Schapelle Corby will likely have to wait until Friday to learn whether her bid for release from a Bali prison will succeed.

Indonesia's Justice Minister Amir Syamsuddin confirmed on Wednesday he would consider the convicted drug smuggler's bid for parole within the next three days.

He said there were 1700 applications for parole before him and stressed the Australian's case would be treated the same as the others.

On Wednesday night he was more specific about the timing, telling reporters in Jakarta he would make his decision on Friday.

'I will finalise all on Friday,' Mr Syamsuddin said.

'All will be processed equally; no special treatment whatsoever.'

Mr Syamsuddin has already said publicly he can see no reason why Corby's parole bid should be rejected.

Her case was heard in Jakarta last week, but it's not known whether the parole board's recommendation to Mr Syamsuddin was in favour of parole.

If it's approved, Corby, 36, will serve her parole in the Kuta home of her sister Mercedes and her husband Wayan Widyartha.

hopefully the media don't stuff this up  >:(

she's done her time... let her go  >:(

Good luck Schapelle!

You did yourself proud.

I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here.

Why does this drug dealer keep getting so much air time?

Wow the trolls are @ it this morning . . . .

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:18am:

Wow the trolls are @ it this morning . . . . SOB

isn't simply coming onto every thread and calling everyone a troll, without contributing to the actual topic in itself trolling?  ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:19am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:18am: Wow the trolls are @ it this morning . . . . SOB isn't simply coming onto every thread and calling everyone a troll, without contributing to the actual topic in itself trolling?  ;D ;D ;D

Nope. I just drawing attention to the baiters.

Why go through it all again - its already been explained and explained.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:16am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:19am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:18am: Wow the trolls are @ it this morning . . . . SOB isn't simply coming onto every thread and calling everyone a troll, without contributing to the actual topic in itself trolling?  ;D ;D ;D Nope. I just drawing attention to the baiters. Why go through it all again - its already been explained and explained. SOB

This is the first time Shapelle seriously looks like getting parole, thats why .... you could always say nothing and move onto another topic.

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:50am:

hopefully the media don't stuff this up  >:( she's done her time... let her go  >:(

Her former lawyer has already made a stupid comment which has the potential to stuff it up.

Guilty or not-guilty, Corby should be released.  Nine years for cannabis is ridiculous.

She's got off lightly, they could have given her the DP.....

And that amount wasn't exactly for personal use....

Her family, including her brother, are known to LE, so she's really been lucky.

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:50am:

hopefully the media don't stuff this up  >:( she's done her time... let her go  >:(

Agree.
But what riles me, is the stuff up with the hash in her boogie board...they did not test it as to where it came from. And then, they burnt the evidence.
Too many stuff ups all along the way.
I don't believe she put it there, never have.
She has taking the rap for someone else.
Oh, and, a friend and her 15 yr old son, coming home from Queensland to Victoria, his boogie board went missing (some time in the same year as Corby's trial).....well, they eventually located it....coming back from Darwin.....now how is it that it went to Darwin in the first place? Because they are closer to Bali than any other place in Oz?

Makes me wonder, if a peodophile wants access to kids, he would become a priest, or a boy scout, or teacher in a home for boys etc.
If a drug peddlar wants to have access or peddle drugs, wouldn't it be easier, at that time, to then be a baggage handler?
I have read stories of 2 couples, that went to Bali for a holiday together, and one of the gents noticed his suitcase has a missing lock.
He found a bag of hash in his suitcase, he rang the Australian consulate, and they told him, not to report it to the Balinese police etc. Just flush it down the toilet, they told him.
Now, they have a service where you can glad wrap your bag.
Obviously there's a reason for that at airports when that service came in?

I am happy for her to come home, as long as the rules about crims not financially benefitting holds firm. I.e no bullshit new idea or ACA interviews.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

I am happy for her to come home, as long as the rules about crims not financially benefitting holds firm. I.e no bullshit new idea or ACA interviews.

It is a high profile case, and I expect it will happen. Great opportunity for the media to cash in on this, of course.

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:25am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:16am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:19am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:18am: Wow the trolls are @ it this morning . . . . SOB isn't simply coming onto every thread and calling everyone a troll, without contributing to the actual topic in itself trolling?  ;D ;D ;D Nope. I just drawing attention to the baiters. Why go through it all again - its already been explained and explained. SOB This is the first time Shapelle seriously looks like getting parole, thats why .... you could always say nothing and move onto another topic.

No - ppl need to be warned when the trolls are afoot.

SOB

She's already set to make a motsa from selling her story & the movie they're making about her.

Don't agree with that as I believe the rest of her family are as dodgy as..... & one of the reasons she got such a harsh sentence for pot. (not hash Lols..... HASH is a different product of marijuana)

I think her sentence was way over the top as recently there has been someone sentenced over there for a murder & he got less jail time. 7 or 8 yrs I believe.

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:12am:

I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here.

Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.

Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'.

Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do
not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

Gnads wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:57am:

She's already set to make a motsa from selling her story & the movie they're making about her. Don't agree with that as I believe the rest of her family are as dodgy as..... & one of the reasons she got such a harsh sentence for pot. (not hash Lols..... HASH is a different product of marijuana) I think her sentence was way over the top as recently there has been someone sentenced over there for a murder & he got less jail time. 7 or 8 yrs I believe.

;D gee thanks teach, but I tell you, I wouldn't know what it even looks like....and too many different names for it, but you knew what I meant  :)

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

I am happy for her to come home, as long as the rules about crims not financially benefitting holds firm. I.e no bullshit new idea or ACA interviews.

No, I disagree completely.

The only crime here was locking her up in the first place.

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. for goodness sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

It is ILLEGAL......what don't you understand? Most hardcore addicts start with cannabis, and that includes kids who want to experiment but get dragged in.

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Most hardcore addicts start with cannabis ...

Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts.

"There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs."

Read more: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/#ixzz2sV4lYjzH

I heard on the radio earlier that she stands  to make as much as $3million for her story .... disgraceful.

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

you keep telling yourself that.  ;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:08am: Most hardcore addicts start with cannabis ... Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts. "There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs." Read more: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/#ixzz2sV4lYjzH

Totally disagree, and dealers have no problem expanding the drug experience to more serious substances to make more money.

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc.

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:03am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 10:48am: I am happy for her to come home, as long as the rules about crims not financially benefitting holds firm. I.e no bullshit new idea or ACA interviews. No, I disagree completely. The only crime here was locking her up in the first place.

I agree, she should have gotten the death penalty.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc.

my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke reagularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix  ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years

they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot they would smoke it in a closed room with the toddlers present ...

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:20am:

Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. you keep telling yourself that.  ;D ;D ;D

"The large majority of people who try marijuana do it experimentally and never become addicted. Unlike other substances, pot has very few severe withdrawal symptoms and most people can quit rather easily."

"Compared to other substances, marijuana is not very addicting. It is estimated that 32% of tobacco users will become addicted, 23% of heroin users, 17% of cocaine users, and 15% of alcohol users. Cocaine and heroin are more physically harmful and nicotine is much more addictive. It is much harder to quit smoking cigarettes than it is to quit smoking pot."

"So, to wrap up, is marijuana addictive? For most people, no. About 10% of recreational users will develop problems serve enough to impair their work and relationships."

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/201012/is-marijuana-addictive

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:15am: viewpoint wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:08am: Most hardcore addicts start with cannabis ... Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts. "There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs." Read more: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/#ixzz2sV4lYjzH Totally disagree, and dealers have no problem expanding the drug experience to more serious substances to make more money.

You can disagree all you want, however, without any sort of evidence ... well ...    :-/

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:26am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:20am: Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. you keep telling yourself that.  ;D ;D ;D "The large majority of people who try marijuana do it experimentally and never become addicted. Unlike other substances, pot has very few severe withdrawal symptoms and most people can quit rather easily." "Compared to other substances, marijuana is not very addicting. It is estimated that 32% of tobacco users will become addicted, 23% of heroin users, 17% of cocaine users, and 15% of alcohol users. Cocaine and heroin are more physically harmful and nicotine is much more addictive. It is much harder to quit smoking cigarettes than it is to quit smoking pot." "So, to wrap up, is marijuana addictive? For most people, no. About 10% of recreational users will develop problems serve enough to impair their work and relationships." http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/201012/is-marijuana-addictive

neither are cigarettes addictive if you smoke only one or two and then stop ... I didn't say it makes everyone an addict, even I sank a cone once or twice when I was younger .... but once you start using it regularly, don't pretend you're not addicted. 

Shapelle had a body board bag full... you also can't pretend it was for her own use.

