I think it will for two main reasons:

1. Issues polling in the recent past indicates that all environment issues, including climate change, are now very much lower order priorities in the community. This is in stark contrast to what the position was 3 or 5 years ago.
This would suggest that the very reason for voting Green is now less of a priority for many people. Not for the rusted on but for maybe the 2 or 3% first time Green voters last time.

2. The association with the minority Gillard government, which was obviously increasingly  unpopular, must have some adverse effect on how people look at the Greens as a party.
In addition, there are quite a few decisions Rudd has taken which will alienate those who might have been voting Green but who will now look elsewhere rather than see their votes flow through to Labor. Very few people are savvy enough to decide their own preference flow.

I would not be surprised to see the Green vote go back some 3% from where it was last time, which is going to add to Labor's 2PP problems.

No ::)

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

I think it will for two main reasons: 1. Issues polling in the recent past indicates that all environment issues, including climate change, are now very much lower order priorities in the community. This is in stark contrast to what the position was 3 or 5 years ago. This would suggest that the very reason for voting Green is now less of a priority for many people. Not for the rusted on but for maybe the 2 or 3% first time Green voters last time. 2. The association with the minority Gillard government, which was obviously increasingly  unpopular, must have some adverse effect on how people look at the Greens as a party. In addition, there are quite a few decisions Rudd has taken which will alienate those who might have been voting Green but who will now look elsewhere rather than see their votes flow through to Labor. Very few people are savvy enough to decide their own preference flow. I would not be surprised to see the Green vote go back some 3% from where it was last time, which is going to add to Labor's 2PP problems.

At least check your facts before you write lies.
" very few people are savvy enough to decide their own preferences" LIE.
The majority of people decide their own  preferences, there was even a thread about it here last week, god you're dumb. ::)

NASA predicts 8 degrees of warming in the US by 2100
Posted on July 29, 2013      

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/29/nasa-predicts-8-degrees-of-warming-in-the-us-by-2100/


It's the long game ...

Both olds don't want to confront the sheer complexity and challenge that inaction will cost to our society and economy by not acting fast.

Short term politics is not a part of the Greens' agenda.

From the destruction of Australia by the olds, Greens will pick up the pieces.

Rudd finds CSG on mind of locals

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd told people in Lismore that 3000 frontline health worker jobs will go under Tony Abbott.

But locals at the NSW north coast town were more inflamed by another issue - coal seam gas (CSG).

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/08/19/rudd-finds-csg-mind-locals

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/08/19/rudd-finds-csg-mind-locals

CSG is another awaking giant.

Both olds ganged up and classified coal gas as a renewable and so gave CSG access to cash from the renewable energy grants, so squeezing out the renewables of the future.

The destruction of our country and our agricultural sector and fresh water via fracking will be another nail in the olds' coffins.

skippy. wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:11pm:

At least check your facts before you write lies. " very few people are savvy enough to decide their own preferences" LIE. The majority of people decide their own  preferences ...  ::)

Not in the Senate, they don't.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:25pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 2:11pm: At least check your facts before you write lies. " very few people are savvy enough to decide their own preferences" LIE. The majority of people decide their own  preferences ...  ::) Not in the Senate, they don't.

A little over 96% of voters cast above the line Senate votes at the 2010 Federal election, and that number is, if anything, only going to increase thanks to an explosion in the number of new parties since then.

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/senate-preferences-might-not/1989433/

Most people have seen how the Greens have not only screwed a government but also helped screw a great country. The greens wont be forgiven for a long time.

When the new government is form in September the Greens will have suffered such a huge battering, they will have to change their party name.

____ wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 2:25pm: skippy. wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 2:11pm: At least check your facts before you write lies. " very few people are savvy enough to decide their own preferences" LIE. The majority of people decide their own  preferences ...  ::) Not in the Senate, they don't. A little over 96% of voters cast above the line Senate votes at the 2010 Federal election, and that number is, if anything, only going to increase thanks to an explosion in the number of new parties since then. http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/senate-preferences-might-not/1989433/

Yep, people just love giving away their preferences.

