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A 15-year-old Australian imprisoned in a notorious Ethiopian federal jail for shooting his niece in the neck was initially forced to share a cell with international criminals and drug traffickers, according to his lawyer. The teenager, Obsa Paulos Gudina, is now in his third, and "cleanest" cell in Kaliti prison since his arrest in April 16, lawyer Taffesse Gebremedhin has told Fairfax Media. Mr Gebremedhin said that despite third-world prison conditions and an initial period of depression, Obsa Paulos Gudina is coping better since his change to a cleaner, less crowded cell. "I had an extended conversation with him [on Thursday]... He's healthy looking. He looks nice, he's happy," he said. Advertisement Mr Gebremedhin said that Obsa was first placed in a "big cell... with over 300 prisoners, many of them arrested in connection with drugs". "It was terrible... many prisoners suffer suffocation [due to the] lack of ventilation. He was depressed... not healthy looking, [and] not really in a stable condition," Mr Gebremedhin said. "This is not a developed nation, and prisons are overcrowded, and minimum standards are not satisfied." After seeing Obsa and noting his cell conditions, Mr Gebremedhin and the Australian deputy head of mission and counsellor, John Newman, lodged a complaint with the prison administration to have Obsa moved to a better cell. "They [the prison administration] gave consideration to Obsa's circumstances, and moved him to another room, which was cleaner," Mr Gebremedhin said. Obsa's current prison conditions are tolerable, Mr Gebremedhin said, and despite "a lot of limitations", Obsa's hygiene conditions are "relatively OK". "He has access to a bathroom... He said they even provided him with a mattress," Mr Gebremedhin said. "[But] there is no library facility, no place for him to read a book." Obsa spent the first month of his incarceration at the main police station in Ethiopia's capital, Addis Ababa, waiting for the prosecutor to gather information about the incident. After a month, Obsa was charged with intentional homicide, and moved to the infamous Kaliti prison, on the outskirts of Addis Ababa. After the charge, he appeared before the federal court, where he was denied bail by the presiding judge due to the serious nature of his charge. While Mr Gebremedhin said that no physical harm was done to Obsa in the all-adult jail, "he was not happy" at the time. "He was depressed... not healthy looking, [and] not really in a stable condition," Mr Gebremedhin said. The lawyer said adults and minors are often placed together in the same jail cells in Ethiopia, despite a person under the age of 18 being legally considered a minor. "There is no separate prison for minors and adults. Minors between the ages of 15 and 18 are required to stay in a separate place, but there is no such place for them," he said. Mr Gebremedhin indicated to the teen's mother, Tsehai Atomsa, that legal fees will be approximately $A10,000. Heidi Zwick from the New Hope Foundation said the family has very limited financial resources, "as Tsehai lives in public housing and is on a disability support payment". Ms Atomsa told Fairfax Media on Friday that she is grateful for the local support she has received. "Australian people have helped us with everything," she said.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/melbourne-boy-at-risk-in-notorious-ethiopian-prison-20130719-2q8pi.html

what a waste of our money they are.

http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/strive/they-came-they-conquered-20130419-2i4wf.html

sprint learnt to highlight :)  Well done sprint!

____ wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 1:31pm:

http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/strive/they-came-they-conquered-20130419-2i4wf.html

A piddly little sketch from the Silly Morning Herald is your argument?

Anyway, that's negligible number considering that 25% of the population is overseas born.
Just saying.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 1:13pm:

