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Title: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:43am
The building industry has been hit by controversy following reports that union officials are making corrupt deals to help companies linked to organised crime secure construction contracts.
Victoria's desalination plant and the Barangaroo development in Sydney are among a number of projects that companies connected to major crime figures are involved in, according to media reports. The ABC said a joint investigation with Fairfax Media implicated a number of Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU) members in New South Wales and Victoria in corrupt deals, including bribery and extortion. It reported that Victorian CFMEU official, Danny Berardi, resigned immediately after the media companies supplied evidence that he had two companies help renovate his properties in exchange for getting them work on Melbourne construction sites. CFMEU national secretary Dave Noonan said he was "concerned about any criminal activity in the industry", but that the union was not the regulator. "These are issues for ASIC and the police force and we have consistently called on them to do their job," Mr Noonan said. Australian Building Construction Commission chief Nigel Hadgkiss told the ABC he was aware of evidence about "the payment of bribes to senior union officials" in Victoria, but said police not previously acted on evidence of corruption in the industry. He said the lack of action made way for criminals and corrupt officials, and that was "very frustrating". http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/union-hit-by-corrupt-deal-reports/story-fni0xqi3-1226811644107 |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:16am
Daily Terror :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:25am
Wonder why they never expose the non union corruption and links to crime in the building industry where it really is rife.
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:29am Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:25am:
Could it be because the unions effectively run the building industry? Shock, horror!!! :o |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:53am
Could it be that Armpit is desperately looking for a way to deflect?
Unions are not the main building contractors. Safety on construction sites is abysmal. |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:28am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:29am:
BS. [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by laborarecorrupt on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:39am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:43am:
CFMEU runs labor in victoria. A vote for labor is a vote for the CFMEU. Looks like newman has got it right in queensland. No wonder the ETU and MUA are funding the bikies defence. Abbott needs to call the RC soon. |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by laborarecorrupt on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:43am
CFMEU haven't been to the police because they found no instances of corruption.
hahahahahahhahahhaaha :D |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by miketrees on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:48am
I was a member of the CFMEU, I has a health and safety issue onsite and they never helped at all, perhaps now I know why.
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by laborarecorrupt on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:56am
No wonder Gillard Labor got rid of the building watchdog.
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by woody2013 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:38am St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:16am:
Crime figures Bilal Fatrouni and George Alex Union accused of ties to crime figures, kickbacks for jobs By national reporting team's Dan Oakes Union officials have formed corrupt relationships with organised crime figures, receiving kickbacks in exchange for arranging lucrative contracts in the construction industry. A joint investigation by ABC's 7.30 program and Fairfax Media has discovered that bribery, extortion and threats of violence are used to cement the influence of crime figures on Australia's construction sites. Companies connected to major crime figures have won contracts on private and government projects, including Victoria's desalination plant and the Barangaroo development in Sydney. Evidence including covertly recorded conversations, bank records, police intelligence files and whistleblower accounts implicate a number of senior CFMEU members in corruption. The CFMEU national executive has also launched an internal investigation into the influence of Sydney crime figure George Alex (pictured, right) in the union's NSW arm. More ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D YOUR ABC AND FAIR FAX REPORT ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:41am
So now the ABC is a sterling organisation?
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by FriYAY on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:45am St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:41am:
LOL It’s being reported everywhere. And now you look stooopid…..hahahahahahaha :D :D |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by woody2013 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:45am St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:41am:
Crime figures Bilal Fatrouni and George Alex Union accused of ties to crime figures, kickbacks for jobs By national reporting team's Dan Oakes Union officials have formed corrupt relationships with organised crime figures, receiving kickbacks in exchange for arranging lucrative contracts in the construction industry. A joint investigation by ABC's 7.30 program and Fairfax Media has discovered that bribery, extortion and threats of violence are used to cement the influence of crime figures on Australia's construction sites. Companies connected to major crime figures have won contracts on private and government projects, including Victoria's desalination plant and the Barangaroo development in Sydney. Evidence including covertly recorded conversations, bank records, police intelligence files and whistleblower accounts implicate a number of senior CFMEU members in corruption. The CFMEU national executive has also launched an internal investigation into the influence of Sydney crime figure George Alex (pictured, right) in the union's NSW arm. More ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by woody2013 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:46am FriYAY wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:45am:
Crime figures Bilal Fatrouni and George Alex Union accused of ties to crime figures, kickbacks for jobs By national reporting team's Dan Oakes Union officials have formed corrupt relationships with organised crime figures, receiving kickbacks in exchange for arranging lucrative contracts in the construction industry. A joint investigation by ABC's 7.30 program and Fairfax Media has discovered that bribery, extortion and threats of violence are used to cement the influence of crime figures on Australia's construction sites. Companies connected to major crime figures have won contracts on private and government projects, including Victoria's desalination plant and the Barangaroo development in Sydney. Evidence including covertly recorded conversations, bank records, police intelligence files and whistleblower accounts implicate a number of senior CFMEU members in corruption. The CFMEU national executive has also launched an internal investigation into the influence of Sydney crime figure George Alex (pictured, right) in the union's NSW arm. More ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by laborarecorrupt on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:47am
AWU scandal
HSU scandal CFMEU scandal Bikies/Organised Crime Building union took bribes Royal C Tony |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by woody2013 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:44am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:43am:
bump |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by laborarecorrupt on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:06pm
I wonder what bill shorten thinks of this corruption?
