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Message started by red baron on Mar 4th, 2013 at 1:53pm

Title: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by red baron on Mar 4th, 2013 at 1:53pm
Prime Minister of
> France<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_France>
>
> For once, a French politician has the courage to say out loud what the
> French think and sometimes cry out about.
>
> Interesting approach? Learning to live in peace and harmony ?
>
> Muslims who want to live under the law of the Islamic Sharia have recently
>
> been told to leave France in order to guard against possible terrorist
> attacks,
>
> the government has targeted radicals.
>
> Apparently, the Prime Minister, Francois Fillon has angered
>
> some French Muslims in stating:
>
> THOSE IMMIGRANTS, WHO ARE NOT FRENCH MUST ADAPT.
>
> Take it or leave it, I,am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are
>
> offending some individual or their culture.
>
> Our culture has developed with struggles and victories by millions of
> men and women who have sought freedom.
> Our official language is French, not Spanish, or Lebanese, or Arabic,
> or Chinese, or Japanese, or any other language.
> Therefore, if you want to be part of our society, learn the language!
> Most French people believe in God. This is not some Christian obligation,
> influence by the rightists or political pressure, but it is a fact,
> because men
> and women founded this nation on Christian principles, and this is
> clearly documented.
>
> It is then appropriate to display this on the walls of our schools? ?
> if God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world
> as your home, because
> God is part of our culture.
> We will accept your beliefs without question.
>
> All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in peaceful harmony with us.
> This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, AND OUR LIFESTYLE.
> And we offer you the opportunity to enjoy all this.
> But if you're tired of our flag, our commitment, our Christian beliefs,
> or our lifestyle,
> I strongly encourage you to take advantage of another great French freedom,
> THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
> If you are not happy here then LEAVE.
> We did not force you to come here.
> You asked to be here.
> So accept the country YOU chose.

> French Prime Minister Fillon
>

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by hadrian_now on Mar 4th, 2013 at 3:10pm
Well said Monsieur Fillon.
Isn't it strange that it has taken a leftist to say it. You would have thought President Whatsaname would have said something like that . . .you know, the one married to the horny chic.

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by Karnal on Mar 4th, 2013 at 3:17pm
It's a fair call, but only a Frenchie could say it.

Liberte, equalite, fraternite.

Your British are much more polite.

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by Doctor Jolly on Mar 4th, 2013 at 3:27pm

Cultures evolve, nothing stays still.

What this Frenchy is saying is that he wants a complete halt to French cultures evolution.  Nice bit of dog whistling, but ultimately futile.

You cant stop evolution.

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 4th, 2013 at 4:23pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 3:27pm:
Cultures evolve, nothing stays still.

What this Frenchy is saying is that he wants a complete halt to French cultures evolution.  Nice bit of dog whistling, but ultimately futile.

You cant stop evolution.



And how dare a European say that European culture isn't being enriched by Muslim immigration and the demands for Sharia Law...They should be proud and happy to scrap all of their culture and bring in laws banning drinking, freedom for women and a choice of clothing and behaviour..

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by Annie Anthrax on Mar 4th, 2013 at 4:36pm
This is a hoax email doing the rounds. It's also been attributed to Gillard but was based on an opinion piece by an American.

Think.

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by red baron on Mar 4th, 2013 at 5:37pm
I don't believe it was a hoax unless the French Prime Minister has a double.

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 4th, 2013 at 5:44pm

red baron wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 5:37pm:
I don't believe it was a hoax unless the French Prime Minister has a double.


Unless the vid was on Youtube, it must be faked....only youtube is 'real'...ask lastnail and bobby...

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 4th, 2013 at 5:45pm
Baron -
your link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_France

doesn't say that.

you are forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by red baron on Mar 4th, 2013 at 5:58pm
Hats off to Monsieur Fillon!!! Prime Minister of France
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For once, a French politician has the courage to say out loud what the French think and sometimes cry out about

Interesting approach…
Learning to live in peace and harmony …


Muslims who want to live under the law of the “Islamic Sharia” have recently been told to leave France in order to guard against possible terrorist attacks, the government has targeted radicals.
Apparently, the Prime Minister, Francois Fillon has angered some French Muslims in stating:
THOSE IMMIGRANTS, WHO ARE NOT FRENCH MUST ADAPT.
Take it or leave it, I’m tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture.
Our culture has developed with struggles and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.
Our official language is French, not Spanish, or Lebanese, or Arabic, or Chinese, or Japanese, or any other language. Therefore, if you want to be part of our society, learn the language!
Most French people believe in God. This is not some Christian obligation, influence by the rightists or political pressure, but it is a fact, because men and women founded this nation on Christian principles, and this is clearly documented.
It is then appropriate to display this on the walls of our schools’ … if God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your home, because
God is part of our culture.
We will accept your beliefs without question.
All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in peaceful harmony with us.
This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, AND OUR LIFESTYLE.
And we offer you the opportunity to enjoy all this.
But if you’re tired of our flag, our commitment, our Christian beliefs, or our lifestyle, I strongly encourage you to take advantage of another great French freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
If you are not happy here then LEAVE.
We did not force you to come here.
You asked to be here.
So accept the country YOU chose.

(Perhaps if we circulate this email to the world’s citizens we may find a way to stand up and spread the same truths)

Well said…Mr Fillon!

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FROM RED BARON  This article is all over Google, many sources here is another one. Either this is the hoax of the year or multiple sources have it wrong.

I have not found any disclaimers from the Prime  Minister of France.

