Australian Politics Forum
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl
General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1349857821

Message started by Upton Sinclair on Oct 10th, 2012 at 6:30pm

Title: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Upton Sinclair on Oct 10th, 2012 at 6:30pm
Is this why you want show us the bill from your tenants, Andrei? because you know it will look like this?




Quote:
Abbott 'caught out' on use of pensioner's power bill
By chief political correspondent Simon Cullen
Updated 2 hours 28 minutes ago

Question Time in Federal Parliament today returned to the more regular themes of the carbon tax and the economy, after yesterday's extraordinary move to try to force Peter Slipper out of the Speaker's role.

But Labor says Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has been caught out in his use of a "pensioner's" electricity bill as part of his anti-carbon tax campaign.

In questioning the Prime Minister about Hetty Verolme's bill, Mr Abbott said the customer "nearly had a heart attack" when she got her most recent power bill.

It had more than doubled since her previous bill to $1,563 for the months of June and July, and Mr Abbott wanted to know what advice Julia Gillard had for the Perth pensioner.

He followed up with a supplementary question: "With an $800 increase in just one bill of which 70 per cent is due to the carbon tax, how can the Prime Minister possibly claim that Hetty Verolme's compensation is in any way adequate?"

Labor challenged Mr Abbott to table the bill in Parliament so it could verify Mr Abbott's claims, meaning it has now been made publicly available.

An electricity consumption graph on the side of the bill shows that most of the increase was due to a dramatic increase in power usage at Mrs Verolme's home.

It also includes a note saying that electricity prices had increased on July 1 by 2.255 cents per unit because of the carbon tax, which "represents an estimated increase of 9.13 per cent for an average daily usage of 15.89 units".


That is less than the Treasury forecast of a 10 per cent increase in electricity costs because of the carbon tax.

"Once again, the Leader of the Opposition caught out just like he was on Whyalla, caught out just like he was on the coal industry, caught out just like he was on lamb roasts, peddling fear (and) peddling reckless negativity," Ms Gillard told Parliament.

"The one thing you'll never hear from the Leader of the Opposition is anything that sounds like the truth about carbon pricing.

"The Opposition knows that the increase around the country has been what was predicted - 10 per cent or less."

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by pansi1951 on Oct 10th, 2012 at 6:45pm
Andrei and Tony both lie. Show us the bill Andrei, clear your name.

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by imcrookonit on Oct 10th, 2012 at 6:48pm
People are still waiting for the sky to fall in.     ;D

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Upton Sinclair on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:15pm
WTF is a "pensioner" doing consuming 112 kW/h of a electricity a day for anyway??? Is she growing something in her attic?  :o

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by skippy. on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:18pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:15pm:
WTF is a "pensioner" doing consuming 112 kW/h of a electricity a day for anyway??? Is she growing something in her attic?  :o

Hey " tomatoes " are expensive nowadays, a nice little hydro set up could save an old dear a fortune.

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Shane B on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:50pm
Don't you love anecdotal evidence? In spirit with the nongs here I am happy to post a picture of mine when it arrives.

I'll be reserving broader judgement until the September quarter Consumer Price Index is released.

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by MOTR on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:54pm

Shane B wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:50pm:
Don't you love anecdotal evidence? In spirit with the nongs here I am happy to post a picture of mine when it arrives.

I'll be reserving broader judgement until the September quarter Consumer Price Index is released.


Good idea, Shane, but what about Abbott deliberately misleading the parliament.


Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:16pm

Shane B wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:50pm:
Don't you love anecdotal evidence? In spirit with the nongs here I am happy to post a picture of mine when it arrives.


Yes, Shane B, but will you be posting the bill from your Canberra or Darwin residence?

Please explain.

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by John Smith on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:18pm

Shane B wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:50pm:
Don't you love anecdotal evidence? In spirit with the nongs here I am happy to post a picture of mine when it arrives.

I'll be reserving broader judgement until the September quarter Consumer Price Index is released.


And yet you never commented on Andrei's lack of evidence ... anecdotal or otherwise ... head sand etc etc

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Shane B on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:25pm

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:16pm:

Shane B wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:50pm:
Don't you love anecdotal evidence? In spirit with the nongs here I am happy to post a picture of mine when it arrives.


