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Message started by salad in on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:14am

Title: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by salad in on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:14am

Quote:
Grand Mufti threatened Labor over Israel ‘bias’

Australia’s senior Islamic cleric threatened to withdraw community support for federal Labor in Western Sydney if union leader Paul Howes replaced Bob Carr in the Senate, a leaked email reveals.

http://www.afr.com/p/national/grand_mufti_threatened_labor_over_Icf2aeY266mv1mLRHTUIXJ

(the rest of the story resides behind the paywall)


We should see some uplifting policies being developed by the Islam/ALP/Green alliance. What about a policy regarding lapidation for disobedient wives and female partners? Maybe an official punishment of hand chopping will be legislated by the progressive Islam/ALP/Green alliance. Perhaps we might see some 9-word slogans like... "Those who believe fight in the cause of Shorten Allah…" It might even be possible for the ALP to scare away boat people by letting them know Islam has a large influence over ALP policy development. Who would want the yoke of Islam as a burden to carry.

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by adelcrow on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:23am
And what did Labor do in the face of these Islamic threats?..Did they roll over like Abbott did for Murdoch?  ;D

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by cods on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:26am
beware greeks bearing gifts...... a very true saying..

it also applies to Muslims by the look of this.... you have our vote if you do this????..

thats isnt right is it.??..

they are dictating our foreign policy.. just like the greens... they are little groups of wannabees how dare they....

next it will be you will have our support only if you preselect muslims...NO THANK YOU

Labor watch who you jump into bed with.. >:( >:(

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by Bam on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:34am
Geez the rightards are getting quite incoherent and delusional.

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by adelcrow on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:38am
I wonder how this relates to Tony Abbott threatening businesses with retribution if they co-operated with the Rudd/ Gillard govts?

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by pansi1951 on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:43am

Jews and Arabs don't like each other.

When did this happen?

So the grand mufti is p1ssed off with Labor?

The Mufti is actually saying that both Libs and Labor have an alliance to Israel, that is to be expected since they are one and the same.


Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by adelcrow on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:55am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:43am:
Jews and Arabs don't like each other.

When did this happen?

So the grand mufti is p1ssed off with Labor?

The Mufti is actually saying that both Libs and Labor have an alliance to Israel, that is to be expected since they are one and the same.


And of course anyone that thinks that Labor or the Liberals would dump their support of Israel because some self proclaimed grand mufti threatened them has rocks in their head.

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by bogarde73 on Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:22pm
At least now we know what influences the ALP to the extent that Howes withdraws from a yet to be vacated senate seat.
No wonder they let so many boats in.

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by brumbie on Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:58pm
The "Islamic Tea Party"  ;)

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by Phemanderac on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:05pm

Well I certainly do not want the "yoke of Islam" nor do infact want the other yoke, you know the one of catholicism (or for that matter even more broadly, Christianity as a burden to carry. Of course that said, at least as a mature adult I am relatively safe from the Catholic abuses....


Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by adelcrow on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:10pm

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:22pm:
At least now we know what influences the ALP to the extent that Howes withdraws from a yet to be vacated senate seat.
No wonder they let so many boats in.


Yeah..receiving a whinging email from a nut job mufti influenced Howes decision  ;D

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by Chimp_Logic on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:55pm

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:22pm:
At least now we know what influences the ALP to the extent that Howes withdraws from a yet to be vacated senate seat.
No wonder they let so many boats in.


How many boats did they let in?

Belgium which is a far smaller country than Australia takes in about 50,000 asylum seekers each year.

Australia has obligations to take in about 6000 asylum seekers each year.

about 95% of asylum seekers to land on our shores, are eventually classed as legitimate and allowed to stay here.

Something obviously wrong with you and basic comprehension of global realities.

Let me guess - you also believe in GOD and Jesus Christ like Abbott and Howard do.


Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by bigvicfella on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:57pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:55pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:22pm:
At least now we know what influences the ALP to the extent that Howes withdraws from a yet to be vacated senate seat.
No wonder they let so many boats in.


How many boats did they let in?

Belgium which is a far smaller country than Australia takes in about 50,000 asylum seekers each year.

Australia has obligations to take in about 6000 asylum seekers each year.

about 95% of asylum seekers to land on our shores, are eventually classed as legitimate and allowed to stay here.

Something obviously wrong with you and basic comprehension of global realities.

Let me guess - you also believe in GOD and Jesus Christ like Abbott and Howard do.



It's about to hit 1000 asylum seekers under the new gubment - not bad for just over a week  ;)

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by cods on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:26pm

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 1:22pm:
At least now we know what influences the ALP to the extent that Howes withdraws from a yet to be vacated senate seat.
No wonder they let so many boats in.




and theres me thinking it was the FEMALE QUOTA as was put out by the labor party.,.......???????.....and all the while its.. play the game ou  OUR WAY or we take our vote and go home...

good one labor... all we need is another minority group.to dictate to us........ gay marriage anyone???

mind you the greens will probably jump into bed with them.. dont they too have a hatred for the Jews???...

they should very well suit each other.