Quote: A 15-year-old Australian imprisoned in a notorious Ethiopian federal jail for shooting his niece in the neck was initially forced to share a cell with international criminals and drug traffickers, according to his lawyer. The teenager, Obsa Paulos Gudina, is now in his third, and "cleanest" cell in Kaliti prison since his arrest in April 16, lawyer Taffesse Gebremedhin has told Fairfax Media. Mr Gebremedhin said that despite third-world prison conditions and an initial period of depression, Obsa Paulos Gudina is coping better since his change to a cleaner, less crowded cell. "I had an extended conversation with him [on Thursday]... He's healthy looking. He looks nice, he's happy," he said. Advertisement Mr Gebremedhin said that Obsa was first placed in a "big cell... with over 300 prisoners, many of them arrested in connection with drugs". "It was terrible... many prisoners suffer suffocation [due to the] lack of ventilation. He was depressed... not healthy looking, [and] not really in a stable condition," Mr Gebremedhin said. "This is not a developed nation, and prisons are overcrowded, and minimum standards are not satisfied." After seeing Obsa and noting his cell conditions, Mr Gebremedhin and the Australian deputy head of mission and counsellor, John Newman, lodged a complaint with the prison administration to have Obsa moved to a better cell. "They [the prison administration] gave consideration to Obsa's circumstances, and moved him to another room, which was cleaner," Mr Gebremedhin said. Obsa's current prison conditions are tolerable, Mr Gebremedhin said, and despite "a lot of limitations", Obsa's hygiene conditions are "relatively OK". "He has access to a bathroom... He said they even provided him with a mattress," Mr Gebremedhin said. "[But] there is no library facility, no place for him to read a book." Obsa spent the first month of his incarceration at the main police station in Ethiopia's capital, Addis Ababa, waiting for the prosecutor to gather information about the incident. After a month, Obsa was charged with intentional homicide, and moved to the infamous Kaliti prison, on the outskirts of Addis Ababa. After the charge, he appeared before the federal court, where he was denied bail by the presiding judge due to the serious nature of his charge. While Mr Gebremedhin said that no physical harm was done to Obsa in the all-adult jail, "he was not happy" at the time. "He was depressed... not healthy looking, [and] not really in a stable condition," Mr Gebremedhin said. The lawyer said adults and minors are often placed together in the same jail cells in Ethiopia, despite a person under the age of 18 being legally considered a minor. "There is no separate prison for minors and adults. Minors between the ages of 15 and 18 are required to stay in a separate place, but there is no such place for them," he said. Mr Gebremedhin indicated to the teen's mother, Tsehai Atomsa, that legal fees will be approximately $A10,000. Heidi Zwick from the New Hope Foundation said the family has very limited financial resources, "as Tsehai lives in public housing and is on a disability support payment". Ms Atomsa told Fairfax Media on Friday that she is grateful for the local support she has received. "Australian people have helped us with everything," she said. http://www.theage.com.au/national/melbourne-boy-at-risk-in-notorious-ethiopian-prison-20130719-2q8pi.html what a waste of our money they are.

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That is exactly the type of refugee the lefties are looking for, the more the better.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 1:32pm:

sprint learnt to highlight :)  Well done sprint!

thanks.
It was something I learnt while NOT shooting anyone in the neck in a loser country.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 1:13pm:

[quote] what a waste of our money they are.

What? Australian citizens?

Is there something I've missed here? The article says the kid's Australian.

What happened to protecting our own kind?

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:13pm: [quote] what a waste of our money they are. What? Australian citizens? Is there something I've missed here? The article says the kid's Australian. What happened to protecting our own kind?

Obsa Paulos Gudina


Now there's an Aussie name for you.

He's about as Australian as I am a fking Kraut.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 2:48pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:13pm: [quote] what a waste of our money they are. What? Australian citizens? Is there something I've missed here? The article says the kid's Australian. What happened to protecting our own kind? Obsa Paulos Gudina Now there's an Aussie name for you. He's about as Australian as I am a fking Kraut.

Andrei Hicks - now there's an Aussie name for you.

Soren wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:22pm:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:31pm: http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/strive/they-came-they-conquered-20130419-2i4wf.html A piddly little sketch from the Silly Morning Herald is your argument? Anyway, that's negligible number considering that 25% of the population is overseas born. Just saying.

Not arguing with you, I am laughing at you.

Soren wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:22pm:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:31pm: http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/strive/they-came-they-conquered-20130419-2i4wf.html A piddly little sketch from the Silly Morning Herald is your argument? Anyway, that's negligible number considering that 25% of the population is overseas born. Just saying.

Exactly. I'd be evicting everyone who comes from overseas, Soren. Not Australian, you see.

We need to look after our own kind.

