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Message started by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am

Title: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am
The commissions "Angry Summer" report

Does this look like an angry summer


With the graph above, how do these waste of my tax money, get to make a statement like below


Quote:
Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change


Why do we need government department of scaremongering.

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/thou-shall-not-critique-australian.html

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:11am
poll

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:54am
It's the second thing Abbott plans to do in his first week as PM in September - after abolishing the carbon dioxide tax that no one wants.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:02am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:54am:
It's the second thing Abbott plans to do in his first week as PM in September - after abolishing the carbon dioxide tax that no one wants.

I can live with that, I could also live with gillard doing it today.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Dnarever on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:37am
You seem to have a chart describing 2011 data for normalised losses (insurence) when commenting on comments made about 2013 environment conditions???

The most reliable measure?????

I have I nice chart about tooth paste usage if you would like a copy? It has blue and purple bars???

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by KJT1981 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:42am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:37am:
You seem to have a chart describing 2011 data for normalised losses (insurence) when commenting on comments made about 2013 environment conditions???

The most reliable measure?????

I have I nice chart about tooth paste usage if you would like a copy? It has blue and purple bars???



You sure it was your knee you claim to have damaged playing "footy"?

I am thinking  major head trauma.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:58am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:37am:
You seem to have a chart describing 2011 data for normalised losses (insurence) when commenting on comments made about 2013 environment conditions???

The most reliable measure?????

I have I nice chart about tooth paste usage if you would like a copy? It has blue and purple bars???

A little help for you. It goes to 2012. 2013 summer has not arrived yet, either has 2013 christmas, but we live in hope.

Also, remember back at school and see how the numbers go up by 3.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:05am
One thing i notice with all these debates about climate change is the beneficial choice on temperatures, Before the whole climate change conspiracy started those who did study climate seen warmer periods as beneficial. Why on earth would want to make earth cooler? less plants will grow, less food will be produced and the ability of our planet to support life would reduce.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:22am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:37am:
You seem to have a chart describing 2011 data for normalised losses (insurence) when commenting on comments made about 2013 environment conditions???

The most reliable measure?????

I have I nice chart about tooth paste usage if you would like a copy? It has blue and purple bars???


Have another look and this time put your glasses on.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Dnarever on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:24am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:22am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:37am:
You seem to have a chart describing 2011 data for normalised losses (insurence) when commenting on comments made about 2013 environment conditions???

The most reliable measure?????

I have I nice chart about tooth paste usage if you would like a copy? It has blue and purple bars???


Have another look and this time put your glasses on.



Its 9:24 am

It may go up to first quarter of 2012 but it is a measure of nothing much.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:55am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:24am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:22am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:37am:
You seem to have a chart describing 2011 data for normalised losses (insurence) when commenting on comments made about 2013 environment conditions???

The most reliable measure?????

I have I nice chart about tooth paste usage if you would like a copy? It has blue and purple bars???


Have another look and this time put your glasses on.



Its 9:24 am

It may go up to first quarter of 2012 but it is a measure of nothing much.


Certainly nothing much to support the Climate Commissions scaremongering anyhow.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Maqqa on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:18am
Noted and on the list of things to repeal

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Doctor Jolly on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:48am

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am:
The commissions "Angry Summer" report

Does this look like an angry summer


With the graph above, how do these waste of my tax money, get to make a statement like below


Quote:
Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change


Why do we need government department of scaremongering.

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/thou-shall-not-critique-australian.html



Your link is a rambling piece of fluff where the premise seems to be more concerned with someone getting their nose out of joint, than actually looking at the facts.

$1b and counting of losses is bad enough for this year.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:10am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:48am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am:
The commissions "Angry Summer" report

Does this look like an angry summer


With the graph above, how do these waste of my tax money, get to make a statement like below


Quote:
Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change


Why do we need government department of scaremongering.

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/thou-shall-not-critique-australian.html



Your link is a rambling piece of fluff where the premise seems to be more concerned with someone getting their nose out of joint, than actually looking at the facts.

$1b and counting of losses is bad enough for this year.

Your rambling piece of fluff is just that, than actually looking at the facts of the link.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Doctor Jolly on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:16am

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:10am:
Your rambling piece of fluff is just that, than actually looking at the facts of the link.


I interpret those fact as climate change in action.

Please tell me how you cannot see that ?


Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:20am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:16am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:10am:
Your rambling piece of fluff is just that, than actually looking at the facts of the link.


I interpret those fact as climate change in action.

Please tell me how you cannot see that ?

See what? The not so angry summer.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Doctor Jolly on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:24am

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:20am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:16am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:10am:
Your rambling piece of fluff is just that, than actually looking at the facts of the link.


I interpret those fact as climate change in action.

Please tell me how you cannot see that ?

See what? The not so angry summer.


Which one ?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:27am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:24am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:20am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:16am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:10am:
Your rambling piece of fluff is just that, than actually looking at the facts of the link.


I interpret those fact as climate change in action.

Please tell me how you cannot see that ?

See what? The not so angry summer.


Which one ?

So many to choose from.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:42am

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am:
Why do we need government department of scaremongering.



A scared population is an easier controlled one.

