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Message started by Ajax on Aug 7th, 2013 at 3:34pm

Title: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by Ajax on Aug 7th, 2013 at 3:34pm
Definetly a party Australia can do without,

Bob Brown and Peter Singer wrote the book the greens,

Peter Singer in another paper he wrote argues for infanticide, doctor-assisted suicide and bestiality.

Can you believe that?

The bottom line for me is they're homosexual communists LOL.

They dont know anything about family values, economics and would place animal and plant life over human life.

We gotta get rid of them, because their idea of an Australian society is light years from what we have now in all areas, economics, ideology, morality etc etc.

Dont get fooled with their environmental agenda, its quite different to what the libs and labor believe in.

They actually see nature as some sort of goddess and worship it as such, Gaia is her name.



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In their 1996 manifesto, The Greens, Bob Brown and Peter Singer identify the origins of the Australian greens movement in two strands..............................

The modern Greens party however had an earlier origin in the green bans applied by the Builders Labourers Federation in the 1970s in New South Wales.[24] Indeed the visit to Australia by the German activist Petra Kelly in 1977 was influential in the foundation of the German Greens.[25] The then leader of the BLF, Jack Mundey, was subsequently invited to conferences in Europe and North America. Mundey, a Communist Party official and candidate, who led the militant New South Wales Builders Labourers Federation, described himself as “an ecological Marxist”.[26] Speaking years after the Communist Party folded, and a New Left party failed to gain support beyond Trotskyist and anarchist groupings, Mundey prophesied that “in the future there is a possibility of … what I’d call a Green Red future of socialism”.[27] In addition to Marx and Engels, Mundey was influenced by the overpopulation jeremiad of Paul Ehrlich.[28]...............................

The Greens operate out of a set of ideological principles and beliefs that extend beyond the warm, cuddly environmentalism they wrap themselves in.[29] While “environmentalism” lies at the core of the Greens’ ideology, their policies, if ever enacted, would radically change the economic and social culture of Australia.......................................

John Black has analysed Green voters over a series of elections. In a recent report, he categorises Green voters.[31] First, those who vote Green as their primary vote:

This is the Don’s Party group that used to be in the ALP in the sixties and seventies: young university students or graduates, frequently working or still studying in academia, no kids, often gay, arts and drama type degrees or architecture where they specialise is designing environmentally friendly suburbs, agnostic or atheist, often US or Canadian refugees from capitalism, but well paid in professional consulting or media jobs.[32]

These groups swung more heavily to the Greens in 2010:

They were led by arts, media or architectural graduate twenty-somethings, atheists and agnostics, Kiwis, the highly mobile university student groups, gays and the Green family group, which is a professional or admin consulting couple with one child attending expensive private schools.[33].............................................

Many descriptions could be applied to the Greens, but none seems more accurate than Jack Mundey’s own description of “ecological Marxism”, which sums up the two core beliefs of the Greens. First, the environment or the ecology is to be placed before all else. This is spelt out in the first principle in the Greens Global Charter, to which the Australian Greens are subscribers: “We acknowledge that human beings are part of the natural world and we respect the specific values of all forms of life, including non-human species.”[34]

Second, the Greens are Marxist in their philosophy, and display the same totalitarian tendencies of all previous forms of Marxism as a political movement. By totalitarian, I mean the subordination of the individual in the impulse to rid society of all elements that, in the eyes of the adherent, mar its perfection........................................ ....

Let me expand. According to the Greens’ ideology, human dignity is neither inherent nor absolute, but relative.[35] Humans are only one species amongst others. As Brown and Singer write: “We hold that the dominant ethic is indefensible because it focuses only on human beings and on human beings who are living now, leaving out the interests of others who are not of our species, or not of our generation.”[36] Elsewhere, they equate humans with animals:

The revolutionary element in Green ethics is its challenge to us to see ourselves in universal terms ... I must take into account the interests of others, on the same footing as my own. This is true, whether these others are Victorians or Queenslanders, Australians or Rwandans, or even the nonhuman animals whose habitat is destroyed when a forest is destroyed.[37]

What is revolutionary about this statement is not that the interests of another should be considered in an ethical judgment. Judeo-Christian belief extols consideration of others, as does Kant’s Golden Rule. Burke wrote of society being a compact across generations. What is revolutionary is the equation of humans and animals.

Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by Ajax on Aug 7th, 2013 at 3:35pm

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Peter Singer expands these notions in his other works on animal liberation. He charges that humans are guilty of “speciesism”, that is, preferring their own species over all others. It leads him to argue in favour of infanticide and doctor-assisted suicide on one hand; and bestiality on the other, provided there is mutual consent![38]

Peter Singer’s influence is evident in the Greens’ ideology. The author of a series of books, including Animal Liberation, Singer not only co-authored the Greens’ manifesto with Bob Brown, but stood as a candidate for the party in the Kooyong in 1994, and subsequently as a Senate candidate.[39]

The Green movement projects the whole planet with a spiritual dimension. The British chemist James Lovelock described the Earth as a complex living organism, of which humans are merely parts. He named this planetary organism after the Greek goddess who personified the earth—Gaia—and described “Her” as “alive”.[40]

Singer and Brown are correct to describe this as revolutionary. It involves the creation of a new pagan belief system, concerned not with the relationship between humans and a creator, but based on a deification of the environment.

For the Greens, a pristine global environment represents earthly perfection. It underpins their “ecological wisdom”[41] and is at the core of the new ethic.[42] It is to be protected and promoted at all costs. Hence, all old growth forests are to be locked up;[43] logging is to be prohibited; wealth is to be scorned;[44] economic growth is opposed;[45] exclusive ownership of property is questioned;[46] there should be a moratorium of fossil fuels exploration;[47] dam construction should be discouraged;[48] genetic engineering and agricultural monoculture is rejected;[49] world trade should be reduced;[50] and a barter economy encouraged.[51]

It explains why the Greens believe the world’s population is excessive and should be reduced,[52] and why human consumption should be cut.[53]

The Greens also call for “the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to be amended to include rights to a healthy natural environment and intergenerational rights to natural and cultural resources”.[54] In turn, the Greens would be able to rely on international courts and fora to press their agenda. It also explains their concept of “intergenerational rights”:[55] a concept squarely aimed at the defence of their belief in “Gaia”, or the perfect pristine earthly environment

Read more here

http://www.quadrant.org.au/magazine/issue/2011/1/the-greens-agenda-in-their-own-words#_ednref71

Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by BigOl64 on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:20pm


90% of Australia's voter know the greens to be nothing more than self indulgent onanists; nothing to worry about here.


They are fun to humiliate, I like having those little retards around.  ;D



Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:27pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
90% of Australia's voter know the greens to be nothing more than self indulgent onanists; nothing to worry about here.


They are fun to humiliate, I like having those little retards around.  ;D



Finally an admission:

BigOl enjoys being a troll.

You should be banned.

Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by thelastnail on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:33pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
90% of Australia's voter know the greens to be nothing more than self indulgent onanists; nothing to worry about here.


They are fun to humiliate, I like having those little retards around.  ;D


which jet engines did you say you worked on ?

Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by BigOl64 on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:39pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
90% of Australia's voter know the greens to be nothing more than self indulgent onanists; nothing to worry about here.


They are fun to humiliate, I like having those little retards around.  ;D


which jet engines did you say you worked on ?



Hey dipsh1t.  ;D

I didn't say I was an jet engine technician, that is something you made up.

Now what aircraft did you work on, what company did you work for and were you a LAME or an AME or neither (which is what I suspect)


Come on tell us the truth, you were a refueller or baggage handler weren't you?




Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by BigOl64 on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
90% of Australia's voter know the greens to be nothing more than self indulgent onanists; nothing to worry about here.


They are fun to humiliate, I like having those little retards around.  ;D



Finally an admission:

BigOl enjoys being a troll.

You should be banned.



What 'finally an admission', I love humiliating greens supporters, because they are too stupid to realise how fvcken stupid the greens policies are.


