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Title: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Morning Mist on Jan 8th, 2014 at 8:38am
Here's an article from The Conversation. Typically, this academic accuses others of racism and stereotypes but then launches into the very thing she's accusing others of.
You don't have to be a critical thinker to be employed at the academe, you just have to be a moral crusader for a selected host of trendy topics. Quote:
https://theconversation.com/not-your-asian-stereotype-the-fight-for-diverse-identities-21677#comment_284785 |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Morning Mist on Jan 8th, 2014 at 8:41am
Of course, my reply to this article was removed. If you can't convince through reasoned argument, then censor! All hail the superiority of 'whiteness studies' academics!
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Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Oh_Yeah on Jan 8th, 2014 at 8:48am
well why don't you post your reply here?
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Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by The Grappler 2014 on Jan 8th, 2014 at 8:53am
Well - it's been long a truism of the 'racist' decriers that racism (etc) only exists from White Men down... and never the other way around.
Apparently we White Men are so privileged that we can afford to be the majority of those living under bridges and such - and still have a huge comfort zone tucked away, get first call on jobs and promotions and so forth. So what if some guy thinks the White Guy was lucky to snag a younger Asian chick - how does that unfounded opinion do anyone harm? Unless there is/was some hidden undercurrent here that the writer herself is unconsciously acknowledging...... (repeat until you get it). Jessica Walton? Sounds Asian to me... I'll have the Kung Fau Macca's burger thanks.. with fried fries... Honestly - in this day and age - hasn't the 'racist' tag been done to death? Christ - as a woman she already gets affirmative actioned education, job placement, promotion, and everything else -and as an Asian that's double..... if she's lesbian that's three boosts.. how's her English.. poor English is another boost... can't discriminate you know... unless you're a White man with all those privileges just handed to you from birth..... Man - ah je' got ta git me ONE day o' dat Asian woman O-pression dere - git me outta dis here cane fiel', dat evah loomin' poverty an' a few chitlins an' sow bell-eh fo' dinnah.... git me a job in dat big white house dere.. mebbe advise Mistah White Man's Black President on race relation.. yeah.. dat mint julip on da front porch.... dat fat salary...an' no workin' in dat hot sun 'til sunset... man .. one day.. one day.. I's goin' git me outta dis here place an' MAKE somepin' o' dis life! |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by The Grappler 2014 on Jan 8th, 2014 at 9:00am
Footnote:- For the assembling conga line of gainsayers...
I had a Chinese lady staying for three days - she said that being with me was being without pressure for a change. I am a most accepting person and treat everyone - even doctors and highly placed actors etc - as human beings and equals, something often sadly lacking in their often lonely lives. It is most disconcerting to me to have an Asian lady - even a Japanese lady of high class - automatically assume a 'submissive' or 'follower' posture..... "No.. NO, Madam! Please walk beside me and be part of me - it gets mighty lonely up here on my own!" Gainsayers with no real knowledge or understanding may eat my shorts. And no - you may NOT assume. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Soren on Jan 8th, 2014 at 9:17am Tiger Mom Amy Chua has penned a new parenting guide called 'The Triple Package' which lays out a controversial theory for success in modern America Declares there to be only eight successful and superior groups of people in the United States Includes the Chinese are one of these groupings along with Indians and Jewish to name two others ... She breaks down the 'Triple Package' succinctly for her readers as follows: 1) A superiority complex: Chau believes that any cultural group who innately thinks they are just better than others has an advantage. Ignoring the wars, genocide and abject human misery this kind of thinking has caused, Chau and her husband declare that 'the superiority complex is antithetical to mainstream liberal thinking...the stuff of racism , colonialism, imperialism, Nazism.' 2) Insecurity: Chau and her husband believe that a deep seated insecurity can be a motivating drive to achieving success. 'That insecurity should be a critical lever of success is another anathema, flouting the entire orthodoxy of contemporary popular and therapeutic psychology,' they write according to the New York Post. 'Note that there’s a deep tension between insecurity and a superiority complex,' the authors continue. 'It’s odd to think of people being simultaneously insecure but also convinced of their divine election or superiority.' 3) Impulse Control: Chau thinks that perseverance and patience are virtues that have been lost to most Americans - but still exist among her eight golden cultural groups. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2534257/Tiger-Mom-roars-time-book-naming-eight-superior-groups-people.html#ixzz2pl1eQvPP Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Yadda on Jan 8th, 2014 at 9:38am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 8:41am:
Morning Mist, Yes, that is what the ideologues do. Ideologues will promote their own worldview, but will try to gag or censure any opinion that does not coincide with their own opinion/view. That is not a healthy mind, imo. It is not an open mind, open to truth. There is no debate possible, with someone who wishes to only have their own views 'broadcast', and seeks at every opportunity, to gag or silence other views. Dictionary; ideologue = = a dogmatic or uncompromising adherent of an ideology. p.s. There are a lot of ideologues drawing a pay check at the ABC, particularly in the Q and A production crew, imo. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Morning Mist on Jan 8th, 2014 at 10:09am The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 8:48am:
Sure. Quote:
If there was something wrong with it, then all they had to do was counter it with a reasoned argument. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Yadda on Jan 8th, 2014 at 10:30am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 10:09am:
Exactly so. But ideologues are not interested in the contest of ideas [which is what debate is]. I believe that ideologues often see, and understand, that the 'points' of their argument, are too difficult for them to defend in reasoned argument and debate, or they can see that trying to explain their POV will expose how ridiculous their argument is. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Honky on Jan 8th, 2014 at 10:47am Quote:
Gee. That sounds very traumatic. Give this woman a disbaility pension for PTSD on the double! Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 8:38am:
How can being "normal" also be a privilege? Privilege is by definition, special benefits unavailable to "normal" people. And is it really a great mystery why a majority is considered "normal". Go back to Korea, and see if it's the honkies or the koreans who are considered "normal" there. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Honky on Jan 8th, 2014 at 10:59am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 8:38am:
Translation: "Normal" people told me to stop being such a stupid, whiny baby. But nobody tells THIS strong, empowered woman what to do! It's not that she's fishing for sympathy to prop up her fragile ego - no, no, no, she's strong and empowered and don't need your pity - she's fearlessly taking on the world, fighting the good fight for all of us. She may just be the greatest hero the world has ever known. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by namnugenot on Jan 8th, 2014 at 11:10am
Interesting the attack on an Indian student in Melbourne was by a gang of "African appearance". Apparently they must be white Africans.
