Yadda is a perfect example of a spineless Christian apologetic and here is proof!


Yadda wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 11:12pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:54pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:51pm: I trust God Does this mean you agree with God's actions when he ordered the Israelites to massacre 6 separate peoples. Stratos, I have no quarrel with God, and with what God ordered the Israelites to do.

He is perfectly willing to accept genocide if committed in the name of his Christian "God".   :D  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D

|dev|null wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 11:34am:

Yadda is a perfect example of a spineless Christian apologetic and here is proof! Yadda wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 11:12pm: Stratos wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:54pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:51pm: I trust God Does this mean you agree with God's actions when he ordered the Israelites to massacre 6 separate peoples. Stratos, I have no quarrel with God, and with what God ordered the Israelites to do. He is perfectly willing to accept genocide if committed in the name of his Christian "God".   :D  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D

Not technically THE Christian God there Jnr...  Christ didn't exist nor therefore did his teachings.  Want me to explain Jews/Jebrews/Torah/Old testament for you?  Better yet... sit down with the rest of the bwaintwust and all do some research for a few months.

So basically, you are saying that this Christian isn't representative of most Christians?

Grendel wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 6:59pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 11:34am: Yadda is a perfect example of a spineless Christian apologetic and here is proof! Yadda wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 11:12pm: Stratos wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:54pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:51pm: I trust God Does this mean you agree with God's actions when he ordered the Israelites to massacre 6 separate peoples. Stratos, I have no quarrel with God, and with what God ordered the Israelites to do. He is perfectly willing to accept genocide if committed in the name of his Christian "God".   :D  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D Not technically THE Christian God there Jnr...  Christ didn't exist nor therefore did his teachings.  Want me to explain Jews/Jebrews/Torah/Old testament for you?  Better yet... sit down with the rest of the bwaintwust and all do some research for a few months.

Did Noah exist?

(and his big boat)

Grendel wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 6:59pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 11:34am: Yadda is a perfect example of a spineless Christian apologetic and here is proof! Yadda wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 11:12pm: Stratos wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:54pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:51pm: I trust God Does this mean you agree with God's actions when he ordered the Israelites to massacre 6 separate peoples. Stratos, I have no quarrel with God, and with what God ordered the Israelites to do. He is perfectly willing to accept genocide if committed in the name of his Christian "God".   :D  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D Not technically THE Christian God there Jnr...  Christ didn't exist nor therefore did his teachings.  Want me to explain Jews/Jebrews/Torah/Old testament for you?  Better yet... sit down with the rest of the bwaintwust and all do some research for a few months.

The old testament is definitely part of the Bible.  I just had a glance inside mine and yes, it's there.  Now, the Bible is the book of God's teachings and divinely inspired according Christians.  So, essentially what you're saying is that there is more than one God (one in the old testament and one in new testament and they are different beings) and that half of the Christians' holy book is completely irrelevant to their teachings?  This seems to run contrary to what most Christians believe from my readings of their writings.

Seems an odd thing to claim.  Are you sure you're not the one who needs to do some research?   ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament.

The Old Testament is a record of the covenant of God With the Israelites

The New Testament is a record of the covenant between Christ and His followers.

Most of the anti Christian brigade always try to equate Deuteronomy and the law as being binding on Christians. They are lying: 

Luke 16:16  The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached , and every man presseth into it.

Romans 3:20  Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Romans 3:28  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Galatians 2:16  Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

So over 2000 years ago the Law was done away with for Christians.

moses wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 4:02pm:

The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. The Old Testament is a record of the covenant of God With the Israelites The New Testament is a record of the covenant between Christ and His followers. Most of the anti Christian brigade always try to equate Deuteronomy and the law as being binding on Christians. They are lying:  Luke 16:16  The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached , and every man presseth into it. Romans 3:20  Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Romans 3:28  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Galatians 2:16  Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Galatians 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. So over 2000 years ago the Law was done away with for Christians.

"The Sabbath (law) was made for man, not man for the Sabbath."

