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For global warming believers, 2013 was the year from Hell


Almost everything that could go wrong did go wrong for the cause of global warming

2013 has been a gloomy year for global warming enthusiasts. The sea ice in the Antarctic set a record, according to NASA, extending over a greater area than at any time since 1979 when satellite measurements first began. In the Arctic the news is also glum. Five years ago, Al Gore predicted that by 2013 “the entire North polar ice cap will be gone.” Didn’t happen. Instead, a deflated Gore saw the Arctic ice cap increase by 50% over 2012. This year’s Arctic ice likewise exceeded that of 2008, the year of his prediction. And that of 2009, 2010 and 2011.

Weather between the poles has also conspired to make the global warming believers look bad. In December, U.S. weather stations reported over 2000 record cold and snow days. Almost 60% of the U.S. was covered in snow, twice as much as last year. The heavens even opened up in the Holy Land, where an awestruck citizenry saw 16 inches of snow fall in Jerusalem, almost three feet in its environs. Snow blanketed Cairo for the first time in more than 100 years.

2013 marks the 17th year of no warming on the planet. It marks the first time that James Hansen, Al Gore’s guru and the one whose predictions set off the global warming scare, admitted that warming had stopped. It marks the first time that major media enforcers of the orthodoxy — the Economist, Reuters and the London Telegraph – admitted that the science was not settled on global warming, the Economist even mocking the scientists’ models by putting them on “negative watch.” Scientific predictions of global cooling – until recently mostly shunned in the academic press for fear of being labeled crackpot – were published and publicized by no less than the BBC, a broadcaster previously unmatched in the anthropogenic apocalyptic media.

The heavens even opened up in the Holy Land, where 16 inches of snow fell in Jerusalem
2013 was likewise bleak for businesses banking on global warming. Layoffs and bankruptcies continued to mount for European and North American companies producing solar panels and wind turbines, as did their pleas for subsidies to fight off what they labelled unfair competition from Chinese firms. Starting in 2013, though, their excuses have been wearing thin. China’s Suntech, the world’s largest solar panel manufacturer, has now filed for bankruptcy, as has LDK Solar, another major firm. Sinovel, China’s largest manufacturers of wind turbines and the world second largest, reported it lost $100-million after its revenues plunged 60%, and it is now closing plants in Canada, the U.S., and Europe.

While these no-carbon technologies get buried, carbon rich fuels go gung ho. Last month Germany fired up a spanking new coal plant, the first of 10 modern CO2-gushers that Europe’s biggest economy will be banking on to power its economy into the 21st century. Worldwide, 1200 coal-fired plants are in the works. According to the International Agency, coal’s dominance will especially grow in the countries of the developing world, helping to raise their poor out of poverty as they modernize their economies.

But important as coal is, the fossil fuel darlings are indisputably shale gas and shale oil. This week the U.K. sloughed off the naysayers and announced it will be going all out to tap into these next-generation fuels. Half of the UK will be opened up to drilling to accomplish for the U.K. what shale oil and shale gas are doing for the U.S. – drastically lowering energy costs while eliminating the country’s dependence on foreign fuels. China, too, has decided to tap into the shale revolution – in a deal with the U.S. announced this week, it will be exploiting what some estimate to be the world’s biggest shale gas reserves, equivalent in energy content to about half the oil in Saudi Arabia.

2013 as well marks a turning point for the governments of the world. January 1, 2013, Day One of the second phase of the Kyoto Protocol, saw Kyoto abandoned by Canada and Russia, two fossil fuel powerhouses. With their departure Kyoto became a club for the non-emitters – the Kyoto Protocol now only covers  a paltry 15% of global emissions. At UN-sponsored talks on global warming in Warsaw last month, the Western countries of Europe, North America, and Australia refused to even discuss a proposal from developing countries that would limit emissions in the future.

2013 also saw Australia elect a climate-skeptic government in an election that was hailed as a referendum on climate change. Upon winning, the government promptly proceeded to scrap the country’s carbon tax along with its climate change ministry, now in the rubbish heap of history. Other countries are taking note of the public’s attitude toward climate change alarmism – almost nowhere does the public believe the scary scenarios painted by the climate change advocates.