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by bogarde73 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:13pm
Funny that. He's just left for an overseas trip.
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by laborarecorrupt on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:52pm bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:13pm:
Off overseas on a taxpayer junket with his token wife. Little bill wont last long. Just imagine how much better off this Country would be without Corrupt Labor & Unions hindering industry & construction. |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by Cliff48 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:02pm
Gotta love the way AP slams the ABC for bias, then uses a report by them to slam the abc/unions. Hypocrite?
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Title: Abbott: full inquiry into unions needed Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:11pm
The Abbott government will launch a royal commission into union corruption which goes further than the coalition flagged before the federal election.
The coalition went to the 2013 election promising to restore the building and construction industry watchdog and hold a judicial inquiry specifically into fraud allegations against the Australian Workers Union. But Prime Minister Tony Abbott on Tuesday said recent reports of other alleged corruption in the trade union movement meant that a 'full inquiry' was required. A joint ABC-Fairfax Media investigation claims union officials are making corrupt deals to help companies linked to organised crime secure construction contracts. Victoria's desalination plant and the Barangaroo development in Sydney are among a number of projects in which companies connected to major crime figures reportedly are involved. Mr Abbott said he had been following the issue during the past few weeks and months, noting there had been calls including from those inside the union movement for a full inquiry. He said a royal commission was a form of judicial inquiry. The prime minister said the new reports of bribery and kickbacks also demonstrated the need for the re-establishment of the Australian Building and Construction Commission. 'Once you've got a strong cop on the beat, the whole culture of an industry improves,' he told reporters in Canberra. The former Labor government dumped the ABCC in favour of a Fair Work inspectorate and together with the Australian Greens is blocking legislation for its re-establishment. Master Builders Australia also wants the ABCC brought back, although it noted the commission didn't have powers to directly act against criminal behaviour. Labor says police are best placed to deal with corruption or crime. 'If there's anything of a criminal dimension in this sector then that should be investigated by the police, not by public servants or by new bodies,' opposition workplace spokesman Brendan O'Connor said. Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU) national secretary Dave Noonan said his union would act immediately if it was made aware of any improper, illegal, corrupt or criminal activity by officials. The union had terminated the employment of officials who had engaged in such activity in the past, he said. 'We would not hesitate to do so in the future, if warranted.' The Victorian CFMEU last week sacked an organiser on the grounds of misconduct, branch secretary John Setka confirmed on Tuesday. The government may also examine rules relating to union donations to political parties as part of a review of the 2013 federal election, which is the subject of a parliamentary committee inquiry. Mr Abbott said any decision on electoral reform would wait until after the committee reported. http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=945603&cid=BP_RSS_TOPSTORIES_1_Governmentflagsbroaderunioninquiry_280114 |
Title: Re: Abbott: full inquiry into unions needed Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:12pm
ABOUT TIME!!! :)
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Title: Re: Abbott: full inquiry into unions needed Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:15pm
The five existing Threads not good enough?
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Title: Re: Abbott: full inquiry into unions needed Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:22pm
Yeah, how unusual for Libs to bash unions ::)
Nothing to do with ACTU starting to take it up to the shambles, nothing to do with the simian needing to distract from all his gaffes ::) Quote:
http://pbxmastragics.com/2014/01/25/an-australia-day-confession/comment-page-3/#comment-116116 |
Title: Re: Abbott: full inquiry into unions needed Post by Stratos on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:25pm
Is there a particular reason we need a royal commission instead of a police investigation?