Being honest with a moron is not trolling, it's helping, which is what I try to do for you too.  ;D


And stop being a little b1tch and grow a set.



Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:46pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
90% of Australia's voter know the greens to be nothing more than self indulgent onanists; nothing to worry about here.


They are fun to humiliate, I like having those little retards around.  ;D



Finally an admission:

BigOl enjoys being a troll.

You should be banned.



What 'finally an admission', I love humiliating greens supporters, because they are too stupid to realise how fvcken stupid the greens policies are.


Being honest with a moron is not trolling, it's helping, which is what I try to do for you too.  ;D


And stop being a little b1tch and grow a set.



It's not your fault BigOl,
you were picked on in the RAF:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAZI4ydY6R8

Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by BigOl64 on Aug 7th, 2013 at 5:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
90% of Australia's voter know the greens to be nothing more than self indulgent onanists; nothing to worry about here.


They are fun to humiliate, I like having those little retards around.  ;D



Finally an admission:

BigOl enjoys being a troll.

You should be banned.



What 'finally an admission', I love humiliating greens supporters, because they are too stupid to realise how fvcken stupid the greens policies are.


Being honest with a moron is not trolling, it's helping, which is what I try to do for you too.  ;D


And stop being a little b1tch and grow a set.



It's not your fault BigOl,
you were picked on in the RAF:



I was not 'picked' on in the RAF, I was never a member of the RAF so they had no reason to 'pick' on me.



As for my time in the RAAF, the sh1t and bastardisation I copped was normal for an airman during that time, no biggie. Just can't be a weak little b1tch that's all.





Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by Ajax on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:25pm
hey muso

just in case you missed it.....!!!

have read about the green movement...... :D ;D :-*

Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by Chimp_Logic on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:38pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
90% of Australia's voter know the greens to be nothing more than self indulgent onanists; nothing to worry about here.


They are fun to humiliate, I like having those little retards around.  ;D


by that reasoning, 97% of Australians believe that Palmer United Party voters are also retards

and of course there is the party you support - One Nation

TOTAL retard territory there isn't it  BigOl64 you putrid clown freak maggot

Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by Dnarever on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:47pm
We always need a valid third option in Australia - at the moment the Greens perform that function.

It is true that the Democrats were doing a good job of providing this function from a more central position which is preferable till they committed political suicide over the GST where they went from keeping the bstrds honest to the bstds who needed to be kept honest.

Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by Chimp_Logic on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:54pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:47pm:
We always need a valid third option in Australia - at the moment the Greens perform that function.

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that is only because the two major parties are ideologically indistinguishable

Since the 1960s, the Liberal party and the ALP have voted together on 95% of the legislation and bills to be presented to the Senate.

Both parties are corporately owned and don't represent the general population

And when I say CORPORATELY owned I mean foreign corporation.

This nation we all live in is pathetic to say the least

Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by Ajax on Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:00pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:47pm:
We always need a valid third option in Australia - at the moment the Greens perform that function.

.


that is only because the two major parties are ideologically indistinguishable

Since the 1960s, the Liberal party and the ALP have voted together on 95% of the legislation and bills to be presented to the Senate.

Both parties are corporately owned and don't represent the general population

And when I say CORPORATELY owned I mean foreign corporation.

This nation we all live in is pathetic to say the least



HHmmmmnnn......some common ground........!!!!!!


Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by Chimp_Logic on Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:11pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:00pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:47pm:
We always need a valid third option in Australia - at the moment the Greens perform that function.

.


that is only because the two major parties are ideologically indistinguishable

Since the 1960s, the Liberal party and the ALP have voted together on 95% of the legislation and bills to be presented to the Senate.

Both parties are corporately owned and don't represent the general population

And when I say CORPORATELY owned I mean foreign corporation.

This nation we all live in is pathetic to say the least



HHmmmmnnn......some common ground........!!!!!!



just common sense (like AGW)



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Title: Re: The Greens a party Australia can do without
Post by muso on Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:28pm
The Greens in Australia have a lot to answer for. They have muddied the name of environmentalism by taking an extreme Left Wing position and putting undue emphasis on non issues such as the decriminalisation of marijuana.

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