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Message started by Armchair_Politician on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:35am

Title: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:35am
Labor was yesterday forced to rally around leader Bill Shorten over the former union boss's refusal to back a royal commission into the union movement or the resurrection of the building industry watchdog, the Australian Building and Construction Commission (ABCC). 
 
Momentum continued to gather yesterday as the Abbott government talked up the seriousness of the "horrendous" allegations of kickbacks, bribery and death threats involving the CFMEU that emerged last week.

Opposition frontbencher Penny Wong yesterday said some people involved in the scandal were "rotten apples" but insisted they needed to be investigated by police and the ABCC was not set up to investigate criminality. Is that why the Unions have a history of calling in Police to investigate corruption?  ;D

She denied suggestions Mr Shorten, a former boss of the Australian Workers' Union, had been wedged between his support for the CFMEU and its policies, such as opposing the ABCC on the leadership campaign trail, and the robust policy voters wanted. Yeah, right!  ;D

"I am absolutely sure nothing what Bill Shorten said and anything what the federal parliament party is saying would condone this sort of criminal activity," she said. "If you support the Labor movement, the last thing you want to see is this sort of behaviour." Shortens' actions - and those of the ALP in general - would definitely indicate otherwise!!!

She added that she wanted to see the terms of reference before outlining her position.

Employment Minister Eric Abetz said the government was treating the claims very seriously as it considered the scope of its judicial inquiry into union slush funds.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/federal-opposition-leader-bill-shorten-wont-back-an-inquiry-into-the-union-movement/story-fni0xqrc-1226816224740

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:37am
Looks like you're stuck between a rock and a bunch of corrupt unions, Mr Shorten!

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by cods on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:37am
are you surprised the scum

wouldnt back this..LOL>. dont forget he didnt back even the union in having a ROYAL back in the 90s into the AWU..

why???.. because his name is everywhere,.,,,his dirty fingers are over everything..


he I think has more to hide than any of them...and look at that pictured of him..cringggggggeworthy....yuck.

he looks like the toad under the bridge.



Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by mantra on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:44am
I haven't liked any of the leaders from either of the major parties since the Fraser government. Labor does need someone better than Shorten to lead them unless he's brighter than he looks. Hopefully he might show more appeal when he gets the hang of his job.

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Maqqa on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:51am
Shame Shorten Shame

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by viewpoint on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:53am
Not surprising, he's a former corrupt unionist himself.

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by woody2013 on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:56am

viewpoint wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:53am:
Not surprising, he's a former corrupt unionist himself.


Don't you mean STILL   >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by cods on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:09am

woody2014 wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:56am:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:53am:
Not surprising, he's a former corrupt unionist himself.


Don't you mean STILL   >:( >:( >:(



I think he might do...LOL

would you trust him with your wife or girlfriend..hahahaha

erk I have no idea what any women sees in him to be honest..maybe hes got something other than a bald heard.. ::) ::)

even the union wants an investigation into themselves..


he CFMEU's national executive has also launched an internal investigation into the influence of Sydney crime figure George Alex in the union's NSW arm after a whistleblower questioned his relationship with senior union officials.

at that two faced mongrel says he wont back a ROYAL.. i


WHY WILLY WHY?... WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF...???

seems like they all have something to hide...

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by laborarecorrupt on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.


Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by cods on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:47am

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.



wow.... they work under their own names and not their husbands now.. its almost as if they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...

of course shorty will back her.. he probably owes her hubby a favor or three ::) ::)

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by laborarecorrupt on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:53am

cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:47am:

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.



wow.... they work under their own names and not their husbands now.. its almost as if they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...

of course shorty will back her.. he probably owes her hubby a favor or three ::) ::)




Australian Workers Union’s Troy Spence

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by the wise one on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:54am

viewpoint wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:53am:
Not surprising, he's a former corrupt unionist himself.


Have you got a link to that statement of yours. If not STFU and don't put bullshyte on here







Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by life_goes_on on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 10:15am

cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:47am:

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.



wow.... they work under their own names and not their husbands now.. its almost as if they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...

of course shorty will back her.. he probably owes her hubby a favor or three ::) ::)


It's the Labor party, you simpletons.
Labor party. Think about it... L a b o r

It's not the Management Party
or The Business Party.

