3 weeks ago - Shorten supported a leader who believes Labor did not have a mandate on the carbon tax

Barely a week after a heavy election lost where the electorate clearly backed the LIBs "abolish the carbon tax" stance - the next ALP leader thinks Labor has a mandate on the carbon tax  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Quote:

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2013/9/12/policy-politics/shorten-lauds-carbon-price-run-speech Bill Shorten has declared carbon pricing as a key achievement of the last Labor government in a speech announcing his intention to run for the party's leadership. "I know that Labor fundamentally believes in putting a price on carbon pollution ... Labor has a mandate for it's views on carbon pricing," he said.

Bushfires in the Blue Mountains

bit early don't you think?

Quote:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/09/12/13/46/shorten-will-stand-for-labor-leadership Ultimately caucus would decide matters of policy such as whether it would oppose moves to repeal the carbon tax, he said. "I do not believe it is good politics or indeed a good vision for Australia to defer to the next generation dealing with the problems of this generation," he said. "And Labor has a mandate for its views on carbon pricing pollution."

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:28pm:

Bushfires in the Blue Mountains bit early don't you think?

No right on time the election was last week.

On time for abbott to run scared of a DD on climate change.

I've never understood this innane "opposition controlled senate must be a rubber stamp for the government" line. If Abbott really had a "mandate", then he would control the senate.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:50pm:

I've never understood this innane "opposition controlled senate must be a rubber stamp for the government" line. If Abbott really had a "mandate", then he would control the senate.

finally, someone with speaks common sense.

Bill 'The Brow' Shorten

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110603230858/dicktracy/images/0/05/Movie_-_The_Brow.jpg


Tony Abbott

http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/574649.jpg

I get really suspicious when male politicians start talking about man dates given all the talk about gay rights lately.  ::)

Maqqa wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:25pm:

3 weeks ago - Shorten supported a leader who believes Labor did not have a mandate on the carbon tax

3 weeks ago - Shorten supported a leader who believes Labor did have a mandate on an ETS.

Just like the ETS John Howard wanted - until Abbott knifed his leader and ignored that mandate.

The only "mandate" Abbott will get now might be a quicky from Brough and Pyne's mate Ashby.

Rudd told 3 journalists from the Australian that he intended to remain Labor leader according to a news report I posted yesterday

Emerson's been paying out Rudd

Shorten and Alwaysleazy fancy themselves the next leaders of Labor which would be great because Labor would disappear

It's going to be fun watching Labor retards fight each other

Rudd doesn't seem prepared to vanish whilst the backstabbing  Labor midgets are vying for leader status

Popcorn

What Shorten's qualifications are, Union moron, Pants man.

Here you go.  I'll post it again.  Funny no-one here seems to want to discuss it for some reason

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/09/12/15/51/rudd-wants-to-be-pm-again-emerson


Rudd wants to be PM again says Emerson

Mandates are a political fantasy and have no basis in the Constitution or law.....In 2007 Kevin Rudd clearly won the election with a policy on carbon pricing but Abbott did not recognise his mandate.....Why should the ALP support what they consider bad policy and a Leader who has already rejected a mandate from the people.....Abbott should get no help from the ALP to implement his crap policies!!!

>:( >:( >:(

red baron wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 6:59am:

What Shorten's qualifications are, Union moron, Pants man.

and leader of the "faceless men" who back stabbed two sitting Prime Minister...

the guy is a filthy grub....  I hope he does run with the carbon tax... they'll never get elected... ever..

people have woken up to the Great Green Conjob...