This is why Islam (submission to the law) and Christianity (the right relationship) cannot be reconciled. Islam is about performing the ritual, Christianity about relating to one another with love.
Islam is easy ("don't think, do it our way"), Christianity is very hard (look into your own heart and take personal responsibility).

And there is much, much more residual Christianity in secular Western societies that anything resembling the Islamic or Orthodox Jewish obeyance to the revealed letter of the law.

Even in legal terms, the English common law tradition is as Christianity to the continental, Napoleonic, French black letter law of Orthodox Judaism and Islam.

|dev|null wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 6:59pm: |dev|null wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 11:34am: Yadda is a perfect example of a spineless Christian apologetic and here is proof! Yadda wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 11:12pm: Stratos wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:54pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:51pm: I trust God Does this mean you agree with God's actions when he ordered the Israelites to massacre 6 separate peoples. Stratos, I have no quarrel with God, and with what God ordered the Israelites to do. He is perfectly willing to accept genocide if committed in the name of his Christian "God".   :D  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D Not technically THE Christian God there Jnr...  Christ didn't exist nor therefore did his teachings.  Want me to explain Jews/Jebrews/Torah/Old testament for you?  Better yet... sit down with the rest of the bwaintwust and all do some research for a few months. The old testament is definitely part of the Bible.  I just had a glance inside mine and yes, it's there.  Now, the Bible is the book of God's teachings and divinely inspired according Christians.  So, essentially what you're saying is that there is more than one God (one in the old testament and one in new testament and they are different beings) and that half of the Christians' holy book is completely irrelevant to their teachings?  This seems to run contrary to what most Christians believe from my readings of their writings. Seems an odd thing to claim.  Are you sure you're not the one who needs to do some research?   ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You don't understand the testaments do you?
You do realise there can be no Christianity without Christ right?
Given that even a Tard should understand that what don't you understand about there being no Christianity or Christians before Christ?

|dev|null wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:

So, essentially what you're saying is that there is more than one God (one in the old testament and one in new testament and they are different beings) and that half of the Christians' holy book is completely irrelevant to their teachings?  This seems to run contrary to what most Christians believe from my readings of their writings. Seems an odd thing to claim.  Are you sure you're not the one who needs to do some research?   ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Your reading of their writing, you say??? Fascinating Tits - sorry - Fascinating, Tits.

Tell us about 'your reading of their writings'. Who are you reading? What do they say about the relationship of the old and the new testaments?

Share Tits - sorry - Share, Tits.


And while we are on to your 'reading of their writings', what do your Islamic writers say about the difference between the old and new testaments?
You seem to read so much, you must know so much. Tell us.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Now an answer to that last question will be interesting.  ;D
it might take him a while to research an answer... ;D ;D ;D

moses wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 4:02pm:

The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament.

Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts. 

All this BS you're posting is typical obsfucation by Christian apologetics.  You try and lie your way out the reality of what your holy book teaches - violence, hatred and intolerance for anybody who is an non-believer! 

Grendel wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

You don't understand the testaments do you?

Of course I understand them.  Both are part of the Bible.  Therefore both are part of the teachings of the Christian church to it's followers.  This is self-evident from the way in which the Christian apologetics like yourself try and obscure the fact that the Old Testament is an integral part of the Bible.

If it had no significance it would have been discarded from the start and not been included or come with a big warning that it was outdated/outmoded/obsolescent. 


Quote:

You do realise there can be no Christianity without Christ right?

So why is the Old Testament an integral part of Christianity's teachings?  Why is it quoted endlessly in Christian services and writings?


Quote:

Given that even a Tard should understand that what don't you understand about there being no Christianity or Christians before Christ?

So why do they include the Old Testament in the Bible?  It's all about the Jews not Christians so obviously it shouldn't concern them but they do and it does!   ;D  :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

|dev|null wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 3:15pm:

moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.

Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now?

Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits.

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 4:53pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits.

Have you noticed Soren, the difference between extremism and moderate believers?  No one here is remotely defending Islamic Extremism, or any other kind of religious extremism (well, except Yadda the genocide advocate)

Stratos wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 5:19pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 4:53pm: |dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits. Have you noticed Soren, the difference between extremism and moderate believers?  No one here is remotely defending Islamic Extremism, or any other kind of religious extremism (well, except Yadda the genocide advocate)

Awwww Stratos!, you are just afraid that i may be correct.