"Reds under the bed" doesn't work anymore, so now we have AGW and boat people.

Governments love to use fear to control.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:13pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am:
The commissions "Angry Summer" report

Does this look like an angry summer


With the graph above, how do these waste of my tax money, get to make a statement like below


Quote:
Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change


Why do we need government department of scaremongering.

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/thou-shall-not-critique-australian.html

WTF?!?!?
Why are you so gullible to fall for made up stuff like this?

Could you show us where the "Angry Summer" report mentions insurance losses?


What it ACTUALLY said was:

Key facts
1. Extreme weather events dominated the 2012/2013 Australian summer, including record-breaking heat, severe bushfires, extreme rainfall and damaging flooding. Extreme heatwaves and catastrophic bushfire conditions during the Angry Summer were made worse by climate change.
2. All weather, including extreme weather events, is influenced by climate change. All extreme weather events are now occurring in a climate system that is warmer and moister than it was 50 years ago. This influences the nature, impact and intensity of extreme weather events.
3. Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change.
4. It is highly likely that extreme hot weather will become even more frequent and severe in Australia and around the globe over the coming decades. The decisions we make this decade will largely determine the severity of climate change and its influence on extreme events for our grandchildren.
5. It is critical that we are aware of the influence of climate change on many types of extreme weather so that communities, emergency services and governments prepare for the risk of increasingly severe and frequent extreme weather.

http://climatecommission.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/130408-Angry-Summer-report.pdf

Are you claiming any of this is incorrect?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:17pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:13pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am:
The commissions "Angry Summer" report

Does this look like an angry summer


With the graph above, how do these waste of my tax money, get to make a statement like below


Quote:
Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change


Why do we need government department of scaremongering.

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/thou-shall-not-critique-australian.html

WTF?!?!?
Why are you so gullible to fall for made up stuff like this?

Could you show us where the "Angry Summer" report mentions insurance losses?


What it ACTUALLY said was:

Key facts
1. Extreme weather events dominated the 2012/2013 Australian summer, including record-breaking heat, severe bushfires, extreme rainfall and damaging flooding. Extreme heatwaves and catastrophic bushfire conditions during the Angry Summer were made worse by climate change.
2. All weather, including extreme weather events, is influenced by climate change. All extreme weather events are now occurring in a climate system that is warmer and moister than it was 50 years ago. This influences the nature, impact and intensity of extreme weather events.
3. Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change.
4. It is highly likely that extreme hot weather will become even more frequent and severe in Australia and around the globe over the coming decades. The decisions we make this decade will largely determine the severity of climate change and its influence on extreme events for our grandchildren.
5. It is critical that we are aware of the influence of climate change on many types of extreme weather so that communities, emergency services and governments prepare for the risk of increasingly severe and frequent extreme weather.

http://climatecommission.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/130408-Angry-Summer-report.pdf

Are you claiming any of this is incorrect?

Sounds very much like that flannery fools predictions doesnt it. Have they taken over being the mouth pieces for failed climate predictions and the scaring the pants off our kiddies.

Pathetic scaremongers is all they are and you lap it up like you have never eaten.  :o

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:21pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:13pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am:
The commissions "Angry Summer" report

Does this look like an angry summer


With the graph above, how do these waste of my tax money, get to make a statement like below


Quote:
Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change


Why do we need government department of scaremongering.

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/thou-shall-not-critique-australian.html

WTF?!?!?
Why are you so gullible to fall for made up stuff like this?

Could you show us where the "Angry Summer" report mentions insurance losses?


What it ACTUALLY said was:

Key facts
1. Extreme weather events dominated the 2012/2013 Australian summer, including record-breaking heat, severe bushfires, extreme rainfall and damaging flooding. Extreme heatwaves and catastrophic bushfire conditions during the Angry Summer were made worse by climate change.
2. All weather, including extreme weather events, is influenced by climate change. All extreme weather events are now occurring in a climate system that is warmer and moister than it was 50 years ago. This influences the nature, impact and intensity of extreme weather events.
3. Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change.
4. It is highly likely that extreme hot weather will become even more frequent and severe in Australia and around the globe over the coming decades. The decisions we make this decade will largely determine the severity of climate change and its influence on extreme events for our grandchildren.
5. It is critical that we are aware of the influence of climate change on many types of extreme weather so that communities, emergency services and governments prepare for the risk of increasingly severe and frequent extreme weather.

http://climatecommission.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/130408-Angry-Summer-report.pdf

Are you claiming any of this is incorrect?

Sounds very much like that flannery fools predictions doesnt it. Have they taken over being the mouth pieces for failed climate predictions and the scaring the pants off our kiddies.

Pathetic scaremongers is all they are and you lap it up like you have never eaten.  :o

What exactly are you claiming is incorrect?

Could you tell us?

You have been sucked in again - hook, line and sinker - by another silly article in the Australian haven't you.

A silly strawman article that does not actually relate to the mentioned report whatsoever.

Who is it you are calling "Pathetic scaremongers"?!?!  You are the one that is continualy being caught spreading misinformation.

Now - why don't you actually read the Climate Commission's report - and tell us EXACTLY what you think is wrong with it.  Could you do that?

