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Title: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Pete Waldo on Dec 28th, 2013 at 2:31am
falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamic_slavery_dhimmitude.htm
The Islamic practice of capturing and enslaving Africans (and others) has gone on without interruption in places like the Sudan, and continues unabated, to this day. This is because slavery remains sanctioned by the Quran, and as his follower's example Muhammad himself captured innocents as "booty" of his imperialistic conquest, and enslaved them and traded in slaves to finance his war machine. Bukhari B34, #432 Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" Tabari VIII:39 "Then the Messenger of Allah sent Sa'd bin Zayd with some of the Qurayza captives to Najd, and in exchange for them he purchased horses and arms." Video on Islamic genocide and slavery in the Sudan youtube.com/watch?v=2BqV4gBjCTA From this perspective, we can see why some of Muhammad's followers might view the slavery of dhimmitude, as a privilege! The practice of capturing Africans (and others) and pressing them into slavery, wasn't "officially" abolished in Saudi Arabia and Yemen until 1962, UAE 1963, and Oman not until 1970, but only in response to outside pressure. Yet while supposedly abolished in the UAE for example, consider what life is like for those on whose backs the opulent luxury of Dubai was built, let alone what can happen to a non-Muslim traveler who chooses a Muslim ruled destination like Dubai. Sura 33:50-51 - "O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ... this only for thee, and not for believers [at large]; we know what we have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hand possess; - in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And God is oft-forgiving, most merciful. Regarding the spiritual reason for Islamic slavery and dhimmitude, as opposed to freedom, liberty and the right to self-determination of all citizens regardless of race or religion - the very antithesis of Islam - please refer to the home page. Sahih Muslim Hadith: "It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a captive woman after she is purified (of menses or delivery) in case she has a husband, her marriage is abrogated after she becomes captive. Video on the history of slavery in Islam youtube.com/watch?v=pJhSejBDTPI A lot of information on dhimmitude at dhimmitude.org Check the Wikipedia bio page for creds regarding that website, of an Egyptian born Brit that writes under the pseudonym of Bat Ye'or, meaning "daughter of the Nile". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Ye%27or |
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Title: Re: Islam's Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Pete Waldo on Dec 28th, 2013 at 2:35am
falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamic_slavery_dhimmitude.htm#dhimmitude_explained
Question What do you say, O scholars of Islam, shining luminaries who dispel the darkness (may God lengthen your days!)? What do you say of the innovations introduced by the cursed unbelievers [Jewish and Christian] into Cairo, into the city of al-Muizz [founder of Cairo, 969] which by its splendor in legal and philosophic studies sparkles in the first rank of Muslim cities? (question at the above link, answer at the following link) falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamic_slavery_dhimmitude.htm#dhimmitude_in_practice Dhimmitude in PRACTICE exposing the foolish myth of "tolerant" Muslim masters: The Answer Of The Shaikh Hasan Al Kafrawi, The Shafiite [Professor of canon law in Cairo, d. 1788 CE] Praise be to God, the guide of the right way! The decision given by the Shaikh ar-Ramli [a great Cairo legal authority, d. 1596], by the Shaikh al-Islam [the Muslim religious authority in Constantinople], and by the learned scholars whose decrees can hardly be written down here, may be worded as follows: "It is forbidden to the tolerated peoples living on Muslim territory to clothe themselves in the same manner as the chiefs, the scholars, and the nobles. They should not be allowed to clothe themselves in costly fabrics which have been cut in the modes which are forbidden to them, in order that they may not offend the sensibilities of poor Muslims and in order that their faith in their religion should not be shaken by this. [Poor Muslims may regret their faith when they see how well-dressed the Christians and Jews are.] "They should not be permitted to employ mounts like the Muslims. They must use neither saddles, nor iron-stirrups, in order to be distinguished from the true believers. They must under no circumstance ride horses because of the noble character of this animal. The Most-High has said [Qu'ran 8:62]: 'And through powerful squadrons [of horses] through which you will strike terror into your own and God's enemies.' [A verse of the Qu'ran makes a good support for a law. Verses may even be torn out of their context.] "They should not be permitted to take Muslims into their service because God has glorified the people of Islam. He has given them His aid and has given them a guarantee by these words [Qu'ran 3:140]: 'Surely God will never give preeminence to unbelievers over the true believers.' Now this is just what is happening today, for their servants are Muslims taken from among men of a mature age or from those who are still young. This is one of the greatest scandals to which the guardians of authority must put an end. It is wrong to greet them even with a simple 'how-do-you-do'; to serve them, even for wages, at the baths or in what relates to their riding animals; and it is forbidden to accept anything from their hand, for that would be an act of debasement by the faithful. They are forbidden while going through the streets to ape the manners of the Muslims, and still less those of the cities of the religion. They shall only walk single-file, and in narrow lanes they must withdraw even more into the most cramped part of the road. "One may read that which follows in Bukhari and Muslim [religious authorities of the ninth century]: 'Jews and Christians shall never begin a greeting; if you encounter one of them on the road, push him into the narrowest and tightest spot.' The absence of every mark of consideration toward them is obligatory for us; we ought never to give them the place of honor in an assembly when a Muslim is present. This is in order to humble them and to honor the true believers. They should under no circumstances acquire Muslim slaves, white or black. Therefore they should get rid of the slaves which they now have for the), have no right to own them. If one of their slaves who was formerly an infidel, becomes a Muslim, he shall be removed from them, and his master, willingly or unwillingly, shall be compelled to sell him and to accept the price for him. "It is no longer permitted them to put themselves, with respect to their houses, on an equal footing with the dwellings of their Muslim neighbors, and still less to build their buildings higher. If they are of the same height, or higher, it is incumbent upon us to pull them down to a size a little less than the houses of the true believers. This conforms to the word of the Prophet: 'Islam rules, and nothing shall raise itself above it.' This is also in order to hinder them from knowing where our weak spots are and in order to make a distinction between their dwellings and ours. "They are forbidden to build new churches, chapels, or monasteries in any Muslim land. We should destroy everything that is of new construction in every place, such as Cairo, for instance, founded under the Muslim religion, for it is said in a tradition of Umar: 'No church shall be built in Islam.' They shall no longer be permitted to repair the parts of these [post-Islamic] buildings which are in ruins. However, the old buildings [of pre-Islamic times] which are found in a land whose population had embraced Islam need not be destroyed. They shall not, however, be enlarged by means of repairs or otherwise. In case the tolerated peoples [Jews, Christians, etc.] act contrary to these provisions we will be obliged to destroy everything that has been added to the original size of the building. [Only pre-Islamic churches and synagogues may be repaired; new ones must |
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Title: Re: Islam's Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Pete Waldo on Dec 28th, 2013 at 2:35am
"Entrance into Muslim territory by infidels of foreign lands under the pact guaranteeing protection to the tolerated peoples is permitted only for the time necessary to settle their business affairs. If they exceed this period, their safe-conduct having expired, they will be put to death or be subject to the payment of the head-tax.[Jews and Christians of foreign lands must pay a special head-tax if they wish to remain permanently in Muslim lands.] As to those with whom the ruler may have signed treaties, and with whom he, for whatever motive, may have granted a temporary truce, they form only the smallest fraction. But they, too, must not pass the fixed limit of more than four months [without paying the tax], particularly if this occurs at a time when Islam is prosperous and flourishing. The Most-High has said [Qu'ran 2: 2341: 'They should wait four months,' and he has again said [47:37]: 'Do not show any cowardice, and do not at all invite the unbelievers to a peace when you have the upper-hand and may God be with you.'
