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Message started by Herbert on Dec 16th, 2013 at 9:31am

Title: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Herbert on Dec 16th, 2013 at 9:31am

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Eight more dead as Bangladesh riots continue
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Molla is the first person to be executed over crimes committed during Bangladesh's war of independence against Pakistan.

The 65-year-old was convicted of being a leader of a pro-Pakistan militia in 1971 that killed some of Bangladesh's top professors, doctors, writers and journalists.

He was also convicted of rape and mass murder, including the killing of more than 350 unarmed civilians.

Molla was one of five Islamists and other politicians sentenced to death by the International Crimes Tribunal, which the opposition says is aimed at eradicating its leaders.


Question: When did the International Crimes Tribunal start issuing the Death Sentence?

It's news to me.


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'He was also convicted of rape ... '


What is it with Muslims that they can't keep it in their pants?

link


Title: Re: The Religion of Peace kicks up a storm ...
Post by gandalf on Dec 16th, 2013 at 11:50am
Three posts of personal attacks and/or trolling deleted.

There is nothing wrong with this topic, though the title could be a little more constructive.

edit: title changed from "The Religion of Peace kicks up a storm ..."

to "Riots in Bangladesh"

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Herbert on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:06pm
It's all yours, gandalf ~ I'll leave the thread to you.

Resorting to censorship has always been a popular refuge for intellectual cowards who are finding the ice beneath their feet becoming perilously thin as the debates continue.

 

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by gandalf on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:15pm
It was not intended as censorship, merely to make the topic more meaningful. I made a point of mentioning the original title in the interests of transparency.

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Herbert on Dec 16th, 2013 at 2:53pm
The more fingerprints you leave all over the thread from your fiddling, diddling, editting, and rearranging of the deckchairs ~ the more likely is this thread going to sink beneath the waves.

That's my experience of 8 years on forum sites.

Sticky fingers that keep looking for something to 'moderate' soon leads to tears before bedtime when the best of the posters simply can't be bothered any more.

The choice is yours.







   

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Hot Breath on Dec 16th, 2013 at 2:55pm
mod edit: HB this stock-standard post of yours will no longer be tolerated, so you may as well stop posting it.

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by ian on Dec 16th, 2013 at 2:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:15pm:
It was not intended as censorship, merely to make the topic more meaningful. I made a point of mentioning the original title in the interests of transparency.

Yeah well it is censorship and an abuse of your power.

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by gandalf on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:07pm

ian wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 2:59pm:
Yeah well it is censorship and an abuse of your power.



polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 11:50am:
edit: title changed from "The Religion of Peace kicks up a storm ..."

to "Riots in Bangladesh"


Herbert or anyone else is more than welcome to talk about "the religion of peace kicking up a storm" in the thread body. But as a subject heading it gives no indication of what the topic is actually about - no reference to the political context surrounding the execution of an islamic leader, and not even a reference to it occuring in Bangladesh. I think its important for people to have a clear grasp of exactly what the topic is about without having to open it up and then open up an external link.

I would have even accepted something like "Riots in Bangladesh: the religion of peace kicks up a storm" - but I doubt it would all fit.

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Herbert on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:08pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 2:55pm:
mod edit: HB this stock-standard post of yours will no longer be tolerated, so you may as well stop posting it.


Thank you, gandalf.

He's been letting off fire crackers with impunity for some time now without any retribution from the moderators.


Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Stratos on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:17pm
Gandalf has outlined the rules as per the new Riot Act.  If you think something should be banned and it isn't, notify him.  If you think something is banned and shouldn't be, ask which rule it was banned for.

I personally think having a set of standards will lead to a more satisfying debate on matters of Islam, and after all, that should really be why we post in here yes?  No trolling, personal attacks or annoying spammed responses?  Yes please

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Herbert on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:23pm
The problem with HB is that he's been 'tagging' my posts like a spray-can delinquent for the umpteenth time now.

It's like some kid at the back of the class making a rude noise as the teacher leaves the room.

And repeating this performance over and over again.


Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by gandalf on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:30pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:23pm:
The problem with HB is that he's been 'tagging' my posts like a spray-can delinquent for the umpteenth time now.

It's like some kid at the back of the class making a rude noise as the teacher leaves the room.

And repeating this performance over and over again.


Agreed.

Now that will be the last moderating-related post in this thread. Please feel free to continue the conversation in the riot act thread.

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Herbert on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:42pm

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Molla is the first person to be executed over crimes committed during Bangladesh's war of independence against Pakistan.

The 65-year-old was convicted of being a leader of a pro-Pakistan militia in 1971 that killed some of Bangladesh's top professors, doctors, writers and journalists.


I personally don't believe in the death penalty being acted upon 42 years after the offences were committed.

It's the same appalling system in American jails. They sit in Death Row for 10 years or so before they're marched off to the injection room. It's just idiotic.

The guilty should be dispatched with all due haste just as the Indonesians did with the Smiling Assassin and his cohorts.




Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Stratos on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:42pm:
It's the same appalling system in American jails. They sit in Death Row for 10 years or so before they're marched off to the injection room. It's just idiotic.


On one hand, it costs a fortune in prison and legal costs, on the other hand, you need the legal framework in place for the possibility you are killing someone who does not deserve to die. 

You really shouldn't rush a human life, but I agree: when the system costs more to kill someone than incarcerate them for decades, you have a problem

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Herbert on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:57pm

Stratos wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:42pm:
It's the same appalling system in American jails. They sit in Death Row for 10 years or so before they're marched off to the injection room. It's just idiotic.


On one hand, it costs a fortune in prison and legal costs, on the other hand, you need the legal framework in place for the possibility you are killing someone who does not deserve to die. 

You really shouldn't rush a human life, but I agree: when the system costs more to kill someone than incarcerate them for decades, you have a problem


Nothing to do with cost.

It's simply a matter of common humanity that you don't keep a convicted murderer teetering on the edge of the Eternal Precipice for an entire 10 years or so.



Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Stratos on Dec 16th, 2013 at 4:00pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:57pm:
It's simply a matter of common humanity that you don't keep a convicted murderer teetering on the edge of the Eternal Precipice for an entire 10 years or so.



This is why. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_inmates

Title: Re: Riots in Bangladesh
Post by Herbert on Dec 16th, 2013 at 4:13pm

Stratos wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 4:00pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 3:57pm:
It's simply a matter of common humanity that you don't keep a convicted murderer teetering on the edge of the Eternal Precipice for an entire 10 years or so.



This is why. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_inmates


So what's the problem?

They were exonerated posthumously ~ and the rellies received a shitload of compensation to keep them in clover for the rest of their lives.

Just ask the rellies if they're sorry he was executed?  8-)

A minimum of $1million compensation EACH to the immediate family ...

How good is that?

If he ever tried to crawl out of the grave they'd hit him with a shovel and tell him to "STAY DOWN, YA BUM!"




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