And [afraid] that my God is going to kill you all, for being infidels!!!         ;D         ;D         ;D

[pssssst!, you should be!]





Dictionary;
infidelity = =
1 the action or state of being sexually unfaithful.
2 lack of religious faith.i+++


Matthew 18:15
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.


2 Corinthians 6:15
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 4:53pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits.

There is a difference between occasional criticism and persecution.  As you are unable to make such a differentiation what does that suggest about your excessive criticism?

How many posts have I made critical of Christianity compared to how many you've made of Islam?  Or are you going to deny that the overwhelming majority of your 16719 posts haven't been attacks on Islam and Muslims?   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Yadda wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 5:19pm: Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 4:53pm: |dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits. Have you noticed Soren, the difference between extremism and moderate believers?  No one here is remotely defending Islamic Extremism, or any other kind of religious extremism (well, except Yadda the genocide advocate) Awwww Stratos!, you are just afraid that i may be correct. And [afraid] that my God is going to kill you all, for being infidels!!!         ;D         ;D         ;D [pssssst!, you should be!]

I hate to break this to you.  There is no God.  It is a figment of your imagination.  Stop consuming the Opiate!   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

How many posts have I made critical of Christianity compared to how many you've made of Islam?  Or are you going to deny that the overwhelming majority of your 16719 posts haven't been attacks on Islam and Muslims?   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

The difference between persecution and criticism is post count?

Do you know what persecution is? 

Brian does, he just doesn't feel that he can criticise it.   ;D ;D

Heads ahoy....   8-)

|dev|null wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 4:53pm: |dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits. There is a difference between occasional criticism and persecution.

So what do you like about Christianity, then, that makes you hold back?

|dev|null wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 6:48pm: Stratos wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 5:19pm: Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 4:53pm: |dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits. Have you noticed Soren, the difference between extremism and moderate believers?  No one here is remotely defending Islamic Extremism, or any other kind of religious extremism (well, except Yadda the genocide advocate) Awwww Stratos!, you are just afraid that i may be correct. And [afraid] that my God is going to kill you all, for being infidels!!!         ;D         ;D         ;D [pssssst!, you should be!] I hate to break this to you.  There is no God.  It is a figment of your imagination.  Stop consuming the Opiate!   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

(.)(.)
whatever your name is....

I hate to break this to you.    There is a God.    God exists.



Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.





CONSIDER;
Prior to Columbus discovering the Americas [well, central America anyway] the American continents did not exist, well not within the mental consciousness of Europeans.

I am sure that when Columbus returned to Spain, that initially many of his interlocutors were unable to 'conceive' of Columbus' 'new world', beyond the horizon.

I am certain that when Columbus returned to Spain from the Americas, that many Europeans refused to believe, that he had discovered a 'new world'.

And why so ???

"A new world???
Beyond the horizon!!!
That is absurd.
I have not experienced it, and i can not conceive of it, therefore, it is not, it can not be real."



Its the same concept.

Trying to convince a 'natural' man of the existence of a spiritual realm, must be, i am sure, similar to the initial experience of Columbus when he returned from the new world.

"I can't believe that there is a spiritual realm, because >> i << have not experienced it."

LOL

Fair enough.

You poor atheists, live in such a 'small world'.

I am happy for you, to believe what you will.



Your own human 'wisdom' ["I am only going to believe in, that which >> i << can perceive!"] precludes you, being willing to search, for what you 'know', does not exist.

Good luck with that!!!        :P




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CONSIDER, #2;

If an atheist stepped outside on a sunny cloudless day, an atheist would never dream of suggesting that there are no stars in the sky, above their head.

Why?

Because...
Even though an atheist cannot see the stars overhead, the atheist knows that the stars are there.

Likewise, many theists [believers in, lovers of, God] know that God, our 'imaginary friend' [a spirit], is there.

Many people know [from 1st hand experience] that God is real.