"Their men and women are ordered to wear garments different from those of the Muslims in order to be distinguished from them. They are forbidden to exhibit anything which might scandalize us, as, for instance, their fermented liquors, and if they do not conceal these from us, we are obliged to pour them into the street." This which precedes is only a part of that which has been written on this subject, and if we should wish to mention it all here it would take too long. But this brief recital will be sufficient for those men whose intelligence God has enlightened, to whom he has given the breath of life, and whose inner thoughts he has sanctified. Now let us beg the Sovereign Master of the world to extend His justice over humanity universally, in order that they may direct all their efforts toward raising with firmness the banner of the religion. In a tradition of the sincere and faithful [Calif Abu Bekr, 632-634] it is likewise said: "The abolition of a sacrilegious innovation is preferable to the permanent operation of the law." In another tradition it is also said: "One hour of justice is worth more than sixty years of ritual." The verses of the Qu'ran and the traditions are very numerous on this subject, and they are known by all the faithful. God has cursed the former nations because they have not condemned scandalous things; and He has said [Qu'ran 5:82]: "They [the children of Israel] seek not at all to turn one another from the bad actions which they have committed. 0 how detestable were their actions. But He has punished these men because of their obstinate conduct." The Most-High has also said [Qu'ran 9: 1 131: "Those who bid what is right and forbid what is wrong, who observe the divine precepts, will be rewarded. Announce these glad tidings to the Muslims." May the Most High God admit us to the number of this company and may He lead us in the paths of His favor. Certainly God is powerful in everything; He is full of mercy to His servants; He sees all. Written by the humble Hasan al Kafrawi, the Shafiite. [1772 CE] |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Pete Waldo on Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:45am
While I was participating in this forum I increasingly realized that the actual physical slavery of Islam, is certainly not as widespread as the slavery of the anti-religion of Islam is, itself.
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 6th, 2014 at 3:14pm:
As the very antithesis of our God-given rights to freedom, liberty and self-determination, the anti-religion of Islam is, in and of itself, slavery. Speaking honestly and openly about Muhammad and Islam, as revealed through Islam's own books, may be punished by the death penalty for "blasphemy" by statute in several Islamic States. If a follower of Muhammad exercises his God-given freedom of self-determination and chooses to leave Islam to begin a life in Jesus Christ, or even to have no religion at all, the punishment is death for "apostasy" by statute in several Islamic States. The simple fact of the matter is, that if Muhammad's followers had not been intimidated into accepting the chains of Islam or face punishment, the counter-Gospel, history-devoid, geographically impossible anti-religion of Islam would have in all likelihood died with Muhammad. At a minimum, in Islamic countries that do not yet impose the death penalty for apostasy, a person who chooses to leave Islam stands to be disowned, disinherited, unemployed and ostracized by their community, friends, and even by their own family. Little doubt this is primarily a reflection of the jealousy that those stuck in the bondage of Islam feel, toward one of their former brethren who has broken free of the chains of Islam, and its vain rituals. Particularly when that individual is given a new heart, and begins a new life in the freedom they find in Christ Jesus, as so many of their former brethren have discovered. http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/ John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. If any of the above angered you, as you search your heart, can you see that your anger may be rooted in the bondage that you suffer, making you jealous of others that are free? Take this young former Muslim even in Canada for example, that left Islam when he began a life in Jesus Christ, whose own mother had him thrown off of a 3rd floor mall balcony: http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=DLDWGGNX The above didn't even get into the bondage that so many women suffer in Islam as "maids" of their "masters" - that is, husbands. (video link and print transcript) http://www.memri.org/report/en/print2224.htm Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that she is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires. Let alone that all a man has to do is say "I divorce you" three times, and it is done. In Saudi Arabia and Malaysia, even by text message. Needless to say it is a far different matter for Muslim wives that wish to divorce their husbands. https://www.google.com/#q=bridges+tv+founder+beheads+wife One has to wonder how many homes of Muslim families, even in the west, are deeded to the husband alone? |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by gandalf on Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:07pm Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:45am:
A complete misrepresentation of the hadith. |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by wally1 on Jan 10th, 2014 at 3:44pm
How the jews and christians treatment women like rubbish
Article to long to post http://www.mwlusa.org/topics/history/herstory.html |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Soren on Jan 10th, 2014 at 3:58pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:07pm:
