Abbott's positive plans on economy

Date
    November 3, 2012


IN THE wake of poor polls and internal questioning of his strategy, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has used a major economic speech to strike a more positive note, trying to counter the government's push on its plans for the future.     :-?

Mr Abbott said the Coalition had consulted widely to develop comprehensive policies to improve the nation and he had outlined plans ''for a stronger economy, stronger communities, a cleaner environment, stronger borders and modern infrastructure.'' His economic plan included lower taxes, lower spending, closer engagement with Asia ''and, crucially, higher productivity''.

Mr Abbott has chosen a strong proponent of industrial relations reform, Steve Ciobo - whom he dropped from the frontbench - to chair a Coalition group on productivity.

Victorian Liberals Josh Frydenberg and Dan Tehan will be deputy chairmen.


The opposition has yet to outline its industrial relations policy but Mr Abbott has taken a very cautious line. He has previously rebuffed Mr Ciobo and other Liberals who urged a reintroduction of individual contracts. Mr Ciobo declared in August that it was ''lunacy'' that employers and workers could not strike individual agreements.

Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o

Coalition sources stressed the group was about arrangements for implementing policy rather than developing policy. In a statement last night, the group mentioned workplace laws as one of the elements in its upcoming thinking and consultations.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbotts-positive-plans-on-economy-20121102-28ppu.html#ixzz2B6AD3akn

Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o

when I read the title of the thread I thought for a minute that he may have actually released a plan .... silly me

wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 6:22am:

Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o

Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"???

Good old Workchoices

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:24am:

wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am: Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"??? Good old Workchoices

Ahhh Forrest, your a fan of Abbotts  .... perhaps you could enlighten us ....what is this master plan of his? I mean other than to become PM ... what does he actaully plan on doing and how will he do it?

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:27am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:24am: wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am: Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"??? Good old Workchoices Ahhh Forrest, your a fan of Abbotts  .... perhaps you could enlighten us ....what is this master plan of his? I mean other than to become PM ... what does he actaully plan on doing and how will he do it?

We've seen Gillard's master plan already - a group of MPs sitting around in a mass debate to cum up with the carbon tax and a mining tax that produced no revenue

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:27am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:24am: wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am: Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"??? Good old Workchoices Ahhh Forrest, your a fan of Abbotts  .... perhaps you could enlighten us ....what is this master plan of his? I mean other than to become PM ... what does he actaully plan on doing and how will he do it? We've seen Gillard's master plan already - a group of MPs sitting around in a mass debate to cum up with the carbon tax and a mining tax that produced no revenue

nevertheless it was a plan ... now how about you give me Abbotts plan and not try to divert away from the question ...

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:27am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:24am: wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am: Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"??? Good old Workchoices Ahhh Forrest, your a fan of Abbotts  .... perhaps you could enlighten us ....what is this master plan of his? I mean other than to become PM ... what does he actaully plan on doing and how will he do it?

Its dosn't matter what his plan is, anything that he does do, has got to be better than what we have now.

All we get from this current labor government is this constant julia cry We will support working familys.

Well before you can have a working family , you first have to have working individuals.

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:31am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:30am: John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:27am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:24am: wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am: Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"??? Good old Workchoices Ahhh Forrest, your a fan of Abbotts  .... perhaps you could enlighten us ....what is this master plan of his? I mean other than to become PM ... what does he actaully plan on doing and how will he do it? We've seen Gillard's master plan already - a group of MPs sitting around in a mass debate to cum up with the carbon tax and a mining tax that produced no revenue nevertheless it was a plan ... now how about you give me Abbotts plan and not try to divert away from the question ...

You love lies then

Keep voting for Labor because you love to see your families suffer - good for you

wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 6:22am:

Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o

That's exactly what's required so I hope that is their policy.

AWAs boost productivity and weed out the lazy buggars squibbing it hidden amoungst the collective.

We might even have some manufacturing industries left if they do.

Scrapping workchoices just like scrapping Howard's asylum seeker policies are two of the dumbist things LieBor has done and there's a long list.

