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EXCLUSIVE: Tony Abbott is now more popular as leader among women voters than Julia Gillard.

The surprise result is revealed in an exclusive 7News-ReachTel poll, that comes months after the Prime Minister labelled him a misogynist.

It was the speech heard around the world;

"I will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by this man. I will not," the Prime Minister shouted in Parliament back in October last year.

It was seen as a rallying cry to women voters, and at first it seemed to work.

A Neilsen poll a fortnight later showed a spike in support for Julia Gillard among women; 53 percent to Tony Abbott's 38, and leading 48-42 among men.

But the 7News-ReachTel poll taken last weekend shows that trend has now reversed.

Tony Abbott now leads among women voters 52-48, and he's way ahead, 62-38, among men.

"Very importantly and more so for women, people want to see what sort of values, what sort of support base is behind the leader," John Howard's former adviser Grahame Morris said.

Liberal strategists have been softening Mr Abbott's image with women.

His chief of staff, Peta Credlin, has spoken of his support for her IVF treatment.

While, wife Margie and daughters Frances and Brigette have given interviews rejecting the misogynist tag.

Our poll puts Labor's primary vote on 31, the Coalition on 46, and a landslide 57-43 lead after preferences in line with other major polls.

And Julia Gillard's not just losing on personality. More worryingly for Labor, the poll also shows, she's losing on policy.

Forty-three percent oppose the superannuation changes targeting the rich, just 33 percent support them.

And the Coalition's NBN policy seems to have neutralised broadband, with 46 percent supporting Labor's version, and 40 percent supporting the Coalition's.

"About the only thing left for the Labor Party to try is a real hysterical attack on Tony Abbott," Grahame Morris said.

Do women love misogynists or they just saw through Gillard's pig face?

Makka wrote on Apr 16^th, 2013 at 7:48pm:

Do women love misogynists or they just saw through Gillard's pig face?

Maybe it's a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils. Julia has cut support for single mothers. Contrary to what Julia  said about Tony, Tony is not misogynist. He may have proposed policies that make life harder for women, but now Julia has joined the club.

Hard to get too excited considering we are not told the size of the poll.

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Legal papers have been served on Opposition Leader Tony Abbott by the co-founder of the now-defunct One Nation party. David Ettridge is suing for $1.5 million, accusing Mr Abbott of acting unlawfully in 1998 by assisting and encouraging litigation against One Nation that led to the party being deregistered.

Oh happy day!

I hope Abbott gets taken to the laundry. Held by his ankles and shaken down for all he's got. Even loses his budgie smugglers to David Ettridge.

Doubtless, Ettridge has received legal advice that he has a good chance of winning.

This should be interesting. If things get messy, Malcolm Turnbull will seize his chance to do a Brutus on Abbott.

Makka wrote on Apr 16^th, 2013 at 7:48pm:

Do women love misogynists or they just saw through Gillard's pig face?

People are just easily fooled.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 16^th, 2013 at 8:59pm:

Quote: Legal papers have been served on Opposition Leader Tony Abbott by the co-founder of the now-defunct One Nation party. David Ettridge is suing for $1.5 million, accusing Mr Abbott of acting unlawfully in 1998 by assisting and encouraging litigation against One Nation that led to the party being deregistered. Oh happy day! I hope Abbott gets taken to the laundry. Held by his ankles and shaken down for all he's got. Even loses his budgie smugglers to David Ettridge. Doubtless, Ettridge has received legal advice that he has a good chance of winning. This should be interesting. If things get messy, Malcolm Turnbull will seize his chance to do a Brutus on Abbott.

I wonder why Maqqa didn't start a thread about that  .... he's such a fan of copy pasting news stories, I would have thought that with Abbott featuring so heavily in this one it would have been a sure thing on Maqqa's list of threads to start .


oh wait, I know why, he hasn't figured out a way to make it look bad towards labor yet, but not to worry, he will come up with something .