But the Labor Party.... it has always had close ties with the labour movement and the unions - Hence the name - Labor Party.

Okay, you idiots are probably confused by the fact that the party you cheer for is called the Liberal Party.... and it's a conservative party, not a liberal one.


Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by salad in on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 2:54pm
Mr Shorten has taken a few days off because he needs to change his soiled underwear. What's that brown stuff running down Shorten's leg? I named him Sh!ttin' when he was handed the job and I was on the money.

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Kat on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 3:09pm

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:53am:

cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:47am:

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.



wow.... they work under their own names and not their husbands now.. its almost as if they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...

of course shorty will back her.. he probably owes her hubby a favor or three ::) ::)




Australian Workers Union’s Troy Spence


The ONLY union I've ever had an issue with.

Lots of petty strikes to attend cricket matches etc, but when a major safety
issue came up, the members wanted to strike but the leaders said 'No'.

Why?

'Too close to Christmas' and they didn't want to risk their bonuses.

GRRRRRR!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by John Smith on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 3:46pm
So the rightards are upset Shorten won't sign up to another witch hunt ....   ;D ;D ;D


Great job Shorten! If the rightards are getting upset, you know you're doing something right.


Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 3:57pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 10:15am:

cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:47am:

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.



wow.... they work under their own names and not their husbands now.. its almost as if they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...

of course shorty will back her.. he probably owes her hubby a favor or three ::) ::)


It's the Labor party, you simpletons.
Labor party. Think about it... L a b o r

It's not the Management Party
or The Business Party.

But the Labor Party.... it has always had close ties with the labour movement and the unions - Hence the name - Labor Party.

Okay, you idiots are probably confused by the fact that the party you cheer for is called the Liberal Party.... and it's a conservative party, not a liberal one.


Actually, the Labor Party was actually born out of alliances with the Socialist/Communist party that used to exist here. Their alliance with unions came later.

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by John Smith on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:00pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 3:57pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 10:15am:

cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:47am:

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.



wow.... they work under their own names and not their husbands now.. its almost as if they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...

of course shorty will back her.. he probably owes her hubby a favor or three ::) ::)


It's the Labor party, you simpletons.
Labor party. Think about it... L a b o r

It's not the Management Party
or The Business Party.

But the Labor Party.... it has always had close ties with the labour movement and the unions - Hence the name - Labor Party.

Okay, you idiots are probably confused by the fact that the party you cheer for is called the Liberal Party.... and it's a conservative party, not a liberal one.


Actually, the Labor Party was actually born out of alliances with the Socialist/Communist party that used to exist here. Their alliance with unions came later.


the labor party was formed by the workers unions you moron.

You've got communist parties on the brain, not surprising since Abbott seems intent on sharing so many of their agendas

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Dnarever on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:14pm
Shorten backs Union corruption

No surprise here, I thought it was going to be BS and wasn't disappointed.

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by red baron on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:24pm
Bill Shorten is like a recalcitrant schoolboy who has suddenly been given the vice captain's cap.

He doesn't know what to do or say and what he does say has the substance of glad wrap.

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by froggie on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:28pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 3:57pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 10:15am:

cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:47am:

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.



wow.... they work under their own names and not their husbands now.. its almost as if they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...

of course shorty will back her.. he probably owes her hubby a favor or three ::) ::)


It's the Labor party, you simpletons.
Labor party. Think about it... L a b o r

It's not the Management Party
or The Business Party.

But the Labor Party.... it has always had close ties with the labour movement and the unions - Hence the name - Labor Party.

Okay, you idiots are probably confused by the fact that the party you cheer for is called the Liberal Party.... and it's a conservative party, not a liberal one.


Actually, the Labor Party was actually born out of alliances with the Socialist/Communist party that used to exist here. Their alliance with unions came later.



History lesson time............

