Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this.
.........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know!

What do you think señora?

What has this got to do with how we treat asylum seekers, that they are treated worse somewhere else?

I hear there's a plan afoot for a World Cup in Asylum Seeker Abusing... to be run in conjunction with the Inaugural International Dole Bludger Vilification Trophy.... and the Seniors Ripping-off Games for Politicians....

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:08am:

What has this got to do with how we treat asylum seekers, that they are treated worse somewhere else?

What do you think genius? It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders.

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora?

www.ozpolitic.com

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora?

Little Johnny Smiths Fascist relations    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:08am: What has this got to do with how we treat asylum seekers, that they are treated worse somewhere else? What do you think genius? It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders.

"far better" does not equal "humanely".

www.ozpolitic.com

greg would be one of those students you hate to have in your class, who is forever pointing out some little error you've made. There's always one.

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora?

I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.   

woody2014 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

Little Johnny Smiths Fascist relations    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I've already predicted that as the world grows to0ugher and larger again with the advent of the downturn in industry and prosperity and easy energy - national interests and inclinations will come to the fore again.... especially in Europe.

As for the ROTW.... who could blame them for wanting to come here, even if we are managing to make a Right Stuff-up of it as we coast along on a sea of bullshit and dreams of riches in mining investment...

The only good business left in Australia is politician.... every single, solitary perk totally guaranteed by the very ultra-socialism they all scorn and even despise.... bottomless till to rob over and over again...

I wonder - with these massive Black Holes in finances - if quite a few of them are salting away a few lazy billions overseas...... seriously.... how else could they generate these endless Black Holes?

Very Third World....

Grappler for Il Presidente!  I promise no corruption with an iron hand of righteous justice, and not one single billion dollars will vanish overseas under my benevolent tutelage.... (maybe five or ten, but certainly not just one)... two chickens in every pot for my people....

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:18am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.

Retarded spelling aside, are you talking about Last Second Kevin? He wants all poor brown asylum seekers sent to PNG. Or are you just being a hypocritical tool?

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders.

Going by that justification, you would get away anything because "well it's not as bad as [insert random warlord/nazi here]

If you think Australia treats asylum seekers well then maybe you should have a look at one of the many reports that the UN and amnesty have done into our detention centers:  all of which show them to be a miserable failure that doesn't come close to meeting the obligations Australia has agreed to.

What planet are you from that you think the way we treat asylum seekers is "humane"?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? www.ozpolitic.com

Now since you've crawled out from under your rock peccahead, what bearing has posting this website's name got to do with the thread? Please don't say because it's about Italy because most of you labrat bastards spew enough crap about other countries on here, therefore this thread IS relevant to ozpolitic.com particularly as there are enough Italian decent members here for it to be very relevant.

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:13am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? www.ozpolitic.com Now since you've crawled out from under your rock peccahead, what bearing has posting this website's name got to do with the thread? Please don't say because it's about Italy because most of you labrat bastards spew enough crap about other countries on here, therefore this thread IS relevant to ozpolitic.com particularly as there are enough Italian decent members here for it to be very relevant.

"far better" does not equal "humanely".


http://geekfree.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Fail.jpg


Come back next year, see how you go then.

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:26am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:13am: It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders. Going by that justification, you would get away anything because "well it's not as bad as [insert random warlord/nazi here] If you think Australia treats asylum seekers well then maybe you should have a look at one of the many reports that the UN and amnesty have done into our detention centers:  all of which show them to be a miserable failure that doesn't come close to meeting the obligations Australia has agreed to. What planet are you from that you think the way we treat asylum seekers is "humane"?

I know what country I'm NOT from, that place where they strip people naked in the open air in the middle of a European WINTER and spray them with an ice cold solution, in front of their family and others.

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:26am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:13am: It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders. Going by that justification, you would get away anything because "well it's not as bad as [insert random warlord/nazi here] If you think Australia treats asylum seekers well then maybe you should have a look at one of the many reports that the UN and amnesty have done into our detention centers:  all of which show them to be a miserable failure that doesn't come close to meeting the obligations Australia has agreed to. What planet are you from that you think the way we treat asylum seekers is "humane"? I know what country I'm NOT from, that place where they strip people naked in the open air in the middle of a European WINTER and spray them with an ice cold solution, in front of their family and others.

"far better" does not equal "humanely".

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:33am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:30am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:13am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? www.ozpolitic.com Now since you've crawled out from under your rock peccahead, what bearing has posting this website's name got to do with the thread? Please don't say because it's about Italy because most of you labrat bastards spew enough crap about other countries on here, therefore this thread IS relevant to ozpolitic.com particularly as there are enough Italian decent members here for it to be very relevant. "far better" does not equal "humanely". http://geekfree.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Fail.jpg Come back next year, see how you go then.

Weak.........weasel, very weak.... ;D ;D

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:33am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:30am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:13am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? www.ozpolitic.com Now since you've crawled out from under your rock peccahead, what bearing has posting this website's name got to do with the thread? Please don't say because it's about Italy because most of you labrat bastards spew enough crap about other countries on here, therefore this thread IS relevant to ozpolitic.com particularly as there are enough Italian decent members here for it to be very relevant. "far better" does not equal "humanely". http://geekfree.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Fail.jpg Come back next year, see how you go then. Weak.........weasel, very weak....

I'm not the one who said "far better".

"far better" does not equal "humanely".

Sorry.

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:18am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.    Retarded spelling aside, are you talking about Last Second Kevin? He wants all poor brown asylum seekers sent to PNG. Or are you just being a hypocritical tool?

What do I care what Rudd says or thinks.  Yor obviously one of these automatons who only thinks what one of the major parties tells them to think.  I'm not a simpleton like you mate, I think for myself and here's an earth shattering thought for you. This system we live in is not a democracy just because the political parties tell you it is.  Chew over that idea for a moment but be careful the rusted cogs in yor tiny brain don't seize up.

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

I know what country I'm NOT from, that place where they strip people naked in the open air in the middle of a European WINTER and spray them with an ice cold solution, in front of their family and others.

No.  You are however part of a country (I'm assuming you are Australian) that indefinitely imprisons innocent people and children on a hot crowded rat infested island for daring to use their universal human right to seek asylum. 

You are also part of a country that gives asylum seekers no other options than to either return home to face whatever persecution they fled from, remain in horrible conditions inside immigration detention, or get resettled in a country where half of the women get raped and three quarters get sexually abused.

A Papua New Guinean politician says asylum seekers detained on Manus Island have appeared in a pornographic film with local girls.

The island's outspoken MP, Ronny Knight, says the detention centre is ''out of control'' and he will show the clip to Australian officials.

He published the allegation on Facebook, and it has since been shared widely in the community.

However, the company that manages the centre, G4S, says it has seen no evidence to back his claim and urged Mr Knight to speak to police.

Advertisement The MP used the social network to allege that detainees and young Papuans were filmed while engaged in sexual acts.

''I just viewed a shocking phone video of the XXX-rated type featuring asylum seekers in the camp and young Manus girls working there!'' he wrote.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/manus-island-detainees-in-sex-video-png-mp-claims-20131218-2zlp0.html

Thank f*ck the grownups are in charge

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:37am:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:22am: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:18am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.    Retarded spelling aside, are you talking about Last Second Kevin? He wants all poor brown asylum seekers sent to PNG. Or are you just being a hypocritical tool? What do I care what Rudd says or thinks.  Yor obviously one of these automatons who only thinks what one of the major parties tells them to think.  I'm not a simpleton like you mate, I think for myself and here's an earth shattering thought for you. This system we live in is not a democracy just because the political parties tell you it is.  Chew over that idea for a moment but be careful the rusted cogs in yor tiny brain don't seize up.