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:26am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:21am: Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc. my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke drink regularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot beer, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix  ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot alcohol they would smoke drink it in a closed room with the toddlers present ...

Excuse me for changing your post, slightly.

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:26am:

The large majority of people who try marijuana do it experimentally and never become addicted

I didn't say those that try it get addicted, I said regular users are addicted .. your little factoid is deceptive ... not everyone that smokes tries a cigarette gets addicted either, do you want to argue that cigarettes aren't addictive?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:26am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:21am: Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc. my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke drink regularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot beer, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix  ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot alcohol they would smoke drink it in a closed room with the toddlers present ... Excuse me for changing your post, slightly.

go for it, and I agree ... with one MAJOR exception... alcohol is legal

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:30am:

Shapelle had a body board bag full... you also can't pretend it was for her own use.

I don't care if she had three tonnes of the stuff: nobody should serve nine years in prison for a cannabis offence.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:34am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:30am: Shapelle had a body board bag full... you also can't pretend it was for her own use. I don't care if she had three tonnes of the stuff: nobody should serve nine years in prison for a cannabis offence.

In a country where smuggling drugs in can result in the death penalty, she's lucky she got 9 years. You don't have to like or agree with their laws , but you do have to respect them. or alternatively, don't go to Malaysia

Pffft.  Ain't you guys seen 'reefer madness'?

100% factual and unbiased, it is. 

Ive never picked up a boogie board that weighed more than 1.5 kg.

For schapelle to pick up a boogie board with 5 kg of drugs stashed in it and carry it over to the customs officer , and then claim she didnt know it was there, is laughable.

I'd give her a 2 month sentence for the weed and 20 years for being a lying b^tch.

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:31am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:26am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:21am: Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc. my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke drink regularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot beer, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix  ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot alcohol they would smoke drink it in a closed room with the toddlers present ... Excuse me for changing your post, slightly. go for it, and I agree ... with one MAJOR exception... alcohol is legal

Yes, but your story wasn't about the law: it was about the effects of drug use.

Alcohol is a drug, and it has the same effects (worse, in fact).

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:15am: viewpoint wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:08am: Most hardcore addicts start with cannabis ... Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts. "There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs." Read more: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/#ixzz2sV4lYjzH Totally disagree, and dealers have no problem expanding the drug experience to more serious substances to make more money. You can disagree all you want, however, without any sort of evidence ... well ...    :-/

Parroting the internet line is not what I'd call knowing what you're talking about.

After seventeen years working dual purpose and specialist DD dogs, and being involved in numerous raids on drug suppliers and dealers, I have witnessed first hand the corruption of youngsters by starting them out on cannabis, thereby fuelling an addictive personality just to encourage the addict to want a "better" more intense experience or high by graduating to much more addictive substances.

I think you'd class that as experience.  [smiley=undecided.gif]

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

After seventeen years working dual purpose and specialist DD dogs, and being involved in numerous raids on drug suppliers and dealers, I have witnessed first hand the corruption of youngsters by starting them out on cannabis

They'd be far more likely to 'start out' on alcohol.  If you're going to overlook that, you forfeit the right to take the 'concerned citizen' angle. 

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:28am: viewpoint wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:15am: viewpoint wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:08am: Most hardcore addicts start with cannabis ... Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts. "There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs." Read more: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/#ixzz2sV4lYjzH Totally disagree, and dealers have no problem expanding the drug experience to more serious substances to make more money. You can disagree all you want, however, without any sort of evidence ... well ...    :-/ Parroting the internet line is not what I'd call knowing what you're talking about. After seventeen years working dual purpose and specialist DD dogs, and being involved in numerous raids on drug suppliers and dealers, I have witnessed first hand the corruption of youngsters by starting them out on cannabis, thereby fuelling an addictive personality just to encourage the addict to want a "better" more intense experience or high by graduating to much more addictive substances. I think you'd class that as experience.  [smiley=undecided.gif]

1. Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts.

2. "There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs."

"Experience" can not change those facts.  Sorry.

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:26am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:21am: Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc. my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke reagularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix  ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot they would smoke it in a closed room with the toddlers present ...

I've seen the same thing when people run out of cigarettes. They'd be like that no matter what their addiction, be it food, alcohol, tobacco, porn, heroin or pot.

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:47am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:44am: After seventeen years working dual purpose and specialist DD dogs, and being involved in numerous raids on drug suppliers and dealers, I have witnessed first hand the corruption of youngsters by starting them out on cannabis They'd be far more likely to 'start out' on alcohol.  If you're going to overlook that, you forfeit the right to take the 'concerned citizen' angle.

Yes.


" ... most drug users begin with alcohol and nicotine before marijuana — usually before they are of legal age.

"In the sense that marijuana use typically precedes rather than follows initiation of other illicit drug use, it is indeed a “gateway” drug. But because underage smoking and alcohol use typically precede marijuana use, marijuana is not the most common, and is rarely the first, “gateway” to illicit drug use. There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs."

http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/#ixzz2sV4lYjzH

Just some light reading about the baggage handlers  ;)

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Baggage-handlers-paid-300000-in-drug-plot/2005/05/11/1115585014740.html

Ian Robert Chalmers mentioned in that article, in cahoots with the baggage handlers, was a Director of Macquarie Bank. Who owns Sydney Airport? Answer = Macquarie Bank perhaps  :o

viewpoint wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:28am: viewpoint wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:15am: viewpoint wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:08am: Most hardcore addicts start with cannabis ... Most cannabis users don't turn into hardcore addicts. "There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs." Read more: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/#ixzz2sV4lYjzH Totally disagree, and dealers have no problem expanding the drug experience to more serious substances to make more money. You can disagree all you want, however, without any sort of evidence ... well ...    :-/ Parroting the internet line is not what I'd call knowing what you're talking about. After seventeen years working dual purpose and specialist DD dogs, and being involved in numerous raids on drug suppliers and dealers, I have witnessed first hand the corruption of youngsters by starting them out on cannabis, thereby fuelling an addictive personality just to encourage the addict to want a "better" more intense experience or high by graduating to much more addictive substances. I think you'd class that as experience.  [smiley=undecided.gif]

Being at one end of the law enforcement process in a relatively minor role doesn't give you any special experience. In fact the substance of your post has told us what you don't know.  Really what you have stated is rubbish. No one invvolved in substance abuse counselling  or rehabilitation would parrot such nonsense.

the glaring elephant int he room is that nobody smuggles drugs INTO the country. They are all trying to smuggle it OUT because its so cheap there. If she was so experienced with it as the trolls think then she would know that - if not then she wouldn't have had it. Basically this means she didnt do it.

SOB

Re: alcohol or marijuana, effects different people in different ways, and if one is predisposed to the effects of it moreso, will react or act very differently to say, the next person.
The only trouble is, the younger a person is when using pot, or alcohol, the more it is likely to effect their maturing process.
Marijuana does have beneficial medicinal properties, if used correctly and for the right reasons, but as with anything, nothing exceeds like excess, and then....one becomes unbalanced in many ways.
Those that I know that smoke pot, have done so for years and can't shake the habit, same as it those that have been drinking for years.....name your poison, and there is your addiction, mine happens to be chocolate...ah yes, death by chocolate  ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:42am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:33am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:31am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:26am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:21am: Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc. my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke drink regularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot beer, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix  ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot alcohol they would smoke drink it in a closed room with the toddlers present ... Excuse me for changing your post, slightly. go for it, and I agree ... with one MAJOR exception... alcohol is legal Yes, but your story wasn't about the law: it was about the effects of drug use. Alcohol is a drug, and it has the same effects (worse, in fact).

my story was to highlight the myth that marijuana has no ill effects ... the legality of it didn't come into it, and i agree wholehartedly that alcohol is just as bad if not worse ... but we aren't talking about alcohol, we're talking about importing drugs

stevieboy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:26am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:21am: Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc. my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke reagularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix  ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot they would smoke it in a closed room with the toddlers present ... I've seen the same thing when people run out of cigarettes. They'd be like that no matter what their addiction, be it food, alcohol, tobacco, porn, heroin or pot.

so you agree that marijuana is not an innocent drug and can have bad side effects?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

the glaring elephant int he room is that nobody smuggles drugs INTO the country. They are all trying to smuggle it OUT because its so cheap there. If she was so experienced with it as the trolls think then she would know that - if not then she wouldn't have had it. Basically this means she didnt do it. SOB

you're assuming that she had half a brain ... the evidence suggests she doesn't

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:42am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:33am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:31am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:26am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:21am: Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:12am: I hope part of her parole conditions are that she can't leave the country ... we don't need more junkies here. Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John. Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'. Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. Except for people who it damages psychologically with schizophrenia etc. my ex girlfriends family all used to smoke drink regularly, they were always broke, and everytime they ran out of pot beer, they would all get abusive because they hadn't had their fix  ... husband and wife would fight (physically) in front of toddlers .... Kat wants to pretend that it's harmless ... this went on for years they used to piss me off because when they did have their pot alcohol they would smoke drink it in a closed room with the toddlers present ... Excuse me for changing your post, slightly. go for it, and I agree ... with one MAJOR exception... alcohol is legal Yes, but your story wasn't about the law: it was about the effects of drug use. Alcohol is a drug, and it has the same effects (worse, in fact). my story was to highlight the myth that marijuana has no ill effects ... the legality of it didn't come into it, and i agree wholehartedly that alcohol is just as bad if not worse ... but we aren't talking about alcohol, we're talking about importing drugs

Nobody was perpetuating that myth in this thread.