How is it a misrepresenstation? Narrated 'Ikrima: http://www.quranexplorer.com/Hadith/English/Hadith/bukhari/007.072.715.html Rifa'a divorced his wife whereupon 'AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. 'Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Apostle came, 'Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!" When 'AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, "By Allah! I have done no wrong to him but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this," holding and showing the fringe of her garment, 'Abdur-Rahman said, "By Allah, O Allah's Apostle! She has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa'a." Allah's Apostle said, to her, "If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa'a unless Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you." Then the Prophet saw two boys with 'Abdur-Rahman and asked (him), "Are these your sons?" On that 'Abdur-Rahman said, "Yes." The Prophet said, "You claim what you claim (i.e.. that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow," Mohammed didn't admonish the husband for beating her green and did send her back to him because her claim of his impotence was proved incorrect, having fathered two boys. So where's the misrepresentation? |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Stratos on Jan 10th, 2014 at 4:03pm wally1 wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 3:44pm:
Admittedly, womens rights are on average worse in countries that are Islamic, but both religions are clearly anti-female when taken at face value. |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by gandalf on Jan 10th, 2014 at 8:46pm Soren wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 3:58pm:
Good grief, where to start... 1. Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:45am:
She did nothing of the sort. She complained to Aisha - and complained to the prophet about a separate matter 2. Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:45am:
We do not know this - since the hadith is about the prophet ruling on a separate matter. 3. polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:07pm:
Complete rubbish. He did nothing of the sort - he told her she would not be able to remarry another guy unless she had intercourse with her current husband. |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Pete Waldo on Jan 10th, 2014 at 9:17pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:07pm:
Yes I agree it was, and I apologize for that. It was something I had copied from someone else, long ago, before I found the resources I use today. I have now corrected my site. Certainly no need to misrepresent the Hadith, when it gets so much more revealing than that, all on its own. For example how many women to you believe would desire to have sex, with the very men responsible for beheading their innocent, faithful, farm boy sons, their husbands, fathers, grandfathers and neighbors, while having their way with their little daughters, sisters and mothers? http://www.brotherpete.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm (1) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interrupt us?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence. (Book #34, Hadith #432) So the only discussion was about whether they would bring better prices if they were impregnated or not. Or perhaps his followers were decent enough to not want to burden the captives with children, until Muhammad instructed them to complete the sex act. As confirmed in the last verse. (2) Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I saw Abu Said and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu Said said, "We went with Allah's Apostle, in the Ghazwa of Barli Al-Mustaliq and we captured some of the 'Arabs as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to practice coitus interruptus. We asked Allah's Apostle (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you not to do so. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence." (Book #46, Hadith #718) (3) Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist." (Book #59, Hadith #459) (6) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection." (Book #62, Hadith #137) (7) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That while he was sitting with the Prophet a man from the Ansar came and said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get slave girls from the war captives and we love property; what do you think about coitus interruptus?" Allah's Apostle said, "Do you do that? It is better for you not to do it, for there is no soul which Allah has ordained to come into existence but will be created." (Book #77, Hadith #600) (8) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interrupt us. The Prophet said, "It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection." Qaza'a said, "I heard Abu Sa'id saying that the Prophet said, 'No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it." (Book #93, Hadith #506) No surprise then his followers continue the tradition today: "Eyewitness accounts detailing the militia attacks are horrifying." "Since last fall, women have reported more than 500 rapes. Three women said five [Janjaweed Muslim] militiamen beat and raped them last August. The women said, "After they abused us, they told us that now we would have Arab babies. And, if they would find any [more] women, they would rape them again to change the color of their children."" Or search regarding the same in the Islamic Second Jihad conquest of Europe: https://www.google.com/#q=muslim+rape+england+sweden+norway For example: http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2013/10/31/sweden-a-new-hell-for-women-2/ Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not.. |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by freediver on Jan 12th, 2014 at 10:08am polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
The fact is, Muhammed specifically permitted wife beating and never lay down any limitations on how far you can go, despite the evidence of extremely cruel levels of domestic violence being brought before him. Quote:
WTF? |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Pete Waldo on Jan 12th, 2014 at 11:11am freediver wrote on Jan 12th, 2014 at 10:08am:
It's certainly Quranic. Sura (4:34) - Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. Because women are considered as: Sura 2:223 your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will... The men in the video at the following link can't even understand the emotional scarring from the slave status of Muslim wives thus treated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ChnpaMK1oLQ |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by gandalf on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:43am freediver wrote on Jan 12th, 2014 at 10:08am:
This is false, and you should know it to be so. The limitations have been discussed and you have even mocked those limitations. So please don't go claiming no such limitations exist. |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Sparky on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:46am polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:43am:
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by gandalf on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:49am
I'll take that as a comment sparky
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Sparky on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:51am polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:49am:
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 13th, 2014 at 12:02pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:43am:
It was Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy who made wife beating halal. www.quran.com/4/34 |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by freediver on Jan 13th, 2014 at 12:02pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:43am:
You'll have to remind me. |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Pete Waldo on Jan 26th, 2014 at 2:10am polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:43am:
I have yet to run across a male follower of Muhammad who can find his way to argue against anything other than the extent of the physical punishment of a wife beating. The fact is that the physical pain of the beating is rendered moot, compared to the psychological impact of the slavery - the "masters and maids" relationship - that is imposed between Muslim men and their wives. http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1465wmv&ak=null Like when Muslim men are unable to see any inequity between a Muslim husband being able to divorce his wife by text message in Malaysia for example..... https://www.google.com/#q=malaysia+divorce+text+message .....and what women know that they may well face, for expressing a desire to divorce their husbands, even in New York: https://www.google.com/#q=mo+hassan+beheads+wife+divorce Like when Muhammad's male followers can't see anything wrong with a 53 year old man violating a 9-year old child. But then of course they can't, because their own "messenger" did. Narrated 'aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Book #62, Hadith #64) Not only his sex slave, but doubling as his washerwoman too! Sahih Bukhari volume 1, book 4, number 231: Narrated Sulaiman bin Aasar: I asked 'Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "i used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's apostle and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. " Like when Muslim men can't understand why their wife may not be in the mood sometimes: Sahih Muslim, Book 8: Number 3368: Abu Huraira (Allah he pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may, peace be upon him) as saying: When a man invites his wife to his bed and she does not come, and he (the husband) spends the night being angry with her, the angels curse her until morning. Like when Muslim men assign stupidity to women as an inherent trait: Tabari I:280 "Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of the world menstruate and are stupid." Like when Muslim men cannot see any inequity in a woman's testimony only being worth half that of a man's in court: Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion." Like when Muslim men can't see anything wrong with female genital mutilation: http://www.beholdthebeast.com/women_in_islam.htm#female_genital_mutilation Just as was prophesied in scripture: Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not... http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_and_women.htm As an aside, ironically, Mo Hassan who beheaded his wife in New York for filing for a divorce (and described doing so as having brought him great relief) was the founder of "Bridges TV", that he set up to offer a whitewashed dissimulated version of Islam to gullible Americans, to dupe the ignorant that insist on self-imposed abject ignorance to Islam, into being advocates - dhimmi dupes for Islam in the U.S. - as they've already accomplished in so many of the brainwashed anti-Zionist numbskulls on college campuses. |
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Title: Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude Post by Pete Waldo on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:38am
Came across this today:
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Slavery#Historical "A comparison of the Islamic slave trade to the American slave trade reveals some interesting contrasts. While two out of every three slaves shipped across the Atlantic were men, the proportions were reversed in the Islamic slave trade. Two women for every man were enslaved by the Muslims. While the mortality rate for slaves being transported across the Atlantic was as high as 10%, the percentage of slaves dying in transit in the Trans Sahara and East African slave trade was between 80 and 90%! While almost all the slaves shipped across the Atlantic were for agricultural work, most of the slaves destined for the Muslim Middle East were for sexual exploitation as concubines, in harems, and for military service. While many children were born to slaves in the Americas, and millions of their descendants are citizens in Brazil and the USA to this day, very few descendants of the slaves that ended up in the Middle East survive. While most slaves who went to the Americas could marry and have families, most of the male slaves destined for the Middle East were castrated, and most of the children born to the women were killed at birth. It is estimated that possibly as many as 11 million Africans were transported across the Atlantic (95% of which went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions. Only 5% of the slaves went to the United States). However, at least 28 million Africans were enslaved in the Muslim Middle East. As at least 80% of those captured by Muslim slave traders were calculated to have died before reaching the slave markets, it is believed that the death toll from the 14 centuries of Muslim slave raids into Africa could have been over 112 million. When added to the number of those sold in the slave markets, the total number of African victims of the Trans Saharan and East African slave trade could be significantly higher than 140 million people." |
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