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Title: Re: Abbott: full inquiry into unions needed Post by woody2013 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:29pm St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:22pm:
Take it up with Fair Fax an your abc WATCH THE SEVEN THIRTY REPORT TONIGHT ;) ;) ;) ;) |
Title: Re: Abbott: full inquiry into unions needed Post by Bam on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:36pm Stratos wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:25pm:
Yeah, it's so they can have a witch hunt and line the pockets of well-connected people in the Liberal party. Looks like a job for someone in the Melbourne Club again... |
Title: Re: Abbott: full inquiry into unions needed Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:45pm Bam wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 5:36pm:
Yeah, guess the simian is not liking the polls overmuch ;D I can give him some advice: 1. Repair relations with Indonesia 2. Stop demonising ASs 3. Run out the FTTh NBN 4. Act to support jobs, crawl from Canberra to Broadmeadows on bended knees to beg Holden to stay Etc |
Title: Re: Abbott: full inquiry into unions needed Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:32pm
Let us have a FULL enquiry:
Quote:
http://pbxmastragics.com/2014/01/25/an-australia-day-confession/comment-page-4/#comment-116126 But easier to bash unions. Give work to some Lib lawyers. |
Title: Re: Abbott: full inquiry into unions needed Post by red baron on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:37pm
Unions have a very important role to play on the Australia landscape. Too often we see headlines of embedded corruption in their ranks, particularly the Building Industry.
Well run, fair minded Unions are great but we are seeing far too many examples of Union thuggery, corruption and criminality. |
Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by perceptions_now on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:07pm
The last 10 Posts were moved here from Politicians Suck by perceptions_now.
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Title: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:56am
LABOR needs to acknowledge there is corruption in the construction sector and get behind moves to resurrect the industry watchdog, Employment Minister Eric Abetz says.
Senator Abetz says the Australian people want the construction industry cleaned up and corruption weeded out. But the Greens and Labor allowed the Australian Building and Corruption Commissioner (ABCC) to be dismantled and were using their numbers in the Senate to oppose government legislation to restore it, he said. "The construction industry has had an unfortunate history of corruption, illegality, thuggery and standover tactics," the minister told AAP. "That was all exposed by the Cole Royal Commission in a very thorough review about a decade ago." A joint ABC and Fairfax Media investigation has found union officials are making corrupt deals to help companies linked to organised crime secure construction contracts. Senator Abetz says the reports show corruption is still ingrained. He said Labor had received $6 million from the Construction Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU) and now needed to explain their objection to restoring the ABCC. "Given the latest revelations by the ABC and the Fairfax media, the ALP simply simply no longer has any feathers to fly with in opposing the re-establishment of the ABCC," he said. "The national interest should come first and that demands the re-establishment of the ABCC." http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/abetz-says-labor-must-back-new-abcc/story-fni0xqi3-1226811761651 |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:57am
Labor has no excuses now. They have to back the ABCC or they're going to be seen as the pro-corruption party, if they aren't already.
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Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by skippy. on Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:10am
Abetz has solid nazi genes.
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Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:32am
One report, no charges laid let alone proved.