2013 was the best of years for climate skeptics; the worst of years for climate change enthusiasts for whom any change – or absence of change — in the weather served as irrefutable proof of climate change. The enthusiasts fell into disbelief that everyone didn’t join them in pooh-poohing the failure of the climate models. That governments and the public would abandon the duty to stop climate change was in their minds no more thinkable than Hell freezing over. Which the way things are going for them, may happen in 2014.

Tough year wasn't it lads, no amount of talking out of your arse and making sh#t up can get around that temp graph, all that ice, and all those failed models  ;D

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 21^st, 2013 at 6:21pm:

Tough year wasn't it lads, no amount of talking out of your arse and making sh#t up can get around that temp graph, all that ice, and all those failed models  ;D

Whoever wrote the opening post is risibly ignorant. I will agree, however, that the Abbott government is probably the worst blunder that the Australian electorate has ever made.

Its ok hash, I know the temperature is still going up, the ice has all melted, and all the models were spot on down there in the looney lefts alternative universe where you reside.  ;D

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 9:21pm:

Its ok hash, I know the temperature is still going up, the ice has all melted, and all the models were spot on down there in the looney lefts alternative universe where you reside.  ;D

As I said:
# wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:19pm:

... risibly ignorant. ...

# wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:08am:

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 26th, 2013 at 9:21pm: Its ok hash, I know the temperature is still going up, the ice has all melted, and all the models were spot on down there in the looney lefts alternative universe where you reside.  ;D As I said: # wrote on Dec 26th, 2013 at 8:19pm: ... risibly ignorant. ...

As I said, alternative universe  ;D

All well and good, except 2013 was the hotest year on record.

... and Typhoon Tony is a long, long way from removing the carbon tax.   At the moment, Australia has a carbon tax and its value is > $20  a tonne.



2013 is the year Australia marked its hottest day, month, season, 12-month period and, by December 31, hottest calendar year.
"We're smashing the records,"


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/2013-australias-hottest-year-on-record-20131220-2zqpf.html#ixzz2odpehUJl

Usually I would respond to a post claiming that there really is a "Typhoon Tony" to the mental health experts but just for fun I will respond and let you know that the temperature "record" LOL actually only represents an incredibly tiny fraction of one percent of the real temperature record, a tiny fraction of one percent might be enough for the global warming cult to conclude that sh#t this is the hottest its ever been in 80 million years but for us sane folk we might need a bit more convincing   ;D

Doctor Jolly wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 1:14pm:

All well and good, except 2013 was the hotest year on record. ...

Yes, it looks as tough whoever wrote the opening post cherry-picked data, then deliberately misinterpreted it to mislead the credulous ignorant, such as Innocent bystander. If the source is so disreputable, it's no wonder Innocent bystander has been so careful to avoid revealing it.

That makes me curious.

Well, that didn't take long. Here's the article, the source of which Innocent bystander was so careful to avoid revealing. It's by Lawrence Solomon, who's charitably described as:
Quote:

... a right-wing hack that writes for the National Post (Canada’s version of Fox News in print).

Solomon runs a secretive right-wing astroturf foundation called Energy Probe, evidently from a coffee shop in Toronto Ontario. Solomon claims to be an environmentalist, but the foundation promotes fossil fuels. It opposes nuclear energy, apparently because nuclear competes with fossil fuels.

Desmog blog has some amusing quotes.

This one's right up there with your usual raving ratbag right-wing sources, Innocent bystander.

How could any neutral observer not come to the inescapable conclusion that you global warming kooks are nuts    :D ;D

Does Desmogblog have any credibility - they have no science qualifications?

lee wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 10:14pm:

Does Desmogblog have any credibility - they have no science qualifications?

What science qualifications would impart credibility in commenting upon another blogger?

Exactly- but you seem to accept them as Gospel.

lee wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 11:42am:

Exactly- but you seem to accept them as Gospel.

I accept them as the only information to hand. You haven't provided any other.

What is the relevance to commenting on a blogger of qualifications in science?

# wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 7:08pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Dec 27th, 2013 at 1:14pm: All well and good, except 2013 was the hotest year on record. ... Yes, it looks as tough whoever wrote the opening post cherry-picked data, then deliberately misinterpreted it to mislead the credulous ignorant, such as Innocent bystander. If the source is so disreputable, it's no wonder Innocent bystander has been so careful to avoid revealing it. That makes me curious.