Mnemonic wrote on Apr 16^th, 2013 at 8:22pm:

Makka wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 7:48pm: Do women love misogynists or they just saw through Gillard's pig face? Maybe it's a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils. Julia has cut support for single mothers. Contrary to what Julia  said about Tony, Tony is not misogynist. He may have proposed policies that make life harder for women, but now Julia has joined the club.

Anyone that thinks Abbott is the lesser of two evils between him and anyone else in parliament is a certified retard.

Women just saw through Gillard's pig face. They hate nothing more than a woman using feminazi tactics against a decent man.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 16^th, 2013 at 8:59pm:

Quote: Legal papers have been served on Opposition Leader Tony Abbott by the co-founder of the now-defunct One Nation party. David Ettridge is suing for $1.5 million, accusing Mr Abbott of acting unlawfully in 1998 by assisting and encouraging litigation against One Nation that led to the party being deregistered. Oh happy day! I hope Abbott gets taken to the laundry. Held by his ankles and shaken down for all he's got. Even loses his budgie smugglers to David Ettridge. Doubtless, Ettridge has received legal advice that he has a good chance of winning. This should be interesting. If things get messy, Malcolm Turnbull will seize his chance to do a Brutus on Abbott.

David Ettridge, The Evil Twisted ego that ruined the One Nation party as we knew it.

____ wrote on Apr 16^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

Hard to get too excited considering we are not told the size of the poll.

I don't recall you ever having asked the size of a poll when the Greens vote goes up by 1pt...

skippy. wrote on Apr 16^th, 2013 at 9:03pm:

Mnemonic wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 8:22pm: Makka wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 7:48pm: Do women love misogynists or they just saw through Gillard's pig face? Maybe it's a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils. Julia has cut support for single mothers. Contrary to what Julia  said about Tony, Tony is not misogynist. He may have proposed policies that make life harder for women, but now Julia has joined the club. Anyone that thinks Abbott is the lesser of two evils between him and anyone else in parliament is a certified retard.

I guess that makes you an uncertified retard if you think he's a lesser person than Gillard...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 6:27am:

____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 8:24pm: Hard to get too excited considering we are not told the size of the poll. I don't recall you ever having asked the size of a poll when the Greens vote goes up by 1pt...

That is because I check myself.
Checking this poll, the size is not revealed.

____ wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 6:42am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 6:27am: ____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 8:24pm: Hard to get too excited considering we are not told the size of the poll. I don't recall you ever having asked the size of a poll when the Greens vote goes up by 1pt... That is because I check myself. Checking this poll, the size is not revealed.

Uh-huh...  ::)

Makka

While its a dodgy straw poll the underlying trend from other polls suggest its not a gender issue but more a competence issue for Gillard. Most in modern Australia would not have a gender issue with a competent PM, but the see an incompetent PM as being desperate pulling out the gender card, she started it.

Gillard has tried to create many phoney wars, one of them was the phoney gender war, when Abbott attacks Gillard, he is highlighting he lack of competence. Her attack is hypocritical as this is standard practice for an opposition leader to do, why would it be different for a female PM ? If you treated her differently to a male PM then that would be sexist. Most intelligent people know some media spin idiot probably from the UK ran a focus group and advise Gillard to run with this rant she did on Abbott. While Abbott can be clumsy with his words, many now see how phoney Gillard is, no doubt both males and females. There is no gender issue except in Gillard's tiny mind.

More women supports Abbott

If true, I wonder if the psychology relates the reasons that many Women tend to stay with abusive partners.

Mnemonic

It was a phoney attack on Abbott, when they asked the hand bag brigade members to define what he dit to warrant the attack, the best they could dig up was mild chauvinistic comments he made.