Self-recommendation is no recommendation at all fartacus..... :D

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:37am:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:22am: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:18am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.    Retarded spelling aside, are you talking about Last Second Kevin? He wants all poor brown asylum seekers sent to PNG. Or are you just being a hypocritical tool? What do I care what Rudd says or thinks.

Yet you’re the one that said “yor” leader.

So whom did you mean?

I'll post it for you...."yor precious dear leader"

???

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:38am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:34am: I know what country I'm NOT from, that place where they strip people naked in the open air in the middle of a European WINTER and spray them with an ice cold solution, in front of their family and others. No.  You are however part of a country (I'm assuming you are Australian) that indefinitely imprisons innocent people and children on a hot crowded rat infested island for daring to use their universal human right to seek asylum.  You are also part of a country that gives asylum seekers no other options than to either return home to face whatever persecution they fled from, remain in horrible conditions inside immigration detention, or get resettled in a country where half of the women get raped and three quarters get sexually abused.

You mean a country that protects it's borders humanely, something the last government was incapable of doing.

I think you are confusing imprisoning innocent children in rat infested crowded camps with the word humane here Viewpoint.

No confusion here, you are the one who seems to live in cloud cuckoo land, unless of course you have definite proof about the conditions you are harping on about.

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:44am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:38am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:34am: I know what country I'm NOT from, that place where they strip people naked in the open air in the middle of a European WINTER and spray them with an ice cold solution, in front of their family and others. No.  You are however part of a country (I'm assuming you are Australian) that indefinitely imprisons innocent people and children on a hot crowded rat infested island for daring to use their universal human right to seek asylum.  You are also part of a country that gives asylum seekers no other options than to either return home to face whatever persecution they fled from, remain in horrible conditions inside immigration detention, or get resettled in a country where half of the women get raped and three quarters get sexually abused. You mean a country that protects it's borders humanely, something the last government was incapable of doing.

http://gifatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/RRnhhqW.gif


Humane: "Characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion".

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:42am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:37am: FriYAY wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:22am: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:18am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.    Retarded spelling aside, are you talking about Last Second Kevin? He wants all poor brown asylum seekers sent to PNG. Or are you just being a hypocritical tool? What do I care what Rudd says or thinks.   Yet you’re the one that said “yor” leader. So whom did you mean? I'll post it for you...."yor precious dear leader" ???

You got yourself all tied up in knots fool.  Viewpoint's dear leader. Sheeshhhh!!!!!

http://barnabyisright.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/tumblr_lpax8yxyfy1qip14mo1_500.gif

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:57am:

No confusion here, you are the one who seems to live in cloud cuckoo land, unless of course you have definite proof about the conditions you are harping on about.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-27/unhcr-report-on-nauru/5118588

"It singled out the Nauru centre in particular, saying it is rat-infested, cramped and very hot"

"It's not appropriate for families and children to be transferred to Nauru or Papua New Guinea and the suggestions and proposals for transferring unaccompanied children for us is even more deeply concerning," the UNHCR's Richard Towle said."

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/33587/

“The food is edible. But there are a lot of flies in the food. They even found a human tooth in the food.”

"Asylum seekers are detained on Manus Island in crowded accommodations - one dormitory houses 112 detainees"

In the largest compound, Oscar, 500 men receive only a dozen bottles of water per day to share between themselves.

"This amounts to less than 500ml of water per person per day which is  extremely insufficient, especially given the heat and humidity"

You be the judge Viewpoint, is this "humane"?

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:42am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:37am: What do I care what Rudd says or thinks.  Yor obviously one of these automatons who only thinks what one of the major parties tells them to think.  I'm not a simpleton like you mate, I think for myself and here's an earth shattering thought for you. This system we live in is not a democracy just because the political parties tell you it is.  Chew over that idea for a moment but be careful the rusted cogs in yor tiny brain don't seize up. Self-recommendation is no recommendation at all fartacus..... :D

Yor right.  I should have just gone with "Your an idiot" which is patently true and common knowledge. 

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 12:01pm:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:42am: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:37am: FriYAY wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:22am: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:18am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.    Retarded spelling aside, are you talking about Last Second Kevin? He wants all poor brown asylum seekers sent to PNG. Or are you just being a hypocritical tool? What do I care what Rudd says or thinks.   Yet you’re the one that said “yor” leader. So whom did you mean? I'll post it for you...."yor precious dear leader" ??? You got yourself all tied up in knots fool.  Viewpoint's dear leader. Sheeshhhh!!!!!

So you only carre what Abbott does, that's fine. You can remain a hypocritical tool then.

::)

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 12:09pm:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:42am: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:37am: What do I care what Rudd says or thinks.  Yor obviously one of these automatons who only thinks what one of the major parties tells them to think.  I'm not a simpleton like you mate, I think for myself and here's an earth shattering thought for you. This system we live in is not a democracy just because the political parties tell you it is.  Chew over that idea for a moment but be careful the rusted cogs in yor tiny brain don't seize up. Self-recommendation is no recommendation at all fartacus..... :D Yor right.  I should have just gone with "Your an idiot" which is patently true and common knowledge.

It's neither "Yor" nor "Your" genius...........try You're.... ;D ;D. And it is you who's the IDIOT......and quite an uneducated one at that!

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 12:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 12:09pm: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:42am: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:37am: What do I care what Rudd says or thinks.  Yor obviously one of these automatons who only thinks what one of the major parties tells them to think.  I'm not a simpleton like you mate, I think for myself and here's an earth shattering thought for you. This system we live in is not a democracy just because the political parties tell you it is.  Chew over that idea for a moment but be careful the rusted cogs in yor tiny brain don't seize up. Self-recommendation is no recommendation at all fartacus..... :D Yor right.  I should have just gone with "Your an idiot" which is patently true and common knowledge.  It's neither "Yor" nor "Your" genius...........try You're.... ;D ;D. And it is you who's the IDIOT......and quite an uneducated one at that!

Hehehehe, You know you got them when they start correcting spelling. 

Hehehehe you know you're conversing with a moron when they post childish shite!

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:18am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.    Retarded spelling aside...

Yes, friends, FriYay did say this.

Who cares how the wogs treat the illegals ?

I don't want the criminal loser illegals here.
Get rid of them, ship them back ASAP, use them as slaves.

Enquiring mind wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 12:40pm:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:22am: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:18am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.    Retarded spelling aside... Yes, friends, FriYay did say this.

That's it?

You poor useless troll Rambo.

::)

woody2014 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? Little Johnny Smiths Fascist relations    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

not my relations dopey .... My family isn't from lampedusa .. not that i would expect you to know the difference .

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 12:50pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 12:40pm: FriYAY wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:22am: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:18am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.    Retarded spelling aside... Yes, friends, FriYay did say this. That's it? You poor useless troll Rambo. ::)

Good work on the spelling there, FriYay. I'll be reading your posts carefully from now on.

Europe is being invaded.

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:15pm:

Europe is being invaded.

