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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1372756578 Message started by salad in on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:16pm |
Title: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by salad in on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:16pm Quote:
Thank G*d he doesn't live in Sydney's Western Suburbs otherwise he'd be accused by ALP acolytes of living in a McMansion leading a shallow life and only concerned with interests rates. Thank you dear Lord. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by dsmithy70 on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:28pm salad in wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:16pm:
Tony lives in Macquarie Fields not the Northern beaches? http://www.aussie.com.au/mortgage-broker/property-market-news-analysis/northern-beaches-spirals-to-1-million.htm Quote:
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Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:39pm salad in wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:16pm:
his wife is a multi millionaire ... are you surprised he owns expensive property? |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Armchair_Politician on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:46pm John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:39pm:
I'm not surprised. I believe the Rudd's made their fortune prior to him moving into politics and good on them. They've obviously made some good choices and if they're smart enough to make the money, then so what? This isn't news. Turnbull is in the same boat, being financially well-off. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:48pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:46pm:
I thought it was due mainly to his wife business acumen .... she's owns (or did own, not sure which) one of the countries largest recruitment firms |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Armchair_Politician on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:56pm John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:48pm:
True, but whatever the method they've used to accrue such an impressive property portfolio, good on them. I'm sure some of Kevin's parliamentary salary has gone toward it, but I doubt it's the main source. Kevin and Therese have nothing to be embarrassed about - good on them. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by skippy. on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:04pm
Yea well to use a capitalist analogy Rudd is a success and phoney tony a real plodder,at best. Phoney tony is late fifties still has a huge mortgage that he had to increase when he lost government last time because he couldn't " afford to live on his salary as an opposition member" against Rudd who has been successful for a man around the same age. Who would you want in charge of your finances A success or a plodder that battles to get by?
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Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Armchair_Politician on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:15pm skippy. wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:04pm:
Good grief, you are a nasty piece of work aren't you? Different circumstances, different lifestyles, different choices. Ask both men if they're happy with the way their families are provided for and I bet they'll both say "yes" and rightly so. As long as their families are happy, who gives a stuff what you think, loser? |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:18pm skippy. wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:04pm:
A grammatical and punctuation nightmare. Are you still in grade 3? |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by skippy. on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:23pm
Lol yea when you have no argument pull the punctuation card, I accept your surrender, loser. ;D ::)
I expected no less from armpit. Who wouldn't expect the office girl of phoney Tony to defend his less than impressive achievements. ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28pm skippy. wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:04pm:
I might take this to class and get my students to correct it as a grammatical and punctuation exercise. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Armchair_Politician on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:29pm Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28pm:
To be fair, a Grade 3 kid could do at least a little better than that... |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by skippy. on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:54pm
I'm shattered. :'(
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Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by skippy. on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:58pm
How dare anyone highlight the fact Phoney Tony whined he couldn't get by on an opposition members salary. Hey armpit?
:D :D |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:21pm skippy. wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:58pm:
you should know by now Skip that never a bad word can be said about Abbott. Off with your head. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by dsmithy70 on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:27pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:56pm:
Well done AP ;) |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:29pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:27pm:
I'll say, I was pleasantly surprised . Not what I expected from AP ... and then he did it again on this thread http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1372726944/75 reply 77 maybe there is hope for you AP. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Spot of Borg on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:56am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28pm:
Do it. Then they can learn something the media didn't tell them. SOB |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Generation X on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:23am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:18pm:
No gramma police in this forum thank you. Everyone has right to voice their opinion without being ridiculed by pompous spelling Nazi's like yourself. AGAIN! This is a political forum not a gramma, punctuation or spelling contest, take your crap elsewhere. You do know what can be done to internet bullies these days, it might for pay you to find out and I'm sure next time you'll have second thoughts before imposing your self thought superiority. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Spot of Borg on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:30am De-registered User wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:23am:
My gramma spells just fine thanks. SOB |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Generation X on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:35am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28pm:
I hope not, are you not the reason so many Australian taxpayers will be out of pocket due to teachers not pulling there weight even though they accept a considerably high wage. Gonski comes to mind. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:46am De-registered User wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:23am:
I'll make comments I see fit, thank you, unless the moderators think other wise. I can see why pointing out grammar and punctuation errors gets you worked up; you have a similar issue yourself. Gramma is spelt grammar. An apostrophe is used in the possessive case, and not in the descriptive case. Hence, it is "Nazis" and not "Nazi's". You also need to use a semi-colon to join clauses together when there is no conjunction. The sentence "This is a political forum not a gramma, punctuation or spelling contest, take your crap elsewhere" needs either a conjunction after "contest" or a semi-colon. It is a similar case with this sentence: "You do know what can be done to internet bullies these days, it might for pay you to find out and I'm sure next time you'll have second thoughts before imposing your self thought superiority". A semi-colon is required after "days", or use a full stop and begin a new sentence with "it". |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:47am De-registered User wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:35am:
I do not care much at all for Gonski. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:48am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:46am:
get a life |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:51am John Smith wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:48am:
Even though "get a life" is a fragment and not a sentence, you still need to use a capital letter and a full stop. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Generation X on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:53am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:46am:
Another self righteous dirt bag from the Whirlpool forum, they should be banned |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:00am De-registered User wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:53am:
Naughty. You're still missing the rule of a semi-colon when a conjunction is absent. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:02am
It should be:
Another self-righteous dirt bag from the Whirlpool forum; they should be banned. Or: Another self-righteous dirt bag from the Whirlpool forum. They should be banned. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:35am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:51am:
get a life |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:37am
I thought "progressives" were meant to be intellectually superior? How can you claim to be superior when you cannot grasp the basics of grammar and punctuation?
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Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:40am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:37am:
you think you can put a label on someone and that will then determine how they are supposed to respond? like I said earlier (you seem to have trouble with this very simple concept) GET A LIFE |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:45am John Smith wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:40am:
Often labels are very accurate. I think you all have been caught out as below par here. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:50am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:45am:
I think you have been caught out as an idiot ....... If all you can do is critique someone's grammar, you need to get a life ... its really quite simple |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:57am
I take pleasure in my job. I also take pleasure in catching out "intellectually superior" progressives.
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Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:01am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:57am:
So you should take pleasure in your job, if it makes you happy to show the kiddies how smart you are, go for it, someone has to do it .... it is not, however, your job to try and correct everyone's grammar on a internet forum .... if I want your opinion on my grammar I'll ask for it, otherwise stick to the topic being discussed and as far as somebody having an 'intellectual superiority complex', I'd say that would describe you to a T. After all, I'm not the one commenting on anyone else's intellectual abilities |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:06am John Smith wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:01am:
Unless the moderators deem otherwise, I'll say what I want, thank you. And yes, I do consider myself superior to you and the other "progressives" here. I have no hesitation in thinking and saying that. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:13am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:06am:
you do understand what a hypocrite is don't you? you accuse others of thinking they are intellectually superior, even though you think you are ... I'll tell you what I think, I think you are an insecure little toad who likes to bully the kids at school with your big red biro, and now you've discovered that you can do it on the internet too ... you relish in it, all to make up for the fact that you are dysfunctional in all the other aspects of your life. I've also got another theory, you aren't as intellectually superior as you like to think you are, if you were you would be able to make a valid argument on the topic being discussed WITHOUT having to resort to correcting everyone's grammar. Correcting grammar is your default position, when you don't know what to say, lets try correct grammar .... it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic like I've said repeatedly, get a life |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:24am John Smith wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:13am:
Thank you for your abuse and emotional outburst. I can see I've got you on the ropes now. There's no hypocrisy in my position. I am not saying people can't claim they are intellectually superior; I am pointing out "progressives" are not as superior as think they are. See the difference? |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by skippy. on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:24am
LOL, Ubermenstrater can not debate the argument so she resorts to grammar lessons. Typical conga line strategy. ::)
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Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by bigvicfella on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:30am skippy. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:24am:
Lives in KAL EE FORN YA, has a british education, drives a yank tank and is an accountant? Le sock du jour? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:43am skippy. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:24am:
I have no problem with Rudd buying expensive houses. It's probably not a good look when he's supposed to be the "people's politician". But, meh. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by bigvicfella on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:45am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:43am:
I guess Rudd and his Wife can afford expensive houses, after all, she must have made a motza from all the contracts awarded to her company by the previous Liberal Government. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by alevine on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:47am salad in wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:16pm:
So what? |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by alevine on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:48am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:06am:
Social evolution would prove you wrong as conservatives within a social evolutionary context are a dying breed. :) |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by skippy. on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:52am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:43am:
But you went off on a little tangent because I dared to mention phoney Tony could not live on his salary and he was a plodder at best. Do keep up, sweet thing. ::) anyway I have a policy of ignoring trolling sox. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:52am sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:48am:
That's called the appeal to popularity fallacy. Just because something becomes popular, does not make it right. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by alevine on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:57am Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:52am:
No its just common sense. Simply put, societies like all other things evolve. And given conservatives are intent on sticking their heads into sand rather than embrace change they must be the inferior being. :) |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:08pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:57am:
Riddled with fallacies and unproven assertions. "Common sense", hey? Some mass murdering leaders were pretty popular too; does that make them attuned to "common sense"? "Embracing change" is a vague term and can mean and justify anything. How about we "embrace change" on locking up all progressives? Additionally, you're confusing evolutionary theory with progressive morality and value judgements. Evolutionary theory is about passing on genes; nothing more. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by alevine on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:18pm Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:08pm:
Misty, you know its rude changing your nick when you get banned for insulting others. Shame. Anyway, I'd suggest you do some extra reading on evolutionary theories and how they impact our social structures, and perhaps then you'll understand how any person who still believes in superiority of one human race over another cannot possibly be superior themselves. ;) |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:22pm
Your last sentence is not clear. Please write with clarity and precision. Thank you.