Unless I missed a post.    :-/

Getting back to Schapelle.....

the baggage handlers stuffed up, they should have removed the drugs in Sydney apparently. Schapelle flew from Brisbane to Sydney, and then on to Bali.
She was an innocent drug mule.

At that same time, why my friend's son had his boogie board go missing and it was located in Darwin after they made lodged their enquiry to locate it. Strange but oh so coincidental  ;)

UN figures claimed that high-grade marijuana was selling in Australia (around the time Schapelle flew), for $US31 a gram - while the highest price in Indonesia was US30 cents a gram.
Hmmmm....why would one take a loss taking it to Indonesia?

incorrect, there is a huge demand for top quality hydropnic marijuana in Bali, it has been shown that the street price is higher than Australia. The locallly grown stuff is a very inferior quality.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:40am:

Ive never picked up a boogie board that weighed more than 1.5 kg. For schapelle to pick up a boogie board with 5 kg of drugs stashed in it and carry it over to the customs officer , and then claim she didnt know it was there, is laughable. I'd give her a 2 month sentence for the weed and 20 years for being a lying b^tch.

If you were packing a boogie board in side a boogie board bag, would you not pack a few extra things in there as well (shoes, toiletries, etc).  Seems logical to me. Meaning it would weigh more than 1.5 kg.

By Australian standards, she's served more time than the crime warranted.  She'll make a killing on the book and movie deals.

Sophia wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:24pm:

Getting back to Schapelle..... the baggage handlers stuffed up, they should have removed the drugs in Sydney apparently. Schapelle flew from Brisbane to Sydney, and then on to Bali. She was an innocent drug mule. At that same time, why my friend's son had his boogie board go missing and it was located in Darwin after they made lodged their enquiry to locate it. Strange but oh so coincidental  ;) UN figures claimed that high-grade marijuana was selling in Australia (around the time Schapelle flew), for $US31 a gram - while the highest price in Indonesia was US30 cents a gram. Hmmmm....why would one take a loss taking it to Indonesia?

Both these myths were busted quite early on.

ian wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

incorrect, there is a huge demand for top quality hydropnic marijuana in Bali, it has been shown that the street price is higher than Australia. The locallly grown stuff is a very inferior quality.

So confusing and conflicting, here is a link for now, maybe some more to follow for this contraversy at that particular time.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-54GtzAdCOv4/ThgnLDxbMKI/AAAAAAAABZk/nVvTdao5KdY/s1600/no%2Bflow%2Bjpeg.jpg

toothpaste - check
make-up bag - check
towel and bathers - check
5kg bag of pot - check.... oops, no room in the suitcase so throws it in the boogy board cover. Hoping it makes it thru to Denpasar via Sydney. That's a huge bag. Such little attempt to conceal it. I'm going with the baggage handlers trafficking it interstate from Bris to Syd and they lost track of it. :-?

ian wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:27pm:

Sophia wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:24pm: Getting back to Schapelle..... the baggage handlers stuffed up, they should have removed the drugs in Sydney apparently. Schapelle flew from Brisbane to Sydney, and then on to Bali. She was an innocent drug mule. At that same time, why my friend's son had his boogie board go missing and it was located in Darwin after they made lodged their enquiry to locate it. Strange but oh so coincidental  ;) UN figures claimed that high-grade marijuana was selling in Australia (around the time Schapelle flew), for $US31 a gram - while the highest price in Indonesia was US30 cents a gram. Hmmmm....why would one take a loss taking it to Indonesia? Both these myths were busted quite early on.

Links please Ian  :)

Sophia wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

ian wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:26pm: incorrect, there is a huge demand for top quality hydropnic marijuana in Bali, it has been shown that the street price is higher than Australia. The locallly grown stuff is a very inferior quality. So confusing and conflicting, here is a link for now, maybe some more to follow for this contraversy at that particular time. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-54GtzAdCOv4/ThgnLDxbMKI/AAAAAAAABZk/nVvTdao5KdY/s1600/no%2Bflow%2Bjpeg.jpg

Im not interested in "blog spots" the circumstance of Corby;s arrest has been exhaustively investigated and the baggage handling claim was found to be completely  erroneous and fabricated by her first lawyer.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:18pm:

Nobody was perpetuating that myth in this thread.

no? not how I read it .... especially the highlighted bit


Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'.Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

Sophia wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:39pm:

That's a huge bag. Such little attempt to conceal it

anyone who would attempt to smuggle drugs into a country that has the death penalty has already proven they aren't the brightest bulb in the pack ... why would you assume they suddenly develop some intelligence when it comes to hiding drugs?

Weed's got its own ill effects, though they're relatively mild and insidious.  Unless you're getting stoned all the time, they're negligible.

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:58pm:

Weed's got its own ill effects, though they're relatively mild and insidious.  Unless you're getting stoned all the time, they're negligible.

when was the last time you went for a drive to Nimbin?  ;D ;D ;D

never.  why?

weed is a loser drug.
its a downer.

eccies and coke would be sensible choices.

alcohol and speed lead to paranoia and personality change..avoid

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:10pm:

weed is a loser drug. its a downer. eccies and coke would be sensible choices. alcohol and speed lead to paranoia and personality change..avoid

idiot post of the year. Both these drugs are linked to a high number of deaths and severe mental illness.

ian wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:10pm: weed is a loser drug. its a downer. eccies and coke would be sensible choices. alcohol and speed lead to paranoia and personality change..avoid idiot post of the year. Both these drugs are linked to a high number of deaths and severe mental illness.

Schapelle Corby's former lawyer says she was joking when she suggested the convicted drug smuggler would celebrate her release by rolling up a joint and smoking it.

Asked what she thought Corby would do when released, lawyer Kerry Smith-Douglas replied she would celebrate.

"She'll probably pop a cork of champagne and then roll up a big marijuana joint the size of a cigar and kick back and enjoy herself," she told the Nine Network.

;D ;D ;D ;DWELL HER IDIOT EX LAWYER MIGHT HAVE JUST BLOWN HER PAROLE   ;D ;D ;D

Surely anyone that talks to Karl Stefanovic wouldn't be taken seriously, the lawyer blew her credibility right there.

Quote:

WELL HER IDIOT EX LAWYER MIGHT HAVE JUST BLOWN HER PAROLE

Yep what an imbecile .... wouldn't want a nong like her representing me....

but you have to think .... that would be just the type of person the Corbys would pick.

As for weed being harmless ..... that's BS..... my son "was" a chronic abuser & along with alcohol abuse his life was heading nowhere fast & nowhere good.

Angry, couldn't give a ferk about anything or anyone, spoke to friends & family like they were dogs, weird ideas as to right & wrong..... a complete wasted waster.

Hung around with other losers(birds of a feather).... it took losing a job & getting one where they regularly drug test to get him off it.


Quote:

eccies and coke would be sensible choices. alcohol and speed lead to paranoia and personality change..avoid

Quote:

idiot post of the year. Both these drugs are linked to a high number of deaths and severe mental illness.

I'll second that ..... what a moron.

ian wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:10pm: weed is a loser drug. its a downer. eccies and coke would be sensible choices. alcohol and speed lead to paranoia and personality change..avoid idiot post of the year. Both these drugs are linked to a high number of deaths and severe mental illness.

fair enough with coke, but ecstasy (ie actual MDMA) has bugger all negative side effects.

well, pure MDMA in the right circumstances, I agree. try and buy pure MDMA on the street though. Impossible. The vast majority sold as E is a mix of amphetamines and another drug (usually ketamine or something similar). So when people talk about "eccies" thye are really referring to the latter.

Yes crap laced with other crap

& already proven dangerous/fatal.

