe family did not attend today’s sentencing. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-live-coverage-20140314-34qtl.html#ixzz2vtya3ni3

Datalife wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

Sparky wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 10:56am: God, another christianophobe thread. Does it ever end. Doesn't worry me, I am happy to condemn bad behaviour by any religion.

That's nothing more than spineless apologetics. You wash your mouth out.

Islam is the enemy. It has always been the enemy. Its very purpose is to be the enemy. Always, absolutely, never ever - on stilts.

Karnal wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

Datalife wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:53pm: Sparky wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 10:56am: God, another christianophobe thread. Does it ever end. Doesn't worry me, I am happy to condemn bad behaviour by any religion. That's nothing more than spineless apologetics. You wash your mouth out. Islam is the enemy. It has always been the enemy. Its very purpose is to be the enemy. Always, absolutely, never ever - on stilts.

So do people have any reason to be worried karnal???

Sparky wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:57pm: Datalife wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:53pm: Sparky wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 10:56am: God, another christianophobe thread. Does it ever end. Doesn't worry me, I am happy to condemn bad behaviour by any religion. That's nothing more than spineless apologetics. You wash your mouth out. Islam is the enemy. It has always been the enemy. Its very purpose is to be the enemy. Always, absolutely, never ever - on stilts. So do people have any reason to be worried karnal???

Not with you on the case, Sparky.

You’ll get em.

Karnal wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 4:14pm:

Sparky wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 3:44pm: Karnal wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:57pm: Datalife wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:53pm: Sparky wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 10:56am: God, another christianophobe thread. Does it ever end. Doesn't worry me, I am happy to condemn bad behaviour by any religion. That's nothing more than spineless apologetics. You wash your mouth out. Islam is the enemy. It has always been the enemy. Its very purpose is to be the enemy. Always, absolutely, never ever - on stilts. So do people have any reason to be worried karnal??? Not with you on the case, Sparky. You’ll get em.

Can't take a question on yourself can you Karnal. Always have to be asking it. I'll ask again- do the Australian people have any reason to fear Islam in Australia?

wally1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 10:53am:

The Christian girl gets expelled from school for being raped, her Christian boyfriend stays at school, doesn't get charged and turns into pastor. Just what do these Christian schools teach our children? ‘God is Done with You’: Pensacola Christian College and Sexual Violence

Source?

Karnal wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 12:55pm:

This one's a Muslim too. He was on SBS saying how he converted to Christianity and everything - what a load of old boots. He's clearly a Moslem. Quote: Daniel Morcombe's murderer Brett Peter Cowan sentenced: live coverage Justice Roslyn Atkinson has sentenced Brett Peter Cowan. The 44-year-old was sentenced to life in prison, with a minimum non-parole period of 20 years. But she took the view that he should not be released in 20 years’ time but ‘‘that is not in my control’’. For the charge of indecently dealing with a child under the age of 16, Cowan was sentenced to three and a half years' imprisonment. For the charge of improperly interfering with a corpse, Cowan was sentenced to two years' imprisonment. Those terms will be served concurrently, with his life sentence. The Morcombe family did not attend today’s sentencing. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-live-coverage-20140314-34qtl.html#ixzz2vtya3ni3

You are even more hideously despicable than I imagined.

Soren wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 5:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:55pm: This one's a Muslim too. He was on SBS saying how he converted to Christianity and everything - what a load of old boots. He's clearly a Moslem. Quote: Daniel Morcombe's murderer Brett Peter Cowan sentenced: live coverage Justice Roslyn Atkinson has sentenced Brett Peter Cowan. The 44-year-old was sentenced to life in prison, with a minimum non-parole period of 20 years. But she took the view that he should not be released in 20 years’ time but ‘‘that is not in my control’’. For the charge of indecently dealing with a child under the age of 16, Cowan was sentenced to three and a half years' imprisonment. For the charge of improperly interfering with a corpse, Cowan was sentenced to two years' imprisonment. Those terms will be served concurrently, with his life sentence. The Morcombe family did not attend today’s sentencing. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-live-coverage-20140314-34qtl.html#ixzz2vtya3ni3 You are even more hideously despicable than I imagined.

Thank you kindly, dear boy.

No Muselman rape and pillage stories worth posting today? Keep looking.

If you can’t get a decent Musel one, do a rant about their hideous prophet.

Remember what Mormor Vestifaart said - If you come up with stool, make stool cheese.