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 4th, 2013 at 6:22pm
I found it on this page.
Notice the date -
April fools day.   ;D


http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/311755/Theresa-May-is-speaking-the-language-of-migratory-sense

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by red baron on Mar 4th, 2013 at 6:58pm
Bobby hi mate, I found the article on an Arab  net post Allaiwah! Dated Dec 12, 2012. amongst other sources. Still not convinced mate.

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by life_goes_on on Mar 4th, 2013 at 8:39pm
"From Francois Fillon blog site:
(translated fairly badly but you'll get the picture)

In recent weeks, the fabric of relays unacceptable comments about Muslims and attributed to me which propagate in the form of mail picked up by several blogs. I can confirm that it is a "hoax" hoax in French, hateful, namely a false statement. This letter actually circulating worldwide for over a year and has already allocated about these several officers or foreign heads of government. I invite users who are likely to encounter this hoax to denounce it. The web should not be the space of lies and racial hatred. Those who know me know that such things are the opposite of what I am, what I think of all my political Republican e humanist. "

"
Samedi 2 mai 2009


Je dénonce un "hoax" détestable relayé sur le net

Depuis quelques semaines, la toile relaye des propos inacceptables sur les musulmans qui me sont attribués et qui se propagent sous forme de courrier électronique repris par plusieurs blogs. Je vous confirme qu'il s'agit d'un "hoax", en français un canular, détestable, en  l'occurrence une fausse déclaration. Ce courrier circule en réalité dans le monde entier depuis plus d'un an et a déjà attribué ces propos à plusieurs dirigeants ou chefs de gouvernement  étrangers. J'invite les internautes qui seraient susceptibles de croiser ce canular à le dénoncer. Le web ne doit pas être l'espace  des mensonges et de la haine raciste. Ceux qui me connaissent savent que de tels propos sont aux antipodes de ce que je suis, de ce que je pense, de tout  mon engagement politique républicain e humaniste.

François Fillon"

http://www.blog-fillon.com/article-30932130.html

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by cods on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:11pm
I have always believed in "when i Rome do as the Romans do".

if I went to live in Lebanon I would learn the language and wear appropriate clothing and it really would not occur to me to want to make it like Australia!!!!..


why go to another country to turn it into what you have left??? doesnt make sense to me.

you want Sharia Law live in a muslim country its not rocket science.

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:15pm

it's a pity is was fake, I would have voted for him

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by Annie Anthrax on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:15pm

cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:11pm:
I have always believed in "when i Rome do as the Romans do".

if I went to live in Lebanon .



Please do. I'll chip in for your ticket.

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by buzzanddidj on Mar 4th, 2013 at 11:27pm

red baron wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 5:37pm:
I don't believe it was a hoax unless the French Prime Minister has a double.




It IS, I'm sorry



Quote:
In recent weeks, the fabric of relays unacceptable comments about Muslims and attributed to me which propagate in the form of mail picked up by several blogs. I can confirm that it is a "hoax" hoax in French, hateful, namely a false statement. This letter actually circulating worldwide for over a year and has already allocated about these several officers or foreign heads of government. I invite users who are likely to encounter this hoax to denounce it. The web should not be the space of lies and racial hatred. Those who know me know that such things are the opposite of what I am, what I think of all my political Republican e humanist.


From Francois Fillon blog site:

http://www.blog-fillon.com/article-30932130.html

(translated fairly badly but you'll get the picture)





Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by Luke Fowler on Mar 4th, 2013 at 11:48pm
Ways to tell what follows is groundless:

It has the word "FACT" written after it in caps.

It is attributed to a person who is "telling it like it is"


*feel free to add to the list 

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by Luke Fowler on Mar 4th, 2013 at 11:49pm
"You look like someone who knows a good deal when they see it"

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by AaLF on Mar 5th, 2013 at 9:57am
Hypocrisy ??

Jewish Law has been enshrined within the australian legal system since 1905.  Same in the UK.   Any civil dispute between jews is handled by jewish Law - not australian law.

Please Google -

Sydney Beth Din
London Beth Din

Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by Doctor Jolly on Mar 5th, 2013 at 10:16am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 4:23pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 3:27pm:
Cultures evolve, nothing stays still.

What this Frenchy is saying is that he wants a complete halt to French cultures evolution.  Nice bit of dog whistling, but ultimately futile.

You cant stop evolution.



And how dare a European say that European culture isn't being enriched by Muslim immigration and the demands for Sharia Law...They should be proud and happy to scrap all of their culture and bring in laws banning drinking, freedom for women and a choice of clothing and behaviour..


Saying French culture is stagnant is as bad as a muslim saying French culture should radically change.

Both are wrong. Reality lies somewhere in between.


Title: Re: French Prime Minister tells it like it is
Post by AaLF on Mar 5th, 2013 at 10:31am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 5th, 2013 at 10:16am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 4:23pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 3:27pm:
Cultures evolve, nothing stays still.

What this Frenchy is saying is that he wants a complete halt to French cultures evolution.  Nice bit of dog whistling, but ultimately futile.

You cant stop evolution.



And how dare a European say that European culture isn't being enriched by Muslim immigration and the demands for Sharia Law...They should be proud and happy to scrap all of their culture and bring in laws banning drinking, freedom for women and a choice of clothing and behaviour..


Saying French culture is stagnant is as bad as a muslim saying French culture should radically change.

Both are wrong. Reality lies somewhere in between.


correct.  Jewish Law with regards to civil disputes in France have been handled by the Jewish law council since the 1800s.  Its called: Beth Din de Paris

And same goes for australia:  Sydney Beth Din -The Jewish Court of Australia

and also the UK: London Beth Din -The Jewish Court of the U.K.

....and so on.

So why not the muslims??


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