Cocaine & Heroin are also cut with garbage

it's when it hits the streets in purer forms it kills
lots of Junkies

maybe that's a good thing?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/0140673610614626fig2.jpg

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:10pm:

weed is a loser drug. its a downer. eccies and coke would be sensible choices. alcohol and speed lead to paranoia and personality change..avoid

Weed only effects some ppl as a downer. For others its an upper and still others it has no effect @ all.

SOB

ian wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:10pm: weed is a loser drug. its a downer. eccies and coke would be sensible choices. alcohol and speed lead to paranoia and personality change..avoid idiot post of the year. Both these drugs are linked to a high number of deaths and severe mental illness.

Well now you know what his problem is

SOB

Gnads wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 2:55pm:

Quote: WELL HER IDIOT EX LAWYER MIGHT HAVE JUST BLOWN HER PAROLE Yep what an imbecile .... wouldn't want a nong like her representing me.... but you have to think .... that would be just the type of person the Corbys would pick. As for weed being harmless ..... that's BS..... my son "was" a chronic abuser & along with alcohol abuse his life was heading nowhere fast & nowhere good. Angry, couldn't give a ferk about anything or anyone, spoke to friends & family like they were dogs, weird ideas as to right & wrong..... a complete wasted waster. Hung around with other losers(birds of a feather).... it took losing a job & getting one where they regularly drug test to get him off it. [quote]eccies and coke would be sensible choices. alcohol and speed lead to paranoia and personality change..avoid

Quote:

idiot post of the year. Both these drugs are linked to a high number of deaths and severe mental illness.

I'll second that ..... what a moron.[/quote]

Seriously? You going to blame weed for his personality problems? If weed was the cause then all weed smokers would be like that. They arent.

SOB

Do you understand "chronic" abuse?

And I've never met a "stoner" that wasn't similar.

As for personalities ... just like other mind altering drugs weed will change their personalities or over do certain traits

weed isn't just "weed" these days ...... the THC levels are massively higher

& the use of chemicals in hydroponically grown weed has an affect on the psychosis of many users

not all weed smokers are just the occasional "joint with a latte" set. ::)

Sophia wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:50am: hopefully the media don't stuff this up  >:( she's done her time... let her go  >:( Agree. But what riles me, is the stuff up with the hash in her boogie board...they did not test it as to where it came from. And then, they burnt the evidence. Too many stuff ups all along the way. I don't believe she put it there, never have. She has taking the rap for someone else. Oh, and, a friend and her 15 yr old son, coming home from Queensland to Victoria, his boogie board went missing (some time in the same year as Corby's trial).....well, they eventually located it....coming back from Darwin.....now how is it that it went to Darwin in the first place? Because they are closer to Bali than any other place in Oz? Makes me wonder, if a peodophile wants access to kids, he would become a priest, or a boy scout, or teacher in a home for boys etc. If a drug peddlar wants to have access or peddle drugs, wouldn't it be easier, at that time, to then be a baggage handler? I have read stories of 2 couples, that went to Bali for a holiday together, and one of the gents noticed his suitcase has a missing lock. He found a bag of hash in his suitcase, he rang the Australian consulate, and they told him, not to report it to the Balinese police etc. Just flush it down the toilet, they told him. Now, they have a service where you can glad wrap your bag. Obviously there's a reason for that at airports when that service came in?

Interesting  :o

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:07pm:

never.  why?

stop in Nimbin one day and then see if you still think your comment is true,.

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 4:15pm:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? stop in Nimbin one day and then see if you still think your comment is true,.

Since the place is known for nothing but wmoking weed, wouldn't you think that'd fall into the "smoking all the time" category?


... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:58pm:

Weed's got its own ill effects, though they're relatively mild and insidious.  Unless you're getting stoned all the time, they're negligible.

Question -Is the Schapelle Corby matter the most reported subject on the Media for the last decade?

I'm backing it in...every last cringe worthy, drawn out, melodramatic moment of it.

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 4:15pm:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? stop in Nimbin one day and then see if you still think your comment is true,.

;D ;D Isn't that were the HILL BILLY  SKIPPY lives   ;D ;D  in the little valley  ;D ;D

What's with this media claim that she is about to get 'freedom?' 

Rubbish.....she will be on parole, and that involves conditions, and if I were her, I'd be telling Indonesia that the proposed broadcast by Ch. 9 of a movie about me was something they did against my wishes.

I'd also tell them that my former 'lawyer' is a retard.

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 5:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 4:15pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? stop in Nimbin one day and then see if you still think your comment is true,. Since the place is known for nothing but wmoking weed, wouldn't you think that'd fall into the "smoking all the time" category? ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:58pm: Weed's got its own ill effects, though they're relatively mild and insidious.  Unless you're getting stoned all the time, they're negligible.

Why is it when talking about the benefits or 'non effects' of smoking weed, people only talk about the casual smokers? Of course I'm talking about those that smoke all the time, got to that position by smoking casually first.

woody2014 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 4:15pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? stop in Nimbin one day and then see if you still think your comment is true,. ;D ;D Isn't that were the HILL BILLY  SKIPPY lives   ;D ;D  in the little valley  ;D ;D

why? you looking for a date?

Aussie wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:05pm:

What's with this media claim that she is about to get 'freedom?'  Rubbish.....she will be on parole, and that involves conditions, and if I were her, I'd be telling Indonesia that the proposed broadcast by Ch. 9 of a movie about me was something they did against my wishes. I'd also tell them that my former 'lawyer' is a retard.

I'd also tell them that my former 'lawyer' is a retard.[/quote]

;D ;D THAT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

woody2014 wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 4:15pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? stop in Nimbin one day and then see if you still think your comment is true,. ;D ;D Isn't that were the HILL BILLY  SKIPPY lives   ;D ;D  in the little valley  ;D ;D why? you looking for a date?

What the f***k  you smoking   >:( >:( >:(

Quote:

weed isn't just "weed" these days ...... the THC levels are massively higher

Massively higher?
The best gear of today has maybe five times the THC of the best gear of the 1960s.
That multiplier tapers off with the quality of the gear - bush of today is much like bush of yesteryear. Average heads are much like average heads of before.

The "massive THC compared with before" idiocy is a frightener in a similar vein to the good ol' "drug x is instantly addictive" one we often get fed by the media.

stevieboy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:54am:

Good luck Schapelle! You did yourself proud.

What proud about criminal Schapelle?

woody2014 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:05pm: What's with this media claim that she is about to get 'freedom?'  Rubbish.....she will be on parole, and that involves conditions, and if I were her, I'd be telling Indonesia that the proposed broadcast by Ch. 9 of a movie about me was something they did against my wishes. I'd also tell them that my former 'lawyer' is a retard. I'd also tell them that my former 'lawyer' is a retard.

;D ;D THAT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

Mr Yesterday's Man.....this woman is simply dangerous and it amazes me that she still has a Practicing Certificate.  The bint is a drug abuser herself (well, she was when I knew her) and all you need to do is a simple Google on her name, and ..... all is revealed.

woody2014 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:14pm: woody2014 wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 4:15pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? stop in Nimbin one day and then see if you still think your comment is true,. ;D ;D Isn't that were the HILL BILLY  SKIPPY lives   ;D ;D  in the little valley  ;D ;D why? you looking for a date? What the f***k  you smoking   >:( >:( >:(

not pot thats for sure

Aussie wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:05pm:

What's with this media claim that she is about to get 'freedom?'  Rubbish.....she will be on parole, and that involves conditions, and if I were her, I'd be telling Indonesia that the proposed broadcast by Ch. 9 of a movie about me was something they did against my wishes. I'd also tell them that my former 'lawyer' is a retard.

yes....incredibly stupid person........

http://www.smh.com.au/world/schapelle-corbys-exlawyer-downplays-big-marijuana-joint-comments-20140206-hvbf2.html

red baron wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 5:36pm:

Question -Is the Schapelle Corby matter the most reported subject on the Media for the last decade? I'm backing it in...every last cringe worthy, drawn out, melodramatic moment of it.

yeah I just wish they'd shut the hell up.. she'd be out by now...


and John... I hope she gets a few bucks...

to be honest, I think she's lost her marbles now so if a few bucks make things easier then so be it...

chopper Read made a heap from all his shenanigans... no one begrudged him making a few bucks out of killing people..


where's the balance??  :-?