Karnal wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 6:22pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:52pm: Karnal wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:55pm: This one's a Muslim too. He was on SBS saying how he converted to Christianity and everything - what a load of old boots. He's clearly a Moslem. Quote: Daniel Morcombe's murderer Brett Peter Cowan sentenced: live coverage Justice Roslyn Atkinson has sentenced Brett Peter Cowan. The 44-year-old was sentenced to life in prison, with a minimum non-parole period of 20 years. But she took the view that he should not be released in 20 years’ time but ‘‘that is not in my control’’. For the charge of indecently dealing with a child under the age of 16, Cowan was sentenced to three and a half years' imprisonment. For the charge of improperly interfering with a corpse, Cowan was sentenced to two years' imprisonment. Those terms will be served concurrently, with his life sentence. The Morcombe family did not attend today’s sentencing. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-live-coverage-20140314-34qtl.html#ixzz2vtya3ni3 You are even more hideously despicable than I imagined. Thank you kindly, dear boy. No Muselman rape and pillage stories worth posting today? Keep looking. If you can’t get a decent Musel one, do a rant about their hideous prophet. Remember what Mormor Vestifaart said - If you come up with stool, make stool cheese.

So Karnal, do the Australia people have anything to worry about concerning different sections of the Australian Islamic community???

Worry about? But of course!

The old boy drove through Bankstown last week - the place was full of Muselmen.

Can you believe it? Not a Hun in the place.

Yes dear, we have something to worry about alright. Next time we have a jolly war with the Hun, the dirty Muselman will be jacking up the price of oil.

Always, absolutely, never ever, you see. On stilts.

Stilts.

Funny how the "news" item in the original post only appears to have been mentioned in forums and untrustworthy looking anti-religion sites.  Not one mainstream news source seems to have said anything about it.....

Karnal wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 12:55pm:

This one's a Muslim too. He was on SBS saying how he converted to Christianity and everything - what a load of old boots. He's clearly a Moslem. Quote: Daniel Morcombe's murderer Brett Peter Cowan sentenced: live coverage Justice Roslyn Atkinson has sentenced Brett Peter Cowan. The 44-year-old was sentenced to life in prison, with a minimum non-parole period of 20 years. But she took the view that he should not be released in 20 years’ time but ‘‘that is not in my control’’. For the charge of indecently dealing with a child under the age of 16, Cowan was sentenced to three and a half years' imprisonment. For the charge of improperly interfering with a corpse, Cowan was sentenced to two years' imprisonment. Those terms will be served concurrently, with his life sentence. The Morcombe family did not attend today’s sentencing. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-live-coverage-20140314-34qtl.html#ixzz2vtya3ni3

You will not shrink from turning anything into Muslim propaganda.

You are despicable, PB, just disgusting.

Soren wrote on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 8:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:55pm: This one's a Muslim too. He was on SBS saying how he converted to Christianity and everything - what a load of old boots. He's clearly a Moslem. Quote: Daniel Morcombe's murderer Brett Peter Cowan sentenced: live coverage Justice Roslyn Atkinson has sentenced Brett Peter Cowan. The 44-year-old was sentenced to life in prison, with a minimum non-parole period of 20 years. But she took the view that he should not be released in 20 years’ time but ‘‘that is not in my control’’. For the charge of indecently dealing with a child under the age of 16, Cowan was sentenced to three and a half years' imprisonment. For the charge of improperly interfering with a corpse, Cowan was sentenced to two years' imprisonment. Those terms will be served concurrently, with his life sentence. The Morcombe family did not attend today’s sentencing. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-live-coverage-20140314-34qtl.html#ixzz2vtya3ni3 You will not shrink from turning anything into Muslim propaganda. You are despicable, PB, just disgusting.

Now now, don’t be jealous, old boy.

You’ll get your chance.

Who knows? Next week, you might drive through Lakemba.

Karnal wrote on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 8:39pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 8:10pm: Karnal wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:55pm: This one's a Muslim too. He was on SBS saying how he converted to Christianity and everything - what a load of old boots. He's clearly a Moslem. Quote: Daniel Morcombe's murderer Brett Peter Cowan sentenced: live coverage Justice Roslyn Atkinson has sentenced Brett Peter Cowan. The 44-year-old was sentenced to life in prison, with a minimum non-parole period of 20 years. But she took the view that he should not be released in 20 years’ time but ‘‘that is not in my control’’. For the charge of indecently dealing with a child under the age of 16, Cowan was sentenced to three and a half years' imprisonment. For the charge of improperly interfering with a corpse, Cowan was sentenced to two years' imprisonment. Those terms will be served concurrently, with his life sentence. The Morcombe family did not attend today’s sentencing. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-live-coverage-20140314-34qtl.html#ixzz2vtya3ni3 You will not shrink from turning anything into Muslim propaganda. You are despicable, PB, just disgusting. Now now, don’t be jealous, old boy. You’ll get your chance. Who knows? Next week, you might drive through Lakemba.