What about bastardry and corruption by the construction companies? The lack of safety standards meaning someone dies on a construction site every working day? I would support an ABCC IF it investigated both sides, employer as well as employee, and was a hawk about safety issues. Not a star chamber for employees only, f*ck that. There was that brick wall built by Grollo that collapsed and killed three passers by. Any investigation into that? |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by woody2013 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:41am St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:32am:
Worker fatalities As at 22 January 2014, 7 Australian workers have been killed while at work. With the occurrence of each work-related fatality, Safe Work Australia records information, updates statistics and prepares various reports. The number of worker deaths listed on this page is based on initial media reports and is only a preliminary estimate for the number of people killed. Work-related status cannot be confirmed until the death is investigated by the appropriate authority. Once this has occurred, it is reported in Safe Work Australia’s Monthly Notifiable Fatality reports and Work-related Traumatic Injury Fatalities reports. Year-to-date 2014: worker deaths by industry of workplacea Industry of workplace 2012 2013 2014 Year to date Transport, postal & warehousing 75 51 1 Agriculture, forestry & fishing 51 49 1 Construction 25 19 1 Manufacturing 17 13 0 Administrative & support services 7 1 0 Public administration & safety 6 5 0 Arts & recreation services 6 9 0 Miningb 5 10 2 Electricity, gas, water & waste services 4 6 0 Education & training 3 0 0 Health care & social assistance 2 2 1 Other services 3 4 0 Retail trade 2 7 0 Wholesale trade 2 4 0 Information media & telecommunications 0 1 0 Accommodation & food services 1 2 1 Financial & insurance services 1 1 0 Government administration & defence 1 1 0 Professional, scientific & technical services 1 0 0 Industry unknownc 4 0 0 Total worker deaths 212 185 7 a Ranked in descending order, and then on alphabetical order for industries with no fatalities. b Mining fatalities include fatalities that occur in the coal mining, oil and gas extraction, metal ore mining, gravel and sand quarrying, and services to mining sectors. c Includes notifiable fatalities that occurred overseas. Safe Work Australia also collects and reports on a range of other work health and safety and workers compensation statistics. View the Safe Work Australia statistics page. Quick links and Initiatives Quick links Home Publications & resources Industry statistics Model work health and safety laws Model Codes of Practice WHS Act WHS Regulations Contact Subscribe News Media releases Ministers’ Media Centre Initiatives |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:15am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:56am:
A totally debunked and discredited Inquiry. $70M and although Cole made many adverse findings (more than 300) against individuals, not one was even charged with an offence, let alone tried and convicted. As Alan Jones said at the time, the best use to be made of the Cole tomes is as door stoppers. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by woody2013 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:20am Aussie wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:15am:
Hey Rick Shaw boy whose this ALAN JONES YOUR QUOTING |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by imcrookonit on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:25am
The Greens and Labor allowed the Australian Building and Corruption Commissioner (ABCC) to be dismantled and were using their numbers in the Senate to oppose government legislation to restore it, he said. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:25am
How many do you know, Mr 2013?
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Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by cods on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:18am woody2014 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:20am:
HILARIOUS>.. he tells it as it is when it suits.. ::) ::) unbelievable.. ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by bogarde73 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:46pm
You are dead right AP. If Labor wants to have any claim to being a lawful party, standing for the rule of law, it must support the Abbott govt in re-establishing the Commission so that corruption can be rooted out from the unions.
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Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:48pm bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:46pm:
Are you alleging that Coppers are unable to deal with criminal conduct? |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by bogarde73 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:54pm
Situations arise from time to time - and wide-spread corruption in the building unions is one such - which require special measures.
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Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:57pm
The only thing that the ABCC achieved was to make building sites less safe places to work - they killed people.
Abetz and anyone else stupid enough to support this politically expedient train wreck is a fool. Each and every year the ABCC was in place seen an increase in workplace accidents, a reversal of the trend of the previous 20 years. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Cliff48 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:58pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:56am:
But hold on there AP, You have stated many times that the ABC is biased and not a valid source to be quoted????? so they/you have selective bias? |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by bogarde73 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:01pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:57pm:
I smell Labor/union fear. The days of the bully boy are drawing to a close. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:02pm bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:54pm:
What 'special measures?' Crime is for Coppers to handle. Relevant law already exists to deal with crime of any kind including any committed by a person who is a union member. That is precisely why we have a Police force. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Oh_Yeah on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:00pm Cliff48 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:58pm:
I was thinking the same thing. They assure us that ABC is bias.............and then use it as a source to attack the ALP |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:05pm Aussie wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:02pm:
There has always been more corruption in building companies than in building unions. All the ABCC does is to nullify genuine union protections in favour of the real crooks. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by bogarde73 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:05pm
And now Tony Abbott has added his weight to the argument:
"What today's revelations demonstrate is the absolute pressing need for the reestablishment of the Australian Building and Construction Commission with full power, full authority, full funding," Mr Abbott said. "If the Labor Party is serious about tackling corruption again they will stop standing in the way of the reestablishment of a strong cop on the beat in that particular industry. "The commission should have full authority to ensure that the law is upheld. Full authority to ensure that the law is upheld in an industry which has been long marked by lawlessness." |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Cliff48 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:07pm bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:05pm:
Another that suddenly believes the ABC - hilarious:) |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:09pm
What weight does Abbott have left?
Lost a huge swathe of support that won’t come back. His own Party is ALREADY planning how to replace him. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by bogarde73 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:11pm
In your dreams George.
