Dunno if this is new, but it seems very reminiscent.  Cods will be very annoyed and no doubt demanding that the Government resign.

Aussie wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 2:52pm:

Dunno if this is new, but it seems very reminiscent.  Cods will be very annoyed and no doubt demanding that the Government resign.

Rubbish. It means he is well qualified to be an Australian politician.

Does no-one care about Victoria?  It has feelings too, you know!

Liberal state govt + Liberal Federal govt = DD..Double Disaster  :D

Aussie wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:09pm:

Does no-one care about Victoria?  It has feelings too, you know!

interesting dilemma. If we are talking about Geoff Shaw, Napthine needs his independant vote to get his legislation through.  If Geoff Goes - bye bye Libs.   ;D

Vic wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:09pm: Does no-one care about Victoria?  It has feelings too, you know! interesting dilemma. If we are talking about Geoff Shaw, Napthine needs his independant vote to get his legislation through.  If Geoff Goes - bye bye Libs.   ;D

Of course we are talking about Geoff Shaw!  It is in the embedded link in the OP.

:)

This is one for cods, because we know just how appalled she was that the Gillard ALP Government clung to power with the vote of Thomson who was in exactly the same position as Shaw now finds himself.

Aussie wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:15pm:

Vic wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:12pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:09pm: Does no-one care about Victoria?  It has feelings too, you know! interesting dilemma. If we are talking about Geoff Shaw, Napthine needs his independant vote to get his legislation through.  If Geoff Goes - bye bye Libs.   ;D Of course we are talking about Geoff Shaw!  It is in the embedded link in the OP. :)

I'm sorry - I can't see the embedded link.  Then again my eyes are 61 years old!   ;)

And so he should be charged.

A Victorian election would be interesting right now.

The electorate was rightly pissed off with the unelected Brumby Govt.

Ted B was about as dam useless as you can get.

Napthine is interesting – seems to be going OK (not that I’ve seen any polls etc) but Andrews seems to have a lot less to say these days.

Aussie wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 2:52pm:

Dunno if this is new, but it seems very reminiscent.  Cods will be very annoyed and no doubt demanding that the Government resign.

I do not recall calling for the resignation  of the gillard govt btw...perhaps you also could refrain from the lies on that score.

has Shaw been supported for over 12 months???... considered innocent until proven.... I believe is the great labor go???...

I am sure you are the only ones interested..

my major concern was WIDOWS FUNDS that disappeared up someone elses bank account..

something lefties showed not one iota of interest in...

when he gets charged with 176 chgs whilst sitting on the benches let us know aussie...


btw in all seriousness...I am disgusted with what goes on and seems to be allowed to go..... its never ending.

Vic wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Vic wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:12pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:09pm: Does no-one care about Victoria?  It has feelings too, you know! interesting dilemma. If we are talking about Geoff Shaw, Napthine needs his independant vote to get his legislation through.  If Geoff Goes - bye bye Libs.   ;D Of course we are talking about Geoff Shaw!  It is in the embedded link in the OP. :) I'm sorry - I can't see the embedded link.  Then again my eyes are 61 years old!   ;)

Just about anything I post which is in red you should 'click' on the red word, and you will see the link.

Vic wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Vic wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:12pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:09pm: Does no-one care about Victoria?  It has feelings too, you know! interesting dilemma. If we are talking about Geoff Shaw, Napthine needs his independant vote to get his legislation through.  If Geoff Goes - bye bye Libs.   ;D Of course we are talking about Geoff Shaw!  It is in the embedded link in the OP. :) I'm sorry - I can't see the embedded link.  Then again my eyes are 61 years old!   ;)

try the red THIS before aussie gets up you.. ;)

Aussie wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:20pm:

Vic wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:18pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Vic wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:12pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:09pm: Does no-one care about Victoria?  It has feelings too, you know! interesting dilemma. If we are talking about Geoff Shaw, Napthine needs his independant vote to get his legislation through.  If Geoff Goes - bye bye Libs.   ;D Of course we are talking about Geoff Shaw!  It is in the embedded link in the OP. :) I'm sorry - I can't see the embedded link.  Then again my eyes are 61 years old!   ;) Just about anything I post which is in red you should 'click' on the red word, and you will see the link.

that came up after i posted aussie.. sorry how come you didnt get up Vic... now thats showing bias....

aussie can you explain to me how you do that???.. I cannot even get a red address on here... ::)

[url (insert the sign =)http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/latest/a/-/article/18973903/vic-mp-geoff-shaw-facing-23-charges/]type the word you want here[/url]

Note the      [        at the commencement of the URL........the      ]     at the end of the URL............and the     [/url]            after the words you want to insert.

Also note.....you do not type '(insert the sign =)' you just put =.

Aussie wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

[url (insert the sign =)http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/latest/a/-/article/18973903/vic-mp-geoff-shaw-facing-23-charges/]type the word you want here[/url] Note the      [        at the commencement of the URL........the      ]     at the end of the URL............and the     [/url]            after the words you want to insert. Also note.....you do not type '(insert the sign =)' you just put =.