Are you saying Karnal that Soren drove through Bankstown and some evil muslim didn't kick his head in?What is wrong with these muslim people.

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Are you saying Karnal that Soren drove through Bankstown and some evil muslim didn't kick his head in?What is wrong with these muslim people.

Where is this from?

wally1 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 8:39pm: Soren wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 8:10pm: Karnal wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:55pm: This one's a Muslim too. He was on SBS saying how he converted to Christianity and everything - what a load of old boots. He's clearly a Moslem. Quote: Daniel Morcombe's murderer Brett Peter Cowan sentenced: live coverage Justice Roslyn Atkinson has sentenced Brett Peter Cowan. The 44-year-old was sentenced to life in prison, with a minimum non-parole period of 20 years. But she took the view that he should not be released in 20 years’ time but ‘‘that is not in my control’’. For the charge of indecently dealing with a child under the age of 16, Cowan was sentenced to three and a half years' imprisonment. For the charge of improperly interfering with a corpse, Cowan was sentenced to two years' imprisonment. Those terms will be served concurrently, with his life sentence. The Morcombe family did not attend today’s sentencing. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-live-coverage-20140314-34qtl.html#ixzz2vtya3ni3 You will not shrink from turning anything into Muslim propaganda. You are despicable, PB, just disgusting. Now now, don’t be jealous, old boy. You’ll get your chance. Who knows? Next week, you might drive through Lakemba. Are you saying Karnal that Soren drove through Bankstown and some evil muslim didn't kick his head in?What is wrong with these muslim people.

No, I'm saying he drove through Bankstown and they had the nerve simply to be there.

The old boy said they weren't Australian.

The old boy, you see, would prefer Bankstown to be a Danish community. Jolly maypole dancing and cheese-rolling contests.

You know, Aussie Aussie Aussie.

freediver wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 8:38am:

Quote: Are you saying Karnal that Soren drove through Bankstown and some evil muslim didn't kick his head in?What is wrong with these muslim people. Where is this from?

im sure I read from karnals post that soren came to bankstown, unless Karnal was kidding around.

wally1 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 9:42am:

freediver wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:38am: Quote: Are you saying Karnal that Soren drove through Bankstown and some evil muslim didn't kick his head in?What is wrong with these muslim people. Where is this from? im sure I read from karnals post that soren came to bankstown, unless Karnal was kidding around.

Oh no, he said it. He also said the same about Granville a few weeks ago.

You know, spot the Aussie.

I think he was arguing in favour of Danish immigration, I forget now.

Datalife wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

Doesn't worry me, I am happy to condemn bad behaviour by any religion. Which is why the luvvies make me laugh.  Condemn Islam behaving badly they default to defence and cast around trying to find an equivalent (love luvvie equivalency by the way) as if that makes it alright or condones it somehow. They have not the wit to criticise bad behaviour for being bad. If it is bad behaviour by Islam there must always be excuses and mitigating behaviour, but if it comes to bad behaviour in the name of Christianity it is all stacks on the mill.  Tis an amazing thing to observe.

Well said 'D'.

They have 20-20 Vision when it comes to citing something morally delinquent in the context of the Christian religion, but then suffer from untreated cataracts, hysterical blindness, visual trauma, Macular Degeneration and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder when it comes to acknowledging a few peccadilloes in the context of the Islamic religion.

Karnal wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

wally1 wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 9:42am: freediver wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:38am: Quote: Are you saying Karnal that Soren drove through Bankstown and some evil muslim didn't kick his head in?What is wrong with these muslim people. Where is this from? im sure I read from karnals post that soren came to bankstown, unless Karnal was kidding around. Oh no, he said it. He also said the same about Granville a few weeks ago. You know, spot the Aussie. I think he was arguing in favour of Danish immigration, I forget now.

Funny how certain members rant about muslims but happy to have a beer with them, go to there houses for dinner etc.

Then when they don't get decked  or beheaded for coming to muslim areas they still complain that muslims don't like them.

Muslims cant win these days.

Karnal wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

Oh no, he said it. He also said the same about Granville a few weeks ago. You know, spot the Aussie. I think he was arguing in favour of Danish immigration, I forget now.

I used to pass through Granville on the way to work. Even then you wouldn't get any takers in a 'spot-the-Aussie' game. There were no Aussies.

And that's just how the locals liked it. Multiculturalism was not for them. That was a Social-Marxist wank dreamed up by North Shore luvvies and university academics like Professor Donald Horne.