Fools.

De-registered User wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:

Most people have seen how the Greens have not only screwed a government but also helped screw a great country. The greens wont be forgiven for a long time. When the new government is form in September the Greens will have suffered such a huge battering, they will have to change their party name.

How have the Greens screwed Labor or the country?

Rather that make baseless comments and run for the hills, have the guts to defend.

De-registered User wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:

Most people have seen how the Greens have not only screwed a government but also helped screw a great country.

This is still a great country.

How, exactly, has it been "screwed"?  What's changed for the worse in your life, for example?

Moreover, why do you live here if it's so bad?

____ wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

De-registered User wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Most people have seen how the Greens have not only screwed a government but also helped screw a great country. The greens wont be forgiven for a long time. When the new government is form in September the Greens will have suffered such a huge battering, they will have to change their party name. How have the Greens screwed Labor or the country? Rather that make baseless comments and run for the hills, have the guts to defend.

;D
Yep, we the people will defend this great country of mine at the next election. So stick that up your ass!

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Issues polling in the recent past indicates that all environment issues ... are now very much lower order priorities in the community. This is in stark contrast to what the position was 3 or 5 years ago.

If TRUE - that's a VERY sad day for Australia, indeed
It's certainly not something to GLOAT about

De-registered User wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:38pm:

____ wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 2:34pm: De-registered User wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Most people have seen how the Greens have not only screwed a government but also helped screw a great country. The greens wont be forgiven for a long time. When the new government is form in September the Greens will have suffered such a huge battering, they will have to change their party name. How have the Greens screwed Labor or the country? Rather that make baseless comments and run for the hills, have the guts to defend. ;D Yep, we the people will defend this great country of mine at the next election. So stick that up your ass!

Thanks for the admittance that your comments are of no substance.

De-registered User wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:38pm:

____ wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 2:34pm: De-registered User wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Most people have seen how the Greens have not only screwed a government but also helped screw a great country. The greens wont be forgiven for a long time. When the new government is form in September the Greens will have suffered such a huge battering, they will have to change their party name. How have the Greens screwed Labor or the country? Rather that make baseless comments and run for the hills, have the guts to defend. ;D Yep, we the people will defend this great country of mine at the next election. So stick that up your ass!

Ah, so it hasn't been screwed.

Glad we cleared that up.

If TRUE - that's a VERY sad reality, indeed
It's certainly not something to GLOAT about

Did I say I was gloating? I was just commenting on what I heard. It may surprise you to know that I have strong environmental views on many issues.

Incidentally, the polling I referred to had strange results in a way. People were asked to rank issues affecting Australia and the environment came way down the list as I said. Then they were asked to rank issues affecting the world and climate change came up near or at the top.

BTW has anyone here done the VoteCompass questionairre on ABC?
I did it yesterday and the end result was I was something like 67% socially conservative BUT shared about 37% views with the Greens and about 45% with the ALP. So how do you figure that?
Maybe it was the couple of glasses of Bordeaux I had with lunch.i

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:56pm:

[highlight] BTW has anyone here done the VoteCompass questionairre on ABC? I did it yesterday and the end result was I was something like 67% socially conservative BUT shared about 37% views with the Greens and about 45% with the ALP. So how do you figure that? Maybe it was the couple of glasses of Bordeaux I had with lunch.

Did it just now.

69% Green
68% ALP
45% LNP

De-registered User wrote on Aug 20^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:

Most people have seen how the Greens have not only screwed a government but also helped screw a great country. The greens wont be forgiven for a long time. When the new government is form in September the Greens will have suffered such a huge battering, they will have to change their party name.

Generation X

The only people the greens seen to appeal to are the Vespa riding inner tofu eaters.

The greens polling is on the slide and has been in the state elections.

88% Greens
60 odd Labor
38% Libs


Most of those that understated dangerous climate change as an issue at this election were Lib supporters, not Greens supporters.

Think that could be because Lib supporters don't back Lib policies like Direct Inaction, so rather understate the issue.