Alinta wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:05pm: What's with this media claim that she is about to get 'freedom?'  Rubbish.....she will be on parole, and that involves conditions, and if I were her, I'd be telling Indonesia that the proposed broadcast by Ch. 9 of a movie about me was something they did against my wishes. I'd also tell them that my former 'lawyer' is a retard. yes....incredibly stupid person........ http://www.smh.com.au/world/schapelle-corbys-exlawyer-downplays-big-marijuana-joint-comments-20140206-hvbf2.html

what a stupid idiotic freak...  >:(

I blame the media for putting a nutcase like that on national TV...  >:(

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 5:36pm: Question -Is the Schapelle Corby matter the most reported subject on the Media for the last decade? I'm backing it in...every last cringe worthy, drawn out, melodramatic moment of it. yeah I just wish they'd shut the hell up.. she'd be out by now... and John... I hope she gets a few bucks... to be honest, I think she's lost her marbles now so if a few bucks make things easier then so be it... chopper Read made a heap from all his shenanigans... no one begrudged him making a few bucks out of killing people.. where's the balance??  :-?

she shouldn't be allowed to make any money ... not a single cent. Unless she wants to use her notoriety to push up her fee for appearing in playboy or something ... and Chopper Read is not a reason for her being allowed to profit from it he's just an excuse ...

by the way, I disagreed with Chopper being allowed to profit from his crimes as well.

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 5:36pm: Question -Is the Schapelle Corby matter the most reported subject on the Media for the last decade? I'm backing it in...every last cringe worthy, drawn out, melodramatic moment of it. yeah I just wish they'd shut the hell up.. she'd be out by now... and John... I hope she gets a few bucks... to be honest, I think she's lost her marbles now so if a few bucks make things easier then so be it... chopper Read made a heap from all his shenanigans... no one begrudged him making a few bucks out of killing people.. where's the balance??  :-?

Yeas, Mr Blue.....balance. 

For years, we have seen idiotic zealots bunging on all sorts of absolute rubbish, we have seen all sorts of theories, we have even seen some dick-head (paid by Corby interests) blow his professional integrity by claiming that if she was not released immediately, she would perish......that was years ago.

Nah.

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:25pm:

Quote: weed isn't just "weed" these days ...... the THC levels are massively higher Massively higher? The best gear of today has maybe five times the THC of the best gear of the 1960s. That multiplier tapers off with the quality of the gear - bush of today is much like bush of yesteryear. Average heads are much like average heads of before. The "massive THC compared with before" idiocy is a frightener in a similar vein to the good ol' "drug x is instantly addictive" one we often get fed by the media.

The same old shyte I used to hear from my son ::)

Did I mention "instant" addiction?

Oh btw ... 5 times as strong is massive in my books.

And whether or not it is "bush" grown or hydro..... the type of plant which has been selected & improved since the 60's will hold the same THC strengths. The difference is in the growth rates.... hydro being faster to reach maturity. 

Sophia wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:40pm:

ian wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:27pm: Sophia wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:24pm: Getting back to Schapelle..... the baggage handlers stuffed up, they should have removed the drugs in Sydney apparently. Schapelle flew from Brisbane to Sydney, and then on to Bali. She was an innocent drug mule. At that same time, why my friend's son had his boogie board go missing and it was located in Darwin after they made lodged their enquiry to locate it. Strange but oh so coincidental  ;) UN figures claimed that high-grade marijuana was selling in Australia (around the time Schapelle flew), for $US31 a gram - while the highest price in Indonesia was US30 cents a gram. Hmmmm....why would one take a loss taking it to Indonesia? Both these myths were busted quite early on. Links please Ian  :)

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1368069.htm

and since 2005 drug smuggling baggage handlers at Sydney Airport continue to be sacked...

how they can be sacked and all swept under the carpet is a crime...  >:(

I recall that they sacked another 5 of them in 2013...

but oh no...

according to IAN... doesn't happen...

struth ian... do you ever get sick of being wrong  ::)

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 6:13pm:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 5:09pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 4:15pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? stop in Nimbin one day and then see if you still think your comment is true,. Since the place is known for nothing but wmoking weed, wouldn't you think that'd fall into the "smoking all the time" category? ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:58pm: Weed's got its own ill effects, though they're relatively mild and insidious.  Unless you're getting stoned all the time, they're negligible. Why is it when talking about the benefits or 'non effects' of smoking weed, people only talk about the casual smokers? Of course I'm talking about those that smoke all the time, got to that position by smoking casually first.

So? Being a lazy front bottom is a relatively mild side effect compared to death.  And that's about ad far as it goes.

Gnads wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:10pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:25pm: Quote: weed isn't just "weed" these days ...... the THC levels are massively higher Massively higher? The best gear of today has maybe five times the THC of the best gear of the 1960s. That multiplier tapers off with the quality of the gear - bush of today is much like bush of yesteryear. Average heads are much like average heads of before. The "massive THC compared with before" idiocy is a frightener in a similar vein to the good ol' "drug x is instantly addictive" one we often get fed by the media. The same old shyte I used to hear from my son ::) Did I mention "instant" addiction? Oh btw ... 5 times as strong is massive in my books. And whether or not it is "bush" grown or hydro..... the type of plant which has been selected & improved since the 60's will hold the same THC strengths. The difference is in the growth rates.... hydro being faster to reach maturity.

Spirits are about 8x stronger than beer, but it doesnt matter because you drink less of it.

Aussie wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:52pm: red baron wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 5:36pm: Question -Is the Schapelle Corby matter the most reported subject on the Media for the last decade? I'm backing it in...every last cringe worthy, drawn out, melodramatic moment of it. yeah I just wish they'd shut the hell up.. she'd be out by now... and John... I hope she gets a few bucks... to be honest, I think she's lost her marbles now so if a few bucks make things easier then so be it... chopper Read made a heap from all his shenanigans... no one begrudged him making a few bucks out of killing people.. where's the balance??  :-? Yeas, Mr Blue.....balance.  For years, we have seen idiotic zealots bunging on all sorts of absolute rubbish, we have seen all sorts of theories, we have even seen some dick-head (paid by Corby interests) blow his professional integrity by claiming that if she was not released immediately, she would perish......that was years ago. Nah.

I don't think anyone thought she'd perish..

but you can see by the look of her that she's a changed woman... mentally...

no sane person lights their hair on fire... etc...

it would have been far easier to plead guilty and convert to islam.. she'd have been out years ago... you need to learn how to play the game...  ;) ;)

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:13pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 5:09pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 4:15pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? stop in Nimbin one day and then see if you still think your comment is true,. Since the place is known for nothing but wmoking weed, wouldn't you think that'd fall into the "smoking all the time" category? ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:58pm: Weed's got its own ill effects, though they're relatively mild and insidious.  Unless you're getting stoned all the time, they're negligible. Why is it when talking about the benefits or 'non effects' of smoking weed, people only talk about the casual smokers? Of course I'm talking about those that smoke all the time, got to that position by smoking casually first. So? Being a lazy nice person is a relatively mild side effect compared to death.  And that's about ad far as it goes.

bullsh1t ... smoke it long enough and often enough and it can make them aggro, or schitzo.....

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:16pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:04pm: True Blue... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:52pm: red baron wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 5:36pm: Question -Is the Schapelle Corby matter the most reported subject on the Media for the last decade? I'm backing it in...every last cringe worthy, drawn out, melodramatic moment of it. yeah I just wish they'd shut the hell up.. she'd be out by now... and John... I hope she gets a few bucks... to be honest, I think she's lost her marbles now so if a few bucks make things easier then so be it... chopper Read made a heap from all his shenanigans... no one begrudged him making a few bucks out of killing people.. where's the balance??  :-? Yeas, Mr Blue.....balance.  For years, we have seen idiotic zealots bunging on all sorts of absolute rubbish, we have seen all sorts of theories, we have even seen some dick-head (paid by Corby interests) blow his professional integrity by claiming that if she was not released immediately, she would perish......that was years ago. Nah. I don't think anyone thought she'd perish.. but you can see by the look of her that she's a changed woman... mentally... no sane person lights their hair on fire...etc... it would have been far easier to plead guilty and convert to islam.. she'd have been out years ago... you need to learn how to play the game...  ;) ;)

they would if they thought it would get them out of serving 25yrs jail ... besides, she's in jail, it's not like she needed her hair to look nice so that she could go on a date.

Where'd you hear that?

Latest news ....... the Corbys are denying that that weird Lawyer has ever represented them or Schapelle.

And the Prison Governor is saying the parole could be delayed by further bureaucratic processes.

The plot thickens ;D

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:10pm: Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:25pm: Quote: weed isn't just "weed" these days ...... the THC levels are massively higher Massively higher? The best gear of today has maybe five times the THC of the best gear of the 1960s. That multiplier tapers off with the quality of the gear - bush of today is much like bush of yesteryear. Average heads are much like average heads of before. The "massive THC compared with before" idiocy is a frightener in a similar vein to the good ol' "drug x is instantly addictive" one we often get fed by the media. The same old shyte I used to hear from my son ::) Did I mention "instant" addiction? Oh btw ... 5 times as strong is massive in my books. And whether or not it is "bush" grown or hydro..... the type of plant which has been selected & improved since the 60's will hold the same THC strengths. The difference is in the growth rates.... hydro being faster to reach maturity.  Spirits are about 8x stronger than beer, but it doesnt matter because you drink less of it.