Read the vitriol pouring out of Donald Horne's book "God is an Englishman".

wally1 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 9:59am:

Muslims cant win these days.

Best news I've heard all day.

If you want to see what happens when Muslim immigrants to Western countries start 'winning' ~ then let Google be your tour guide all across Europe and Scandinavia, for starters.

wally1 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 9:59am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 9:43am: wally1 wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 9:42am: freediver wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:38am: Quote: Are you saying Karnal that Soren drove through Bankstown and some evil muslim didn't kick his head in?What is wrong with these muslim people. Where is this from? im sure I read from karnals post that soren came to bankstown, unless Karnal was kidding around. Oh no, he said it. He also said the same about Granville a few weeks ago. You know, spot the Aussie. I think he was arguing in favour of Danish immigration, I forget now. Funny how certain members rant about muslims but happy to have a beer with them, go to there houses for dinner etc. Then when they don't get decked  or beheaded for coming to muslim areas they still complain that muslims don't like them. Muslims cant win these days.

Good heavens, the old boy wouldn't go to their houses. It was bad enough driving through Bankstown.

Here's the religious stats on Bankstown (2001, 2006 & 2011, respectively):


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Religious affiliation, top responses Catholic 31.1%  29.6%  28.0% Islam 11.9%  15.2%  19.1% Anglican 15.5%  12.5%  10.2% Eastern Orthodox 8.7%  8.6%  8.5% No Religion 6.3%  7.1%  8.3%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Bankstown

Granville:


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At the 2011 census, there were 13,989 residents in Granville. More than half of people were born outside of Australia, with the top countries of birth being India, China and Lebanon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville,_Sydney#Population

The Muselman is clearly in the minority in both places.

Spot the Aussie, eh?

Karnal wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 10:41am:

Spot the Aussie, eh?

Thanks for confirming what we already know.

Catholics and Anglicans: Filipinos and Pacific Islanders.

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 10:34am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 9:43am: Oh no, he said it. He also said the same about Granville a few weeks ago. You know, spot the Aussie. I think he was arguing in favour of Danish immigration, I forget now. I used to pass through Granville on the way to work. Even then you wouldn't get any takers in a 'spot-the-Aussie' game. There were no Aussies. And that's just how the locals liked it. Multiculturalism was not for them. That was a Social-Marxist wank dreamed up by North Shore luvvies and university academics like Professor Donald Horne. Read the vitriol pouring out of Donald Horne's book "God is an Englishman".

Actually, Herbie, it was a population growth wank dreamed up by the Menzies government after the war.

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 10:46am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:41am: Spot the Aussie, eh? Thanks for confirming what we already know. Catholics and Anglicans: Filipinos and Pacific Islanders.

My multicultural ghetto has an old Anglican cathedral. Sunday services:

9am. Choral Eucharist (English)
10am. Cantonese.
4pm. Mandarin.

Spot the Aussie indeed. The Baptist church caters for Tongans.

Karnal wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

Actually, Herbie, it was a population growth wank dreamed up by the Menzies government after the war.

Who's talking about population growth?

The multiculti bit was a wank dreamed up first by Professor Donald Horne ... and then acted upon by Gough Whitlam and his criminal mate Al Grassby.

Own goal again.

Dear O dear O dear ...

Karnal wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

The Baptist church caters for Tongans.

er ... yes?

We're not playing Spot-the-Tongan.

Dear O dear O dear ...

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:48am: Actually, Herbie, it was a population growth wank dreamed up by the Menzies government after the war. Who's talking about population growth? The multiculti bit was a wank dreamed up first by Professor Donald Horne ... and then acted upon by Gough Whitlam and his criminal mate Al Grassby. Own goal again. Dear O dear O dear ...

Because they couldn't get enough Europeans to fill the factories of Bankstown and Granville.

Dear O dear O dear.

And the multiculti wank was first dreamed up by the Yanks. You know - send us your poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

They've certainly improved church attendance in my multicultural ghetto.

Karnal wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

Because they couldn't get enough Europeans to fill the factories of Bankstown and Granville.

They put a quota on British immigration at the behest of Agreements with the UN to relieve poverty in such places as Greece, Italy, Yugoslavia, Malta, etc.

Brits had to start waiting for years to get the 'OK' from Australia House in London.


Karnal wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

And the multiculti wank was first dreamed up by the Yanks.

In Australia?

Suffering ADHD again?

Dear O dear O dear ...