Krauts, Yarpies, the lot. That is exactly the type of refugee the lefties are looking for, Soren.

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:13pm: [quote] what a waste of our money they are. What? Australian citizens? Is there something I've missed here? The article says the kid's Australian. What happened to protecting our own kind?

he is not my kind.
http://images.theage.com.au/2013/07/18/4581931/art-obsa-2-620x349.jpg

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 2:48pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:13pm: [quote] what a waste of our money they are. What? Australian citizens? Is there something I've missed here? The article says the kid's Australian. What happened to protecting our own kind? he is not my kind. http://images.theage.com.au/2013/07/18/4581931/art-obsa-2-620x349.jpg

Yes, you said that, Sprint. Looks like you're posting a picture of his Australian passport though.

Thoughts?

Quote:

,........the teen's mother, Tsehai Atomsa........

is not an australian name either.
She is one welfare and we are paying her housing.
Now we are paying for her som who 'allegedly' murdered his neice when in ethiopia.
I assume they are from there. send them back there.

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 2:55pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 2:48pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:13pm: [quote] what a waste of our money they are. What? Australian citizens? Is there something I've missed here? The article says the kid's Australian. What happened to protecting our own kind? Obsa Paulos Gudina Now there's an Aussie name for you. He's about as Australian as I am a fking Kraut. Andrei Hicks - now there's an Aussie name for you.

Interesting question from our cafa hating brother Andrei has raised here.

What is an "Australian Name", and does qualification into the set of acceptable australian names override any more formal Australian qualifications like citizenship or residency. ?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:41pm:

Quote: ,........the teen's mother, Tsehai Atomsa........ is not an australian name either. She is one welfare and we are paying her housing. Now we are paying for her som who 'allegedly' murdered his neice when in ethiopia. I assume they are from there. send them back there.

Where are you from, Sprint?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:41pm:

send them back there.

Send them back LOL, the lefties would lie on the runway and prevent his planes take off if they had to, they love scum like this, just look at Britain its choka block full of front bottoms like this, the left fight practically to the death to stop terrorists being deported let alone murderers and rapists, you won't hear them say a bad word about this scumbag either, the left are deranged  :D

Innocent bystander wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:52pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:41pm: send them back there. Send them back LOL, the lefties would lie on the runway and prevent his planes take off if they had to, they love scum like this, just look at Britain its choka block full of front bottoms like this, the left fight practically to the death to stop terrorists being deported let alone murderers and rapists, you won't hear them say a bad word about this scumbag either, the left are deranged  :D

Which part upsets you about front bottoms like this, Innocent? His mother's public housing, his name, or the fact that he shot someone in the neck?

Hey, Innocent, I think you'll find Chopper Reid has a similar profile.

Is he our own kind?

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:25pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 2:48pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:13pm: [quote] what a waste of our money they are. What? Australian citizens? Is there something I've missed here? The article says the kid's Australian. What happened to protecting our own kind? he is not my kind. http://images.theage.com.au/2013/07/18/4581931/art-obsa-2-620x349.jpg Yes, you said that, Sprint. Looks like you're posting a picture of his Australian passport though. Thoughts?

Yes I have some thoughts.

"A dog born in a stable is not a horse"
Duke of Wellington.


Have a look at him. He is no Aussie.

Innocent bystander wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:52pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:41pm: send them back there. Send them back LOL, the lefties would lie on the runway and prevent his planes take off if they had to, they love scum like this, just look at Britain its choka block full of front bottoms like this, the left fight practically to the death to stop terrorists being deported let alone murderers and rapists, you won't hear them say a bad word about this scumbag either, the left are deranged  :D

Walk around parts of south London and you won't see a white face anymore.

Soon Bradford and Leicester will have more coloured voters than British voters.

What has become of parts of Britain is heart-breaking.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 1:13pm:

[quote] A 15-year-old Australian imprisoned in a notorious Ethiopian federal jail for shooting his niece in the neck was initially forced to share a cell with international criminals and drug traffickers, according to his lawyer. [...]