Or do you need somebody from The Australian to spoon feed you your opinions?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:36pm
So - your rant here starts:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

ARe you able to actually tell us what lie you think the Climate Commission has told you?

I have given you a link to the report.  Please cut and paste for us here what you think is a lie in it.

Could you do that?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 1:06pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
So - your rant here starts:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

ARe you able to actually tell us what lie you think the Climate Commission has told you?

I have given you a link to the report.  Please cut and paste for us here what you think is a lie in it.

Could you do that?

Its pretty simple really. If insurance costs have not gone up, then that angry summer was more like a happy summer.

They sound exactly like flannery. Scaremongers of our children with nothing but rhetoric.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Rider on Mar 20th, 2013 at 1:27pm
Insurance losses seems a pretty good factual place to start, but probably not popular with works of fiction like .......ANGRY SUMMER...

Warmist tosh from the go get.  Extreme BS every bit.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Doctor Jolly on Mar 20th, 2013 at 1:33pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
So - your rant here starts:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

ARe you able to actually tell us what lie you think the Climate Commission has told you?

I have given you a link to the report.  Please cut and paste for us here what you think is a lie in it.

Could you do that?

Its pretty simple really. If insurance costs have not gone up, then that angry summer was more like a happy summer.

They sound exactly like flannery. Scaremongers of our children with nothing but rhetoric.



Insurance costs have gone through the roof in the past 5 or 6 years. I cant believe you dont see that.

Quite amazing when compared to other historically high periods since we have much greater disaster prevention systems now days (dams, levies, housing codes, etc).  You'd expect with these improvements in infrastructure that costs would be lowering over time.

This coupled with the increase in premiums and insurance companies now excluding higher risk clients, as a way to reduce payouts (costs), its even more amazing that costs arent lowering.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 5:49pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
So - your rant here starts:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

ARe you able to actually tell us what lie you think the Climate Commission has told you?

I have given you a link to the report.  Please cut and paste for us here what you think is a lie in it.

Could you do that?

Its pretty simple really. If insurance costs have not gone up, then that angry summer was more like a happy summer.

They sound exactly like flannery. Scaremongers of our children with nothing but rhetoric.

Don't run away.
Your rant here starts:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

ARe you able to actually tell us what lie you think the Climate Commission has told you?
THe report mad no mention of insurance costs whatsoever.

I have given you a link to the report.  Please cut and paste for us here what you think is a lie in it.

Could you do that without tying to build silly straw men?

Just answer the question.

Show us what you think is wrong in the report.  What is this "lie" you are so cranky about?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 5:55pm

Rider wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 1:27pm:
Insurance losses seems a pretty good factual place to start, but probably not popular with works of fiction like .......ANGRY SUMMER...

Warmist tosh from the go get.  Extreme BS every bit.

Please quote for us which parts of the report are "works of fiction" and "Extreme BS"

The report is here:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Please cut and paste for us which parts of the report you think  are "works of fiction" and "Extreme BS"

Can you do that?
Or would you prefer to just rant like an idiot?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by adelcrow on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:04pm
We all know treating the atmosphere as an open sewer could never cause any damage or problems for us or future generations...c'mon people you know it makes sense  :D

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:19pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
So - your rant here starts:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

ARe you able to actually tell us what lie you think the Climate Commission has told you?

I have given you a link to the report.  Please cut and paste for us here what you think is a lie in it.

Could you do that?

Its pretty simple really. If insurance costs have not gone up, then that angry summer was more like a happy summer.

They sound exactly like flannery. Scaremongers of our children with nothing but rhetoric.

Don't run away.
Your rant here starts:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

ARe you able to actually tell us what lie you think the Climate Commission has told you?
THe report mad no mention of insurance costs whatsoever.

I have given you a link to the report.  Please cut and paste for us here what you think is a lie in it.

Could you do that without tying to build silly straw men?

Just answer the question.

Show us what you think is wrong in the report.  What is this "lie" you are so cranky about?

lol schools out rabbit. Go play somewhere else. Being here, you have to take what a person says and not just ignore it in every single F reply you make.

Boring

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by adelcrow on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:48pm
Using the atmosphere as an open sewer is as valid today as it was 100 years ago  :D

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:54pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:19pm:
lol schools out rabbit. Go play somewhere else. Being here, you have to take what a person says and not just ignore it in every single F reply you make.

Boring

You opened this thread saying:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

What is this lie that you think the Climate Commission has told you?

Why can't you answer? 

Here is the report:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Please cut and paste from it the bits you claim are "lies"

You have been asked 3 times now to explain your opening rant.
Why do you keep running away?

You claimed they told lies.  Why can't you show us what these lies are?

Are you making things up again?  You have been caught lying here before, haven't you.  Are you telling one of your little fibs again?

Come on.  CTRL-X/CTRL-V.  Show us exactly what these "lies" are.
I have given you a link to the report you are referring to.
What is stopping you?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:05pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:54am:
It's the second thing Abbott plans to do in his first week as PM in September - after abolishing the carbon dioxide tax that no one wants.

What is the "the carbon dioxide tax that no one wants"?!?!