Or you use [url][/url]      which is the globe thingy icon at the left of that bar ^^^^ you see when you type a reply.  You insert the actual URL between the    and type what you want here       

Vic wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:09pm: Does no-one care about Victoria?  It has feelings too, you know! interesting dilemma. If we are talking about Geoff Shaw, Napthine needs his independant vote to get his legislation through.  If Geoff Goes - bye bye Libs.   ;D

Yes, they need his vote to remain in government.

This is eerily similar to the recent Craig Thomson business. The numbers are similarly tight - 43-43 + Speaker + Shaw. The imperilled MP has resigned from their party. The imperilled MP has been charged with criminal offences. Sound familiar?

For the Liberals, this could get very ugly, very quickly.

The worst-case scenario is that the Liberals will not even make it to the fixed-term election that is due in 14 months. Frankston has a margin of only 1.71% and can easily fall to Labor in a by-election.

Will the liberal Party think twice before endorsing nutty Evangelical Christians in the future?

Prolly Shaw was in the wrong party - he would have been better suited to the Rise Up Australia Party.

FriYAY wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:18pm:

And so he should be charged. A Victorian election would be interesting right now. The electorate was rightly pissed off with the unelected Brumby Govt. Ted B was about as dam useless as you can get. Napthine is interesting – seems to be going OK (not that I’ve seen any polls etc) but Andrews seems to have a lot less to say these days.

WTF are you on?

1. Brumby wasn't unelected.
2. Brumby was a disrespectful imbecile.
3. Bailleiu was seen as do nothing because he never spoke to the media. But Bailleiu was actually good in my books. It's a shame for once a politician just wants to do their job, and still that's not good enough.

Here is another article on this festering fiasco.

Victorian Independent MP Geoff Shaw charged over use of taxpayer-funded car

I quote the last two paragraphs of the article below:

Quote:

If found guilty of obtaining financial advantage by deception, Shaw could face up to 10 years in jail. If convicted, Mr Shaw would no longer be able to hold his seat.

The Victorian Government is doomed.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

FriYAY wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:18pm: And so he should be charged. A Victorian election would be interesting right now. The electorate was rightly pissed off with the unelected Brumby Govt. Ted B was about as dam useless as you can get. Napthine is interesting – seems to be going OK (not that I’ve seen any polls etc) but Andrews seems to have a lot less to say these days. WTF are you on? 1. Brumby wasn't unelected.

Brumby took over from Bracks mid-term and lost the following election. He never actually won an election as Premier.


Quote:

2. Brumby was a disrespectful imbecile.

That is a matter of opinion.


Quote:

3. Bailleiu was seen as do nothing because he never spoke to the media. But Bailleiu was actually good in my books. It's a shame for once a politician just wants to do their job, and still that's not good enough.

Baillieu was pathetic because he refused to be accountable. He went to ground whenever there was a scandal big or small and gave the Opposition a clear run to denounce the latest wrongdoing. His satisfaction rating dived faster than an anvil pushed off a cliff and his government's rating dived with it, plunging from 57-43 to 45-55 in a little more than a year (Newspoll).

The Coalition are polling better with Napthine as leader but they have not done better than 51-49 in any Newspoll for two years. This is lower than their 2010 election result of 51.6-48.4.

Bam wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 5:47pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 5:29pm: FriYAY wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:18pm: And so he should be charged. A Victorian election would be interesting right now. The electorate was rightly pissed off with the unelected Brumby Govt. Ted B was about as dam useless as you can get. Napthine is interesting – seems to be going OK (not that I’ve seen any polls etc) but Andrews seems to have a lot less to say these days. WTF are you on? 1. Brumby wasn't unelected. Brumby took over from Bracks mid-term and lost the following election. He never actually won an election as Premier. Quote: 2. Brumby was a disrespectful imbecile. That is a matter of opinion. [quote]3. Bailleiu was seen as do nothing because he never spoke to the media. But Bailleiu was actually good in my books. It's a shame for once a politician just wants to do their job, and still that's not good enough.

Baillieu was pathetic because he refused to be accountable. He went to ground whenever there was a scandal big or small and gave the Opposition a clear run to denounce the latest wrongdoing. His satisfaction rating dived faster than an anvil pushed off a cliff and his government's rating dived with it, plunging from 57-43 to 45-55 in a little more than a year (Newspoll).

The Coalition are polling better with Napthine as leader but they have not done better than 51-49 in any Newspoll for two years. This is lower than their 2010 election result of 51.6-48.4.
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True it is a matter of opinion whether brumby was a smug prick or not.  But the election result in Victoria was not one of "it's time." it was more because of people's dislike of brumby.  So I'd say the matter of opinion is more swayed towards him being a prick.  And good riddance to him.

Frankston by-election 'unlikely' any time soon

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 5:57pm:

...the election result in Victoria was not one of "it's time." it was more because of people's dislike of brumby.

Labor had been in power for more than 11 years. Not many governments in Australia go for more than 11 years.



sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 5:57pm:

So I'd say the matter of opinion is more swayed towards him being a prick.  And good riddance to him.