I don't think most spirit drinkers would drink less ..... probably do more liver damage.... but I wouldn't say less.

Care Level ==> .

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

Where'd you hear that?

seen it plenty of times ...

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:19pm: Where'd you hear that? seen it plenty of times ...

I concur

Gnads wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

Latest news ....... the Corbys are denying that that weird Lawyer has ever represented them or Schapelle. And the Prison Governor is saying the parole could be delayed by further bureaucratic processes. The plot thickens ;D

in the link that was provided about that nincompoop so called Lawyer they use the term.. "she was Corby's purported Lawyer"  ::)

I'm sure you have.  Doesn't make it true though.

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:27pm:

I'm sure you have.  Doesn't make it true though.

what are you talking about...

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:28pm:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:27pm: I'm sure you have.  Doesn't make it true though. what are you talking about...

I'm talking to agent smith.

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:27pm:

I'm sure you have.  Doesn't make it true though.

So what are you saying?

That I'm a liar?

You're still shyting yellow but does that make all you post lies?

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:30pm:

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:28pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:27pm: I'm sure you have.  Doesn't make it true though. what are you talking about... I'm talking to agent smith.

whats he talking about..  :-?

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 1:07pm:

never.  why?

Really?  Never been to Nimbin?  You should go.

It's an experience   [smiley=happy.gif]

Gnads wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:27pm: I'm sure you have.  Doesn't make it true though. So what are you saying? That I'm a liar? You're still shyting yellow but does that make all you post lies?

No, not that you're a liar, just that you don't know what youre talking about.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? Really?  Never been to Nimbin?  You should go. It's an experience   [smiley=happy.gif]

Yeah with 8 to 10 yr olds trying to flog you drugs in the street ...... & not just pot.

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:18pm: Nobody was perpetuating that myth in this thread. no? not how I read it .... especially the highlighted bit Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'.Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

No.  You read it wrong.

" ... has no ill effects".

Nobody is saying it has NO ill effects.

It certainly has some ill effects, however, not those particular ill effects.

Gnads wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:34pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? Really?  Never been to Nimbin?  You should go. It's an experience   [smiley=happy.gif] Yeah with 8 to 10 yr olds trying to flog you drugs in the street ...... & not just pot.

Yep.

The last time I drove into Nimbin I was approached by a 10 year old kid on a bike selling pot before I had even got out of my parked car and locked the door.

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:31pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:27pm: I'm sure you have.  Doesn't make it true though. So what are you saying? That I'm a liar? You're still shyting yellow but does that make all you post lies? No, not that you're a liar, just that you don't know what youre talking about.

No you're calling me a liar. And of course I'd have to defer to your vast experience & superior knowledge no doubt. ::)

Jesus wept .... the place is full of juvenile knowalls.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:34pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? Really?  Never been to Nimbin?  You should go. It's an experience   [smiley=happy.gif] Yeah with 8 to 10 yr olds trying to flog you drugs in the street ...... & not just pot. Yep. The last time I drove into Nimbin I was approached by a 10 year old kid on a bike selling pot before I had even got out of my parked car and locked the door.

gessus....  :o

**

Gnads wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:36pm: Gnads wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:31pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:27pm: I'm sure you have.  Doesn't make it true though. So what are you saying? That I'm a liar? You're still shyting yellow but does that make all you post lies? No, not that you're a liar, just that you don't know what youre talking about. No you're calling me a liar. And of course I'd have to defer to your vast experience & superior knowledge no doubt. ::) Jesus wept .... the place is full of juvenile knowalls.

No, lying is knowingly spreading untruths.
If you genuinely believe it, it's not lying.  Don't need to know all to know that.

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:40pm: Gnads wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:34pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? Really?  Never been to Nimbin?  You should go. It's an experience   [smiley=happy.gif] Yeah with 8 to 10 yr olds trying to flog you drugs in the street ...... & not just pot. Yep. The last time I drove into Nimbin I was approached by a 10 year old kid on a bike selling pot before I had even got out of my parked car and locked the door. gessus....  :o

Yep.  Not a word of a lie.

And after I got out of the car, I was approached by two more, around the 12 - 14 age.

http://davethemonkey.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/dsc00085-thumb.jpg


The soup was nice, but the place is full of dirty stinking hippies.

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1368069.htm and since 2005 drug smuggling baggage handlers at Sydney Airport continue to be sacked... how they can be sacked and all swept under the carpet is a crime...  >:( I recall that they sacked another 5 of them in 2013... but oh no... according to IAN... doesn't happen... struth ian... do you ever get sick of being wrong  ::)

Lol, own goal. Read your link and then directly quote me the bit where it states baggage handlers were planting drugs in passengers suitcases. the baggage handler theory was totally fabricated by Corbys' first lawyer, a fact he admitted publically to. Try again.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/new-schapelle-corby-theory-emerges-20110630-1gss8.html

Quote:

It's not the first time claims have emerged about baggage handlers planting marijuana in Corby's bags. In 2008 unionists demanded a public apology over an "outrageous allegation" that Australian baggage handlers tampered with Corby's luggage. Corby's former lawyer Robin Tampoe later admitted he made up the theory after hearing a talkback program where callers were discussing alleged corruption among airport staff.

Its not hard to examine the basic facts of the case and draw a conclusion based on actual fact. Im not sure why people insist on sticking to outlandish bizarre theories instead of what stares them in the face. I suppose it suits the sheep to believe that some nameless person was the culprit, someone who will never be brought to conviction but the sheep can shake their fists and shout slogans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schapelle_Corby

Quote:

James Kisina's arrest[edit] Kisina was travelling with Corby when she was arrested in Bali. He had also been carrying the bodyboard bag before the arrest and had appeared in the media to support his sister.[95] On the same day as the reinstatement of Corby's original sentence, Kisina appeared in a Brisbane magistrates court on drug possession and assault charges.[96] Kisina, along with two friends, invaded the home of a well-known drug dealer, tied up the occupants and assaulted a male occupant before fleeing with a quantity of cannabis and cash.[95] Police stated that the residents were threatened with an iron bar and menaced with a machete. On 17 January 2006, Queensland Police found cannabis in the home of Schapelle Corby's mother and half-brother.[97] Police stated that the house which Kisina had broken into had been watched by police for some time and that the occupant of the home was a known drug dealer. Kisina's lawyer denied this contention and claimed his client broke into the home believing its occupants may have had information that could assist in Schapelle Corby's sentence appeal.[98] On 8 March 2006, Kisina appeared in the Beenleigh Magistrates Court in relation to the drug-related home invasion and was committed to stand trial after a committal hearing in June. In Beenleigh District Court, on 13 October 2006, Kisina pleaded guilty to eight charges: two counts of deprivation of liberty, two counts of assault occasioning bodily harm and one count each of producing a dangerous drug, possessing a dangerous drug, possessing an item used in a criminal offence and entering a dwelling. He was sentenced on 16 October 2006 to four years' imprisonment, to be suspended after 10 months. Kisina had spent 9 months on remand. He was released from prison on 18 November 2006.[99] A senior Queensland Police detective raised a link between Kisina and Corby's arrest in Bali, but later admitted his claims did not meet the "standard of proof" required to take action against Kisina.[100]

ian wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:57pm:

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:11pm: http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1368069.htm and since 2005 drug smuggling baggage handlers at Sydney Airport continue to be sacked... how they can be sacked and all swept under the carpet is a crime...  >:( I recall that they sacked another 5 of them in 2013... but oh no... according to IAN... doesn't happen... struth ian... do you ever get sick of being wrong  ::) Lol, own goal. Read your link and then directly quote me the bit where it states baggage handlers were planting drugs in passengers suitcases. the baggage handler theory was totally fabricated by Corbys' first lawyer, a fact he admitted publically to. Try again.

Are you saying that baggage handlers haven't been dismissed for smuggling drugs??

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong.

They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation
for ruining her life.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life.

Exactly: I was putting up yellow ribbons for her but everyone dismissed my suggestions she was innocent!