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Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by alevine on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:24pm Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:22pm:
Its okay misty, you can run along now :) thank you. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by skippy. on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:24pm Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:22pm:
It was his first sentence the mods are interested in. ;D see ya. ;D |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by alevine on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:26pm skippy. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:24pm:
My last sentence makes perfect sense too. And if misty was superior surely they'd be able to understand rather than do a quick runner. ;) |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:29pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:26pm:
It is important to understand what your interlocutor is saying before passing judgement. Hence, why I asked for clarification. You are probably unaware, but hermeneutics and analysis involves correctly understanding what is written. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by alevine on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:32pm Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:29pm:
I'm saying, in very laments terms for you : 1. Do more reading on evolutionary theories. 2. A white supremist in today's modern age cannot possibly be superior. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:36pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:32pm:
1. I am only aware of evolutionary theory in terms of passing on genes and the various strategies taken to achieve this. "Progressive" morality has little to do with evolutionary theory. 2. I've never advocated white supremacy in a biological sense. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by alevine on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:39pm Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:36pm:
Well I suggest you read up on social evolutionary theory, which is often used to explain how social structures change,and it has nothing to do with progressive morality. II'm not going to go through all your past posts mist but you'll forgive me if that's my impression of you after having countless enjoyable debates with you :) |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:42pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:39pm:
Can you give me the name of an author that writes about "social evolutionary theory"? |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by alevine on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:51pm Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:42pm:
Google Jared diamond as example, or you can also Google "social evolution books" :) |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by John Smith on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:08pm Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:24am:
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Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by Socrates on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:19pm skippy. wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:04pm:
Roosh1te, don't you mean his wife is a success and he merely rides on her back. I also understand that she was in fact in partnership with another women who was in fact a former nun and who was the mainstay of the recruitment business. She unfortunately passed away and left her share of the business to her family. The KRudds went to Court and managed to take over all of the business including her late partner's share, therefore everything isn't really as it seems, is it? |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by salad in on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:32pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:47am:
Don't stop there, keep it going. The whole point of this topic has something to do with a political party lashing anyone who has done well in life. Keep expanding on that theme and see where it takes you. A rough analogy would be a person who detests large savage dogs but turns around and buys an alsatian. |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by alevine on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:38pm salad in wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:32pm:
1. class warfare exists on both sides of politics. 2. I don't see Rudd whining like a rabid swine about losing middle class wealthfare and at the same time owning his numerous number of properties. Perhaps he should be used as an example for the rest who pretend that they are on struggle street themselves, earning 2-3 times the average Australian's wage? |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by iceyone on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:31pm
Stop using class warfare - typical LNP supporters who are jealous of another persons success.
So he has millions and a few properties - it shows he doesn't have to be in politics. If we compare his position to Tony's - Tony has a big mortgage - why this would mean he was in deficit by about 300%. He can't run a country if he can't manage his won finances! :) |
Title: Re: Kevin Rudd lives on Struggle Street. Post by adelcrow on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:33pm
Wealthy people should always be in the Coalition so its a tad confusing for the neo cons when a wealthy person believes in social justice.
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