We have a carbon price just as promised before the last election.  The election where a majority of Australians voted for parties who had a policy of imposing a carbon price.

Even in it's current form, the "tax" as you call it is favoured by more Australans than those that oppose it:

more people support the carbon tax (46%) than oppose it (44%).
http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/26/essential-carbon-tax-much-more-popular-than-abbott/

You appear to be in the minority champ.


It is only the retarded deniers that want Australia to fall behind the rest of the world on the issue of carbon pricing.  Tony knows this too.  He will never repeal it.  He can't

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 20th, 2013 at 7:10pm
Left wing atheist populism... :)

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:48pm
Disband the Climate Commission now for not only lying to us, but also for not knowing their area of supposed or expected expertise

New paper

Abstract

The observed global-warming rate has been nonuniform, and the cause of each episode of slowing in the expected warming rate is the subject of intense debate. To explain this, nonrecurrent events have commonly been invoked for each episode separately. After reviewing evidence in both the latest global data (HadCRUT4) and the longest instrumental record, Central England Temperature, a revised picture is emerging that gives a consistent attribution for each multidecadal episode of warming and cooling in recent history, and suggests that the anthropogenic global warming trends might have been overestimated by a factor of two in the second half of the 20th century. A recurrent multidecadal oscillation is found to extend to the preindustrial era in the 353-y Central England Temperature and is likely an internal variability related to the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO), possibly caused by the thermohaline circulation variability. The perspective of a long record helps in quantifying the contribution from internal variability, especially one with a period so long that it is often confused with secular trends in shorter records. Solar contribution is found to be minimal for the second half of the 20th century and less than 10% for the first half. The underlying net anthropogenic warming rate in the industrial era is found to have been steady since 1910 at 0.07–0.08 °C/decade, with superimposed AMO-related ups and downs that included the early 20th century warming, the cooling of the 1960s and 1970s, the accelerated warming of the 1980s and 1990s, and the recent slowing of the warming rates. Quantitatively, the recurrent multidecadal internal variability, often underestimated in attribution studies, accounts for 40% of the observed recent 50-y warming trend.


http://www.pnas.org/content/110/6/2058.abstract

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:53pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:48pm:
Disband the Climate Commission now for not only lying to us, but also for not knowing their area of supposed or expected expertise

What is this lie that you think the Climate Commission has told you?  Why can't you answer?  Why do you keep running away?

Here is the report:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Please cut and paste from it the bits you claim are "lies"
What is so hard about that for you?

Why can't you do it?


Why do you claim a report has "lies" in it - but when asked what they are - you can't show us?  Are you a bit retarded?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:55pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:48pm:
xpertise[/size][/b]

New paper

Abstract

Another irrelevant link?

Why do you keep running away?

What is this lie that you think the Climate Commission has told you?  Why can't you answer?  Why do you keep running away?

Here is the report:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Please cut and paste from it the bits you claim are "lies"
What is so hard about that for you?

Why can't you do it?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 20th, 2013 at 9:32pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:55pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:48pm:
xpertise[/size][/b]

New paper

Abstract

Another irrelevant link?

Why do you keep running away?

What is this lie that you think the Climate Commission has told you?  Why can't you answer?  Why do you keep running away?

Here is the report:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Please cut and paste from it the bits you claim are "lies"
What is so hard about that for you?

Why can't you do it?

lol

Quantitatively, the recurrent multidecadal internal variability, often underestimated in attribution studies, accounts for 40% of the observed recent 50-y warming trend.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:54pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 9:32pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:55pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:48pm:
xpertise[/size][/b]

New paper

Abstract

Another irrelevant link?

Why do you keep running away?

What is this lie that you think the Climate Commission has told you?  Why can't you answer?  Why do you keep running away?

Here is the report:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Please cut and paste from it the bits you claim are "lies"
What is so hard about that for you?

Why can't you do it?

lol

Quantitatively, the recurrent multidecadal internal variability, often underestimated in attribution studies, accounts for 40% of the observed recent 50-y warming trend.

What is this lie that you think the Climate Commission has told you?  Why can't you answer?  Why do you keep running away?

You started this thread.  You told us:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

Why can't you tell us what these "lies" are?

Why do you keep running away when asked?
Why can't you explain your accusation?

Here is the link again for you:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/
Why can't you cut and paste for us the lies you claim are in this report?

How many times do you have to be asked to explain your accusation?


We all understand you have a history of being caught telling lies on this forum.  You appear to be doing it again.  Why do you bother?  It is quite clear that you are simply not smart enough to get away with telling lies the way you do.  You get caught every time.  Why do you do it?

So come on.  Man up.  You made a statement:
Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

How about you actually quote for us what you think th e"lies" are.

Don't run away again.

Answer the question.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 21st, 2013 at 7:46am
Come on Progs.  You started this thread.  You told us:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

Why can't you tell us what these "lies" are?

Just cut and paste them here for us please.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:31pm
Still no explanation of what these "lies" are?!?!?

Come on Progs.  You started this thread.  You told us:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

Why can't you tell us what these "lies" are?

Just cut and paste them here for us please.