Gillard has tried many different strategies, she tried about 3-4 during the short 2010 campaign that all flopped and nearly handed the PM'ship to an apparently unelectable Abbott. She has gone on to prove what a fruitloop she is and she needs to go, and now more than ever many are prepared to tolerate Abbott to get rid of her. I often wonder if the Libs put forward an inspirational leader would the ALP vote go sub 20% primary ? It must be a scary concept that an apparently out of control apparently misogynist like Abbott cab beat the ALP down to below 30% primary. We never saw such a low number for the ALP under Howard who is regarded as one of the best Libs leader.

Dnarever

Care to point out where Abbott has been abusive to women ?

Strong words can you back it up ?
The handbag squad could not come up with anything on this phoney attack.

Greens_Win

Yes it is about the same size as many other polls and yes ones that show the greens vote going up and down.
I prefer to look at the direct and its been down across the broad for Gillard and down for her party.

Your ignorance is stunning, if you understood stats this is a single poll that more or less says there is no gender issue, given the fact that she has persisted with her misogyny which worked for about a week and now has died out pretty much means she needs to do some more bs focus groups and spin doctoring to find yet another way to attack Abbott. Northing personal there at all  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ?

RightSadFred wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 7:20am:

Dnarever Care to point out where Abbott has been abusive to women ? Strong words can you back it up ? The handbag squad could not come up with anything on this phoney attack.

I didn't say he had been new incarnation of fred.

My point was about the psychology of making decision not in their best interests.

However there was the incident of the punch and he did got to court over the assault of a woman.

He has over his political life consistently opposed the majority view on about all woman’s issues even though he is now trying to re write his history.

Tony Abbott as PM is not a position likely to help with the issues affecting women.

Dnarever

Your using big words like abusive yet your chicken little on detail

Alleged incident that was never mentioned in the left wing uni rags at the time about 30 years ago ?

Why do we need a male feminist PM ? We have a female one which is dragging back such issues to the 1970's in her misguided pointless gender attacks that are baseless ?

This poll and many other polls on Gillard suggest her personal attack strategy has failed.

Many people who were initially inspired by seeing our first female PM are now very disappointed in her...... this includes males and females, as these polls are now showing.

I think its unfortunate that she had to become PM by back stabbing and its more unfortunate she has presided over the most incompetent government I have ever seen and I go back pre Whitlam.

RightSadFred wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 7:48am:

Dnarever Your using big words like abusive yet your chicken little on detail Alleged incident that was never mentioned in the left wing uni rags at the time about 30 years ago ? Why do we need a male feminist PM ? We have a female one which is dragging back such issues to the 1970's in her misguided pointless gender attacks that are baseless ? This poll and many other polls on Gillard suggest her personal attack strategy has failed. Many people who were initially inspired by seeing our first female PM are now very disappointed in her...... this includes males and females, as these polls are now showing. I think its unfortunate that she had to become PM by back stabbing and its more unfortunate she has presided over the most incompetent government I have ever seen and I go back pre Whitlam.

Alleged incident that was never mentioned in the left wing uni rags at the time about 30 years ago ?

There is absolutely no doubt that it happened.

Your using big words like abusive yet your chicken little on detail

Once again I didn't say that he had been abusive, I compared the psychology of women voting for Abbott to the fact that many woman stay with abusive partners.

You specifically asked about Abbott being abusive to Woman which had nothing to do with what I was saying but yes there does seem to be a history clearly there are incidents on record in this regard.

RightSadFred wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 7:26am:

Greens_Win Yes it is about the same size as many other polls and yes ones that show the greens vote going up and down. I prefer to look at the direct and its been down across the broad for Gillard and down for her party. Your ignorance is stunning, if you understood stats this is a single poll that more or less says there is no gender issue, given the fact that she has persisted with her misogyny which worked for about a week and now has died out pretty much means she needs to do some more bs focus groups and spin doctoring to find yet another way to attack Abbott. Northing personal there at all  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ?

So you know the size of this poll ~ like to share it with us.