Stratos wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 5:19pm:

Have you noticed Soren, the difference between extremism and moderate believers?  No one here is remotely defending Islamic Extremism, or any other kind of religious extremism (well, except Yadda the genocide advocate)

So you are cool with 'moderate' supremacists, then.

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 8:04pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 5:19pm: Have you noticed Soren, the difference between extremism and moderate believers?  No one here is remotely defending Islamic Extremism, or any other kind of religious extremism (well, except Yadda the genocide advocate) So you are cool with 'moderate' supremacists, then.

And don't forget the moderate Nazis, Soren.

Stratos wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 5:19pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 4:53pm: |dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits. Have you noticed Soren, the difference between extremism and moderate believers?  No one here is remotely defending Islamic Extremism, or any other kind of religious extremism (well, except Yadda the genocide advocate)

The wally1 shows far more hatred, bile, racism and bigotry than any on this forum. Muslims are like that tho. Taught they are  superior beings from an early age, it inflates an already over massaged ego leading to very antisocial behaviour.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375266038/89#89

Pity he only beheaded 800 jews.

Mo should of finished them all off.

Yep wally1 wrote that. Sick bastard retard that he is.

Adamant wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 9:35pm:

The wally1 shows far more hatred, bile, racism and bigotry than any on this forum.

i'm not overly familiar with Wally, but I doubt he condones genocide like Yadda does.


Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 8:04pm:

So you are cool with 'moderate' supremacists, then.

Who mentioned supremacists?  I didn't.


Yadda wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 8:13pm:

And don't forget the moderate Nazis, Soren.

So you condemn Nazis, thats good to know.  What with you supporting genocide I wasn't so sure you would.

Every muslim who engages in child sex, inbreeding, butchery of their fellow man, killing of their daughters and wives, oppression and discrimination, can and do, justify their actions by citing islam / allah / muhammad / qur'an. They are following exactly what they are taught by this aggregate of evil.

islam is the 21st century threat facing man.

The behaviour of muslims around the globe certainly warrants people showing their disdain and disapproval of this cult, in the absolute strongest terms possible.

Yadda wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 8:13pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 8:04pm: Stratos wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 5:19pm: Have you noticed Soren, the difference between extremism and moderate believers?  No one here is remotely defending Islamic Extremism, or any other kind of religious extremism (well, except Yadda the genocide advocate) So you are cool with 'moderate' supremacists, then. And don't forget the moderate Nazis, Soren.

Nor the supremacist  Christians or Hindus, Yadda and Soren.  They seem to be perfectly acceptable to you for some reason...   ::)

Adamant wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 9:35pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 5:19pm: Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 4:53pm: |dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits. Have you noticed Soren, the difference between extremism and moderate believers?  No one here is remotely defending Islamic Extremism, or any other kind of religious extremism (well, except Yadda the genocide advocate) The wally1 shows far more hatred, bile, racism and bigotry than any on this forum.

Apart, of course perhaps for Freediver, Soren and Yadda.

Or will you suggest I'm libelling them?  What ever happened to your demands again, Adamant?   ::)

Stratos wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 5:19pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 4:53pm: |dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits. Have you noticed Soren, the difference between extremism and moderate believers?  No one here is remotely defending Islamic Extremism, or any other kind of religious extremism (well, except Yadda the genocide advocate)

SO 'moderates' should not be criticised, only extremists?

Are you out of your mind? You are implying/advocating soft fascism.

Stratos wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 10:40pm:

Who mentioned supremacists?  I didn't.

Sorry, I thought you were defending Islam for a moment.

BWIAN....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/head_up_your_ass2.jpg

Had enough judging others and being a huge hypocrite yet bwian...  no?  how unusual for you.

|dev|null wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 4:53pm: |dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits. There is a difference between occasional criticism and persecution.  As you are unable to make such a differentiation what does that suggest about your excessive criticism? How many posts have I made critical of Christianity compared to how many you've made of Islam?  Or are you going to deny that the overwhelming majority of your 16719 posts haven't been attacks on Islam and Muslims?   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Deny it?

You talk as if being critical of Islam is something one had to deny!
Foock off, will ya!!

