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Title: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by imcrookonit on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 5:49pm
Pregnant women urged not to drink tap water
Date January 23, 2014 Pregnant women in the Queensland town of Kingaroy are urged not to drink tap water because of elevated levels of chemicals known as trihalomethanes. :o Women in the town became concerned after Kingaroy Hospital posted signs around its wards warning pregnant women not to drink tap water, according to the South Burnett Times. The local council issued an alert later on Wednesday after routine testing at the Kingaroy water treatment plant detected elevated levels of trihalomethanes, commonly referred to as THMs. :( The problem is the latest in a series of issues to mar Kingaroy’s water supply over the past four years. THMs can form naturally when organic matter in water reacts with chlorine used to disinfect drinking supplies and can be absorbed by breathing, swallowing or through the skin. The council’s infrastructure general manager, Russell Hood, said the water treatment process at the plant was being reviewed. ‘‘Further advice will be provided when the levels of THMs have been reduced below the guideline values,’’ Mr Hood said. ‘‘Pregnant women who have concerns or questions regarding their health should contact their local doctor.’’ Scientific studies have yet to show conclusive evidence that THMs are harmful to humans, but South Burnett Regional Council and Queensland Health said pregnant women were asked not to drink town water as a precaution. Some international studies have shown THMs could cause some forms of cancer in the liver, kidneys, colon, bladder, rectum and reproductive areas of the body. The 2004 Australian Drinking Water Guidelines recommends that THM levels in drinking water should not exceed 0.25mg/L. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/pregnant-women-urged-not-to-drink-tap-water-20140123-31b3u.html#ixzz2rCnKgcwB |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Gnads on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 6:23pm
Nobody in Kingaroy drinks the town/tap water .. none with any sense or taste buds anyway
they drink tank/rainwater because the town water tastes like crap anyway.. it's only good for watering the lawn & flushing the toilet If the idiots in charge of the Kingaroy Hospital a giving any patients the town water let alone pregnant ones they need their arzes kicked. The town water in every Sth & Nth Burnett town e.g. Nanango, Wondai, Murgon, Gayndah, Mundubbera, Eidsvold & Monto are all the same. All the residents drink tank water. |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by namnugenot on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 7:05pm Gnads wrote on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 6:23pm:
Trihalomethanes are formed from CH4 methane where 3 Hydrogen are replaced by halogens including both chlorine (Cl) and fluorine (F) both of which are added to water supplies. The halogens also include Bromine, Iodine and Astatine and are all highly reactive. I take there is fracking/gas drilling in the area which could account for the methane getting into the water supply in the first place. |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Setanta on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 7:38pm namnugenot wrote on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 7:05pm:
If you google - Kingaroy CSG - you will see they have been having problems with csg for years. I think you may be correct. |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Gnads on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 7:51pm
Cougar Energy has it's CSG project at Kingaroy halted because of contamination of landholders underground water.
Despite the town water being treated with chlorine it's still not good drinking & Sth Burnett Regional has axed any Fluoridation of it's water towns water supplies it's a waste of money as people don't drink it anyway..... it's also a scientific fraud that oral ingestion prevents tooth decay... http://southburnett.com.au/news2/2013/01/fluoride-axed/ |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by True Blue... on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 9:50pm Gnads wrote on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 7:51pm:
Absolutely incredible that people can be so uninformed, and, misinformed... >:( The only water I drink is from my own reverse osmosis system or bottled water when I'm on the road.... The politicians have sold us out and poisoned our water supplies... >:( |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Lols on Jan 23rd, 2014 at 10:33pm
Don't trust the meddling of town water, never have and never will!