Yes, Shane B, but will you be posting the bill from your Canberra or Darwin residence?

Please explain.


Canberra, love.

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:28pm
Thanks, love. You’re in now. Is one month enough time, you think?

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Shane B on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:37pm

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:28pm:
Thanks, love. You’re in now. Is one month enough time, you think?


I'll have a full quarterly bill. Have been keeping up this house in Canberra and the studio apartment in Darwin. I can flitter between the two destinations as it suits.

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:48pm
Great. And we’ll need to see a Dunedin bill as a comparison, thanks.

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2012 at 11:07pm
And the cafe of a friend in Burleigh Heads, please. We’ll need a broad sample group.

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by dsmithy70 on Oct 10th, 2012 at 11:37pm
Well the real question is
"How's Mario at Lavanders fairing
Has the S&P Squid tripled in price?

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Spot of Borg on Oct 11th, 2012 at 4:34am
I thought i already replied in this thread? Is this a 2nd thread on the same friggin thing? Why do you ppl do this?

SOB

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Karnal on Oct 11th, 2012 at 8:06am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 11:37pm:
Well the real question is
"How's Mario at Lavanders fairing
Has the S&P Squid tripled in price?


CYBER-BULLIES TARGET LOCAL BUSINESS - Newcastle Herald

Facebook and Twitter activists have attacked the popular Lavenders Resturant with  threatening emails, following its support of radio personality, Alan Jones.  "We’ve had our inbox clogged with  ridiculous messages, many of them violent and threatening", head chef and proprietor, Mario, said yesterday.

"It’s nothing more than an attack on freedom of speach, headed by the lynch-mob down in Canberra."

Mario is a regular contributer to Mr Jones’ program. "We discuss the issues of the day and I announce the specials. That’s it. Alan is a great bloke."

Mario would not discuss Mr Jones’ comments about the Prime Minister, where Mr Jones said that the Prime Minister’s father had "died of shame." That’s between Alan and Julia Gillard. I just want to provide the best dining experience to my customers with all the best local produce. We’ve got some marvellous calimari in now, and our wedges are to die for. We’re famous for them."

Bookings can be made online. Check Lavenders’ website for details.

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by skippy. on Oct 11th, 2012 at 8:31am

Shane B wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:28pm:
Thanks, love. You’re in now. Is one month enough time, you think?


I'll have a full quarterly bill. Have been keeping up this house in Canberra and the studio apartment in Darwin. I can flitter between the two destinations as it suits.

I think Shane sub lets to Matty when he isn't in town.

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Spot of Borg on Oct 11th, 2012 at 9:00am
Ahhh more copying the yanks chic-a-fil crapola. Gawd. Cant aussies be original?

SOB

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by Karnal on Oct 11th, 2012 at 9:03am

skippy. wrote on Oct 11th, 2012 at 8:31am:

Shane B wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:28pm:
Thanks, love. You’re in now. Is one month enough time, you think?


I'll have a full quarterly bill. Have been keeping up this house in Canberra and the studio apartment in Darwin. I can flitter between the two destinations as it suits.

I think Shane sub lets to Matty when he isn't in town.


It's possible, Skippy, but I don't think Matty will be going back to Darwin. He's now in New Zealand avoiding the carbon tax. He'll be coming back for the next election, but will he return to Darwin? That's the question on everyone's lips.

My guess is he'd return to Ryde or Hornsby - his father has real estate in both suburbs.

But still, I'm not ruling out a move to Canberra very, very soon.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Is Andrei.Hicks lying the same as Abbott?
Post by FriYAY on Oct 11th, 2012 at 9:08am

MOTR wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:54pm:

Shane B wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 7:50pm:
Don't you love anecdotal evidence? In spirit with the nongs here I am happy to post a picture of mine when it arrives.

I'll be reserving broader judgement until the September quarter Consumer Price Index is released.


Good idea, Shane, but what about Abbott deliberately misleading the parliament.


It wasn't deliberate, the man is a moron. ;)

Australian Politics Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.5.2!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2026. All Rights Reserved.