Puff the magic dragon has magically puffed the evil global warming heating into the ocean via the magical mystery trade winds.
Global warming models didn't account for Puff the magic dragon but sure enough he is there and now global warming models must claim Puff the magic dragon as there own.

Puff the magic dragon lives by the sea 
and global warming "science" is about as convincing as he  ;D

Next crazy climate change theory please  ;D

There are not many people for whom I would think that position a step up.

The ocean conveyor is well known so to say that the taking of heat into the depths of the ocean is unheard of is simply incorrect.

More wind just increases that process.. or was it the extra heat sinking that impelled the wind change??

-------------->> Feedback time!!!

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 9:14pm:

The ocean conveyor is well known so to say that the taking of heat into the depths of the ocean is unheard of is simply incorrect. More wind just increases that process.. or was it the extra heat sinking that impelled the wind change?? -------------->> Feedback time!!!

Oh that's what they are talking about.  I was beginning to wonder what they were "puffin" and 'draggin". Whatever it is, it isn't magic. Put that stuff down, it will rot your brains.

Either that or it's just regression to childhood. It's a common symptom of senility, along with an anti-scientific stance. 

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 8:28pm:

Next crazy climate change theory please  ;D

You can find out about what the (current) government is doing about Climate Change here:

http://www.cleanenergyfinancecorp.com.au/what-we-do.aspx


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Delivered abatement at negative cost to the taxpayer of $2.40 per tonne of CO2 abated (net of government cost of borrowing)

Nothing crazy about it. You denialists are going to find yourselves increasingly marginalised. Even the Coalition has had enough of the denialist freak show.

PRODUCTIVITY BECOMETH THE WORD!

Yeah, read about the trade winds driving the extra heat into the Pacific. The P. is large but not infinite and the extra heat it holds is going to do something not too nice at some stage—fiercer El Ninos?

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 8:28pm:

Puff the magic dragon has magically puffed the evil global warming heating into the ocean via the magical mystery trade winds. Global warming models didn't account for Puff the magic dragon but sure enough he is there and now global warming models must claim Puff the magic dragon as there own. Puff the magic dragon lives by the sea  and global warming "science" is about as convincing as he  ;D Next crazy climate change theory please  ;D

You must be referring to that gumby England's recent effort, take it easy on him, he comes from the same university as the "ship of fools" who sailed off to prove the ice had disappeared and cunningly got stuck solid in you guessed it....ice  ;D ;D ;D

Just a bit of tax payer funded comedy, god help us if they ever research anything important....

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Yeah, read about the trade winds driving the extra heat into the Pacific. The P. is large but not infinite and the extra heat it holds is going to do something not too nice at some stage—fiercer El Ninos?

Feedback of some sort.. :(

Rider wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 6:45pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 8:28pm: Puff the magic dragon has magically puffed the evil global warming heating into the ocean via the magical mystery trade winds. Global warming models didn't account for Puff the magic dragon but sure enough he is there and now global warming models must claim Puff the magic dragon as there own. Puff the magic dragon lives by the sea  and global warming "science" is about as convincing as he  ;D Next crazy climate change theory please  ;D You must be referring to that gumby England's recent effort, take it easy on him, he comes from the same university as the "ship of fools" who sailed off to prove the ice had disappeared and cunningly got stuck solid in you guessed it....ice  ;D ;D ;D Just a bit of tax payer funded comedy, god help us if they ever research anything important....

The force is strong in this one. Monckton would be proud.

"Ship of Fools" ? What's the next denialist slogan, I wonder?

That's a bad case of verbal flatulence you have there.

Meanwhile,..  http://www.androidworld.com/Sw_Rhone_Glacier.jpg

muso wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:31am:

Rider wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:45pm: Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 8:28pm: Puff the magic dragon has magically puffed the evil global warming heating into the ocean via the magical mystery trade winds. Global warming models didn't account for Puff the magic dragon but sure enough he is there and now global warming models must claim Puff the magic dragon as there own. Puff the magic dragon lives by the sea  and global warming "science" is about as convincing as he  ;D Next crazy climate change theory please  ;D You must be referring to that gumby England's recent effort, take it easy on him, he comes from the same university as the "ship of fools" who sailed off to prove the ice had disappeared and cunningly got stuck solid in you guessed it....ice  ;D ;D ;D Just a bit of tax payer funded comedy, god help us if they ever research anything important.... The force is strong in this one. Monckton would be proud. "Ship of Fools" ? What's the next denialist slogan, I wonder? That's a bad case of verbal flatulence you have there.