You might want to explain that to viewpoint ... he seems a little ignorant of the facts. He complains because we've had 50 000 asylum seekers in the last 6 yrs, Italy has over 100 000 asylum seekers EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 12:45pm:

Who cares how the wogs treat the illegals ? I don't want the criminal loser illegals here. Get rid of them, ship them back ASAP, use them as slaves.

This is a thread on asylum seekers, not "illegals".

Thanks for trying though.

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:32pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:15pm: Europe is being invaded. You might want to explain that to viewpoint ... he seems a little ignorant of the facts.

Wow!  You're being extremely generous.

You must be getting into the Christmas spirit.

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora?

The Greeks have been known to dump asylum seekers back into the ocean and let them drown. The "progressives" don't bat an eye lid over this. They whinge about how we treat them, even though we clothe, feed, and give them medical assistance.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:41pm:

The Greeks have been known to dump asylum seekers back into the ocean and let them drown. The "progressives" don't bat an eye lid over this. They whinge about how we treat them, even though we clothe, feed, and give them medical assistance.

Same as Viewpoint.  just because other countries have abysmal record when it comes to the treatment of asylum seekers, doesn't excuse our own record.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:41pm:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? The Greeks have been known to dump asylum seekers back into the ocean and let them drown. The "progressives" don't bat an eye lid over this. They whinge about how we treat them, even though we clothe, feed, and give them medical assistance.

As a 'progressive' I didn't realise I had to comment on every topic, in every country. Could you please put that in the rules next time so that people are aware of the rules.

As this is an Aussie forum, I usually limit my comments to things that are relvant to Australia

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:45pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:41pm: The Greeks have been known to dump asylum seekers back into the ocean and let them drown. The "progressives" don't bat an eye lid over this. They whinge about how we treat them, even though we clothe, feed, and give them medical assistance. Same as Viewpoint.  just because other countries have abysmal record when it comes to the treatment of asylum seekers, doesn't excuse our own record.

That's far too complex (and reasonable) for Misty to understand.


I told ya ... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387415048/51#51

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:32pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:15pm: Europe is being invaded. You might want to explain that to viewpoint ... he seems a little ignorant of the facts. He complains because we've had 50 000 asylum seekers in the last 6 yrs, Italy has over 100 000 asylum seekers EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

Yes and we would get 100 000 asylum centrelink seekers a year too if you, rudd and gillard had anything to do with it.

Enquiring mind wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:10pm:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 12:50pm: Enquiring mind wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 12:40pm: FriYAY wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:22am: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:18am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:04am: Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this. .........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know! What do you think señora? I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse.  Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.    Retarded spelling aside... Yes, friends, FriYay did say this. That's it? You poor useless troll Rambo. ::) Good work on the spelling there, FriYay. I'll be reading your posts carefully from now on.

Awww, u gunna av a hole knew trik r u Head Vet Rambo?

Ill jus av to starte kalling u Too Trik Poney.

::) ::)

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:32pm: Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:15pm: Europe is being invaded. You might want to explain that to viewpoint ... he seems a little ignorant of the facts. He complains because we've had 50 000 asylum seekers in the last 6 yrs, Italy has over 100 000 asylum seekers EACH AND EVERY YEAR. Yes and we would get 100 000 asylum centrelink seekers a year too if you, rudd and gillard had anything to do with it.

quick, find a hole, your heads not buried ...

Australia has a cap on asylum seekers dopey .... regardless of how they come here.

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:45pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:41pm: The Greeks have been known to dump asylum seekers back into the ocean and let them drown. The "progressives" don't bat an eye lid over this. They whinge about how we treat them, even though we clothe, feed, and give them medical assistance. Same as Viewpoint.  just because other countries have abysmal record when it comes to the treatment of asylum seekers, doesn't excuse our own record.

What record? They're treated better than most Australians are. What Australians get free clothes, food, and shelter from the government?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:56pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:45pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:41pm: The Greeks have been known to dump asylum seekers back into the ocean and let them drown. The "progressives" don't bat an eye lid over this. They whinge about how we treat them, even though we clothe, feed, and give them medical assistance. Same as Viewpoint.  just because other countries have abysmal record when it comes to the treatment of asylum seekers, doesn't excuse our own record. What record? They're treated better than most Australians are. What Australians get free clothes, food, and shelter from the government?

you could say the same about our prisoners ....  :D :D :D

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:56pm:

What record? They're treated better than most Australians are. What Australians get free clothes, food, and shelter from the government?

reposting before in case you missed it


Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 12:04pm:

viewpoint wrote Today at 11:57am: No confusion here, you are the one who seems to live in cloud cuckoo land, unless of course you have definite proof about the conditions you are harping on about. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-27/unhcr-report-on-nauru/5118588 "It singled out the Nauru centre in particular, saying it is rat-infested, cramped and very hot" "It's not appropriate for families and children to be transferred to Nauru or Papua New Guinea and the suggestions and proposals for transferring unaccompanied children for us is even more deeply concerning," the UNHCR's Richard Towle said." http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/33587/ “The food is edible. But there are a lot of flies in the food. They even found a human tooth in the food.” "Asylum seekers are detained on Manus Island in crowded accommodations - one dormitory houses 112 detainees" In the largest compound, Oscar, 500 men receive only a dozen bottles of water per day to share between themselves. "This amounts to less than 500ml of water per person per day which is  extremely insufficient, especially given the heat and humidity" You be the judge Viewpoint, is this "humane"?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 2:56pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:45pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:41pm: The Greeks have been known to dump asylum seekers back into the ocean and let them drown. The "progressives" don't bat an eye lid over this. They whinge about how we treat them, even though we clothe, feed, and give them medical assistance. Same as Viewpoint.  just because other countries have abysmal record when it comes to the treatment of asylum seekers, doesn't excuse our own record. What record? They're treated better than most Australians are. What Australians get free clothes, food, and shelter from the government?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387415048/47#47


Only Misty    ::)

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 3:01pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:56pm: What record? They're treated better than most Australians are. What Australians get free clothes, food, and shelter from the government? reposting before in case you missed it Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 12:04pm: viewpoint wrote Today at 11:57am: No confusion here, you are the one who seems to live in cloud cuckoo land, unless of course you have definite proof about the conditions you are harping on about. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-27/unhcr-report-on-nauru/5118588 "It singled out the Nauru centre in particular, saying it is rat-infested, cramped and very hot" "It's not appropriate for families and children to be transferred to Nauru or Papua New Guinea and the suggestions and proposals for transferring unaccompanied children for us is even more deeply concerning," the UNHCR's Richard Towle said." http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/33587/ “The food is edible. But there are a lot of flies in the food. They even found a human tooth in the food.” "Asylum seekers are detained on Manus Island in crowded accommodations - one dormitory houses 112 detainees" In the largest compound, Oscar, 500 men receive only a dozen bottles of water per day to share between themselves. "This amounts to less than 500ml of water per person per day which is  extremely insufficient, especially given the heat and humidity" You be the judge Viewpoint, is this "humane"?

Stay the bugger home them.

There, problem solved.

;)

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:17am:

www.ozpolitic.com greg would be one of those students you hate to have in your class, who is forever pointing out some little error you've made. There's always one.

imagine being married to him...luvly dinner luv... but!..you painted the house beaut luv.... but!!!