If Islam p!sses me orf, I am entitled to say so. As many times as I like.  I do not have to respect Islam, just as I do not have to respect any other ideology or religion.

And what is 16,000 post on an obscure forum compared to 1400 years of bloody conquest, subjugation, oppression.

Tell me ONE good thing Islam has brought into this world that was new. Just one.



I have never ever conquered, subjugated, oppressed anyone. Just on that count you should follow me rather than Islam.

Coffee

Checkmate

Stratos wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 10:45pm:

Coffee Checkmate

So without Mohammed we wouldn't have coffee???!!!

Are you really that stupid?

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 10:45pm: Coffee Checkmate So without Mohammed we wouldn't have coffee???!!! Are you really that stupid?

I can answer that Soren...  yes he/she is...  there's proof all over the site.

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 10:45pm: Coffee Checkmate So without Mohammed we wouldn't have coffee???!!! Are you really that stupid?

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

So without Mohammed we wouldn't have coffee???!!!

Muslims were the first people to roast and brew coffee beans as we do today.  It was disliked by the catholic church, who called it "the Muslim Drink"

Stratos wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 11:02am:

Soren wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 9:28am: Stratos wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 10:45pm: Coffee Checkmate So without Mohammed we wouldn't have coffee???!!! Are you really that stupid? Soren wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 9:28am: So without Mohammed we wouldn't have coffee???!!! Muslims were the first people to roast and brew coffee beans as we do today.  It was disliked by the catholic church, who called it "the Muslim Drink"

SO we can thank Jesus for the internal combustion engine, penicillin, and movable type because they were all invented in Christian Europe???
There is no limit to your stupidity, is there?

Soren wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 10:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:12pm: Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 4:53pm: |dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 3:15pm: moses wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:02pm: The Old Testament proclaims ancient & sometimes fundamentalist doctrine, which is replaced by Christian Doctrine in the New Testament. Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.  Are you saying that when they do this they are like the Muslims? Implying, as you so eloquently do, that Muslims should be open to no less critical ridicule and when they are criticised it is no more racist and no more a religious persecution than what you just did now? Well done, five squeezes from me, Tits. There is a difference between occasional criticism and persecution.  As you are unable to make such a differentiation what does that suggest about your excessive criticism? How many posts have I made critical of Christianity compared to how many you've made of Islam?  Or are you going to deny that the overwhelming majority of your 16719 posts haven't been attacks on Islam and Muslims?   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D Deny it? You talk as if being critical of Islam is something one had to deny! Foock off, will ya!! If Islam p!sses me orf, I am entitled to say so. As many times as I like.  I do not have to respect Islam, just as I do not have to respect any other ideology or religion. And what is 16,000 post on an obscure forum compared to 1400 years of bloody conquest, subjugation, oppression. Tell me ONE good thing Islam has brought into this world that was new. Just one. I have never ever conquered, subjugated, oppressed anyone. Just on that count you should follow me rather than Islam.

exactly, you haven't conqured anything and that's why members don't like you.

What army have you led?

What army did you beat?

What wealth did you amass?

What land did you win?

What have you done for humanity beside being a waste of breathing space?

Brilliant.
So when the West leads armies against the Muslims, beats them in battles and takes their oil, you applaud them because they are doing what Mohammed was doing - lead armies, win battles, amass wealth, take territory.

Thanks!! Everybody ululate!!

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 12:02pm:

Brilliant. So when the West leads armies against the Muslims, beats them in battles and takes their oil, you applaud them because they are doing what Mohammed was doing - lead armies, win battles, amass wealth, take territory. Thanks!! Everybody ululate!!

when you get one follower let me know and I will join your book club.

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 12:02pm:

Brilliant. So when the West leads armies against the Muslims, beats them in battles and takes their oil, you applaud them because they are doing what Mohammed was doing - lead armies, win battles, amass wealth, take territory. Thanks!! Everybody ululate!!

Who did the west beat?

West cant even beat a rag tag afghan insurgency, 13 years and you stil cant beat them.

Mohamed tolok over all of Arabia in 13 years, America cant even beat some poor afghans in 13 years and the west have the best weapons in the world.