Here is the report:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Please cut and paste from it the bits you claim are "lies"

We are waiting

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:50pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:13pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am:
The commissions "Angry Summer" report

Does this look like an angry summer


With the graph above, how do these waste of my tax money, get to make a statement like below


Quote:
Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change


Why do we need government department of scaremongering.

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/thou-shall-not-critique-australian.html

WTF?!?!?
Why are you so gullible to fall for made up stuff like this?

Could you show us where the "Angry Summer" report mentions insurance losses?


What it ACTUALLY said was:

Key facts
1. Extreme weather events dominated the 2012/2013 Australian summer, including record-breaking heat, severe bushfires, extreme rainfall and damaging flooding. Extreme heatwaves and catastrophic bushfire conditions during the Angry Summer were made worse by climate change.
2. All weather, including extreme weather events, is influenced by climate change. All extreme weather events are now occurring in a climate system that is warmer and moister than it was 50 years ago. This influences the nature, impact and intensity of extreme weather events.
3. Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change.
4. It is highly likely that extreme hot weather will become even more frequent and severe in Australia and around the globe over the coming decades. The decisions we make this decade will largely determine the severity of climate change and its influence on extreme events for our grandchildren.
5. It is critical that we are aware of the influence of climate change on many types of extreme weather so that communities, emergency services and governments prepare for the risk of increasingly severe and frequent extreme weather.

http://climatecommission.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/130408-Angry-Summer-report.pdf

Are you claiming any of this is incorrect?


It rates an 8 on the bullshitometer.
Just because of a cyclone that travels particularly slowly drenching  the coastline is not an indication of "climate change".
It's an indication of a cyclones direction.
I'd be wondering more about where have all the cat 5 cyclones gone that northern Australia was supposed to get that the soothsayers are making predictions about?
As far as wet seasons go here in the north, it's been an absolute dud rubber.
One and one only cyclone goes past and drops a bit of rain down south and the red hat brigade are out squealing "climate change".
The fact remains that the south of Queensland and Northern NSW are not equipped to handle that level of rainfall in such a short space of time and never have been, and that's it.
A few hot days in some areas beating records is also not an indication of "climate change".
This is a beat up and nothing more.
The nervous nellies need to harden up.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:59pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:31pm:
Still no explanation of what these "lies" are?!?!?

Come on Progs.  You started this thread.  You told us:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

Why can't you tell us what these "lies" are?

Just cut and paste them here for us please.

Here is the report:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Please cut and paste from it the bits you claim are "lies"

We are waiting

Oh poor rabbit. You actual believe you deserve another answer dont you. Idiot.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:10pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:59pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:31pm:
Still no explanation of what these "lies" are?!?!?

Come on Progs.  You started this thread.  You told us:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

Why can't you tell us what these "lies" are?

Just cut and paste them here for us please.

Here is the report:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Please cut and paste from it the bits you claim are "lies"

We are waiting

Oh poor rabbit. You actual believe you deserve another answer dont you. Idiot.

You started the tread Prods.

You wrote:
Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

We are still waiting to see what the lie is.

Here is the report progs:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Cut and paste for us what the lie is.

Why cant you do that?

Why did you start a stupid thread with no point?

You accuse a lie? We have seen no lie.

The only liar is you Progs. Caught red-handed again, as you so often are. Telling lies.


Cut and past Progs
Show s the lie.

Cut and past Progs
Cut and past Progs
Cut and past Progs
Cut and past Progs
Cut and past Progs
Cut and past Progs

Come on liar.

Stop running away.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:12pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:50pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:13pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am:
The commissions "Angry Summer" report

Does this look like an angry summer


With the graph above, how do these waste of my tax money, get to make a statement like below


Quote:
Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change


Why do we need government department of scaremongering.

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/thou-shall-not-critique-australian.html

WTF?!?!?
Why are you so gullible to fall for made up stuff like this?

Could you show us where the "Angry Summer" report mentions insurance losses?


What it ACTUALLY said was:

Key facts
1. Extreme weather events dominated the 2012/2013 Australian summer, including record-breaking heat, severe bushfires, extreme rainfall and damaging flooding. Extreme heatwaves and catastrophic bushfire conditions during the Angry Summer were made worse by climate change.
2. All weather, including extreme weather events, is influenced by climate change. All extreme weather events are now occurring in a climate system that is warmer and moister than it was 50 years ago. This influences the nature, impact and intensity of extreme weather events.
3. Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change.
4. It is highly likely that extreme hot weather will become even more frequent and severe in Australia and around the globe over the coming decades. The decisions we make this decade will largely determine the severity of climate change and its influence on extreme events for our grandchildren.
5. It is critical that we are aware of the influence of climate change on many types of extreme weather so that communities, emergency services and governments prepare for the risk of increasingly severe and frequent extreme weather.

http://climatecommission.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/130408-Angry-Summer-report.pdf

Are you claiming any of this is incorrect?