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Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:13pm bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:11pm:
REACHTELL Libs on 47%. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:13pm bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:05pm:
Tony blind as well.......can't see the Coppers around the place? This is a political attack on Unions, nothing else. I expect to read soon enough that Campbell Newman has declared (as he can) that Unions are 'criminal organisations' bringing Qld's VLAD Laws into direct effect. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Cliff48 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:14pm St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:09pm:
Roflmao - replace with what? some tired old Howard hacks that are still living in the 1950's? Abbott is the best they have :( |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:16pm St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:09pm:
It is likely that the community have already stopped listening to Abbott. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:18pm Cliff48 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:14pm:
Some in the Liberal party moved into the 1960's a few days ago. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by mantra on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:18pm
This government is so bereft of new policies they're just regurgitating Howard's old ones.
They want the unions made impotent again and wages back on freefall. The next government initiative will be the reintroduction of Workchoices under another name. Quote:
There was at least a death a week on a building site under the last Coalition government. There was no regulation because the unions were emasculated. Work place safety became non-existent. Scaffolding wasn't being erected properly and inexperienced workers weren't being supervised. It was a disgrace and in the end Australia was sick of it and that's why Howard lost his seat. How quickly we've forgotten the excesses and slackness of the Coalition in their quest for extreme capitalism. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by bogarde73 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:22pm
You've missed the plot dna. Abbott keeps a background profile because he KNOWS that the people are sick & tired of listening to pollies after 6 years of Rudd/Gillard.
He just pops his head up every now and again to give people news they WANT to hear like: - the boats have stopped - work for the dole - we have to rein in our spending |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:32pm bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:22pm:
The self delusion in that post is just cruel. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by FriYAY on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:40pm mantra wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:18pm:
I would love to see the sources you use to back all these claims up. Thanks :) |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:41pm Cliff48 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:14pm:
Abbott could not possibly be the best option anyone could have. |
Title: Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:44pm
Hockey might be a compromise candidate the Lib caucus could agree on.
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by perceptions_now on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:09pm
The last 34 Posts were moved here from Politicians Suck by perceptions_now.
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Title: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by viewpoint on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:37am
http://www.smh.com.au/national/bikies-crooks-and-barangaroo-20140127-31izo.html
Again we see corrupt construction unions in league with organised criminals (including bikies) gaining lucrative construction contacts in Sydney. Surprised....NO! |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by woody2013 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:40am viewpoint wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:37am:
Your going to get berated for posting this ;) ;) |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by viewpoint on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:48am woody2014 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:40am:
I know, but I won't charge the brain dead plonkers......they have to make excuses up for their socialist/unionist/communist thieving mates.....my sarcasm is free to them.... ;D ;D ;) |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:49am woody2014 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:40am:
Nah, I accept nearly all righties are brain dead and with reading and comprehension problems. |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:50am viewpoint wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:37am:
TWO existing threads not enough for you? |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:55am
Unions are not only rife with corruption - as demonstrated on countless occasions.
They are staffed with 'lifers' who are utterly inept and just out for themselves. I have had the misfortune of dealing with the AMWU in our plants and they are utter pr1cks to a man in my experience. |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by viewpoint on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:03pm Aussie wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:50am:
No need to thank me Ozzie......I'm sure the cab driver's union is as honest as the day is long.....the lawyers ....well that's a different matter.....we know most of them are bent! [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by woody2013 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:11pm viewpoint wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:03pm:
That's why they drive CABS ;) ;) |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by Neferti on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:14pm
bump
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Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by John Smith on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:27pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:55am:
a bit like energy comapnies ..... :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by John Smith on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:29pm viewpoint wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:37am:
what exactly are you claiming the union did wrong? |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by viewpoint on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:41pm John Smith wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:29pm:
Link.....read it. Incidentally, you'll notice that the ABC ~ 7.30 program collaborated with Fairfax in sourcing the story. |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by John Smith on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:55pm viewpoint wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:41pm:
I did read it ... why don't you tell me what they did wrong? |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by viewpoint on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:03pm John Smith wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:55pm:
Maybe asking you to read it was a mistake. I guess reading and comprehension aren't your strong point. Okay, ask a family member to read it to you if they can read and understand English........or maybe a friend.....if you've got any señora....ask nicely and they may explain. |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by John Smith on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:08pm viewpoint wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:03pm:
so yoú can't see what they did wrong either? was that so hard to admit? ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by laborarecorrupt on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:10pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:55am:
Coudnt agree more. Timing of the royal commission will be interesting |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by viewpoint on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:14pm
FAO Señora Jane Smith
Señora, watch the news (any channel) try freeze frame and rewind if it's not sinking in.......go though it a few times (probably a dozen) and maybe.....shot in the dark here......you'll grasp the idea behind the story......now I'm certainly not going to guarantee that you'll understand, but give it try señora.........you could learn something????? ::) |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by laborarecorrupt on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:49pm
The head of the CFMEU was and old fling of gillards ( she has done a few ) ant he brothe of brendan oconner mp. lol
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by perceptions_now on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:11pm
The last 18 Posts were moved here from Politicians Suck by perceptions_now.
