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Message started by Sprintcyclist on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:38pm

Title: craig thompson
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:38pm

'member the bloke gillard/rudd supported completely


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FORMER Labor MP Craig Thomson will avoid facing a jury on charges of misappropriating union funds to pay for perks including adult movies and escort services, after his lawyer stated there was likely to be little debate about the facts of the case.
Mr Thomson, who is running for re-election in his NSW federal seat of Dobell as an independent, today won his application to have the 173 charges heard by a Melbourne magistrate instead of proceeding to a judge and jury.

Making the application, Mr Thomson's barrister Greg James QC said it was "very likely" there would be no issues about the facts of the expenditure, and the case instead related to whether Mr Thomson had authority for the spending as HSU national secretary.

"These are not complex charges," Mr James said.

Mr Thomson is accused of falsely representing that the HSU had authorised thousands of dollars of credit card spending, including payment for escorts and cash withdrawals from bank accounts, and using union credit cards to pay for pornographic movies at hotels.

...He has repeatedly denied using Health Services Union credit cards to pay for escorts.

Prosecutor Kieran Gilligan told the Melbourne Magistrates Court that Mr Thomson had aggravated his alleged offending by attempting to "disguise" the spending, had breached the trust of members, and continued using the cards for personal purchases approximately 10 times after he was elected to parliament."It's alleged cash withdrawals were never approved as a legitimate union expense," he said.

"It was never part of the union policy that cash withdrawals could be made at all."
The charges include theft, obtaining property by deception and obtaining a financial advantage by deception.

In a statement released after his court appearance, Mr Thomson said he was happy with magistrate Charlie Rozencwajg's decision to hear the case alone.

"The reason for the application was to have this matter heard as quickly as possible," he said.

"Despite some media reports, I am not making any admissions. But there is a threshold issue of who had authority to use the credit card, which must be heard first.

"This is an efficient use of court time and because of my limited personal resources, also an appropriate approach.

"If the Crown cannot prove its case on this issue, all other charges become null and void."

Mr Rozencwajg's decision to hear the case will mean a swifter conclusion and a lesser penalty if Mr Thomson is found guilty.

Mr Rozencwajg said he did not regard the case as a complex one, with or without a concession that Mr Thomson had used the credit cards as alleged.

Mr Thomson faces a maximum penalty of five years imprisonment if found guilty.

The case will return to court for a special mention on August 16.

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by Karnal on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:42pm
I think he's an immigrant, Sprint. Like JuLiar. Like Mr Abbott.

Are these people our own kind?

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by adelcrow on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:43pm
THOMMO needs to go the way of Jewliar and Wendy..

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by Aussie on Jul 19th, 2013 at 4:07pm
I'm not sure Mr Cyclist understands that the decision he is referring to is a procedural win for Thomson.  His fate will not be determined in the likely politically biased environment of a Jury Room, and if he is convicted, the maximum is limited to five years.

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jul 19th, 2013 at 4:51pm
He is going to dig another hole for him self not denying he used the card. Misleading parliament is an issue he will have to face

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by salad in on Jul 19th, 2013 at 4:57pm
This is big news for OP's Wild One. The Wild One was running interference for the Brothel Inspector. Hey Wild One, how's that fund raising to help the Brothel Inspector going?

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:15pm
176 charges


and he had juliars support...which mean he had this govts support...

ripping off the little people.. its definitely a labor thing.. just read NSWInc..ICAC

he may not have a jury but the real jury is out there...in Australia.

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:17pm

salad in wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 4:57pm:
This is big news for OP's Wild One. The Wild One was running interference for the Brothel Inspector. [highlight]Hey Wild One, how's that fund raising to help the Brothel Inspector going?

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hilarious I see where the streaker is also looking for donations..

it must be a new thing.. for idiots and thieves..

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:53pm
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Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by MOTR on Jul 20th, 2013 at 7:54am

Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 4:07pm:
I'm not sure Mr Cyclist understands that the decision he is referring to is a procedural win for Thomson.  His fate will not be determined in the likely politically biased environment of a Jury Room, and if he is convicted, the maximum is limited to five years.


First step towards a fair trial and justice.

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by cods on Jul 20th, 2013 at 8:02am

MOTR wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 7:54am:

Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 4:07pm:
I'm not sure Mr Cyclist understands that the decision he is referring to is a procedural win for Thomson.  His fate will not be determined in the likely politically biased environment of a Jury Room, and if he is convicted, the maximum is limited to five years.


First step towards a fair trial and justice.




why do I get the feeling you will be so happy if he is found not guilty and then sues the HSU for millions and wins...

honestly I cant believe the police and even Fairwork have spent all these years on 176 [list still growing]charges...and they have made them all up...

but thats what I see you are hoping for..

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by MOTR on Jul 20th, 2013 at 8:28am

cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 8:02am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 7:54am:

Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 4:07pm:
I'm not sure Mr Cyclist understands that the decision he is referring to is a procedural win for Thomson.  His fate will not be determined in the likely politically biased environment of a Jury Room, and if he is convicted, the maximum is limited to five years.