:P ;D ;D

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 3:01pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:56pm: What record? They're treated better than most Australians are. What Australians get free clothes, food, and shelter from the government? reposting before in case you missed it Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 12:04pm: viewpoint wrote Today at 11:57am: No confusion here, you are the one who seems to live in cloud cuckoo land, unless of course you have definite proof about the conditions you are harping on about. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-27/unhcr-report-on-nauru/5118588 "It singled out the Nauru centre in particular, saying it is rat-infested, cramped and very hot" "It's not appropriate for families and children to be transferred to Nauru or Papua New Guinea and the suggestions and proposals for transferring unaccompanied children for us is even more deeply concerning," the UNHCR's Richard Towle said." http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/33587/ “The food is edible. But there are a lot of flies in the food. They even found a human tooth in the food.” "Asylum seekers are detained on Manus Island in crowded accommodations - one dormitory houses 112 detainees" In the largest compound, Oscar, 500 men receive only a dozen bottles of water per day to share between themselves. "This amounts to less than 500ml of water per person per day which is  extremely insufficient, especially given the heat and humidity" You be the judge Viewpoint, is this "humane"?

the thing is you get this news from the MEDIA..now we all know lefties do not believe the media...


unless of course it suits them???

last I heard Nauru was burnt to the ground not the first time they have burnt down their own living qtrs..its hard to respect people like that.

we have been told over and over again these people come from hell holes..AND YET? ::)

cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

the thing is you get this news from the MEDIA..now we all know lefties do not believe the media.

One of those stories is from the media Cods, with direct quotes from the UN people who assessed the facilities.  The other is direct from Amnesty, who again did the review.  It would be a hard stretch to call Amnesty a media group.

See if you can find me one single report which says what a lovely pleasant place either Manus or Nauru detention centers are.


cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

last I heard Nauru was burnt to the ground not the first time they have burnt down their own living qtrs..its hard to respect people like that.

About 100 people were involved in the riot, not all of them, yet somehow that means they are all arsonists now does it?  I normally wouldn't pick you for being prejudiced Cods.

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

cods wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 4:27pm: the thing is you get this news from the MEDIA..now we all know lefties do not believe the media. One of those stories is from the media Cods, with direct quotes from the UN people who assessed the facilities.  The other is direct from Amnesty, who again did the review.  It would be a hard stretch to call Amnesty a media group. See if you can find me one single report which says what a lovely pleasant place either Manus or Nauru detention centers are. cods wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 4:27pm: last I heard Nauru was burnt to the ground not the first time they have burnt down their own living qtrs..its hard to respect people like that. About 100 people were involved in the riot, not all of them, yet somehow that means they are all arsonists now does it?  I normally wouldn't pick you for being prejudiced Cods.

really you must be the only leftie on here that doesnt PRESUME THAT..

about 100 or ten..that really isnt the point and Nauru is not the first to be burnt to the ground..

the point I make is real Asylum seekers wouldnt do that would they??just people who think they have special rights..
stratus these places are not meant to be the ROYAL HILTON..

just better than what they had with food water clothes medicine..now we know they receive cigarettes.phones.computers.and they dont have to queue up for hours with a cup in their hand either...

no one claims its perfect..but I dont believe its  cruel either.

if you sailed up on a boat to a middle eastern country do you think they would place you in an airconditioned town house???. plus... ::)

I cant see it happening..but its ok I am happy to be proved wrong..

btw I am glad you dont think I am prejudiced...anymore than I think you are.

cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

about 100 or ten..that really isnt the point and Nauru is not the first to be burnt to the ground.

Sorry, but if you believe they are all arsonists or not genuine refugees because of the actions of a few, then that is exactly the point.


cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

the point I make is real Asylum seekers wouldnt do that would they??just people who think they have special rights

They do not have special rights.  They do however (well should) have the right to seek asylum and that includes the right NOT to be punished for how they do it, by boat, with a smuggler etc.  They also have the right to not be arbitrarily detained, which is why the protest started in the first place.  They are people with rights, same as you or me. 


cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

stratus these places are not meant to be the ROYAL HILTON..

Every single report into the detention facilities has said they are not up to scratch.  They are hot, rat infested and crowded, and no place for children.  I have never seen a positive review of their facilities by anyone.


cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

just better than what they had with food water clothes medicine..now we know they receive cigarettes.phones.computers.and they dont have to queue up for hours with a cup in their hand either

They get food they have to line up for hours to get.  A recent report said they had 500ml of water a day, which is nuts considering the climate.  Cigarettes?  well i don't agree that should be necessary.  They have very minimal access to any technology.


cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

I cant see it happening..but its ok I am happy to be proved wrong.

Have a read here Cods

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/33587/
“The food is edible. But there are a lot of flies in the food. They even found a human tooth in the food.”

"Asylum seekers are detained on Manus Island in crowded accommodations - one dormitory houses 112 detainees"

In the largest compound, Oscar, 500 men receive only a dozen bottles of water per day to share between themselves.

"This amounts to less than 500ml of water per person per day which is  extremely insufficient, especially given the heat and humidity"

There is mroe in the link, click it and give it a read

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 3:01pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:56pm: What record? They're treated better than most Australians are. What Australians get free clothes, food, and shelter from the government? reposting before in case you missed it Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 12:04pm: viewpoint wrote Today at 11:57am: No confusion here, you are the one who seems to live in cloud cuckoo land, unless of course you have definite proof about the conditions you are harping on about. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-27/unhcr-report-on-nauru/5118588 "It singled out the Nauru centre in particular, saying it is rat-infested, cramped and very hot" "It's not appropriate for families and children to be transferred to Nauru or Papua New Guinea and the suggestions and proposals for transferring unaccompanied children for us is even more deeply concerning," the UNHCR's Richard Towle said." http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/33587/ “The food is edible. But there are a lot of flies in the food. They even found a human tooth in the food.” "Asylum seekers are detained on Manus Island in crowded accommodations - one dormitory houses 112 detainees" In the largest compound, Oscar, 500 men receive only a dozen bottles of water per day to share between themselves. "This amounts to less than 500ml of water per person per day which is  extremely insufficient, especially given the heat and humidity" You be the judge Viewpoint, is this "humane"?

Dubious sources. Amnesty International and the UN eh? Let's ask Stalin what he thought of capitalism.  ::)

Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 3:02pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:56pm: Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:45pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 2:41pm: The Greeks have been known to dump asylum seekers back into the ocean and let them drown. The "progressives" don't bat an eye lid over this. They whinge about how we treat them, even though we clothe, feed, and give them medical assistance. Same as Viewpoint.  just because other countries have abysmal record when it comes to the treatment of asylum seekers, doesn't excuse our own record. What record? They're treated better than most Australians are. What Australians get free clothes, food, and shelter from the government? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387415048/47#47 Only Misty    ::)

So do you have an answer?
This one will require some research,Peccy, and not just posting dumb pics.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

ubious sources. Amnesty International and the UN eh? Let's ask Stalin what he thought of capitalism

Find me some that conflict it then.  I'll wait. 


Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government?

This does NOT make it OK to treat people.  ANYONE this way.  if Australians are being treated that way then they shouldn't be either

Do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions I have described?

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:02pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: ubious sources. Amnesty International and the UN eh? Let's ask Stalin what he thought of capitalism Find me some that conflict it then.  I'll wait.  Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government? This does NOT make it OK to treat people.  ANYONE this way.  if Australians are being treated that way then they shouldn't be either Do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions I have described?

I'll take that as there are no Australians receiving free living essentials from the government.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government?

Prisoners.

Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:13pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government? Prisoners. Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described?