It rates an 8 on the bullshitometer.
Just because of a cyclone that travels particularly slowly drenching  the coastline is not an indication of "climate change".
It's an indication of a cyclones direction.
I'd be wondering more about where have all the cat 5 cyclones gone that northern Australia was supposed to get that the soothsayers are making predictions about?
As far as wet seasons go here in the north, it's been an absolute dud rubber.
One and one only cyclone goes past and drops a bit of rain down south and the red hat brigade are out squealing "climate change".
The fact remains that the south of Queensland and Northern NSW are not equipped to handle that level of rainfall in such a short space of time and never have been, and that's it.
A few hot days in some areas beating records is also not an indication of "climate change".
This is a beat up and nothing more.
The nervous nellies need to harden up.


Key facts
1. Extreme weather events dominated the 2012/2013 Australian summer, including record-breaking heat, severe bushfires, extreme rainfall and damaging flooding. Extreme heatwaves and catastrophic bushfire conditions during the Angry Summer were made worse by climate change.

What is incorrect about this statement?


2. All weather, including extreme weather events, is influenced by climate change. All extreme weather events are now occurring in a climate system that is warmer and moister than it was 50 years ago. This influences the nature, impact and intensity of extreme weather events.
What is incorrect about this statement?



3. Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change.

What is incorrect about this statement?

4. It is highly likely that extreme hot weather will become even more frequent and severe in Australia and around the globe over the coming decades. The decisions we make this decade will largely determine the severity of climate change and its influence on extreme events for our grandchildren.

What is incorrect about this statement?

5. It is critical that we are aware of the influence of climate change on many types of extreme weather so that communities, emergency services and governments prepare for the risk of increasingly severe and frequent extreme weather.

What is incorrect about this statement?


How about you give us some details retard?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:07pm

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:05am:
One thing i notice with all these debates about climate change is the beneficial choice on temperatures, Before the whole climate change conspiracy started those who did study climate seen warmer periods as beneficial. Why on earth would want to make earth cooler? less plants will grow, less food will be produced and the ability of our planet to support life would reduce.


We dont want it to get hotter or cooler. Our agriculture and whole way of life is based around the climate staying pretty much as it is right now. If you have 7 billion people pumping CO2 into the atmosphere then our climate is going to change. There is no doubt about that.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:09pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:07pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:05am:
One thing i notice with all these debates about climate change is the beneficial choice on temperatures, Before the whole climate change conspiracy started those who did study climate seen warmer periods as beneficial. Why on earth would want to make earth cooler? less plants will grow, less food will be produced and the ability of our planet to support life would reduce.


We dont want it to get hotter or cooler. Our agriculture and whole way of life is based around the climate staying pretty much as it is right now. If you have 7 billion people pumping CO2 into the atmosphere then our climate is going to change. There is no doubt about that.

Yeh, food growing better.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:33pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:09pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:07pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 8:05am:
One thing i notice with all these debates about climate change is the beneficial choice on temperatures, Before the whole climate change conspiracy started those who did study climate seen warmer periods as beneficial. Why on earth would want to make earth cooler? less plants will grow, less food will be produced and the ability of our planet to support life would reduce.


We dont want it to get hotter or cooler. Our agriculture and whole way of life is based around the climate staying pretty much as it is right now. If you have 7 billion people pumping CO2 into the atmosphere then our climate is going to change. There is no doubt about that.

Yeh, food growing better.

Prog - you started this thread.  Why are you running away from it?

You wrote:
Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

We are still waiting to see what the lie is.

Here is the report progs:
http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Cut and paste for us what the lie is.

Why cant you do that?


Or perhaps you should just admit you are a lying little piece of crap?
What is it Progs?

We are waiting?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:59pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:12pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:50pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 12:13pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am:
The commissions "Angry Summer" report

Does this look like an angry summer


With the graph above, how do these waste of my tax money, get to make a statement like below


Quote:
Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change


Why do we need government department of scaremongering.

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/thou-shall-not-critique-australian.html

WTF?!?!?
Why are you so gullible to fall for made up stuff like this?

Could you show us where the "Angry Summer" report mentions insurance losses?


What it ACTUALLY said was:

Key facts
1. Extreme weather events dominated the 2012/2013 Australian summer, including record-breaking heat, severe bushfires, extreme rainfall and damaging flooding. Extreme heatwaves and catastrophic bushfire conditions during the Angry Summer were made worse by climate change.
2. All weather, including extreme weather events, is influenced by climate change. All extreme weather events are now occurring in a climate system that is warmer and moister than it was 50 years ago. This influences the nature, impact and intensity of extreme weather events.
3. Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change.
4. It is highly likely that extreme hot weather will become even more frequent and severe in Australia and around the globe over the coming decades. The decisions we make this decade will largely determine the severity of climate change and its influence on extreme events for our grandchildren.
5. It is critical that we are aware of the influence of climate change on many types of extreme weather so that communities, emergency services and governments prepare for the risk of increasingly severe and frequent extreme weather.

http://climatecommission.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/130408-Angry-Summer-report.pdf

Are you claiming any of this is incorrect?