How disgusting. I'll bet the odd fine defaulter is in the same prison and may even share the same cell. What is happening; criminals in prison brushing up against other crims. I'll bet they had to observe 'lights out' at 9pm as well. Let's take to the streets and protest.

London is a thousand times better now that it was 50 years ago.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 5:03pm:

What has become of parts of Britain is heart-breaking.

Not to the left it isn't, to the left its a glorious sight, all they need now is the afternoon stoning of the adultress whore in the public square and their world will be complete.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 5:10pm:

London is a thousand times better now that it was 50 years ago.

Do you base that on the fact that clitorectomys have increased 1000% ?

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:59pm:

Which part upsets you about front bottoms like this, Innocent? His mother's public housing, his name, or the fact that he shot someone in the neck?

Actually he isn't even the real problem in all of this ... you are, who can blame the dregs of the planet for wanting to come here, get on centrelink then lead a life of crime, sh#t its completely normal for one set of people to want to take over another, whats not f#ckin normal is the people being taken over assisting in their own demise  :D

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 5:03pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:52pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:41pm: send them back there. Send them back LOL, the lefties would lie on the runway and prevent his planes take off if they had to, they love scum like this, just look at Britain its choka block full of front bottoms like this, the left fight practically to the death to stop terrorists being deported let alone murderers and rapists, you won't hear them say a bad word about this scumbag either, the left are deranged  :D Walk around parts of south London and you won't see a white face anymore. Soon Bradford and Leicester will have more coloured voters than British voters. What has become of parts of Britain is heart-breaking.

Chockers with South Ifrikaan boers?

Afrikaners are probably the only good thing about the entire continent of Africa.

Hard working, industrious and hard edged with a solid focus on what they want to achieve.

That's how they were able to build a great nation.

"Stole it? We never stole a thing. We never stole this country, we built it man"
Jimmy Kruger, Minister of Police 1977.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 5:10pm:

London is a thousand times better now that it was 50 years ago.

Bollocks.
The post war London had a camaraderie and a British never-say-die spirit.

Now too many parts are home to the Mohammeds and Mustafas who do nothing for our country but bring it down with their filthy, downtrodden customs and unwanted ethics.

Innocent bystander wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 5:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:59pm: Which part upsets you about front bottoms like this, Innocent? His mother's public housing, his name, or the fact that he shot someone in the neck? Actually he isn't even the real problem in all of this ... you are, who can blame the dregs of the planet for wanting to come here, get on centrelink then lead a life of crime, sh#t its completely normal for one set of people to want to take over another, whats not f#ckin normal is the people being taken over assisting in their own demise  :D

Moi? But, Innocent, I’m our own kind.

Still, what makes you think dregs like thiscame here? How do you know that he wasn’t, you know - born here?

And how do you know that he’s actually, you know - guilty as charged?

I know, I know, you’ve seen his passport photo. He has to be guilty.

Chopper Reid pleaded self defence. He got off.

Is he our own kind?

Hang on, before I jump to any conclusions, where were you born, Innocent?

Sprint’s not saying.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 5:51pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:10pm: London is a thousand times better now that it was 50 years ago. Bollocks. The post war London had a camaraderie and a British never-say-die spirit.

That’s right, Andrei. Rationing, strikes, warm beer, and the ten pound pom scheme. Those were the days.

You could buy a cup of tea for a tuppence.

Nothing like Aparteid Johannesburg though, eh?

Memories.

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 6:25pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:40pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:59pm: Which part upsets you about front bottoms like this, Innocent? His mother's public housing, his name, or the fact that he shot someone in the neck? Actually he isn't even the real problem in all of this ... you are, who can blame the dregs of the planet for wanting to come here, get on centrelink then lead a life of crime, sh#t its completely normal for one set of people to want to take over another, whats not f#ckin normal is the people being taken over assisting in their own demise  :D Moi? But, Innocent, I’m our own kind. Still, what makes you think dregs like thiscame here? How do you know that he wasn’t, you know - born here? And how do you know that he’s actually, you know - guilty as charged? I know, I know, you’ve seen his passport photo. He has to be guilty. Chopper Reid pleaded self defence. He got off. Is he our own kind? Hang on, before I jump to any conclusions, where were you born, Innocent? Sprint’s not saying.