Prisoners, lol. okay.  ::)

I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:13pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government? Prisoners. Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described? Prisoners, lol. okay.  ::) I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda.

You only believe what you want to believe: prisoners don't receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government; Australia treats asylum seekers humanely; and, Santa Claus will be coming down your chimney in a few days time.

Only Misty    ::)

A fair dinkum idiot.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:13pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government? Prisoners. Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described? Prisoners, lol. okay.  ::) I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda. You only believe what you want to believe: prisoners don't receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government; Australia treats asylum seekers humanely; and, Santa Claus will be coming down your chimney in a few days time. Only Misty    ::) A fair dinkum idiot.

Oh I know prisoners receive it all from the tax payer, I just thought it was a stupid example.

I wonder how much of Andrew Bolt you take seriously? Probably none. Why should I take some far-leftist political organisations seriously?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:21pm:

I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda.

You really are bad at arguing points you know that? 



OK, lets say they are indeed biased nasty lefty sources, where are yours?  what are you basing your thoughts on this subject on other than your blatant hatred for refugees?

I can't wait to see you argue that these photographs are biased now.  Would you be happy if your kid (if you have any, I dunno) was in thsi condition?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2013/dec/06/nauru-gallery

too left for you? how about the Sydney Morning Herald?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/amnesty-international-report-accuses-manus-island-detention-centre-of-humiliating-asylum-seekers-20131211-2z6ft.html

Christ, even MURDOCH papers are reporting on this.

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/conditions-at-nauru-horrendous-senator/story-e6frfku9-1226786445907

here is a direct link from the report from Amnesty, 131 pages of detailed information with sources about the detention facilities.

http://www.amnesty.org.au/images/uploads/about/Amnesty_International_Manus_Island_report.pdf

Now cards on the table.  Prove you aren't just a hater.  Prove you make up your mind with something other than prejudice

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:33pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:21pm: I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda. You really are bad at arguing points you know that?

Probably the worst of all members on this forum.

If he's not answering questions with questions, he's disputing the validity of evidence.

A true buffoon.

Actually, his sock - Postmodern Trendoid - is even worse.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:28pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:13pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government? Prisoners. Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described? Prisoners, lol. okay.  ::) I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda. You only believe what you want to believe: prisoners don't receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government; Australia treats asylum seekers humanely; and, Santa Claus will be coming down your chimney in a few days time. Only Misty    ::) A fair dinkum idiot. I just thought.

No, you didn't.

You never do.

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:33pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:21pm: I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda. You really are bad at arguing points you know that?  OK, lets say they are indeed biased nasty lefty sources, where are yours?  what are you basing your thoughts on this subject on other than your blatant hatred for refugees? I can't wait to see you argue that these photographs are biased now.  Would you be happy if your kid (if you have any, I dunno) was in thsi condition? http://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2013/dec/06/nauru-gallery too left for you? how about the Sydney Morning Herald? http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/amnesty-international-report-accuses-manus-island-detention-centre-of-humiliating-asylum-seekers-20131211-2z6ft.html Christ, even MURDOCH papers are reporting on this. http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/conditions-at-nauru-horrendous-senator/story-e6frfku9-1226786445907 here is a direct link from the report from Amnesty, 131 pages of detailed information with sources about the detention facilities. http://www.amnesty.org.au/images/uploads/about/Amnesty_International_Manus_Island_report.pdf Now cards on the table.  Prove you aren't just a hater.  Prove you make up your mind with something other than prejudice

Again, you're just posting political propaganda. I read it all with skepticism. I am not a hater. I am more indifferent. I care for those close to me, not people who live 10,000 kms away. "Progressives" live in an inverted world. You sneer at your own people but bend over backward for foreigners. Take Peccy, for example. He rants on about bogans and other Australians, but never speaks ill of foreigners, even though they come from more conservative backgrounds than the people here.

If you want to play international socialism and save the world, so be it. But do it with your own time and money and stop using the tax payer as your own personal bank account.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:33pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:21pm: I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda. You really are bad at arguing points you know that?  Probably the worst of all members on this forum. If he's not answering questions with questions, he's disputing the validity of evidence. A true buffoon. Actually, his sock - Postmodern Trendoid - is even worse.

Peccy, the intellectual midget has three angles of debate:

1. Yell "they're not illegal".
2. Posting statistics on sodomy.
3. Posting pics.

Sad. Especially considering he has some sort of law degree.

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:02pm:

Do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions I have described?

If they're brown, and come from 10,000 kms away, the answer from Misty is a resounding "yes".

Moreover, he actually "thinks" there's nothing wrong with that.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1482926_228008600705626_408610713_n.jpg

*

Is anyone surprised that Julie Bishop is a bare faced liar?
But things are much better now one term tony has made it easier to adopt overseas kids after their parents have been tortured raped and murdered. Its much safer than getting on boats to escape for their lives.
One term tony is all heart  ;D

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:04pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:02pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: ubious sources. Amnesty International and the UN eh? Let's ask Stalin what he thought of capitalism Find me some that conflict it then.  I'll wait.  Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government? This does NOT make it OK to treat people.  ANYONE this way.  if Australians are being treated that way then they shouldn't be either Do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions I have described? I'll take that as there are no Australians receiving free living essentials from the government.

Essentials are provided by the Red Cross. ....

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:08am: What has this got to do with how we treat asylum seekers, that they are treated worse somewhere else? What do you think genius? It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders.

What is it with right wing posters liking to constantly incorrectly infer all the time?  Italians hosing down asylum seekers doesn't mean we are okay to keep people in conditions that lead to S
Suicide. You truly want a race to the bottom.

Hey MM, how about you stop scurrying under rocks and answer a bloody question once in a blue moon.

I thought I made it clear, but I'll make it clearer just in case you missed my question.

WHAT ARE YOU BASING YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT CONDITIONS ON DETENTION FACILITIES ON

Aussie wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 6:50pm:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1482926_228008600705626_408610713_n.jpg

Well that was a nice hour she had gullible people thinking detention centers were OK .  Yup, not answering questions, didn't meet any children, which means if she did meet any asylum seekers it was the single men's group.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/julie-bishop-under-fire-for-praising-conditions-on-nauru-20131219-2zo5g.html

Also, to compare it to a miners camp is a joke.  Firstly, miners have a choice, and are payed very good salaries, secondly, find me an Australian mining camp where they sleep in freaking tents.  What a joke

Europe is closing down, the next Labor party in line with its history of punitive policies will withdraw from its UNHCR obligations. 

People worldwide are getting sick of forced immigration.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:15am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:13am: Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:08am: What has this got to do with how we treat asylum seekers, that they are treated worse somewhere else? What do you think genius? It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders. "far better" does not equal "humanely".

Nor does it mean we treat them inhumanely.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:28pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:13pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government? Prisoners. Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described? Prisoners, lol. okay.  ::) I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda. You only believe what you want to believe: prisoners don't receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government; Australia treats asylum seekers humanely; and, Santa Claus will be coming down your chimney in a few days time. Only Misty    ::) A fair dinkum idiot. Oh I know prisoners receive it all from the tax payer, I just thought it was a stupid example. I wonder how much of Andrew Bolt you take seriously? Probably none. Why should I take some far-leftist political organisations seriously?

There is a huge difference between an extreme rightwing newspaper columnist with a history of not getting his facts right and being too lazy to check his sources, and a reputable worldwide human rights organisation.