First step towards a fair trial and justice.




why do I get the feeling you will be so happy if he is found not guilty and then sues the HSU for millions and wins...

honestly I cant believe the police and even Fairwork have spent all these years on 176 [list still growing]charges...and they have made them all up...

but thats what I see you are hoping for..


Wrong. What I'm hoping for is a fair trial. If he is guilty I hope he gets the full five years.

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by the wise one on Jul 20th, 2013 at 8:35am

salad in wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 4:57pm:
This is big news for OP's Wild One. The Wild One was running interference for the Brothel Inspector. Hey Wild One, how's that fund raising to help the Brothel Inspector going?



dickhead that fund is for investigate what went on in the Slipper/Ashby case.

If you want to donate to it here is the link and if you want to read what they are up to click here

At the moment they have over $53,000 in trust, so it going all right

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by cods on Jul 20th, 2013 at 8:44am

MOTR wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 8:28am:

cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 8:02am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 7:54am:

Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 4:07pm:
I'm not sure Mr Cyclist understands that the decision he is referring to is a procedural win for Thomson.  His fate will not be determined in the likely politically biased environment of a Jury Room, and if he is convicted, the maximum is limited to five years.


First step towards a fair trial and justice.




why do I get the feeling you will be so happy if he is found not guilty and then sues the HSU for millions and wins...

honestly I cant believe the police and even Fairwork have spent all these years on 176 [list still growing]charges...and they have made them all up...

but thats what I see you are hoping for..


Wrong. What I'm hoping for is a fair trial. If he is guilty I hope he gets the full five years.




are you suggesting a jury would not be fair???


what a terrible thing to say..

but I guess you think Justice Rares was fair
in his summing up of Ashby??...LOL>.

of course.

but THOMO deserves a FAIR trial more than Ashby doesnt he??..

who knows maybe THOMO will get to pick his own magistrate,.

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by cods on Jul 20th, 2013 at 8:48am

John S wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 8:35am:

salad in wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 4:57pm:
This is big news for OP's Wild One. The Wild One was running interference for the Brothel Inspector. Hey Wild One, how's that fund raising to help the Brothel Inspector going?



dickhead that fund is for investigate what went on in the Slipper/Ashby case.

If you want to donate to it here is the link and if you want to read what they are up to click here

At the moment they have over $53,000 in trust, so it going all right




WRONG... THOMO has his own fund raiser as well...all donations gladly received..

do they pay Tax on this money btw???.. or is it all gifted to pollies..

who is the $53000 for wiseone???..

I understand the long suffering taxpayer is fronting for slipper...

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by cods on Jul 20th, 2013 at 8:50am
Thomson Fundraiser Postponed
Posted: July 3, 2013 in HSU Saga, Politics      
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Breaking News

Tomorrows fundraiser for Craig Thomson has been postponed.

Below is the media release in full.

Good afternoon

As you know, a fund-raiser event for my legal defence fund had been scheduled for this Thursday 4 July. Following requests from two of the speakers, I have now re-scheduled the event for Thursday 25 July.

The venue and time are unchanged:
6.30pm, 25 July 2013
City Tattersalls Club
194/196-204 Pitt St
Sydney NSW 2000
Many thanks
Craig Thomson

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Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by Aussie on Jul 20th, 2013 at 11:57am

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but I guess you think Justice Rares was fair
in his summing up of Ashby??.


I certainly do, having carefully read his analytical and forensic decision.  Have you read it cods?  If you have, would you please point out which parts were unfair, and explain why?

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by alp4eva on Jul 20th, 2013 at 12:58pm
Wasnt Rares the one who got a secret briefing from Roxon and then let Slipper in through the back door to the courts against protocol?

No, nothing strange in that is there.

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by Aussie on Jul 20th, 2013 at 1:17pm

alp4eva wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 12:58pm:
Wasnt Rares the one who got a secret briefing from Roxon and then let Slipper in through the back door to the courts against protocol?

No, nothing strange in that is there.



Got any links to back that up?

Title: Re: craig thompson
Post by rabbitoh07 on Jul 20th, 2013 at 1:23pm

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:15pm:
176 charges


and he had juliars support...which mean he had this govts support...

Are you aware that he was expelled from the ALP?

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:15pm:
ripping off the little people.. its definitely a labor thing.. just read NSWInc..ICAC

he may not have a jury but the real jury is out there...in Australia.

Yes - Thommo will have his day in Court, and we will see what happens.

How about Brough though?  He is still wanting to represent the Liberal Party in our Parliament - and he has already had his day in Court.  We know what he is like:

The ruling of Federal Court judge Steven Rares - who yesterday threw out the case, accusing Ashby of hatching a "political attack" with Brough to "advance the interests of the LNP and Mr Brough"
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/lnp-brough-and-tumble/story-e6frg6z6-1226535675296

And this is the sort of bloke that gets the support of the bloke that wants to be the PM!!!!

Mind you - Tony isn't too fussy about this sort of stuff, is he:

Despite not having read the judgment, Mr Abbott said he was confident Mr Brough - who is the LNP candidate in Fisher - had acted "rightly at all times".
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbott-hasnt-read-slipper-judgment-but-stands-by-brough-20121219-2blw7.html#ixzz2ZYJXa9kC

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