I found him inoffensive - perhaps not as likeable as his predecessor though.

Bimonthly Newspoll has put Labor at 51-49. This Newspoll is an aggregate of the last two months, so the latest developments in the Shaw affair have little bearing on this poll.

Also, margin of error, blah blah blah.

More details here: Newspoll: 51-49 to Labor in Victoria (Crikey - Poll Bludger)

Aussie wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:27pm: [url (insert the sign =)http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/latest/a/-/article/18973903/vic-mp-geoff-shaw-facing-23-charges/]type the word you want here[/url] Note the      [        at the commencement of the URL........the      ]     at the end of the URL............and the     [/url]            after the words you want to insert. Also note.....you do not type '(insert the sign =)' you just put =. Or you use [url][/url]      which is the globe thingy icon at the left of that bar ^^^^ you see when you type a reply.  You insert the actual URL between the    and type what you want here

just testing

take 2



[url = testing ]http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/latest/a/-/article/18973903/vic-mp-geoff-shaw-facing-23-charges/[/url]

take 3

[url]http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/latest/a/-/article/18973903/vic-mp-geoff-shaw-facing-23-charges/[=testing/url]

take 4

http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/latest/a/-/article/18973903/vic-mp-geoff-shaw-facing-23-charges/

take 5  .... getting closer

[url = testing]http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/latest/a/-/article/18973903/vic-mp-geoff-shaw-facing-23-charges/[/url]

I give up ... I'll try again later

The Libs have stuffed up WA, NSW, Queensland and Victoria and now we've let them loose on the Australian economy...heaven help us all  :D

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

FriYAY wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:18pm: And so he should be charged. A Victorian election would be interesting right now. The electorate was rightly pissed off with the unelected Brumby Govt. Ted B was about as dam useless as you can get. Napthine is interesting – seems to be going OK (not that I’ve seen any polls etc) but Andrews seems to have a lot less to say these days. WTF are you on? 1. Brumby wasn't unelected.

Excuse dam me?

Brumby took over from Bracks - no election. Brumby lost his 1st election to Ted the Dud.

Have another biscuit detor.... ::)

Geoff Shaw's court case starts today

Vic wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 4:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Vic wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:12pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:09pm: Does no-one care about Victoria?  It has feelings too, you know! interesting dilemma. If we are talking about Geoff Shaw, Napthine needs his independant vote to get his legislation through.  If Geoff Goes - bye bye Libs.   ;D Of course we are talking about Geoff Shaw!  It is in the embedded link in the OP. :) I'm sorry - I can't see the embedded link.  Then again my eyes are 61 years old!   ;)

Aussie wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 2:52pm:

Dunno if http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/latest/a/-/article/18973903/vic-mp-geoff-shaw-facing-23-charges/ is new, but it seems very reminiscent.  Cods will be very annoyed and no doubt demanding that the Government resign.

I re-post the following here, as it is relevant.


perceptions_now wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 12:06pm:

Swagman wrote on Oct 8th, 2013 at 11:46am: I have a feeling of de ja vu for some reason... If you are a 'representative' of the community as politicians are and you attend a community event you are in effect working are you not?  :-? Expenses incurred for attending are work related expenses and are claimed from your employer.  :-? Clearly, most if not all of the following are for Private enjoyment! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BV-QTw4CIAA_pyz.jpg IF YOUR INTERPRETATION WAS ACCEPTED, THEN ALL POLITICIANS, WOULD BE ENTITLED TO RECOUP ALL MONIES OUTLAID, SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME ASSOCIATION WITH THE PUBLIC AND CLEARLY THAT IS NOT & NEVER WAS, THE INTENTION! If Abbott or any other Politician wants to go - for a Bike ride to the Races (Melbourne Cup or other) to the Cricket (Test match or other) to the Football (AFL Grand Finals or other) Car Racing (Bathhurst or other) to Ironman Events OR to any other event, which has no inherent value to the Public, then they should get or be found, another job, because they don't deserve the one they've got now! Btw, you should try less SPIN & more REALITY!

Leaving for other reasons be blowed!   The first of many Lib rats leaving the good ship Victoria - what a shame this wont cause a byelection.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/liberal-mp-philip-davis-to-quit-after-21-years-in-parliament/story-fni0fit3-1226736624837

Either way both sides of Politics are proving to be hypocrites and self serving parasites on the taxpayer....Thomson and Shaw have both shown the Governing body will do anything to hold on to power and the individuals themselves show little remorse for their actions!!!

>:( >:( >:(

This bloke Shaw is a bit of a legend it seems, assaulting 80 year olds today.

Charming fella.

Aussie wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

This bloke Shaw is a bit of a legend it seems, assaulting 80 year olds today. Charming fella.

Phony Tony will get jealous

Aussie wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

This bloke Shaw is a bit of a legend it seems, assaulting 80 year olds today. Charming fella.

Here is a link: MP Geoff Shaw involved in scuffle on Parliament steps