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Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Honky on Jan 8th, 2014 at 11:14am Quote:
In other words, talk instead of being a sulky, passive-aggressive bitch. Revolutionary stuff. The fact that she thinks this is novel advice speaks to the character of her and the wetnaps who would come to her defence. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by FriYAY on Jan 8th, 2014 at 11:25am namnugenot wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 11:10am:
Don’t forget the “shame Australia shame” racist attack on the Indian student, which ended up being the wanker torching his own car for insurance and getting burnt.... ::) |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by The Heartless Felon on Jan 8th, 2014 at 1:27pm
Right! I've got it now. When I walk through West End and get asked for cigarettes by the local indigenes (I dont smoke) and get called a Captain Cook cnut, I'm a racist...
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Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Gnads on Jan 8th, 2014 at 2:01pm The Heartless Felon wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 1:27pm:
Of course you are ...... only whitey is a racist. Funny thing though most of those calling you a Captain Cook Cnut are probably 3/4 or 7/8 or 15/16th relatives of yours Captain. ;D |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Gnads on Jan 8th, 2014 at 2:01pm
deleted ... posted twice
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Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Sparky on Jan 8th, 2014 at 2:11pm
Don't worry viewers, these do-gooders will be a thing of the past one day.
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Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by The Grappler 2014 on Jan 8th, 2014 at 2:39pm Sparky wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 2:11pm:
In case anyone hasn't been looking around lately - the West has just about run out of time and money for them.... not a moment too soon. Remember Starship Troopers - the book? The social scientists nearly ruined it for everyone in the 20th early 21st Century until the military took over and imposed rules... I do not base my prediction of a 'strong' government takeover here (and elsewhere) on that prophetic work - I base it on my observations and knowledge of the world around me.... Bring On The Horsemen... they're coming anyway so we might as well catch a ride..... |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Sparky on Jan 8th, 2014 at 2:46pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 2:39pm:
I wrote that statement because I'm always asking myself- has the left wing social engineers made Australia a better place? I can tell you that Sydney where I come from is going down the gurgler. People are sick of them and their politics. It's misguided. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by The Grappler 2014 on Jan 8th, 2014 at 6:00pm
Since the rise of the social scientists - which followed the 'free tertiary education' era of the Whitlam government, which attracted women in droves to universities, primarily since most of them did not have family fiscal responsibility to pursue instead in a time of vibrant and positive economy - which lead to the massive rise of women with Arts degrees - which lead to the assumption that this meant they knew it all - well - start from thirty odd years ago and what this has wrought in reality since the advent of feminism and affirmative action for women and so forth.
Now - I don't 'blame' women for grabbing these things handed out so freely - and those who did the handing out and still do know full well what they are doing - but I do see a clear correlation between this rise of the 'female side' social scientist plague and the demise of modern western civilisation, and its death plunge into the abyss. More responsibility needed and less theory and rhetoric.... |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Gnads on Jan 8th, 2014 at 6:03pm
You'd be an avid Germaine Greer fan ey Grappler? ;D
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Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by The Grappler 2014 on Jan 8th, 2014 at 7:06pm
Germies - well - let's just say that one night in the 1970's I had the privilege of being in a room with a group of ultra-feminists. The lass I was with said not to be a tourist...
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Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Soren on Jan 8th, 2014 at 7:18pm Gnads wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 6:03pm:
Strictly for GG's gusset's fans. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Sparky on Jan 8th, 2014 at 7:23pm
The thing I dislike about Germaine the most is how she did the ex pat thing and bagged us out to the poms for years. People like her just think Australians are beneath them. I wish she would just go away.
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Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Soren on Jan 8th, 2014 at 9:23pm
You don't see this even at Auburn, Granville, Blacktown or Cabramatta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5M3hUDHQfE#t=59 Race? Culture? Timetable? What? |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Innocent bystander on Jan 9th, 2014 at 12:28am Sparky wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 7:23pm:
Look if she got hit by a bus you'd feel sorry for the bus. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Jackness on Jan 9th, 2014 at 1:23am
Just goes to show that asians are just as racist, if not more.
But obviously that will never be acknowledged in public right. Because only the whites/Anglo-Australians are racist. But never the other races. |
Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Sparky on Jan 9th, 2014 at 4:29am Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 12:28am:
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Title: Re: Racism and whiteness ... from The Conversation Post by Billy Jack on Jan 9th, 2014 at 4:29am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 6:00pm:
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