It's hilarious to see and hear them.  They just don't get that the public is glad they're gone and wants to move on now

Instead, Shorten and Albo are posturing while Rudd's claiming he plans to return

Labor is irrelevant.  It seems determined to self-destruct repeatedly

Incredible to me how so many mental cases gravitated to Labor like a heap of iron filings to a magnet

Who could ever take Shorten seriously..he looks like he has a steel plate in his head and he waves his little midget arms around like a crazy person.
Fair suck of the Sav Bill..stand aside and let Albo have a go coz the whole country luvs Albo and no one likes a freak

adelcrow wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 7:35am:

Who could ever take Shorten seriously..he looks like he has a steel plate in his head and he waves his little midget arms around like a crazy person. Fair suck of the Sav Bill..stand aside and let Albo have a go coz the whole country luvs Albo and no one likes a freak

;D


Anyone want to have a stab at explaining how Shorten managed to attract any woman at all ?  It's truly mystifying

adelcrow wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 7:35am:

Who could ever take Shorten seriously..he looks like he has a steel plate in his head and he waves his little midget arms around like a crazy person. Fair suck of the Sav Bill..stand aside and let Albo have a go coz the whole country luvs Albo and no one likes a freak

wow...

that has to be the most intelligent and honest post you've ever put up on this forum..

well done crow..

we should copy his post just to prove to new people in the future that he does have a little common sense in that little noggin of his...

:)

PZ547 wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 13th, 2013 at 7:35am: Who could ever take Shorten seriously..he looks like he has a steel plate in his head and he waves his little midget arms around like a crazy person. Fair suck of the Sav Bill..stand aside and let Albo have a go coz the whole country luvs Albo and no one likes a freak ;D Anyone want to have a stab at explaining how Shorten managed to attract any woman at all ?  It's truly mystifying

There is all sorts of weird going on with Shorten so much that its hard to know where to start...
The very thought of this science experiment gone wrong representing this country on the international stage is to horrible to contemplate.

True Blue... wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 7:44am:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 13th, 2013 at 7:35am: Who could ever take Shorten seriously..he looks like he has a steel plate in his head and he waves his little midget arms around like a crazy person. Fair suck of the Sav Bill..stand aside and let Albo have a go coz the whole country luvs Albo and no one likes a freak wow... that has to be the most intelligent and honest post you've ever put up on this forum.. well done crow.. we should copy his post just to prove to new people in the future that he does have a little common sense in that little noggin of his... :)

exactly.  I just went with it rather than comment on Crow's foray into sanity, but seeing you've mentioned it, I'll join you in encouraging Crow's experiment with mental health

;D

Maqqa

Its an interesting strategy, its deliberate the ALP knows the carbon tax is on the nose but I am guessing the ALP will drop it later on if the strategy fails. What this tells me is the ALP doesn't think it will have any chance at the next election and will finally drop this theory after they lose again hoping they can win the election after the next.

If it all falls apart Shorten will not be the leader after the first election.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:50pm:

I've never understood this innane "opposition controlled senate must be a rubber stamp for the government" line. If Abbott really had a "mandate", then he would control the senate.

no one is asking for a rubber stamp.  but labor and the greens are simply obstructionist and oppose the clear will of the people.  But the people have spoken loud and clear and taken away the labor/greens capacity to block the carbon tax repeal.

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 7:18am:

Mandates are a political fantasy and have no basis in the Constitution or law.....In 2007 Kevin Rudd clearly won the election with a policy on carbon pricing but Abbott did not recognise his mandate.....Why should the ALP support what they consider bad policy and a Leader who has already rejected a mandate from the people.....Abbott should get no help from the ALP to implement his crap policies!!! >:( >:( >:(

he won the election with a mandate for his MAJOR policy ie workchoices.  ETS was a minor policy and unless you want to grant a mandate to every policy in a winning election then you have to concede that Worchoices was the mandate for 2007.

One of the most important aspects of a potential leader is trust.

Bill Shorten?

A man who cheated on his wife and said he'd support Gillard right to the moment she looked like she'd lose and then switched camps?

Give me a break. The guy is an immoral, untrustworthy dog.

Albanese on the other hand is a decent bloke.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:28pm:

Bushfires in the Blue Mountains bit early don't you think?

deliberately lit fires......even backburning went wrong...

they dont seem to learn about backburning during the windy weather do they?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 10:21am:

One of the most important aspects of a potential leader is trust. Bill Shorten? A man who cheated on his wife and said he'd support Gillard right to the moment she looked like she'd lose and then switched camps? Give me a break. The guy is an immoral, untrustworthy dog. Albanese on the other hand is a decent bloke.

you are so wrong andrei... he too is a turncoat.. wouldnt trust him as far as I could throw him.