Just more excuses, when you come across a f#ckin scumbag you don't make excuses you just hope that he dissapears one way or another, well you do if you are a normal person anyway, if you are a lefty you do all you possibly can to ensure that the front bottom can make more victims. 

I agree, Innocent. If you come across a dodgy passport photo, you just hope they disappear one way or another.

Preferably slowly. Well, any normal person does, anyway.

Trust the leftards to make excuses about things like innocent until proven guilty, the detention of minors, in the world’s worst adult prisons, the notion of a fair trial in a country like Ethiopia. Trust some leftard organization to actually send someone like that food and a list of lawyers.

Typical.

Er, you didn’t disclose your background, Innocent. I haven’t seen your passport photo yet.

Are you our own kind?

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 6:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:51pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:10pm: London is a thousand times better now that it was 50 years ago. Bollocks. The post war London had a camaraderie and a British never-say-die spirit. That’s right, Andrei. Rationing, strikes, warm beer, and the ten pound pom scheme. Those were the days. You could buy a cup of tea for a tuppence. Nothing like Aparteid Johannesburg though, eh? Memories.

Well.....

Unemployment

South Africa 1980 - 9.22%
South Africa 2013 - 25.74%


Violence & Crime

Since the fall of Apartheid, recorded violent crime has increased by 33%.
Police capture rates have fallen by 18%.


Recorded murders in Johannesburg 1980 - 2.4 per night

Recorded murders in Johannesburg 2002 - 14.6 per night


Karnal, if you want to go off topic at least be correct.

Apartheid Johannesburg was both a safer and more affluent place than today.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 5:02pm:

Yes I have some thoughts. "A dog born in a stable is not a horse" Duke of Wellington. Have a look at him. He is no Aussie.

"A Pom born in Australia is not necessarily an Aussie."
"What Makes an Aussie" Author Unknown 1956.

Have a look at him. He is no Aussie.

;)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 6:31pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:51pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:10pm: London is a thousand times better now that it was 50 years ago. Bollocks. The post war London had a camaraderie and a British never-say-die spirit. That’s right, Andrei. Rationing, strikes, warm beer, and the ten pound pom scheme. Those were the days. You could buy a cup of tea for a tuppence. Nothing like Aparteid Johannesburg though, eh? Memories. Well..... Unemployment South Africa 1980 - 9.22% South Africa 2013 - 25.74% Violence & Crime Since the fall of Apartheid, recorded violent crime has increased by 33%. Police capture rates have fallen by 18%. Recorded murders in Johannesburg 1980 - 2.4 per night Recorded murders in Johannesburg 2002 - 14.6 per n

Sure, but who’s getting killed? The blecks, right?

I thought you supported this!

Lobo wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:06pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:02pm: Yes I have some thoughts. "A dog born in a stable is not a horse" Duke of Wellington. Have a look at him. He is no Aussie. "A Pom born in Australia is not necessarily an Aussie." "What Makes an Aussie" Author Unknown 1956. Have a look at him. He is no Aussie. ;)

Neither’s Innocent Bystander. I’ve got my doubts about him.

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:25pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 2:48pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:13pm: [quote] what a waste of our money they are. What? Australian citizens? Is there something I've missed here? The article says the kid's Australian. What happened to protecting our own kind? he is not my kind. http://images.theage.com.au/2013/07/18/4581931/art-obsa-2-620x349.jpg Yes, you said that, Sprint. Looks like you're posting a picture of his Australian passport though. Thoughts?

Is that why it has "federal democratic republic of ethiopia" printed on it?

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 5:10pm:

London is a thousand times better now that it was 50 years ago.

How old are you bro?

... wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:27pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:25pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 2:48pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:13pm: [quote] what a waste of our money they are. What? Australian citizens? Is there something I've missed here? The article says the kid's Australian. What happened to protecting our own kind? he is not my kind. http://images.theage.com.au/2013/07/18/4581931/art-obsa-2-620x349.jpg Yes, you said that, Sprint. Looks like you're posting a picture of his Australian passport though. Thoughts? Is that why it has "federal democratic republic of ethiopia" printed on it?

no, his visa says 'federal democratic republic of Ethiopia'.... I'm guessing he would have need of that visa only if his passport wasn't Ethiopian. After all, I know I've never needed a visa to enter Australia.