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Title: Unions and bikies Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:58am Quote:
http://www.theage.com.au/national/bikie-amin-fakhri-makes-an-unexpected-career-move-into-the-construction-field-20140127-31iyo.html |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by cods on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:04am
wonder if hes related to Eddie Obeid..lol.. sounds like one of his... you know it doesnt pay to know all this.. its so sickening.
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:58am:
smacks of Wilson..still going on.. |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by GeorgeH on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:07am
Is it too much to ask the less–bright righties to see if a similar thread has already been started?
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Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by FriYAY on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:08am St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:07am:
LOL So the story is from the Age and this is all you can say….. Priceless….. ;D :D ;D :D |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by woody2013 on Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:43am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:58am:
bump |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by laborarecorrupt on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:35pm cods wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:04am:
Maybe the one eyed burger flipper is still involved |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by Frances on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:21pm St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:07am:
I thought I had this sense of deja vu...... |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:25pm Frances wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:21pm:
I think it is the fourth or fifth on this topic. |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:38pm Frances wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:21pm:
Don't worry Andrei will be around any minute to roll them all into one topic, just like he does when they are critical of Tony. |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by Innocent bystander on Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:36pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:38pm:
You could get rolled into one topic ... Boring ;D |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by progressiveslol on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:57pm
This title should have labor in it. Unions and labor are forever entwined
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by perceptions_now on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:12pm
The last 11 Posts were moved here from Politicians Suck by perceptions_now.
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Title: Re: MORE union corruption in building industry Post by skippy. on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:27pm
Mozz used to just move the loony fringe crap to extremism exposed.
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Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:31pm progressiveslol wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:57pm:
I think it is understood that there is a relationship however with this story there is no cross connection just the opportunity to deceptively create one. |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:34pm viewpoint wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:03pm:
Funny - a conservative using the word comprehension. So many of them have no idea what it means. |
Title: Re: UNION CORRUPTION RIFE Post by cods on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:13pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:34pm:
you agree then the CFMEU hasnt done anything wrong either.. ::) ::) ::) amazing.. even their own say they have.. Investigation into influence of Sydney crime figure The CFMEU's national executive has also launched an internal investigation into the influence of Sydney crime figure George Alex in the union's NSW arm after a whistleblower questioned his relationship with senior union officials. Mr Alex - a convicted criminal with links to Comancheros bikies, murderers and drug traffickers - runs a labour hire company that has landed lucrative contracts in NSW and Victoria, including the Barangaroo development. It has been alleged that union figures helped Mr Alex obtain those contracts, despite the fact he has become notorious for running phoenix companies, which go bust then resurface under a different name. As a result, some workers have been left without their entitlements. Late last year, Mr Alex's companies owed more than $1 million in workers' benefits and unpaid taxes in NSW and Victoria. The NSW CFMEU recently recovered $250,000 from Mr Alex. In Victoria, Mr Alex employed Melbourne underworld figure Mick Gatto to negotiate with the unions and obtain work for his labour hire companies, Active and United yahoo.. theres a thousand links just google cfmeu corruption.. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) and its your precious ABC.. to boot. there is always one or two thick people who believe absolutely no one. ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by cods on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:14pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:31pm:
OF COURSE!.. AWU.. HSU.. NO CONNECTION AT ALL. |
Title: Re: Unions and bikies Post by progressiveslol on Jan 29th, 2014 at 2:02pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 8:31pm:
Ill change it for the challenged Unions and labor are forever entwined in corruption and cash cow union dues and hidden taxes against the australian people through union support paybacks |
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