It rates an 8 on the bullshitometer.
Just because of a cyclone that travels particularly slowly drenching  the coastline is not an indication of "climate change".
It's an indication of a cyclones direction.
I'd be wondering more about where have all the cat 5 cyclones gone that northern Australia was supposed to get that the soothsayers are making predictions about?
As far as wet seasons go here in the north, it's been an absolute dud rubber.
One and one only cyclone goes past and drops a bit of rain down south and the red hat brigade are out squealing "climate change".
The fact remains that the south of Queensland and Northern NSW are not equipped to handle that level of rainfall in such a short space of time and never have been, and that's it.
A few hot days in some areas beating records is also not an indication of "climate change".
This is a beat up and nothing more.
The nervous nellies need to harden up.


Key facts
1. Extreme weather events dominated the 2012/2013 Australian summer, including record-breaking heat, severe bushfires, extreme rainfall and damaging flooding. Extreme heatwaves and catastrophic bushfire conditions during the Angry Summer were made worse by climate change.

What is incorrect about this statement?


2. All weather, including extreme weather events, is influenced by climate change. All extreme weather events are now occurring in a climate system that is warmer and moister than it was 50 years ago. This influences the nature, impact and intensity of extreme weather events.
What is incorrect about this statement?



3. Australia’s Angry Summer shows that climate change is already adversely affecting Australians. The significant impacts of extreme weather on people, property, communities and the environment highlight the serious consequences of failing to adequately address climate change.

What is incorrect about this statement?

4. It is highly likely that extreme hot weather will become even more frequent and severe in Australia and around the globe over the coming decades. The decisions we make this decade will largely determine the severity of climate change and its influence on extreme events for our grandchildren.

What is incorrect about this statement?

5. It is critical that we are aware of the influence of climate change on many types of extreme weather so that communities, emergency services and governments prepare for the risk of increasingly severe and frequent extreme weather.

What is incorrect about this statement?


How about you give us some details retard?


Your stupid insult fails to take away that it is increasingly likely the above statements are sensationalist crap designed to scare nervous nellies, and the media just love focusing on bad news.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:36pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:59pm:
Your stupid insult fails to take away that it is increasingly likely the above statements are sensationalist crap designed to scare nervous nellies, and the media just love focusing on bad news.


Just show us what is incorrect about any of those 5 statements.

Can you do that?

Quote the statement you think is incorrect - an provide some evidence to support your opinion. Is that so difficult.

Maybe you can help Progs out.  He has run away like a little girl again.  He started this thread.  He wrote:
Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

But he has not yet told us what the lie they told was yet.  He has been asked half a dozen time - but he cannot answer.  He just runs away.  Can you tell us?  I expect Progs was just telling lies again.  He has been caught doing that before.

What do you think?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:11am

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:09pm:
Yeh, food growing better.

Still waiting to hear what the lie told by the Climate Commission was.

Remember?

You started this thread.

You wrote:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

What lie did they tell? Are you ever going to explain?  Or are you embarressed to be caught out AGAIN parrotting a stupid story form The Australian?

You do that a lot, dont you.  You really are very gullible, aren't you.  Is this why you are running away?  I don't blame you.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:16am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:11am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:09pm:
Yeh, food growing better.

Still waiting to hear what the lie told by the Climate Commission was.

Remember?

You started this thread.

You wrote:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

What lie did they tell? Are you ever going to explain?  Or are you embarressed to be caught out AGAIN parrotting a stupid story form The Australian?

You do that a lot, dont you.  You really are very gullible, aren't you.  Is this why you are running away?  I don't blame you.

Thats good. Keep waiting. I have all year  ;D

By the way. If you dont want to wait a year or more, you could take my first answer and not expect another, just because you didnt like it. But by all means, have fun waiting.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Rider on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 7:05am
Any report that tries to link 'extreme' weather events to AGW is simply bullsh1t.  IPCC said so.

Debate is over, Climate Commission is misleading and is producing propaganda to sustain its addiction to tax payer funded grants and generous salaries. Gullible dimwitted twats will disagree.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by adelcrow on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 7:14am

Rider wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 7:05am:
Any report that tries to link 'extreme' weather events to AGW is simply bullsh1t.  IPCC said so.

Debate is over, Climate Commission is misleading and is producing propaganda to sustain its addiction to tax payer funded grants and generous salaries. Gullible dimwitted twats will disagree.


Yep only an idiot would believe that using the atmosphere as an open sewer for the past 100 yrs would cause any issues.
We all know we've been able to pour pollution into the land, water and air without it ever causing any problems..what fools

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 7:47am

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:16am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:11am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:09pm:
Yeh, food growing better.

Still waiting to hear what the lie told by the Climate Commission was.

Remember?

You started this thread.

You wrote:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

What lie did they tell? Are you ever going to explain?  Or are you embarressed to be caught out AGAIN parrotting a stupid story form The Australian?

You do that a lot, dont you.  You really are very gullible, aren't you.  Is this why you are running away?  I don't blame you.

Thats good. Keep waiting. I have all year  ;D


You started this thread.

You wrote:

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

Why can't you tell us what this "lie" is?

Why can't you show us?  Here is the report you are referring to - http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Why can't you simply cut and paste fro that what this "lie" you are referring to is?

Why did you start this thread when you cannot even show us what this "lie" is you are talking about?[/quote]

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:16am:
By the way. If you dont want to wait a year or more, you could take my first answer and not expect another, just because you didnt like it. But by all means, have fun waiting.