"I dunno, ......." was all anyone said if you brought it up-->  Perth is very backwards but ya all know that!   ::)

ian wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:08pm:

Its not hard to examine the basic facts of the case and draw a conclusion based on actual fact. Im not sure why people insist on sticking to outlandish bizarre theories instead of what stares them in the face. I suppose it suits the sheep to believe that some nameless person was the culprit, someone who will never be brought to conviction but the sheep can shake their fists and shout slogans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schapelle_Corby Quote: James Kisina's arrest[edit] Kisina was travelling with Corby when she was arrested in Bali. He had also been carrying the bodyboard bag before the arrest and had appeared in the media to support his sister.[95] On the same day as the reinstatement of Corby's original sentence, Kisina appeared in a Brisbane magistrates court on drug possession and assault charges.[96] Kisina, along with two friends, invaded the home of a well-known drug dealer, tied up the occupants and assaulted a male occupant before fleeing with a quantity of cannabis and cash.[95] Police stated that the residents were threatened with an iron bar and menaced with a machete. On 17 January 2006, Queensland Police found cannabis in the home of Schapelle Corby's mother and half-brother.[97] Police stated that the house which Kisina had broken into had been watched by police for some time and that the occupant of the home was a known drug dealer. Kisina's lawyer denied this contention and claimed his client broke into the home believing its occupants may have had information that could assist in Schapelle Corby's sentence appeal.[98] On 8 March 2006, Kisina appeared in the Beenleigh Magistrates Court in relation to the drug-related home invasion and was committed to stand trial after a committal hearing in June. In Beenleigh District Court, on 13 October 2006, Kisina pleaded guilty to eight charges: two counts of deprivation of liberty, two counts of assault occasioning bodily harm and one count each of producing a dangerous drug, possessing a dangerous drug, possessing an item used in a criminal offence and entering a dwelling. He was sentenced on 16 October 2006 to four years' imprisonment, to be suspended after 10 months. Kisina had spent 9 months on remand. He was released from prison on 18 November 2006.[99] A senior Queensland Police detective raised a link between Kisina and Corby's arrest in Bali, but later admitted his claims did not meet the "standard of proof" required to take action against Kisina.[100]

Shite happens: even Abbott knows that... he taught us that infact!  :D

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. Exactly: I was putting up yellow ribbons for her but everyone dismissed my suggestions she was innocent! "I dunno, ......." was all anyone said if you brought it up-->  Perth is very backwards but ya all know that!   ::)

Yes it seems that if drugs are found in your luggage there is no defense -
both here in Australia & Bali.

There was ample evidence that corrupt Sydney baggage handlers were putting drugs
into unsuspecting peoples suitcases  -
still - you'd do a lot of time here too.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:03pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:54pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. Exactly: I was putting up yellow ribbons for her but everyone dismissed my suggestions she was innocent! "I dunno, ......." was all anyone said if you brought it up-->  Perth is very backwards but ya all know that!   ::) Yes it seems that if drugs are found in your luggage there is no defense - both here in Australia & Bali. There was ample evidence that corrupt Sydney baggage handlers were putting drugs into unsuspecting peoples suitcases  - still - you'd do a lot of time here too.

You'd get a proper investigation aswell but  :o ::) ::)

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:27pm:

I'm sure you have.  Doesn't make it true though.

sure it does .

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? Really?  Never been to Nimbin?  You should go. It's an experience   [smiley=happy.gif]

I'll say  ;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:55pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:18pm: Nobody was perpetuating that myth in this thread. no? not how I read it .... especially the highlighted bit Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'.Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. No.  You read it wrong. " ... has no ill effects". Nobody is saying it has NO ill effects. It certainly has some ill effects, however, not those particular ill effects.

semantics

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:40pm: Gnads wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:34pm: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:07pm: never.  why? Really?  Never been to Nimbin?  You should go. It's an experience   [smiley=happy.gif] Yeah with 8 to 10 yr olds trying to flog you drugs in the street ...... & not just pot. Yep. The last time I drove into Nimbin I was approached by a 10 year old kid on a bike selling pot before I had even got out of my parked car and locked the door. gessus....  :o

Similar thing happened to me ... although I had made it out of the car and they were selling hash cookies.

I was sitting having a coffee once when what seemed like the whole population started running across the road .. wife and I weren't sure what was going on .... then about a minute later police roll into town ... I tell you what, their bush telegraph out there is certainly on the ball.

If you've never been you really should try it once, it certainly an experience.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life.

rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

ian wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

incorrect, there is a huge demand for top quality hydropnic marijuana in Bali, it has been shown that the street price is higher than Australia. The locallly grown stuff is a very inferior quality.

Like I said, too much conflicting information, hence see below:

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/lolsnet/recorby.jpg

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

Rubbish - she is innocent.

Don't use strawman fallacies on this forum.

Sophia wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:01pm:

Just some light reading about the baggage handlers  ;) http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Baggage-handlers-paid-300000-in-drug-plot/2005/05/11/1115585014740.html Ian Robert Chalmers mentioned in that article, in cahoots with the baggage handlers, was a Director of Macquarie Bank. Who owns Sydney Airport? Answer = Macquarie Bank perhaps  :o

bump ~ and more light reading below, for your perusal:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Too-much-baggage/2005/05/13/1115843374370.html

http://www.expendable.tv/2011/10/exhibit-gift-from-state.html

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/AFP-ivolved-in-drug-smuggling-exdetective/2005/05/08/1115491036872.html

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/lolsnet/recorby2.jpg

Sophia wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:34pm:

ian wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:26pm: incorrect, there is a huge demand for top quality hydropnic marijuana in Bali, it has been shown that the street price is higher than Australia. The locallly grown stuff is a very inferior quality. Like I said, too much conflicting information, hence see below: http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/lolsnet/recorby.jpg

You mean one type of grass is better by ten times than another?   *falls on floor...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:43am:

Sophia wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 10:34pm: ian wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:26pm: incorrect, there is a huge demand for top quality hydropnic marijuana in Bali, it has been shown that the street price is higher than Australia. The locallly grown stuff is a very inferior quality. Like I said, too much conflicting information, hence see below: http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/lolsnet/recorby.jpg You mean one type of grass is better by ten times than another?   *falls on floor...

Oh most definitely, and any Aussie would gladly lose money as to the value of it, to smuggle it for a hellova lot less, just for the benefit of those Indonesians, because they love us so much  :P

Sophia wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:47pm:

Sophia wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:01pm: Just some light reading about the baggage handlers  ;) http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Baggage-handlers-paid-300000-in-drug-plot/2005/05/11/1115585014740.html Ian Robert Chalmers mentioned in that article, in cahoots with the baggage handlers, was a Director of Macquarie Bank. Who owns Sydney Airport? Answer = Macquarie Bank perhaps  :o bump ~ and more light reading below, for your perusal: http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Too-much-baggage/2005/05/13/1115843374370.html http://www.expendable.tv/2011/10/exhibit-gift-from-state.html http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/AFP-ivolved-in-drug-smuggling-exdetective/2005/05/08/1115491036872.html http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/lolsnet/recorby2.jpg

Lols - you've been reading my books!  For some unknown reason - a man who has spent a lifetime working hard and who has secured your airports etc, and has actively participated in the apprehension of criminals, for you in times of international crisis and has certain shadowy connections with the AFP and ASIO and the SAS - suddenly goes to live in a country town while he is broke and on a walking stick for three years following his second incursion into Fiji during the 'coups' - and decides, one quiet cold night - end to  up in hospital injured after 'attacking' a poor innocent police officer who shows no injuries, but who already has a history of nervous breakdown and trouble in the 'big smoke' and who is supported by his 'mates'..........

Yeah - I'll believe that .. the Easter Bunny is on his way, too... Brer Rabbit is right behind and here come Santa Claus...

You're looking at him.... that is ONE of the deep problems with our country right now and for a long time past...wait for the second and third installments.... and listen to the sound of history breathing as his books become published....

Either the good people win... or the bad guys do..... today - choose your face....

Sophia wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:47am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 12:43am: Sophia wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 10:34pm: ian wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:26pm: incorrect, there is a huge demand for top quality hydropnic marijuana in Bali, it has been shown that the street price is higher than Australia. The locallly grown stuff is a very inferior quality. Like I said, too much conflicting information, hence see below: http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/lolsnet/recorby.jpg You mean one type of grass is better by ten times than another?   *falls on floor... Oh most definitely, and any Aussie would gladly lose money as to the value of it, to smuggle it for a hellova lot less, just for the benefit of those Indonesians, because they love us so much  :P

;D  I can see that - instead of selling top grade hootch for $50 a shot - try 10 baht a shot.. yeah - done every day!@!@! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You cut right to the heart and truth of the matter right there....

Brilliant work.  I a proud of you - but off to bed - working tomorrow night.... need the money.

Indonesia doesn't use baht. That's Thailand. All the same to you though eh Grappler? Bloody nig nogs, all of them.