From your petty Dickensian posts, I'd say it makes you spurious old son.....ya appear to revel in your flowery language.......too much my man!

I dont think there is any other field of human knowledge in which there is such a daft cleavage between what has been scientifically ascertained and the unshakeable beliefs of a large portion of the general public.

Obviously Prof Darriulat doesn't know physics.

lee wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 5:42pm:

Obviously Prof Darriulat doesn't know physics.

Whether he does or not, would it make him a climate scientist? Does knowing how to write make me a poet?

But AGW/CC is supposed to be based on physics.

lee wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 7:48pm:

But AGW/CC is supposed to be based on physics.

Isn't poetry based on writing?

When all else fails, there is always the Appeal to Authority fallacy.

Basically, it's not "who he is" that's important. It's the arguments (or lack of arguments) that he presents.

What arguments does he present? What papers has he published to back these up?

Muso, have you read the link? Or just ignored it as denialist claptrap?

In other news a boatload of AGW hand-wringing scientists on a trip to see melting ice, of the Antarctic summer, now trapped...in the ice... A Chinese ice breaker fails to break through what was believed to be wafer thin ice remnants.  ;D

lee wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 11:55am:

Muso, have you read the link? Or just ignored it as denialist claptrap?

Given Darriulat's reputation on matters climate, you'll need to do more than just tell people to read what he says. We're all too old and gnarly to waste time on what is most probably, as you say, denialist claptrap.

namnugenot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

... A Chinese ice breaker fails to break through what was believed to be wafer thin ice remnants. ...

You can point to credible reports of that belief, can't you?

Perhaps you should consider what I advised lee:
1. Contemplate the differences between climate and weather and;
2. Consider the totality, rather than cherry-picking one part of the planet.

# wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 1:31pm:

namnugenot wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 12:51pm: ... A Chinese ice breaker fails to break through what was believed to be wafer thin ice remnants. ... You can point to credible reports of that belief, can't you? Perhaps you should consider what I advised lee: 1. Contemplate the differences between climate and weather and; 2. Consider the totality, rather than cherry-picking one part of the planet.

You do nothing but cherry pick and put up unsubstantiated claptrap...I only have to exceed your standard...
I consider nothing you say, as rabid, myopic, zealots warrant no consideration.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VXSQAAFDagQ/UhyCar-zWEI/AAAAAAAAMJc/Dk5Nub09zDI/s1600/pissingnthewind.JPG

namnugenot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 5:09pm:

# wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 1:31pm: namnugenot wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 12:51pm: ... A Chinese ice breaker fails to break through what was believed to be wafer thin ice remnants. ... You can point to credible reports of that belief, can't you? ... You do nothing but cherry pick and put up unsubstantiated claptrap...

I'll take that as a 'no'.

# wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 6:27pm:

namnugenot wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 5:09pm: # wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 1:31pm: namnugenot wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 12:51pm: ... A Chinese ice breaker fails to break through what was believed to be wafer thin ice remnants. ... You can point to credible reports of that belief, can't you? ... You do nothing but cherry pick and put up unsubstantiated claptrap... I'll take that as a 'no'.

Far que you know nothing can't.

namnugenot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

# wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 6:27pm: namnugenot wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 5:09pm: # wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 1:31pm: namnugenot wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 12:51pm: ... A Chinese ice breaker fails to break through what was believed to be wafer thin ice remnants. ... You can point to credible reports of that belief, can't you? ... You do nothing but cherry pick and put up unsubstantiated claptrap... I'll take that as a 'no'. Far que you know nothing can't.

Dear nam, when in a pissing contest you aren't actually supposed to soil yourself!

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 7:08pm:

namnugenot wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 7:06pm: # wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 6:27pm: namnugenot wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 5:09pm: # wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 1:31pm: namnugenot wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 12:51pm: ... A Chinese ice breaker fails to break through what was believed to be wafer thin ice remnants. ... You can point to credible reports of that belief, can't you? ... You do nothing but cherry pick and put up unsubstantiated claptrap... I'll take that as a 'no'. Far que you know nothing can't. Dear nam, when in a pissing contest you aren't actually supposed to soil yourself!

Ah the voice of experience....I'll keep it in mind if it ever comes up...

Ah the voice of experience....I'll keep it in mind if it ever comes up...
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