You are financially dependent on the AGW scare and I scoff equally at the nonsense you sprout.

Rider wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:07am:

muso wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:31am: Rider wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:45pm: Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 8:28pm: Puff the magic dragon has magically puffed the evil global warming heating into the ocean via the magical mystery trade winds. Global warming models didn't account for Puff the magic dragon but sure enough he is there and now global warming models must claim Puff the magic dragon as there own. Puff the magic dragon lives by the sea  and global warming "science" is about as convincing as he  ;D Next crazy climate change theory please  ;D You must be referring to that gumby England's recent effort, take it easy on him, he comes from the same university as the "ship of fools" who sailed off to prove the ice had disappeared and cunningly got stuck solid in you guessed it....ice  ;D ;D ;D Just a bit of tax payer funded comedy, god help us if they ever research anything important.... The force is strong in this one. Monckton would be proud. "Ship of Fools" ? What's the next denialist slogan, I wonder? That's a bad case of verbal flatulence you have there. You are financially dependent on the AGW scare and I scoff equally at the nonsense you sprout.

Meanwhile ....

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Yeah, read about the trade winds driving the extra heat into the Pacific. The P. is large but not infinite and the extra heat it holds is going to do something not too nice at some stage—fiercer El Ninos?

Yep the heat, cooler than the atmosphere, is hiding in the ocean. It is going to rise and expose the fraud of thermodynamics, the cooler ocean is going to heat the warmer air.

lee wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 10:09am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:14pm: Yeah, read about the trade winds driving the extra heat into the Pacific. The P. is large but not infinite and the extra heat it holds is going to do something not too nice at some stage—fiercer El Ninos? Yep the heat, cooler than the atmosphere, is hiding in the ocean. It is going to rise and expose the fraud of thermodynamics, the cooler ocean is going to heat the warmer air.

Warm air doesn't rise: COOLER AIR SINKS ![now who taught me that  :D]

Rider wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:07am:

You are financially dependent on the AGW scare and I scoff equally at the nonsense you sprout.

"AGW scare" is a misnomer. You don't know what I do, so you can't know what I am financially dependent on.

Your statement could equally be applied to dentistry or any other area of expertise:

examples:

You are a dentist, so you are financially dependent on (the scare of) dentistry.

You are a baker, so you are financially dependent on (the scare of) bakery.

You are an environmental scientist, so you are financially dependent on (the scare of) environmental science.

You're not really saying anything significant.  Your arguments are toothless, you are financially dependent on being anti-science, and I scoff at your verbal master baking.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 12:16pm:

lee wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 10:09am: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:14pm: Yeah, read about the trade winds driving the extra heat into the Pacific. The P. is large but not infinite and the extra heat it holds is going to do something not too nice at some stage—fiercer El Ninos? Yep the heat, cooler than the atmosphere, is hiding in the ocean. It is going to rise and expose the fraud of thermodynamics, the cooler ocean is going to heat the warmer air. Warm air doesn't rise: COOLER AIR SINKS ![now who taught me that  :D]

Meanwhile... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IfRCYdD1tBw/T6EeI_54bcI/AAAAAAAAKBc/Cjxu-SurjTY/s400/g_works_before_and_after.png

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:44pm:

Warm air doesn't rise: COOLER AIR SINKS ![now who taught me that  Cheesy]

What I was meaning was the warmth in the ocean is going to rise and warm the already warmer air.

lee wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:44pm: Warm air doesn't rise: COOLER AIR SINKS ![now who taught me that  Cheesy] What I was meaning was the warmth in the ocean is going to rise and warm the already warmer air.

Ah, okeley dokeley  ::)

lee wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:44pm: Warm air doesn't rise: COOLER AIR SINKS ![now who taught me that  Cheesy] What I was meaning was the warmth in the ocean is going to rise and warm the already warmer air.