Oh dear.  Now you are going to lie and say you have already answered!!!

No you haven't liar.

If you did - you would cut and paste your response here and show me I am wrong.

But you can't
You are lying.
Caught red-handed again.

All you have given us so far is some silly link about insurance losses.
If the report you are ferrying to had made any claims about insurance losses - you would have a point.
But it doesn't
Nothing.  Not a thing.
The report you are referring to says nothing about insurance losses whatsoever.
You are making things up
Again.

Yet still you say:
Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

Why can't you tell us what this "lie" is?
Cut and paste from the report please.
Show us this lie.

Why do you keep running away?
Why do you make things up like this?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Rider on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 8:33am

adelcrow wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 7:14am:

Rider wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 7:05am:
Any report that tries to link 'extreme' weather events to AGW is simply bullsh1t.  IPCC said so.

Debate is over, Climate Commission is misleading and is producing propaganda to sustain its addiction to tax payer funded grants and generous salaries. Gullible dimwitted twats will disagree.


Yep only an idiot would believe that using the atmosphere as an open sewer for the past 100 yrs would cause any issues.
We all know we've been able to pour pollution into the land, water and air without it ever causing any problems..what fools


Plenty of legislation to manage and control emissions of pollutants here. Perhaps you need to instigate a meaningful dialogue with the likes of China and India re their pollution emissions.

Perhaps this can be another topic for another day however, as it has nothing to do with alarmist claptrap from the Climate Commision.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 12th, 2013 at 3:40pm
Wish our climate change commission could get the teeny weeny bit of credibility the NOAA has managed to tweak out from the masses of the opposite.

New government report from NOAA says 2012 summer drought NOT caused by global warming

NOAA asks: What caused the 2012 Central Great Plains Drought?

NOAA’s answer: The central Great Plains drought during May-August of 2012 resulted mostly from natural variations in weather.

more
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/11/new-government-report-says-2012-summer-drought-not-caused-by-global-warming/

Our climate commission report was more akin to the obviously wrong "this is what global warming looks like" http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120703/D9VP9J681.html

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by progressiveslol on May 4th, 2013 at 11:58am
"angry summer BS".

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

Geoscientist explains why alarmist claims of continued global warming are unscientific political propaganda

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/geoscientist-explains-why-claims-of.html

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by greggerypeccary on May 4th, 2013 at 12:08pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:10am:
Why do we need government department of scaremongering.



A scared population is an easier controlled one.

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on May 4th, 2013 at 12:09pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 4th, 2013 at 11:58am:
"angry summer BS".

Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

Geoscientist explains why alarmist claims of continued global warming are unscientific political propaganda

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/geoscientist-explains-why-claims-of.html

We are still waiting for you to explain why you told a lie when you started this thread.  Don't you think you should do that before you start telling more lies?

You wrote:
Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us

Why can't you tell us what this "lie" is?

Why can't you show us?  Here is the report you are referring to - http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/the-angry-summer/

Why can't you simply cut and paste fro that what this "lie" you are referring to is?

Why did you start this thread when you cannot even show us what this "lie" is you are talking about?

Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by Makka on May 4th, 2013 at 4:43pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:54am:
It's the second thing Abbott plans to do in his first week as PM in September - after abolishing the carbon dioxide tax that no one wants.



Abbott will do 2 things that's significant

(1) Get rid off Gillard
(2) Get rid off the carbon tax

Worthy of Australian of the Year nomination

Why worthy? Look at the criteria


Quote:
The selection criteria are:

Demonstrated excellence in their field

Significant contribution to the Australian community and nation

An inspirational role model for the Australian community

The Local Hero award acknowledges a significant contribution at local community level


Selection panels will also give consideration to the following in assessing and comparing nominations against the above criteria:

Personal, academic and professional achievements

Contribution in the relevant field (how has the nominee 'put back' into their field to benefit others)

Demonstrated leadership, innovation and creativity

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Title: Re: Disband the Climate Commission now for lying to us
Post by rabbitoh07 on May 4th, 2013 at 5:23pm

Makka wrote on May 4th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:54am:
It's the second thing Abbott plans to do in his first week as PM in September - after abolishing the carbon dioxide tax that no one wants.



Abbott will do 2 things that's significant

(1) Get rid off Gillard
(2) Get rid off the carbon tax

How will he pay for the emissions reductions he has promised us?

A Coalition Government will implement a climate change strategy based on direct action to reduce emissions and improve the environment.

Under the Direct Action plan, soil carbons will be the major plank of our strategy, supported by other practical measures that will reduce CO2 emissions by 5 per cent by 2020.

http://www.greghunt.com.au/Issues/DirectAction/DirectAction-Index.aspx

It is great to see that he no longer thinks "climate change is crap" - by why is he ignoring all economic advice and abolishing the one way we can pay for th echanges needed.

Even he agrees that a carbon tax is the best way to do things.  Better than the market driven price with a three year fixed price period that we currently have:

"If you want to put a price on carbon, why not just do it with a simple tax?" Mr Abbott argues.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/abbott-dogged-by-old-carbon-comment-20110607-1fprb.html#ixzz2SJ3Vm1CV

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