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:40am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:31am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:30am: John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:27am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:24am: wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am: Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"??? Good old Workchoices Ahhh Forrest, your a fan of Abbotts  .... perhaps you could enlighten us ....what is this master plan of his? I mean other than to become PM ... what does he actaully plan on doing and how will he do it? We've seen Gillard's master plan already - a group of MPs sitting around in a mass debate to cum up with the carbon tax and a mining tax that produced no revenue nevertheless it was a plan ... now how about you give me Abbotts plan and not try to divert away from the question ... You love lies then Keep voting for Labor because you love to see your families suffer - good for you

Abbott : "A tax on carbon is the simplest, fairest and cheapest way of combating carbon pollution and the coalition would give it some serious thought if we win the next election"  ;D

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:40am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:31am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:30am: John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:27am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:24am: wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am: Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"??? Good old Workchoices Ahhh Forrest, your a fan of Abbotts  .... perhaps you could enlighten us ....what is this master plan of his? I mean other than to become PM ... what does he actaully plan on doing and how will he do it? We've seen Gillard's master plan already - a group of MPs sitting around in a mass debate to cum up with the carbon tax and a mining tax that produced no revenue nevertheless it was a plan ... now how about you give me Abbotts plan and not try to divert away from the question ... You love lies then Keep voting for Labor because you love to see your families suffer - good for you

don't pretend you're upset about lies ... Abbott has more than a fair share of them and yet you never seem to object

what makes you think my family is suffering? If your suffering its because you're an idiot ....

warrigal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:31am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:27am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:24am: wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am: Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"??? Good old Workchoices Ahhh Forrest, your a fan of Abbotts  .... perhaps you could enlighten us ....what is this master plan of his? I mean other than to become PM ... what does he actaully plan on doing and how will he do it? Its dosn't matter what his plan is, anything that he does do, has got to be better than what we have now. All we get from this current labor government is this constant julia cry We will support working familys. Well before you can have a working family , you first have to have working individuals.

to vote for an alternative just because it is an alternative, without even knowing what they plan to do, is lunacy ... your either an idiot or a partisan hack , in which case lets not pretend its about Gillards policies ....

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:49am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:40am: John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:31am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:30am: John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:27am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:24am: wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am: Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"??? Good old Workchoices Ahhh Forrest, your a fan of Abbotts  .... perhaps you could enlighten us ....what is this master plan of his? I mean other than to become PM ... what does he actaully plan on doing and how will he do it? We've seen Gillard's master plan already - a group of MPs sitting around in a mass debate to cum up with the carbon tax and a mining tax that produced no revenue nevertheless it was a plan ... now how about you give me Abbotts plan and not try to divert away from the question ... You love lies then Keep voting for Labor because you love to see your families suffer - good for you don't pretend you're upset about lies ... Abbott has more than a fair share of them and yet you never seem to object what makes you think my family is suffering? If your suffering its because you're an idiot ....

Now..thats probably the smartest thing Ive read on here for a long time..good on ya John  :)

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 9:49am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:40am: John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:31am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:30am: John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:27am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:24am: wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am: Julia Gillard seized on Mr Ciobo's appointment, saying he had ''made it absolutely clear … his answer for productivity is bringing back WorkChoices and individual contracts''.     :o Did she also mention "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"??? Good old Workchoices Ahhh Forrest, your a fan of Abbotts  .... perhaps you could enlighten us ....what is this master plan of his? I mean other than to become PM ... what does he actaully plan on doing and how will he do it? We've seen Gillard's master plan already - a group of MPs sitting around in a mass debate to cum up with the carbon tax and a mining tax that produced no revenue nevertheless it was a plan ... now how about you give me Abbotts plan and not try to divert away from the question ... You love lies then Keep voting for Labor because you love to see your families suffer - good for you don't pretend you're upset about lies ... Abbott has more than a fair share of them and yet you never seem to object what makes you think my family is suffering? If your suffering its because you're an idiot .... Now..thats probably the smartest thing Ive read on here for a long time..good on ya John  :)

I see he still hasn't enlightened us with this supposed plan of Abbott's ...

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:21am:

when I read the title of the thread I thought for a minute that he may have actually released a plan .... silly me

He released a plan to have an attempt at getting a plan.  Finally after 4 years as opposition leader he decides it's important to have some idea.  The dimwit.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:21am: when I read the title of the thread I thought for a minute that he may have actually released a plan .... silly me He released a plan to have an attempt at getting a plan.  Finally after 4 years as opposition leader he decides it's important to have some idea.  The dimwit.

Lets face facts..theres no one in the Oppositions front bench apart from Malcolm Turnbull that actually achieved anything when Howard was in power.
Whats left is the dross..and they want us to elect them.. ;D