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

movable type because they were all invented in Christian Europe

Lol


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The world's first known movable type system for printing was created in China around 1040 A.D. by Bi Sheng (990–1051) during the Song Dynasty

Hot Breath wrote:


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Yet the Old Testament remains included in the Bible.  Yet, the Old Testament is quoted by many Christians to justify their most heinous acts.

Yes,the Old Testament is, for the most part, a superceded component of the Bible.

As for those people who claim to justify their actions by Old Testament writings: Are they obeying the teachings of Christ?


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All this BS you're posting is typical obsfucation by Christian apologetics.  You try and lie your way out the reality of what your holy book teaches - violence, hatred and intolerance for anybody who is an non-believer!

 

I know it is very hard for you to accept reality: the New Testament is the criteria for Christianity.

It's very simple really, you prove New Testament teachings do not replace many parts of the Old Testament, for Christians.

Stratos wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 12:14pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 11:48am: movable type because they were all invented in Christian Europe Lol Quote: The world's first known movable type system for printing was created in China around 1040 A.D. by Bi Sheng (990–1051) during the Song Dynasty

First created in China where it remained totally obscure and unknown.

Gutenberg's press, on the other hand, set off a new era.

Thank you, Jesus!!

And what about the internal combustion engine and penicillin? Isn't there some hadith saying how Mohammed thought of them already? Like a flying carpet and a magic potion?

wally1 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:02pm: Brilliant. So when the West leads armies against the Muslims, beats them in battles and takes their oil, you applaud them because they are doing what Mohammed was doing - lead armies, win battles, amass wealth, take territory. Thanks!! Everybody ululate!! Who did the west beat? West cant even beat a rag tag afghan insurgency, 13 years and you stil cant beat them. Mohamed tolok over all of Arabia in 13 years, America cant even beat some poor afghans in 13 years and the west have the best weapons in the world.

If the West fought like Mohammed, there would be no Afghans or Iraqis or Pakis or Persians left.

The west beats every uniformed army. The ragtag Afghans are exploiting the west's ethical principles of sparing civilians as much as possible.

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 4:21pm:

wally1 wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:11pm: Soren wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:02pm: Brilliant. So when the West leads armies against the Muslims, beats them in battles and takes their oil, you applaud them because they are doing what Mohammed was doing - lead armies, win battles, amass wealth, take territory. Thanks!! Everybody ululate!! Who did the west beat? West cant even beat a rag tag afghan insurgency, 13 years and you stil cant beat them. Mohamed tolok over all of Arabia in 13 years, America cant even beat some poor afghans in 13 years and the west have the best weapons in the world. If the West fought like Mohammed, there would be no Afghans or Iraqis or Pakis or Persians left. The west beats every uniformed army. The ragtag Afghans are exploiting the west's ethical principles of sparing civilians as much as possible.

Atleast Mo fought on equal terms.

They fought sword with sword, horse with horse, camel with camel.

He didn't lock up the non muslim up in a area, give them no weapons then slaughter them from land, air and sea.

That's something only the west is good at.

Put sanctions on them (example Iraq and Afghanistan) then bomb the poo out of them when you have weakened them.

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 4:13pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:14pm: Soren wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 11:48am: movable type because they were all invented in Christian Europe Lol Quote: The world's first known movable type system for printing was created in China around 1040 A.D. by Bi Sheng (990–1051) during the Song Dynasty First created in China where it remained totally obscure and unknown. Gutenberg's press, on the other hand, set off a new era. Thank you, Jesus!! And what about the internal combustion engine and penicillin? Isn't there some hadith saying how Mohammed thought of them already? Like a flying carpet and a magic potion?

Exhibit A: Moving the Goalposts.

See how the person whose argument is wrong tries and retroactively change the original question so that his false argument is now correct

wally1 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 4:44pm:

Atleast Mo fought on equal terms. They fought sword with sword, horse with horse, camel with camel. He didn't lock up the non muslim up in a area, give them no weapons then slaughter them from land, air and sea. That's something only the west is good at. Put sanctions on them (example Iraq and Afghanistan) then bomb the poo out of them when you have weakened them.

That's the only language they seem to understand.