The Tree of Knowledge was a tree in Barcaldine, Queensland, Australia, which was regarded as the birthplace of the Australian Labor Party (ALP). This was because the town was the headquarters of the 1891 Australian shearers' strike where policy and decisions were made.[1] It was a 200-year-old Corymbia aparrerinja ghost gum.[2]

It is said that in 1891 a group of protesting sheep shearers founded the Australian Labor Party under the tree. Meeting records of shearers striking for better conditions show they were held at the main strike camp at the edge of the town on Lagoon Creek.[1] Non-union labour would arrive in the town by rail where they were met by the striking shearers. These impromptu meetings arose at a Cabbage Gum tree near the station where the strikers attempted to rally union members to their cause and block non-unionists.[1] In 1892, at the foot of the tree, the Manifesto of the Queensland Labour Party, a foundation document of the Australian Labor Party, was read out.[10]

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Tree_of_Knowledge_(Australia)?o=2802&qsrc=999&ad=doubleDown&an=apn&ap=ask.com

You're welcome......
;)

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Aussie on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:30pm

red baron wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:24pm:
Bill Shorten is like a recalcitrant schoolboy who has suddenly been given the vice captain's cap.

He doesn't know what to do or say and what he does say has the substance of glad wrap.


Pretty akin to your comments about that journalist arrested and charged in Egypt being an ABC employee at the time.  And akin to your comment that he had been filmed wearing ABC 'colours.'

You clean that up for me Mr Baron, and I'll be a happy chappy.

:)

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by red baron on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:33pm
Colours what colours Aussie?...I don't see any stinkin' colours :P

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Dnarever on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:34pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 3:57pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 10:15am:

cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:47am:

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.



wow.... they work under their own names and not their husbands now.. its almost as if they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...

of course shorty will back her.. he probably owes her hubby a favor or three ::) ::)


It's the Labor party, you simpletons.
Labor party. Think about it... L a b o r

It's not the Management Party
or The Business Party.

But the Labor Party.... it has always had close ties with the labour movement and the unions - Hence the name - Labor Party.

Okay, you idiots are probably confused by the fact that the party you cheer for is called the Liberal Party.... and it's a conservative party, not a liberal one.


Actually, the Labor Party was actually born out of alliances with the Socialist/Communist party that used to exist here. Their alliance with unions came later.



You need to be careful when the Liberals were set up with a pre meditated split from the UAP after a deal was done in the gutter of a lane behind the party meeting hall.

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Aussie on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:39pm

red baron wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:33pm:
Colours what colours Aussie?...I don't see any stinkin' colours :P


Now, now.  Would you like the link?

8-)

Here you go.

Click here!

:)

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by red baron on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 5:05pm
I swear Aussie you must have been watching re runs of Mod Squad too much...There's a Link that show. :D

Now I know what you want me to say Aussie but I'm not going to say it ?

Just to cheese you off and for no other reason ha! ha! ha!

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Aussie on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 5:29pm

red baron wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 5:05pm:
I swear Aussie you must have been watching re runs of Mod Squad too much...There's a Link that show. :D

Now I know what you want me to say Aussie but I'm not going to say it ?

Just to cheese you off and for no other reason ha! ha! ha!


Okay.

:(

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Kat on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:25pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 4:00pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 3:57pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 10:15am:

cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:47am:

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.



wow.... they work under their own names and not their husbands now.. its almost as if they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...

of course shorty will back her.. he probably owes her hubby a favor or three ::) ::)


It's the Labor party, you simpletons.
Labor party. Think about it... L a b o r

It's not the Management Party
or The Business Party.

But the Labor Party.... it has always had close ties with the labour movement and the unions - Hence the name - Labor Party.

Okay, you idiots are probably confused by the fact that the party you cheer for is called the Liberal Party.... and it's a conservative party, not a liberal one.


Actually, the Labor Party was actually born out of alliances with the Socialist/Communist party that used to exist here. Their alliance with unions came later.


the labor party was formed by the workers unions you moron.

You've got communist parties on the brain, not surprising since Abbott seems intent on sharing so many of their agendas



What brain?

And I doubt he'd recognise a communist if it was biting him on the ass.