Sophia wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:47pm:

Sophia wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:01pm: Just some light reading about the baggage handlers  ;) http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Baggage-handlers-paid-300000-in-drug-plot/2005/05/11/1115585014740.html Ian Robert Chalmers mentioned in that article, in cahoots with the baggage handlers, was a Director of Macquarie Bank. Who owns Sydney Airport? Answer = Macquarie Bank perhaps  :o bump ~ and more light reading below, for your perusal: http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Too-much-baggage/2005/05/13/1115843374370.html http://www.expendable.tv/2011/10/exhibit-gift-from-state.html http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/AFP-ivolved-in-drug-smuggling-exdetective/2005/05/08/1115491036872.html http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/lolsnet/recorby2.jpg

Total unfactual nonsense made for children. All has been thoroughly discredited.

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:13pm:

ian wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:57pm: True Blue... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:11pm: http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1368069.htm and since 2005 drug smuggling baggage handlers at Sydney Airport continue to be sacked... how they can be sacked and all swept under the carpet is a crime...  >:( I recall that they sacked another 5 of them in 2013... but oh no... according to IAN... doesn't happen... struth ian... do you ever get sick of being wrong  ::) Lol, own goal. Read your link and then directly quote me the bit where it states baggage handlers were planting drugs in passengers suitcases. the baggage handler theory was totally fabricated by Corbys' first lawyer, a fact he admitted publically to. Try again. Are you saying that baggage handlers haven't been dismissed for smuggling drugs??

question too hard?

ian wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 2:32am:

Indonesia doesn't use baht. That's Thailand. All the same to you though eh Grappler? Bloody nig nogs, all of them.

Whatever - and I don't call anyone 'nig nogs' - never did.  Just have no real interest in Indonesia as a visiting place.

Chief Ten Beers confuse wampum when night is late and moon as high as chief!

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 10:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ... Rubbish - she is innocent. Don't use strawman fallacies on this forum.

why? you use fallicies all the time. Not sure if you are heard or not, but she was guilty in a court of law ... anything else you claim is just pure fantasy

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler.
At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent.

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 10:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ... Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler. At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent.

The sympathy is there because of the type of drug.

Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction.

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:38pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:55pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 12:18pm: Nobody was perpetuating that myth in this thread. no? not how I read it .... especially the highlighted bit Kat wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 11:01am: Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'.Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs. No.  You read it wrong. " ... has no ill effects". Nobody is saying it has NO ill effects. It certainly has some ill effects, however, not those particular ill effects. semantics

No, not "semantics" at all.

You read it completely wrong.

NOBODY is saying that it has NO ill effects. 

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:09am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 10:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ... Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler. At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent. The sympathy is there because of the type of drug. Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction.

Perhaps you should look at it like a speeding fine

You have always said that if you don't speed you won't get fined.

In this case if you don't smuggle drugs you wont get imprisioned

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:15am: The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:09am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 10:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ... Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler. At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent. The sympathy is there because of the type of drug. Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction. Perhaps you should look at it like a speeding fine You have always said that if you don't speed you won't get fined. In this case if you don't smuggle drugs you wont get imprisioned

That's correct.

If she was stupid enough to smuggle drugs, that's her problem.

However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy.

I think you will find that a lot of people think she is innocent. Just look at this thread and the number of people blaming the baggage handlers.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:23am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:15am: The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:09am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 10:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ... Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler. At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent. The sympathy is there because of the type of drug. Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction. Perhaps you should look at it like a speeding fine You have always said that if you don't speed you won't get fined. In this case if you don't smuggle drugs you wont get imprisioned That's correct. If she was stupid enough to smuggle drugs, that's her problem. However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy.

I agree with that.......but clearly the Indonesian court did not.....

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:23am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:15am: The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:09am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 10:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ... Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler. At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent. The sympathy is there because of the type of drug. Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction. Perhaps you should look at it like a speeding fine You have always said that if you don't speed you won't get fined. In this case if you don't smuggle drugs you wont get imprisioned That's correct. If she was stupid enough to smuggle drugs, that's her problem. However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy.

and yet they deserve to lose 3 points and over $100 in fines because they exceed the speed limit by 1km? at least one you can claim is accidental .. the other is deliberate

I'll leave you to work out which is which

Alinta wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:29am: The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:23am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:15am: The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:09am: John Smith wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 10:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong. They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation for ruining her life. rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ... Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler. At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent. The sympathy is there because of the type of drug. Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction. Perhaps you should look at it like a speeding fine You have always said that if you don't speed you won't get fined. In this case if you don't smuggle drugs you wont get imprisioned That's correct. If she was stupid enough to smuggle drugs, that's her problem. However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy. I agree with that.......but clearly the Indonesian court did not.....

if you don't like their punishments, don't break their laws.

Australia could learn a thing or two from Indoensia ..

where's Bobby when you want him  .. 'Hang em high'

John Smith wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:06pm:

and yet they deserve to lose 3 points and over $100 in fines because they exceed the speed limit by 1km?

Nope, not at all.

I've certainly never supported people being fined over $100 and losing 3 points for exceeding the speed limit by 1km.

Where is this happening?

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:29am: However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy. I think you will find that a lot of people think she is innocent. Just look at this thread and the number of people blaming the baggage handlers.

Yes, I think she's innocent too.

However, if she walked up to me tomorrow and confessed to the crime, my reaction would still be exactly the same: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction.

I don't care if it's 4 kilos or 4 tonne.

The "law" is an ass, in Indonesia.

True Blue... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 6:08am:

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 9:13pm: ian wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 8:57pm: True Blue... wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 7:11pm: http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1368069.htm and since 2005 drug smuggling baggage handlers at Sydney Airport continue to be sacked... how they can be sacked and all swept under the carpet is a crime...  >:( I recall that they sacked another 5 of them in 2013... but oh no... according to IAN... doesn't happen... struth ian... do you ever get sick of being wrong  ::) Lol, own goal. Read your link and then directly quote me the bit where it states baggage handlers were planting drugs in passengers suitcases. the baggage handler theory was totally fabricated by Corbys' first lawyer, a fact he admitted publically to. Try again. Are you saying that baggage handlers haven't been dismissed for smuggling drugs?? question too hard?

no, just irrelevant. The baggage handling theory was fabricated, comprehension problems?

"if you don't like their punishments, don't break their laws."

I also agree with that......hence my lack of any real
sympathy........hope Indonesia grants her parole though- 

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

[ The "law" is an ass, in Indonesia.

Really? If you murder someone in Indonesia you get life, real life not 7 years. I guess you support lenient sentences for criminal.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:41am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:29am: However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy. I think you will find that a lot of people think she is innocent. Just look at this thread and the number of people blaming the baggage handlers. Yes, I think she's innocent too. However, if she walked up to me tomorrow and confessed to the crime, my reaction would still be exactly the same: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction. I don't care if it's 4 kilos or 4 tonne. The "law" is an ass, in Indonesia.

Is that what it was for? Because using cannabis (or having some on you) and getting caught is different to be convicted of smuggling drugs.

I admit that I never really paid much attention to this case apart from knowing it happened and some of the rumours that surrounded it. But 20 years for drug smuggling doesn't sound to out there. 

ian wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 12:14pm: [ The "law" is an ass, in Indonesia. Really? If you murder someone in Indonesia you get life, real life not 7 years. I guess you support lenient sentences for criminal.

I'm talking about the law relating to cannabis.

I said the law is an ass, not the laws.

I don't support lenient sentences for murderers, so your guess was wrong.

I do, however, support lenient sentences for people caught with cannabis.

Quantum wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 12:14pm: The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:41am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:29am: However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy. I think you will find that a lot of people think she is innocent. Just look at this thread and the number of people blaming the baggage handlers. Yes, I think she's innocent too. However, if she walked up to me tomorrow and confessed to the crime, my reaction would still be exactly the same: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction. I don't care if it's 4 kilos or 4 tonne. The "law" is an ass, in Indonesia. Is that what it was for?

Yes, that's exactly what it was for: cannabis .

She was convicted of smuggling cannabis.

And I don't care if she smuggled 4 kilos or 4 tonne: nobody deserves 20 years for smuggling cannabis.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:41am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:29am: However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy. I think you will find that a lot of people think she is innocent. Just look at this thread and the number of people blaming the baggage handlers. Yes, I think she's innocent too. However, if she walked up to me tomorrow and confessed to the crime, my reaction would still be exactly the same: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction. I don't care if it's 4 kilos or 4 tonne. The "law" is an ass, in Indonesia.

seriously? smuggling 4 tonnes deserves the death penalty.