You doubt Amensty International simply because you don't like what they report. If they said all was hunky dory on Manus and Nauru you would be singing their praises.

Right?

Interesting to note the President of Italy and the Mayor of Lampedusa have both condemned the treatment of asylum seekers on the island.

Yet Onya Tone says nothing about Manus or Nauru.

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:39am:

nteresting to note the President of Italy and the Mayor of Lampedusa have both condemned the treatment of asylum seekers on the island. Yet Onya Tone says nothing about Manus or Nauru.

so what TREATMENT do you want condemned????????????..

just HOW do we treat them???


I take it we FORCE them to come here in the first place..


Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:36am:

There is a huge difference between an extreme rightwing newspaper columnist with a history of not getting his facts right and being too lazy to check his sources, and a reputable worldwide human rights organisation. You doubt Amensty International simply because you don't like what they report. If they said all was hunky dory on Manus and Nauru you would be singing their praises.

Amnesty also condemns our treatment of aborigines.. ::) ::)

so I take it we also force them to live in outback communities as did their ancestors.?

I am just interested in what you think we should be doing.??

as far as I know the conditions are far better than anything on a Turkish border..

as far as I know

LEFTIES HAVE HAD NO COMPLAINTS FOR 6 LOOOOOG YEARS...


::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

did Bob Carr visit Nauru???????????????????

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 4:27am:

Nor does it mean we treat them inhumanely.

Oh do keep up.


cods wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48am:

so what TREATMENT do you want condemned?

Come now Cods, I have made it very clear that the conditions in both detention centers are reprehensible, and most importantly of all, no place for children.  I know you have mentioned you have grand kids, would you be happy if they were in this situation?


cods wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48am:

just HOW do we treat them?

Read the amnesty report, look at the comments from the UN representatives which have already been posted.


cods wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48am:

I take it we FORCE them to come here in the first place.

We do not force them to come here no.  However we do force them to stay in a hot, rat infested camp indefinitely.


cods wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48am:

as far as I know the conditions are far better than anything on a Turkish border.

Again, another country having a poor record of treating refugees is no excuse for our own. 

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 4:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:15am: viewpoint wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:13am: Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 11:08am: What has this got to do with how we treat asylum seekers, that they are treated worse somewhere else? What do you think genius? It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders. "far better" does not equal "humanely". Nor does it mean we treat them inhumanely.

"The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus face indefinite detention in unsafe and inhumane conditions."

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/11/26/unhcr-slams-aust-asylum-seeker-treatment

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:36am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:28pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:13pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government? Prisoners. Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described? Prisoners, lol. okay.  ::) I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda. You only believe what you want to believe: prisoners don't receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government; Australia treats asylum seekers humanely; and, Santa Claus will be coming down your chimney in a few days time. Only Misty    ::) A fair dinkum idiot. Oh I know prisoners receive it all from the tax payer, I just thought it was a stupid example. I wonder how much of Andrew Bolt you take seriously? Probably none. Why should I take some far-leftist political organisations seriously? There is a huge difference between an extreme rightwing newspaper columnist with a history of not getting his facts right and being too lazy to check his sources, and a reputable worldwide human rights organisation. You doubt Amensty International simply because you don't like what they report. If they said all was hunky dory on Manus and Nauru you would be singing their praises. Right?

Just as I thought:

Murdoch media [or insert other 'nasty' media here] = biased, untruthful.
Left-wing organisations = unadulterated truth.


Enjoy your naivety.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:30am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 5:36am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:28pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:13pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm: Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government? Prisoners. Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described? Prisoners, lol. okay.  ::) I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda. You only believe what you want to believe: prisoners don't receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government; Australia treats asylum seekers humanely; and, Santa Claus will be coming down your chimney in a few days time. Only Misty    ::) A fair dinkum idiot. Oh I know prisoners receive it all from the tax payer, I just thought it was a stupid example. I wonder how much of Andrew Bolt you take seriously? Probably none. Why should I take some far-leftist political organisations seriously? There is a huge difference between an extreme rightwing newspaper columnist with a history of not getting his facts right and being too lazy to check his sources, and a reputable worldwide human rights organisation. You doubt Amensty International simply because you don't like what they report. If they said all was hunky dory on Manus and Nauru you would be singing their praises. Right? Just as I thought:

That'll be the day.

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 10:38pm:

Hey MM, how about you stop scurrying under rocks and answer a bloody question once in a blue moon. I thought I made it clear, but I'll make it clearer just in case you missed my question. WHAT ARE YOU BASING YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT CONDITIONS ON DETENTION FACILITIES ON

They are being fed, clothed, and given shelter and medical assistance at the expense of the tax payer, are they not? Unless there's been some major change in recent days and it's all paid by charity?

"UNHCR slams Australia asylum seeker treatment"

"The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus face indefinite detention in unsafe and inhumane conditions.

"In particular, they constitute mandatory detention that is not compatible with international law," he says in a statement."

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/11/26/unhcr-slams-aust-asylum-seeker-treatment

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:34am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 10:38pm: Hey MM, how about you stop scurrying under rocks and answer a bloody question once in a blue moon. I thought I made it clear, but I'll make it clearer just in case you missed my question. WHAT ARE YOU BASING YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT CONDITIONS ON DETENTION FACILITIES ON They are being fed, clothed, and given shelter and medical assistance at the expense of the tax payer, are they not? Unless there's been some major change in recent days and it's all paid by charity?

No no no, you don't get away with an opinion.  my question which you have got wrong somehow was

WHAT ARE YOU BASING YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT CONDITIONS ON DETENTION FACILITIES ON[/quote]

Where do you get your information?  or are you going to keep disagreeing with all of the following news sources like some kind of flat earth believer, because you are ignoring the reports that I have linked to you from:

the Sydney Morning herald
the Guardian
the ABC
News Ltd. media
the Amnesty report.

All of which say conditions are terrible and unsuitable.  Are they all wrong? 

Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. The News ltd article was a snippet from a Greens senator. Do you believe everything Andrew Bolt, Piers Ackerman, Miranda Divine, Geert Wilders, and the like write?

Hey MM, another thing.  Do you think these conditions sound acceptable?


Quote:

On arrival at camps people had their clothing taken away, often to be replaced by a uniform . Men would wear a vest, trousers, hat and coat. Women would be supplied a smock type dress.Clothes would be changed approximately every six weeks.

Quote:

people in the camp received meals three times a day: morning, noon, and evening.

because to me that sounds like free food and clothing

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. The News ltd article was a snippet from a Greens senator. Do you believe everything Andrew Bolt, Piers Ackerman, Miranda Divine, Geert Wilders, and the like write?

Right, so if you don't believe them (because grr, left wing bias)  hang on, wait a tic....


Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:30am:

Murdoch media [or insert other 'nasty' media here] = biased, untruthful. Left-wing organisations = unadulterated truth.

you are such a hypocrite lol, it's like you aren't even trying anymore.  Anyway, if you don't believe the sources (oh, including the PHOTOS link I put up) about how bad conditions are then how about you share what you are basing your opinion on?  Because you have given absolutely nothing to support your opinion so far.

Nasty Kevin Rudd sending all the poor brown people to PNG, what a racist arsehole. >:(

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda.

Incorrect.

You deny the reports because you're an ignorant bigot.

Be a man for once in your life and just admit the truth.

Pathetic.