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by froggie on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:39pm

cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:47am:

labor are corrupt wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Bill backs terri butler for rudds old seat.

She is a maurice blackburn lawer for the CFMEU.

Her husband is a big wig On the board of the AWU ( Shortens union ) and he is on the board of a union super fund.



wow.... they work under their own names and not their husbands now.. its almost as if they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes...

of course shorty will back her.. he probably owes her hubby a favor or three ::) ::)



What wool is Peta Credlin trying to pull over our eyes, cods?
After all, she is working under HER own name, and NOT her husbands......
---------------------
Peta Credlin was born to Len and Brenda Credlin in the small Victorian country town of Wycheproof.


After working for several years on Patterson's staff, Credlin moved to become an advisor to Senator Richard Alston, the Minister for Communications in the Howard Government.

She then left politics, and worked for three years as public relations manager for Racing Victoria. Tired of the commute between Melbourne and Canberra, where her husband Brian Loughnane was based, Credlin returned to her career as a political staffer, working for Senators Robert Hill and Helen Coonan.

Brian Loughnane (born circa 1958), an Australian political campaign advisor, has been the Federal Director of the Liberal Party of Australia since February 2003.

Loughnane is married to Peta Credlin, the Chief of Staff for Tony Abbott, the current Prime Minister of Australia. They married in December 2002 after the 2001 federal election where they worked together in the Victorian office of the Liberal Party in a move engineered by Senator Kay Patterson.

:)

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Dnarever on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:42pm
Shorten backs Union corruption

The title should be "Liberals push for more deaths on work sites".

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:45pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:42pm:
Shorten backs Union corruption

The title should be "Liberals push for more deaths on work sites".


Under former PM Howard's industry watchdog, strikes were down, productivity way up, employment in this industry was up and deaths actually dropped. All bad news for unions and Labor.

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by philperth2010 on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:01pm
I have no problem with a Royal Commission into unions that also addresses links to businesses and the ALP that are corrupt.....No Australian should accept the behaviour we have seen exposed and the corruption that lies beyond the reach of authorities we do not know about.....It is time to deal with those corrupt bastards across the board!!!

>:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Dnarever on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:03pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:42pm:
Shorten backs Union corruption

The title should be "Liberals push for more deaths on work sites".


Under former PM Howard's industry watchdog, strikes were down, productivity way up, employment in this industry was up and deaths actually dropped. All bad news for unions and Labor.



Quote:
The number of deaths has gone up:
from 3.14 per 100,000 workers in 2004 – before the ABCC started –
to 4.8 per 100,000 workers in 2007 and 4.27 in 2008.

The construction laws and ABCC have taken us back to the terrible situation of, on average, one construction being killed on the job every week.

Limits on right of entry for union organizers have made safety worse.


and deaths actually dropped

Of course you can just make it all up but when consistently caught out there is little credibility left to draw on.

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by red baron on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:10pm
Say, harking back to your childhood days remember the kid who's always shoving his hand up....choose me! choose me! Usually some little squirt with an inflated sense of his own importance..Now...talking about Bill Shorten. ;)

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Dnarever on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:24pm

red baron wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:10pm:
Say, harking back to your childhood days remember the kid who's always shoving his hand up....choose me! choose me! Usually some little squirt with an inflated sense of his own importance..Now...talking about Bill Shorten.



I thought you were going to say Tony Abbott

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by Kat on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:39pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 6:42pm:
Shorten backs Union corruption

The title should be "Liberals push for more deaths on work sites".


Under former PM Howard's industry watchdog, strikes were down, productivity way up, employment in this industry was up and deaths actually dropped. All bad news for unions and Labor.



You're doing it again....

Title: Re: Shorten backs Union corruption
Post by froggie on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 8:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:24pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 7:10pm:
Say, harking back to your childhood days remember the kid who's always shoving his hand up....choose me! choose me! Usually some little squirt with an inflated sense of his own importance..Now...talking about Bill Shorten.



I thought you were going to say Tony Abbott


I thought he was going to say 'That's me!!!'

;)

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