If you look closer, under Nat. (nationality) it says 'Aus'

Hey karnal.  John Smith says to tell you it's a visa, not a passport.

... wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 11:03pm:

Hey karnal.  John Smith says to tell you it's a visa, not a passport.

Yeah - read the nationality typed on the visa.

They stick the visa in the passport - have a look next time you go to Rotto.

looks pakistani to me.

you changed your post.  I was leading in to that joke too.

Quote:

Why we should take in NO poor immigrants?

Because they are like Tony Montana:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DYb7Kmy-x8

... wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 11:10pm:

you changed your post.  I was leading in to that joke too.

Yes, I tend to do that. Cunning. Shifty.

Do you have a passport, Honky?

Andrei, the patriot, let his expire.

He’s an international jetsetting accountant. He travels business class, drinks Starbucks by the extra large cup, and throws his change at the bums.

But he’s too tight to fork out two hundred for an Australian passport.  He thinks "we" charge too much and should give people like "him" a special deal.

Funny thing is, Andrei actually DOES come from Africa.

I've got an EU passport but I'm not even Euean.

Me too, and I’m a PB.

I come from Melbourne you Fking clown!!!!!

My mother is Afrkaner. Not me.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 1:03am:

I come from Melbourne you Fking clown!!!!! My mother is Afrkaner. Not me.

Ethiopian, is she?

That’d be right. We know the type.

Certainly not our kind.

The racists on this forum make me sick. Some teenager playing with a gun accidentally kills his young relative in a tragic accident, and you are trying to make some sick twisted political mileage out of it?

Imagine how the kid feels. You do realise that he is human being with feelings right?

Your lack of empathy suggests a psychopathic tendency.


Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:41pm:

is not an australian name either.

What is an Australian name?

Mr Yunupingu passed away recently, he had a real Australian name. I wonder if you have the mental capacity to understand that.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 1:03am:

I come from Melbourne you Fking clown!!!!! My mother is Afrkaner. Not me.

You are not australian. you said so. You gave up being aussie to be a yank or something,.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

True Colours wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 1:21am:

The racists on this forum make me sick. Some teenager playing with a gun accidentally kills his young relative in a tragic accident, and you are trying to make some sick twisted political mileage out of it? Imagine how the kid feels. You do realise that he is human being with feelings right? Your lack of empathy suggests a psychopathic tendency. Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 3:41pm: is not an australian name either. What is an Australian name? Mr Yunupingu passed away recently, he had a real Australian name. I wonder if you have the mental capacity to understand that.

The obvious indian accent i talked to @ support yesterday was named chelsea jones.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

You don't give up being an Aussie.

You either are or you aren't.

The reason Border Control keep holding me up is because I am Aussie but don't enter on an AU passport.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:45am:

You don't give up being an Aussie. You either are or you aren't. The reason Border Control keep holding me up is because I am Aussie but don't enter on an AU passport.

Probably the passport photo and the name, Andrei Hicks.They think you’re not their kind.

That Afrikaans passport wouldn’t help either, Andrei.

The kid in Ethiopia - does he give up being Australian?

The kid in Ethiopia is not an Aussie whereas you and I are as Australian as each other with the same rights, history and loyalty to it.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:56am:

The kid in Ethiopia is not an Aussie whereas you and I are as Australian as each other with the same rights, history and loyalty to it.

So why is an Australian kid in Ethiopia less Australian and with less rights, history and loyalty than you?

He lives here and has a passport. You?

Looks like he has an African mother too. You?

No, Andrei, given the passport issue, I’d say that kid has a few more rights than you.

5 out of every Australians don't have a passport.

Passport has no effect on how Aussie you are.

In fact many people with Australian passports are fking born overseas who came as migrants, who by definition are less Aussie than us who were born here!