Stratos wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 8:45am: Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. The News ltd article was a snippet from a Greens senator. Do you believe everything Andrew Bolt, Piers Ackerman, Miranda Divine, Geert Wilders, and the like write? Right, so if you don't believe them (because grr, left wing bias)  hang on, wait a tic.... Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 8:30am: Murdoch media [or insert other 'nasty' media here] = biased, untruthful. Left-wing organisations = unadulterated truth. you are such a hypocrite lol, it's like you aren't even trying anymore.  Anyway, if you don't believe the sources (oh, including the PHOTOS link I put up) about how bad conditions are then how about you share what you are basing your opinion on?  Because you have given absolutely nothing to support your opinion so far.

I looked at the photos and couldn't see anything wrong. A bit of dirt  ::) - the kids looked like they were having fun. I used to play in the dirt a lot when I was a kid.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:05am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 8:45am: Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. Incorrect. You deny the reports because you're an ignorant bigot. Be a man for once in your life and just admit the truth. Pathetic.

Peccy brings out the big guns - BIGOT!!!
What an intellectual tour de force you are!

You bigots are intolerant of my position. You must all be Nazis!

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

I looked at the photos and couldn't see anything wrong. A bit of dirt   - the kids looked like they were having fun. I used to play in the dirt a lot when I was a kid.

Pictured: kids having fun

http://images.smh.com.au/2013/06/15/4493363/Art-20by-20Children-20in-20Detention-20130615191305483100-496x620.jpg

Look! they even have water slides!

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/07/23/1226684/022288-manus-island.jpg

Still no info as to where you are basing your opinion on MM.  You should share.  heaven forbid you make a conclusion based on bias instead of information.  That would be a silly thing to do now wouldn't it?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:10am:

You bigots are intolerant of my position. You must all be Nazis!

Can you undress and step in this shower please?   Do you have any gold teeth?

Our soldiers suffer worse living conditions while fighting the fake reffos battles for them.

Stratos wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:17am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:06am: I looked at the photos and couldn't see anything wrong. A bit of dirt   - the kids looked like they were having fun. I used to play in the dirt a lot when I was a kid. Pictured: kids having fun http://images.smh.com.au/2013/06/15/4493363/Art-20by-20Children-20in-20Detention-20130615191305483100-496x620.jpg Look! they even have water slides! http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/07/23/1226684/022288-manus-island.jpg Still no info as to where you are basing your opinion on MM.  You should share.  heaven forbid you make a conclusion based on bias instead of information.  That would be a silly thing to do now wouldn't it?

Don’t like the treatment, stay home. Don’t pay people that deal in the trade of human flesh and misery to take you on a fruitless journey.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:05am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 8:45am: Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. Incorrect. You deny the reports because you're an ignorant bigot. Be a man for once in your life and just admit the truth. Pathetic. Peccy brings out the big guns - BIGOT!!! What an intellectual tour de force you are!

No guns.  Just the truth.

You're an ignorant bigot.

Simple.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 10:13am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:07am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:05am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 8:45am: Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. Incorrect. You deny the reports because you're an ignorant bigot. Be a man for once in your life and just admit the truth. Pathetic. Peccy brings out the big guns - BIGOT!!! What an intellectual tour de force you are! No guns.  Just the truth. You're an ignorant bigot. Simple.

And you're a bigot for being intolerant of my position. Perhaps you need to think beyond slogans.

Stratos wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:17am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:06am: I looked at the photos and couldn't see anything wrong. A bit of dirt   - the kids looked like they were having fun. I used to play in the dirt a lot when I was a kid. Pictured: kids having fun http://images.smh.com.au/2013/06/15/4493363/Art-20by-20Children-20in-20Detention-20130615191305483100-496x620.jpg Look! they even have water slides! http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/07/23/1226684/022288-manus-island.jpg Still no info as to where you are basing your opinion on MM.  You should share.  heaven forbid you make a conclusion based on bias instead of information.  That would be a silly thing to do now wouldn't it?

I used to play in the rain too when I was a kid. Great fun!

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 10:13am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:07am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:05am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 8:45am: Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. Incorrect. You deny the reports because you're an ignorant bigot. Be a man for once in your life and just admit the truth. Pathetic. Peccy brings out the big guns - BIGOT!!! What an intellectual tour de force you are! No guns.  Just the truth. You're an ignorant bigot. Simple. And you're a bigot for being intolerant of my position. Perhaps you need to think beyond slogans.

Perhaps you need to think.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:41am:

"UNHCR slams Australia asylum seeker treatment" "The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus face indefinite detention in unsafe and inhumane conditions. "In particular, they constitute mandatory detention that is not compatible with international law," he says in a statement." http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/11/26/unhcr-slams-aust-asylum-seeker-treatment

I don't recall voting for the UNHCR during the last election.
And how much money are they pouring in to house country shoppers in a manner they can become easily accustomed to, or how many armoured divisions do they provide in the war against terrorism.
The UNHCR is an totally irrelevant organisation.

Oh look! another person who is ignoring blatant evidence that these people are being mistreated while providing no opposing evidence?

You guys are a dime a dozen today.

Hey MM where did you go? I was having fun

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 1:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 8:41am: "UNHCR slams Australia asylum seeker treatment" "The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus face indefinite detention in unsafe and inhumane conditions. "In particular, they constitute mandatory detention that is not compatible with international law," he says in a statement." http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/11/26/unhcr-slams-aust-asylum-seeker-treatment I don't recall voting for the UNHCR during the last election. And how much money are they pouring in to house country shoppers in a manner they can become easily accustomed to, or how many armoured divisions do they provide in the war against terrorism. The UNHCR is an totally irrelevant organisation.

http://www.crushable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Ricky-Gervais-Hysterical-Laughter.gif


They're coming out of the woodwork today.

"irrelevant"   ;D

How about that awesome free medical treatment you were talking about before!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/19/revealed-doctors-outrage-over-unsafe-refugee-patients

Stratos wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:32pm:

How about that awesome free medical treatment you were talking about before! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/19/revealed-doctors-outrage-over-unsafe-refugee-patients

Disgusting.

"The forensic report, written by 15 doctors and obtained by Guardian Australia, is the most comprehensive document yet on the failings of medical procedure inside detention centres and is a damning indictment of the Australian government’s care for refugees."

"The report documents “numerous unsafe practices and gross departures from generally accepted medical standards which have posed significant risk to patients and caused considerable harm”.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 3:16pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 2:32pm: How about that awesome free medical treatment you were talking about before! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/19/revealed-doctors-outrage-over-unsafe-refugee-patients Disgusting. "The forensic report, written by 15 doctors and obtained by Guardian Australia, is the most comprehensive document yet on the failings of medical procedure inside detention centres and is a damning indictment of the Australian government’s care for refugees." "The report documents “numerous unsafe practices and gross departures from generally accepted medical standards which have posed significant risk to patients and caused considerable harm”.

Are you surprised? Mr Rudd wants all poor brown people to rot in PNG! Even gay ones.

FriYAY wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 3:19pm:

Are you surprised? Mr Rudd wants all poor brown people to rot in PNG! Even gay ones.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OtlEq3X8bnw/Ugq7IG3hOwI/AAAAAAAAH-8/y4HRMD0GJrk/s1600/FederalElection2013VoteKonyRubbott.jpg

One and the same in this regard.  Both reprehensible and I hope they will both be held responsible for their treatment of asylum seekers.