Somebody is trying to converse with Deathridesadonkey ... god bless em, probably some kind person that works with retards or something, I think its great that you are trying to make Death feel like he really is part of the group, should be good for his confidence if they ever take the jacket off and let him out in public again.  :)

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:05pm:

lee wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:55pm: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:44pm: Warm air doesn't rise: COOLER AIR SINKS ![now who taught me that  Cheesy] What I was meaning was the warmth in the ocean is going to rise and warm the already warmer air. Somebody is trying to converse with Deathridesadonkey ... god bless em, probably some kind person that works with retards or something, I think its great that you are trying to make Death feel like he really is part of the group, should be good for his confidence if they ever take the jacket off and let him out in public again.  :)

** Innocent is trying to hijack the world economy with denialist propaganda..

lee wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:44pm: Warm air doesn't rise: COOLER AIR SINKS ![now who taught me that  Cheesy] What I was meaning was the warmth in the ocean is going to rise and warm the already warmer air.

At what time of day/year would it warm the cooler air? I'll ask DRAH, because he seems to have a better grasp on reality.

muso wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:12pm:

I'll ask DRAH, because he seems to have a better grasp on reality.

:o :o :o ... attention, we need a psychiatrist to aisle three please, a psychiatrist to aisle three.  :o :o :o ... hang in there muso helps on the way  ;)

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:32pm:

muso wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:12pm: I'll ask DRAH, because he seems to have a better grasp on reality. :o :o :o ... attention, we need a psychiatrist to aisle three please, a psychiatrist to aisle three.  :o :o :o ... hang in there muso helps on the way  ;)

I'll accept that as "I don't know"

'Yep the heat, cooler than the atmosphere, is hiding in the ocean. It is going to rise and expose the fraud of thermodynamics, the cooler ocean is going to heat the warmer air.'

Sorry I thought the sarcasm in the first post self evident.

Lee,

In this part of the world, we can swim all year round. Even in the Winter, when the air temperature is low, the water temperature is warmer.  There are warm ocean currents all over the world. You might have heard of some of them, like the North Atlantic Drift for example.

- and yes, the heat from the ocean can and does transfer to the surface, resulting in milder winters in some parts of the world.

Now you may think that you're smart parroting something you read on some idiotic blog, but right now, you're not looking all that smart.

http://www.indiana.edu/~geol105/images/gaia_chapter_4/oceancirculation.jpg

muso wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 8:08pm:

Lee, In this part of the world, we can swim all year round. Even in the Winter, when the air temperature is low, the water temperature is warmer.  There are warm ocean currents all over the world. You might have heard of some of them, like the North Atlantic Drift for example. - and yes, the heat from the ocean can and does transfer to the surface, resulting in milder winters in some parts of the world. Now you may think that you're smart parroting something you read on some idiotic blog, but right now, you're not looking all that smart. http://www.indiana.edu/~geol105/images/gaia_chapter_4/oceancirculation.jpg

:o :o it would seem we are on different sides of the continent!

muso wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 8:08pm:

and yes, the heat from the ocean can and does transfer to the surface, resulting in milder winters in some parts of the world.

And the heat that is hiding in the ocean is going to heat the atmosphere how much?

lee wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

muso wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:08pm: and yes, the heat from the ocean can and does transfer to the surface, resulting in milder winters in some parts of the world. And the heat that is hiding in the ocean is going to heat the atmosphere how much?

That's what the whole thermohaline conveyor is about ya f'n tripper! The worlds oceans move energy around the planet due to more than salt and temperature but also wind and tide making it difficult to separate what is responsible for what because it is the very definition of a complex system...  ;D ;D ;D

Ya wanna another billion word circle party do ya? Well, I cost a pretty penny don't ya know handsome!!

  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  :-*

They don't know if they conveyor is going to slow down freezing Europe or not because it is still controversial as to if the oceans circulation is responsible for Western Europes temperate climate or an equivalent atmospheric phenomenon... which is likewise just as controversial.

..haven't you been listening ??  ::)

The atmosphere predominates in distributing temperature the further you go from the equator,... so as for Western Europe what predominates is A COMPLEX QUESTION  :o :o :o :o :o

fmacorn  ::)

lee wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

muso wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:08pm: and yes, the heat from the ocean can and does transfer to the surface, resulting in milder winters in some parts of the world. And the heat that is hiding in the ocean is going to heat the atmosphere how much?

You tell me, Lee. It's your strawman.

DRAH - Yes, I know it's frustrating, but try to be nice to the old fella. 


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..haven't you been listening ??

He obviously has not.