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 1:18pm:

5 out of every Australians don't have a passport. Passport has no effect on how Aussie you are. In fact many people with Australian passports are fking born overseas who came as migrants, who by definition are less Aussie than us who were born here!

5 out of every Australians?

Now that’s some statistic.

How many Australians actually make Australia their home?

Karnal wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 1:18pm: 5 out of every Australians don't have a passport. Passport has no effect on how Aussie you are. In fact many people with Australian passports are fking born overseas who came as migrants, who by definition are less Aussie than us who were born here! 5 out of every Australians? Now that’s some statistic.

Yes.  Me and the other 4 get together regularly for "We Don't Have A Passport" parties.
Catering is very easy.

Do you invite those asylum seekers who don’t have passports, Andrei, or do you exclude the rubbish people?

None of my in laws in Townsville, and there are a lot of them, hold or have ever had a passport.
They are infinitely more Australian than these naturalised lot from Asia or Africa - who carry Aussie passports.

Passports are not a measure of belonging.

I feel loyal to Australia but travel the world on a UK passport.

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 9:24pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 6:31pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:51pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:10pm: London is a thousand times better now that it was 50 years ago. Bollocks. The post war London had a camaraderie and a British never-say-die spirit. That’s right, Andrei. Rationing, strikes, warm beer, and the ten pound pom scheme. Those were the days. You could buy a cup of tea for a tuppence. Nothing like Aparteid Johannesburg though, eh? Memories. Well..... Unemployment South Africa 1980 - 9.22% South Africa 2013 - 25.74% Violence & Crime Since the fall of Apartheid, recorded violent crime has increased by 33%. Police capture rates have fallen by 18%. Recorded murders in Johannesburg 1980 - 2.4 per night Recorded murders in Johannesburg 2002 - 14.6 per n Sure, but who’s getting killed? The blecks, right? I thought you supported this!

You'll find there were explanations for all of the dealths in that period...

;D  ;D  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLJSz-wzOHI

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There is no legal basis to exclude refugees and asylum seekers because they are poor...that is a criminal assertion...socialism is the answer to right wing fascism...  8-)

corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 12:19pm:

There is no legal basis to exclude refugees and asylum seekers because they are poor...that is a criminal assertion...socialism is the answer to right wing fascism...  8-)

Andrei will agree with you on that one, Whitey. He's had quite a turnaround of late.

Refugees are no longer rubbish people. They are now desperate people escaping persecution who need our care and support.

corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 12:19pm:

There is no legal basis to exclude refugees and asylum seekers because they are poor...that is a criminal assertion...socialism is the answer to right wing fascism...  8-)

socialism is losersville.
No wonder socialists have a hardon for illegals.
but of course, socialists don't pay for them. Just invite them over, then raise taxes on workers for the illegals bedding, toothpaste, doctors visits, legal representation and 'net access.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 1:15pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 23rd, 2013 at 12:19pm: There is no legal basis to exclude refugees and asylum seekers because they are poor...that is a criminal assertion...socialism is the answer to right wing fascism...  8-) socialism is losersville. No wonder socialists have a hardon for illegals. but of course, socialists don't pay for them. Just invite them over, then raise taxes on workers for the illegals bedding, toothpaste, doctors visits, legal representation and 'net access.

Sprint, you've started a thread about why we should take in NO poor immigrants.

You still haven't answered the question about where you're from.

Thoughts?

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 1:23pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23rd, 2013 at 1:15pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 23rd, 2013 at 12:19pm: There is no legal basis to exclude refugees and asylum seekers because they are poor...that is a criminal assertion...socialism is the answer to right wing fascism...  8-) socialism is losersville. No wonder socialists have a hardon for illegals. but of course, socialists don't pay for them. Just invite them over, then raise taxes on workers for the illegals bedding, toothpaste, doctors visits, legal representation and 'net access. Sprint, you've started a thread about why we should take in NO poor immigrants. You still haven't answered the question about where you're from. Thoughts?

I did not see the question.
I am originally from Kiwiland.

What fallacy or retarded sarcastic comnment do you want to add ?