Stratos wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 3:19pm: Are you surprised? Mr Rudd wants all poor brown people to rot in PNG! Even gay ones. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OtlEq3X8bnw/Ugq7IG3hOwI/AAAAAAAAH-8/y4HRMD0GJrk/s1600/FederalElection2013VoteKonyRubbott.jpg One and the same in this regard.  Both reprehensible and I hope they will both be held responsible for their treatment of asylum seekers.

Yep.

Both should hang their heads in shame.

The only person getting mistreated is the Australian tax payer.

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 3:57pm:

The only person getting mistreated is the Australian tax payer.

Keep dreamin', bozo.

Stratos wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:32pm:

How about that awesome free medical treatment you were talking about before! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/19/revealed-doctors-outrage-over-unsafe-refugee-patients

Cry me a river. Australians can line up for years for medical treatment.

That’s right, Mistie. 50,000 refugees in 6 years. Just think of how many trips to the doctor they’ve had, it’s unbelievable.

Have you visited a GP lately? You have to ring up, make an appointment and wait to be seen, it’s ridiculous.

I blame the progressives. They’re ruined this country.

I think you should write your PhD on this. You’re guaranteed an A+, you know.

They are stopping, they are stopping, and they will be stopped.

Or starting, I forget which.

Typical.

'Asylum seekers' - aintchasickofem? I know I am.


They have contributed bugger all to their own country, they have contributed bugger all to this country - yet people are bellyaching about


• asylum seekers are examined while exhausted, dehydrated and filthy, their clothing “soiled with urine and faeces” because there are no toilets on the boats

• patients are “begging for treatment”

• asylum seekers must queue for up to three hours for medication. Some have to queue four times a day

• antenatal care is unsafe, inadequate and does not comply with Australian standards; there is an ultrasound machine on the island but rarely anyone who knows how to use it

• there is a high risk of depression among children and no effective system for identifying children at risk

• basic medical stocks are low; drugs requested by doctors are not provided

• long delays in transferring patients to mainland hospitals are leading to “risks of life-threatening deterioration”.





Get the bugger outa here.

Talk about starting your life in the new country with an entitlement mentality.

That’s right, old boy. These people are too cheap to get a cabin with an attached bathroom. How common they all are. Fancy dressing like that to pass through customs.

They never wear the appropriate deck attire, and they most certainly don’t dress for dinner.

I have no idea why they let them out of Steerage, it’s appalling.

Typical.

Thank heavens the old boys are back in charge.

yes Soren.  We should let them starve and die of disease.  That'll teach them

Well, it's true apparently.  Julie Bishop didn't actually see any asylum seekers or their accommodation before passing them off as better than mining camps. You know it must be bad when the kings of the deterrence strategy are shying away from how bad it is by trying to mislead the public.

Stratos wrote on Dec 21^st, 2013 at 12:15am:

yes Soren.  We should let them starve and die of disease.  That'll teach them

Did you make them starve? Did you make them diseased?

No.

Do they have ANY responsibility?? Or is it all 'they bugger up, we fix'?
Sounds eerily like white man's burden.

When will the tinted races grow up?? When will they be judged on equal terms with whitey?

Colonialism ended too soon. They don't know how to live responsible, cohesive, purposeful lives. It's all about bakshsish gimme, 60 years after independence.

Very undignified.i

Clearly they are being pampered.

We can't have them lining up for three hours per meal in the sun, that creates a sense of entitlement

We can't have them having  500ml of water a day, that'll spoil them

We can't give them proper medical treatment, then they'll just be treated like everyone else.

Soren wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 8:32pm:

Did you make them starve? Did you make them diseased?No.

how someone can claim to be educated and yet make a comment like that is beyond me ....  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Soren wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 8:32pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 21st, 2013 at 12:15am: yes Soren.  We should let them starve and die of disease.  That'll teach them Did you make them starve? Did you make them diseased? No. Do they have ANY responsibility?? Or is it all 'they buggers up, we fix'? Sounds eerily like white man's burden. When will the tinted races grow up?? When will they be judged on equal terms with whitey? Colonialism ended too soon. They don't know how to live responsible, cohesive, purposeful lives. It's all about bakshsish gimme, 60 years after independence. Very undignified.

It's exactly "white man's burden". The "progressives" don't realise how imperialist they sound.

John Smith wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:16pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 8:32pm: Did you make them starve? Did you make them diseased?No. how someone can claim to be educated and yet make a comment like that is beyond me ....  ::) ::) ::) ::)

No big deal. I can't think of a single thing that isn't beyond you.

John Smith wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:16pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 29th, 2013 at 8:32pm: Did you make them starve? Did you make them diseased?No. how someone can claim to be educated and yet make a comment like that is beyond me ....  ::) ::) ::) ::)

What is NOT beyond you?

you had to go twice ???

whats the matter? You found your first attempt just as lame as I did?  ;D ;D ;D

Soren Quote:

' 'Asylum seekers' - aintchasickofem? I know I am.


They have contributed bugger all to their own country, they have contributed bugger all to this country - yet people are bellyaching about


• asylum seekers are examined while exhausted, dehydrated and filthy, their clothing “soiled with urine and faeces” because there are no toilets on the boats

• patients are “begging for treatment”

• asylum seekers must queue for up to three hours for medication. Some have to queue four times a day

• antenatal care is unsafe, inadequate and does not comply with Australian standards; there is an ultrasound machine on the island but rarely anyone who knows how to use it

• there is a high risk of depression among children and no effective system for identifying children at risk

• basic medical stocks are low; drugs requested by doctors are not provided

• long delays in transferring patients to mainland hospitals are leading to “risks of life-threatening deterioration”.





Get the bugger outa here.

Talk about starting your life in the new country with an entitlement mentality.'  end quote




BRILLIANT  !


TOP MARKS  !!!


Nominated for Post of the Month


Nice to hear some common sense  for a change


Well said , Soren !



As to delousing illegals with highly contagious skin infections --------------- Good on you Italy !


And for those who want to whinge about it and play bleeding hearts ----- put half a dozen of them up at your place and fix their diseases on your own dime in your own time ------------ and keep them away from civilized society

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PZ547 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:18pm:

Soren Quote: ' 'Asylum seekers' - aintchasickofem? I know I am. They have contributed bugger all to their own country, they have contributed bugger all to this country - yet people are bellyaching about • asylum seekers are examined while exhausted, dehydrated and filthy, their clothing “soiled with urine and faeces” because there are no toilets on the boats • patients are “begging for treatment” • asylum seekers must queue for up to three hours for medication. Some have to queue four times a day • antenatal care is unsafe, inadequate and does not comply with Australian standards; there is an ultrasound machine on the island but rarely anyone who knows how to use it • there is a high risk of depression among children and no effective system for identifying children at risk • basic medical stocks are low; drugs requested by doctors are not provided • long delays in transferring patients to mainland hospitals are leading to “risks of life-threatening deterioration”. Get the bugger outa here. Talk about starting your life in the new country with an entitlement mentality.'  end quote BRILLIANT  ! TOP MARKS  !!! Nominated for Post of the Month Nice to hear some common sense  for a change Well said , Soren ! As to delousing illegals with highly contagious skin infections --------------- Good on you Italy ! And for those who want to whinge about it and play bleeding hearts ----- put half a dozen of them up at your place and fix their diseases on your own dime in your own time ------------ and keep them away from civilized society

Thank you.
I am glad plain speaking common sense still resonates here and there.