We have been on tank water all our lives, and know the damned difference of what chemical free water tastes like. When we go to a restaurant and get a bottle of water on the table, and try it out, I wince, and say quiety to the OH "It still tastes like swimming pool water!" And just cannot stomach it. My son lives in a built up suburban area, and has complained how unappealing the tap water is, and either buys water, or brings containers here to yours truly, and fills them up with our fluoride free rain water. :) We are never wasteful with water as a result of our own supply of it....and especially during drought times. You know, the interesting article I read in one of them free magazines we get from the health food store....was about the introduction of flouride by Hitler, into the neighbouring countries of Germany, because it works on that part of the brain that makes people resist less and would be easy takeovers. I also went to hear a talk by Peter Taubert, and learnt a lot about chemicals in our water and food. He himself is also on tank water. http://www.nutri-tech.com.au/products/education/dvd/peter-taubert-silent-killers.html |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by it_is_the_light on Jan 24th, 2014 at 1:01am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xHPjB0BZ_s
Sodium Fluoride is literally Toxic Waste of the Phosphate Industry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk3P89Lbi1k Fluoride ~ The Hard to Swallow Truth - Documentary |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jan 24th, 2014 at 5:46am
Hydraulic Fracturing - The safe, clean energy of the future
Hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling are safely unlocking vast U.S. reserves of oil and natural gas found in shale and other tight-rock formations. Developing energy from shale is an advanced process that uses the latest drilling technologies and equipment. As for what fracking means to the United States – the answers, are security, economic growth and jobs, jobs, jobs. The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) details how surging domestic oil production is narrowing net petroleum imports – from 60 percent of what the United States used in 2005 to 45 percent in 2011. This change is driven by production from unconventional reserves using fracking and horizontal drilling. Unlocking shale gas now guarantees the U.S. more than a 100-year supply of clean-burning natural gas. http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/exploration-and-production/hydraulic-fracturing/hydraulic-fracturing-primer |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by pansi1951 on Jan 24th, 2014 at 6:12am |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Cliff48 on Jan 24th, 2014 at 6:24am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 24th, 2014 at 5:46am:
So you are using this to say that the drinking water in Kingaroy is safe? |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Gnads on Jan 24th, 2014 at 7:40am it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 24th, 2014 at 1:01am:
Light they do not use "sodium fluoride" to treat public water supplies .... they use Hexafluorosilliic Acid ... which is a contaminated waste product from the fertilizer & aluminium Industries .. |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Gnads on Jan 24th, 2014 at 7:46am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 24th, 2014 at 5:46am:
Total Industry propaganda Andrei ..... it is causing massive problems in the US by contaminating water supplies .... it's progress is bought by legislative loopholes that exempt it from the US Clean Air & Water Acts .. political corruption ... & the Gas isn't for domestic use ..... it's for export to Asia..... & drives up the price of domestic gas including LPG.... just like is happening here in Australia. Sell to Asia for 4 cents a litre ... whilst domestic prices are near $1.00 per litre. CSG or Shale Seam Gas technology is dangerous, unsafe & a long term environmental disaster in the making. |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by namnugenot on Jan 24th, 2014 at 7:50am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 24th, 2014 at 5:46am:
Have to disagree here. 60% percent of Australia relies on aquifers to provide water supplies and much of Australia would not allow much activity other than mining if these were to be rendered unsafe. Being able to turn on your tap and set it on fire is neither safe nor in the long term economic interests of these communities nor is the invariable land slumping and subsidence. If the government however is confident of the safety of these processes then they should be allowing exploitation of these reserves in urban areas as well. If they are not willing to do so then they should not allow it elsewhere. |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by namnugenot on Jan 24th, 2014 at 8:02am Gnads wrote on Jan 24th, 2014 at 7:46am:
Yeah I always had a big issue with the price as well and the fact that it was guaranteed out, I think from memory, 25 years. God knows who negotiated that. |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by The Grappler 2014 on Jan 24th, 2014 at 9:54am
Not much different here. I bring loads of tank water in from the farm for cooking, coffee and stuff. Town water goes for washing up, toilet etc.
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jan 24th, 2014 at 10:53am
I work in the industry and my main area of growth reporting for ANZ region is through shale gas.
The strides made in safet, leakage reduction and safe streamlined delivery are all hugely ahead of industry safety standards. It will deliver increased energy supply within Australia. |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by The Grappler 2014 on Jan 24th, 2014 at 11:07am
But, Andrei - well over 90% of it is going to overseas buyers - not to the Australian market, and prices of gas are already predicted to rise as a result of shale gas procurement.
Not sure how that works, but that's what I read. Point being, regardless - your gas is not going to the Australian market first and thus lowering our cost of living - it is going to export and the pockets of the producers ONLY. The shale gas project at Narrabri will feed - apart from the export terminal at Newcastle - the village of Wellington - 4000 people. Maybe good for Wellington - but what about much larger Newcastle? |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by The Grappler 2014 on Jan 24th, 2014 at 11:11am
I think the water under discussion is the ordinary town water (yuk) - not sure about the shale gas thing up there.
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Gnads on Jan 24th, 2014 at 4:53pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 24th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Complete nonsense Andrei .. the energy/gas is for export ... it is being exploited by foreign interests & profits. It figures you're in the industry. ::) The very same companies that are exploiting hydraulic fracked gas in the US are here in Australia as well as Poms. So the technology is the same .... & it's causing massive environmental problems in the USA. Which of course the industry denies .... but it's a fact .... the world environments where this practise is running amok will pay for a long time because of hydraulic coal/shale seam fraccking. The process of extraction is about as "unnatural" as can be imagined .... so it's a complete lie to call it "NATURAL" gas. |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Gnads on Jan 24th, 2014 at 5:02pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 24th, 2014 at 11:11am:
Yes it's town water Grappler .... but the locals(townies) don't drink it anyway ...... the gas is coal seam gas extracted by a process called "gasification". http://www.sixdegrees.org.au/content/underground-coal-gasification-plants-must-all-be-shut-down-now |
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Title: Re: Is The Water Safe To Drink, Or Not?. Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 25th, 2014 at 4:13pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 24th, 2014 at 10:53am:
To those who aren't killed by methane in the air and their water supply? |
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