Abbott having issues with women, i.e RU486, has been obvious and Gillard attempting to politically cash in on this was a poor move on her part. At the very least she has been consistant (bad moves ~ ALP taking sole parent payments away, which the majority were women).

I would suggest women be aware of Abbott's plan for industrial relations considering one of the hardest hit under Howard's workchoices was casual workers, which women were/are the majority.

RightSadFred wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 7:48am:

Dnarever This poll and many other polls on Gillard suggest her personal attack strategy has failed.

Yet the Abbott personal attack strategy has been a huge success. Suppose the difference is if the media gets behind you or not.

RightSadFred wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 7:48am:

its more unfortunate she has presided over the most incompetent government I have ever seen and I go back pre Whitlam.

If you believe the Media and opposition. Looking at the actual facts the government have been OK - not great but not terrible either.  Hey they havn't illegally invaded anyone.

Looking at the current opposition I doubt that I have ever seen a group less likely to be a success than this mob. It starts with a leader who probably can't spell economy and goes quickly downhill from there.

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Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has described a lawsuit filed against him as "payback" for his role in attacking the One Nation party. One Nation co-founder David Ettridge is suing Mr Abbott in the Queensland Supreme Court for $1.5 million.

"Payback" ~ ? Damn right it's payback. I hope the court takes the shirt off his back, and lets the budgie go free.

Who the hell did Abbott think he was? Who appointed him to conduct an Inquisition on the leaders of a democratically elected party?

If Abbott gets T-boned with a leadership spill just before the election - with Turnbull taking his place - I'll go dance in the street while ululating and handing out lollies to the children - just like they did in Sydney's Auburn when the Twin Towers got hit.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 7:31am:

RightSadFred wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 7:20am: Dnarever Care to point out where Abbott has been abusive to women ? Strong words can you back it up ? The handbag squad could not come up with anything on this phoney attack. I didn't say he had been new incarnation of fred. My point was about the psychology of making decision not in their best interests. However there was the incident of the punch and he did got to court over the assault of a woman. He has over his political life consistently opposed the majority view on about all woman’s issues even though he is now trying to re write his history. Tony Abbott as PM is not a position likely to help with the issues affecting women.

You are basing his culpability on the fact that it went to court?

All matters can go to court - even malicious claims

The courts decide if he's guilty based on evidence

This was dismissed ie the evidence was soooo weak that it didn't even make a smudge

____ wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 6:42am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 6:27am: ____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 8:24pm: Hard to get too excited considering we are not told the size of the poll. I don't recall you ever having asked the size of a poll when the Greens vote goes up by 1pt... That is because I check myself. Checking this poll, the size is not revealed.

not that facts make any difference to you anyhow. you are the numbskull that is predicting a hung parliament next election and that labor would win the last state election.

only SOB comes near you for stupity in political predictions.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

____ wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 6:42am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 6:27am: ____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 8:24pm: Hard to get too excited considering we are not told the size of the poll. I don't recall you ever having asked the size of a poll when the Greens vote goes up by 1pt... That is because I check myself. Checking this poll, the size is not revealed. not that facts make any difference to you anyhow. you are the numbskull that is predicting a hung parliament next election and that labor would win the last state election. only SOB comes near you for stupity in political predictions.

Links?

____ wrote on Apr 17^th, 2013 at 5:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 4:27pm: ____ wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 6:42am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 6:27am: ____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 8:24pm: Hard to get too excited considering we are not told the size of the poll. I don't recall you ever having asked the size of a poll when the Greens vote goes up by 1pt... That is because I check myself. Checking this poll, the size is not revealed. not that facts make any difference to you anyhow. you are the numbskull that is predicting a hung parliament next election and that labor would win the last state election. only SOB comes near you for stupity in political predictions. Links?

nearly every thread u enter. let's face it green_snot. every political prediction you have ever made has failed by a light year. even now you cant bring yourself to admit that Abbott will win in a landslide.