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by Datalife on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:26pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:55pm:
How many boats did they let in?

Belgium which is a far smaller country than Australia takes in about 50,000 asylum seekers each year.

Australia has obligations to take in about 6000 asylum seekers each year.

about 95% of asylum seekers to land on our shores, are eventually classed as legitimate and allowed to stay here.

Something obviously wrong with you and basic comprehension of global realities.

Let me guess - you also believe in GOD and Jesus Christ like Abbott and Howard do.


Not so much a Chimp as a chump, maybe you can have a shot at this, you ran away last time.   


Datalife wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:06pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 18th, 2013 at 10:30pm:
 
Belgium takes in 50,000+ asylum seekers and refugees each year, and Belgium is smaller and less wealthy than Australia.


According to the UNHCR Asylum applications in Belgium in

2008 was 12250
2009 was 17190
2010 was 21760
2011 was 26000
2012 was 18520

Page 20  http://unhcr.org/asylumtrends/UNHCR%20ASYLUM%20TRENDS%202012_WEB.pdf

And as an aside, those figures include repeat applications. 

Where are you getting 50 thousand plus per year and over what years and a reference. 


Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by Peter Freedman on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:46pm
I've no problem with having a close relationship with Israel, if we would use it to put pressure on the Jews to seek peace with Palestine.

But all we seem to do is, well, nothing.

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by adelcrow on Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:14pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:46pm:
I've no problem with having a close relationship with Israel, if we would use it to put pressure on the Jews to seek peace with Palestine.

But all we seem to do is, well, nothing.


The mufti threatened Labor and Abbott threatened our business community..I figure both Labor and Australias business community are being threatened by extremist nutjobs  :D

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by cods on Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:21pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:46pm:
I've no problem with having a close relationship with Israel, if we would use it to put pressure on the Jews to seek peace with Palestine.

But all we seem to do is, well, nothing.




I dont think its any of our business... they are all the same brothers really under the skin.. its like Ireland..

old wars old sores...... some live in the past and that way they never live for the future..

personally I think they like war...well why else would you bomb someone if you didnt expect to get bombed back???

we forget that makes sense to some..

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by gandalf on Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:40pm

cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:26am:
beware greeks bearing gifts...... a very true saying..

it also applies to Muslims by the look of this.... you have our vote if you do this????..

thats isnt right is it.??..

they are dictating our foreign policy.. just like the greens... they are little groups of wannabees how dare they....

next it will be you will have our support only if you preselect muslims...NO THANK YOU

Labor watch who you jump into bed with.. >:( >:(


Oh please  ::)

As if the labor party is not completely beholden to Israeli lobby groups. When was the last time Australia has ever uttered a single criticism towards Israel? You won't find it, because it has literally never happened. The labor government recently abstained from a vote on Palestinian UN membership (after Gillard originally wanted to vote against it) - and that was considered a major concession to the Palestinians! Thats how absurd things are.

Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by True Colours on Sep 26th, 2013 at 5:22pm
As if all religions are not doing the same thing.

The Catholic Church has many plants in the Liberal and Labor Party. Half of Abbott's cabinet are fanatical Catholics.

Jews are the most powerful lobbyists in the US.



Quote:
American Israel Public Affairs Committee

The New York Times has called it "the most important organization affecting America's relationship with Israel."[4] It has been described as one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington, DC. Its critics have stated it acts as an agent of the Israeli government with a "stranglehold" on the United States Congress with its power and influence...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee





Title: Re: Islam/ALP alliance
Post by Datalife on Sep 26th, 2013 at 10:14pm

Datalife wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:26pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:55pm:
How many boats did they let in?

Belgium which is a far smaller country than Australia takes in about 50,000 asylum seekers each year.

Australia has obligations to take in about 6000 asylum seekers each year.

about 95% of asylum seekers to land on our shores, are eventually classed as legitimate and allowed to stay here.

Something obviously wrong with you and basic comprehension of global realities.

Let me guess - you also believe in GOD and Jesus Christ like Abbott and Howard do.


Not so much a Chimp as a chump, maybe you can have a shot at this, you ran away last time.   


Datalife wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:06pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jul 18th, 2013 at 10:30pm:
 
Belgium takes in 50,000+ asylum seekers and refugees each year, and Belgium is smaller and less wealthy than Australia.


According to the UNHCR Asylum applications in Belgium in

2008 was 12250
2009 was 17190
2010 was 21760
2011 was 26000
2012 was 18520

Page 20  http://unhcr.org/asylumtrends/UNHCR%20ASYLUM%20TRENDS%202012_WEB.pdf

And as an aside, those figures include repeat applications. 

Where are you getting 50 thousand plus per year and over what years and a reference. 


Chimp the chump has once again refused to answer, instead beating a retreat, swinging his way through the canopy.  If any one sees him recycling his Belgium 50k asylum seekers feel free to repost my original question. 

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