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 11:23am: Because they couldn't get enough Europeans to fill the factories of Bankstown and Granville. They put a quota on British immigration at the behest of Agreements with the UN to relieve poverty in such places as Greece, Italy, Yugoslavia, Malta, etc. Brits had to start waiting for years to get the 'OK' from Australia House in London. Karnal wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 11:23am: And the multiculti wank was first dreamed up by the Yanks. In Australia?

In Australia, Herbie. Multiculturalism was originally a Canadian term influenced by US immigration policies. We got the term from them in 1968, courtesy of the academic, Jerzy Zubrzycki.

The ten-pound Pom scheme continued well into the 1970s. Immigration from England was always favoured. My own English father lived here illegally for years before he applied for the paperwork in the late 70s.

He filled in a form and got residency in an afternoon.

I have no doubt that your own experience of emmigrating to Australia was a piece of cake, no doubt whatsoever.

The Poms weren't coming, so we first settled on Eastern Europeans and Tennant Creeks, and then - in the 80s - whoever came - firstly Vietnamese, then successive waves of Lebs, Chinks, Islanders, etc.

The main reason we turned away from British immigration is we weren't getting the Poms. Multiculturalism was a feel-good response to this, based on the experience of the Yanks and cities like New York. "Give us your poor huddled masses, yearning to breathe free".

Marxism had bugger all to do with it, and during Grasby's time, we got bugger all non-white immigration. Whitlam initially wanted less - his reasoning was that immigrants from Indochine would vote Liberal, based on the Libs' entry into the Vietnam war and Vietnamese refugees'' staunch anti-communism. Former Soviet immigrants already had a tendancy to vote Liberal. Cabinet papers have been released discussing this.

Makes perfect sense that Fraser would open the floodgates, eh?

Dear O dear O dear ...  ::)

Sorta begs the question, doesn't it?

Given the antipathy to the influx of Vietnamese immigrants after and during the 'war' years, weren't a lot of pre-conceived notions about immigration answered when Cabramatta became a no-go area for Aussies, home invasions started and the usually quiet Asian gangs started making the news? You couldn't shop there because you couldn't read the signs in the windows.

The new 'reffo's' started to get a bad name back then. Not the old 'reffo's', they'd already settled in - owned the cafe's, concreting services and shoe shops.

Tribalism, gang fights, special crimes squads, interpreters - these were new things.

Did those times pre-date 'multiculturalism' - or did they trumpet a warning that has since been muffled?

Nothing in the recent news seems to support those old rose-coloured views of blithely introducing savage ignorance to ignorant civility (such as it is).

Why do we continue to import people whose beliefs and cultural standards stand at odds with our own established societal customs and mores?

And, in such a needy world, are we allowed to be a little selective? Accepting all sorts don't seem to be working.

Perhaps we should withhold such largesse until such times as "no Australian child lives in poverty"?

Seems we have a way to go.

Masterful, Lionel.

***

Bob Hawke:
Quote:

"No (Australian) kid shall live in Cabramatta ... Bankstown ... Punchbowl ... Greenacre ... Auburn ... Rockdale ... "

He kept his promise.  :)

Karnal wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 10:41am:

More than half of people were born outside of Australia, with the top countries of birth being India, China and Lebanon.

Ghetto. How the fook do you get metropolitan areas of Australia where Australians are a minority??

WTF?  Who's stupid idea was this?  And bozos like Paki Bvgger here are promoting this as a good idea?!?!

Soren wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 10:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:41am: More than half of people were born outside of Australia, with the top countries of birth being India, China and Lebanon. Ghetto. How the fook do you get metropolitan areas of Australia where Australians are a minority?? WTF?  Who's stupid idea was this?  And bozos like Paki Bvgger here are promoting this as a good idea?!?!

Oh, they’re all the rage these days, old dear.

Take those fondue parties at your place.

Spot the Aussie? Shurely shome mishtake.

Spot the rollmop.

How some of the cities get like that is years of immigration failed policies.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 1:15am:

How some of the cities get like that is years of immigration failed policies.

I know. We let these Hun old boys in, and look at all the marvellous things they do.

Fondue parties. Lutheran church picnics. Slappy dance festivals. Cheese races. Sausage-eating competitions.

They send their money back to Mormor Faartipaantz and play jolly games of spot-the-Hun in Bankstown.

It has nothing to do with pigmentation, it’s about superior culture. They come here to purify our national blood and erradicate the tinted hoards from our body politic.

They’re not racist. Some of their best friends are tanned. They just want peace and fraternity with their fellow Hun. They just want a nice, endless war with their tinted enemies and anyone who disagrees with them.

And what’s wrong with that?

Surely they enrichen our society with their fine, superior culture. I do feel they provide a shared common bond, no?