By way of clarification, on October 1st, I had advised in the following post that I would no longer be involved in Moderating or being a Yabb Administrator.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1349042860/20#20

I have not since involved myself in any Moderating, but I remain a member & continue to post on this forum & others.

As far as I am aware FD is the person responsible for allocating & removing the Yabb Administrator position on my Name/ID.

FD is aware of my decision, however, for reasons he has not conveyed, he has not yet done so.

So as to save any confusion, I am re-posting that original post (see above), to ensure all members are aware that I am no longer a Yabb Administrator/Moderator.

Cheers

perceptions_now wrote on Oct 8^th, 2012 at 12:07pm:

By way of clarification, on October 1st, I had advised in the following post that I would no longer be involved in Moderating or being a Yabb Administrator. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1349042860/20#20 I have not since involved myself in any Moderating, but I remain a member & continue to post on this forum & others. As far as I am aware FD is the person responsible for allocating & removing the Yabb Administrator position on my Name/ID. FD is aware of my decision, however, for reasons he has not conveyed, he has not yet done so. So as to save any confusion, I am re-posting that original post (see above), to ensure all members are aware that I am no longer a Yabb Administrator/Moderator. Cheers

noted..

Yeah! I heard what you said and also noted that you still have the moderator tag beside your ID.

It's a shame perce because fair and honest moderators are scarce in forums, especially political ones.

Pity - you were a fair moderator.

You should do what is best for you Perc.....We could all learn to conduct ourselves a whole lot better by following your example.....You are worthy of everyone's respect and will be missed as a Moderator.....The forum has suffered a great loss without your moderation!!!

:'( :'( :'(

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 8^th, 2012 at 9:12pm:

You should do what is best for you Perc.....We could all learn to conduct ourselves a whole lot better by following your example.....You are worthy of everyone's respect and will be missed as a Moderator.....The forum has suffered a great loss without your moderation!!! :'( :'( :'(

I'll second that.

Ask not what your forum can do for you, but what you can do for your forum.

Oh hi there Freediver,
Have you seen the spot of troll thread?
This is very disturbing news.
On a number of accounts.
Do you plan to do anything about this?
Or you think you'll just sit back and enjoy?

sanofi wrote on Oct 9^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

Oh hi there Freediver, Have you seen the spot of troll thread? This is very disturbing news. On a number of accounts. Do you plan to do anything about this? Or you think you'll just sit back and enjoy?

It didn't take long for you to come up with yet another nick after your last ban. Here to offer some constructive criticism? This is one of the major problems for this board - banned members sneaking  back in to cause trouble.

I've sorry to hear that, Perceptions_now. You've been doing a good job. I'll continue to mod in whatever spare time I can spare, which is not much. 

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

Ask not what your forum can do for you, but what you can do for your forum.

Thanks FD, you gave me food for thought.

mantra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2012 at 8:49pm:

sanofi wrote on Oct 9th, 2012 at 7:37pm: Oh hi there Freediver, Have you seen the spot of troll thread? This is very disturbing news. On a number of accounts. Do you plan to do anything about this? Or you think you'll just sit back and enjoy? It didn't take long for you to come up with yet another nick after your last ban. Here to offer some constructive criticism? This is one of the major problems for this board - banned members sneaking  back in to cause trouble.

Who do you think sanofi is? She isnt soren . . . .

SOB

Do you want me to tell you where she lives?

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

Ask not what your forum can do for you, but what you can do for your forum.

IMO you should back your moderators publicly all the way. It's a thankless task and who'd want to do it, only to be held up for ridicule by the forum owner? Show strong dissent in private by all means. It would've been easy enough for somebody to open a new thread on the topic.

I hope Perceptions Now reconsiders, he's been a very good moderator.

Grey wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9th, 2012 at 7:27pm: Ask not what your forum can do for you, but what you can do for your forum. IMO you should back your moderators publicly all the way. It's a thankless task and who'd want to do it, only to be held up for ridicule by the forum owner? Show strong dissent in private by all means. It would've been easy enough for somebody to open a new thread on the topic. I hope Perceptions Now reconsiders, he's been a very good moderator.

I reckon he is too..............but he is being undermined by freediver.

Stop being a sook Perc and just go back to what you were doing.

You've thrown your ass in the corner, I thought you were better than that.

Aussie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 9:02pm:

Grey wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 8:37pm: freediver wrote on Oct 9th, 2012 at 7:27pm: Ask not what your forum can do for you, but what you can do for your forum. IMO you should back your moderators publicly all the way. It's a thankless task and who'd want to do it, only to be held up for ridicule by the forum owner? Show strong dissent in private by all means. It would've been easy enough for somebody to open a new thread on the topic. I hope Perceptions Now reconsiders, he's been a very good moderator. I reckon he is too..............but he is being undermined by freediver.

he's been a very good moderator.

Agree - well done Perceptions.

Muso (ex member) wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

Do you want me to tell you where she lives?

Me? Why would i tell some wannabe where someone lives?

SOB

Aussie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 9:02pm:

IMO you should back your moderators publicly all the way. It's a thankless task and who'd want to do it, only to be held up for ridicule by the forum owner? Show strong dissent in private by all means. It would've been easy enough for somebody to open a new thread on the topic. I hope Perceptions Now reconsiders, he's been a very good moderator.

I reckon he is too..............but he is being undermined by freediver.
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who'd a thunk it?

Dnarever wrote on Oct 15^th, 2012 at 12:51pm:

IMO you should back your moderators publicly all the way. It's a thankless task and who'd want to do it, only to be held up for ridicule by the forum owner? Show strong dissent in private by all means. It would've been easy enough for somebody to open a new thread on the topic. I hope Perceptions Now reconsiders, he's been a very good moderator.

I reckon he is too..............but he is being undermined by freediver.
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he's been a very good moderator.

Agree - well done Perceptions.[/quote]

he's been a terrible moderator. utterly ineffective. So ineffective that he hasnt been a moderator for 6 weeks and who noticed any difference? Its not like he did anything moderator-like!

he's been a terrible moderator. utterly ineffective. So ineffective that he hasnt been a moderator for 6 weeks and who noticed any difference? Its not like he did anything moderator-like![/quote]


You mean he didn't ban everyone that didn't agree with him, like you did. You were like the teachers pet who gets to write the names of the naughty kids on the board when the teacher leaves the room, except you weren't the pet ha ha.....a spiteful little girl with an evil nature should never get positions of power, they can't handle them.

What do you mean "not like anyone's noticed" ? there's a mile of personal insults and abuse, I can see plenty of homosexual accusations by the radical right wing retards.

When running the chatrooms in the old days we had to have rules for the admins that we do not undo what another admin does. Otherwise its just stupid. We had an admin like longy once - he kicked everyone that disagreed with him and there was nobody left to talk to. Also stupid. Need a balance.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 5:24am:

When running the chatrooms in the old days we had to have rules for the admins that we do not undo what another admin does. Otherwise its just stupid. We had an admin like longy once - he kicked everyone that disagreed with him and there was nobody left to talk to. Also stupid. Need a balance. SOB

is that what happened? did FD over-ride what perceptions did? if so, it all seems rather familiar... :)

gold_medal wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 6:32am:

is that what happened? did FD over-ride what perceptions did? if so, it all seems rather familiar... :)

I dont know since im not privy to the politics here but it looks like it.

SOB

Muso (ex member) wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

Do you want me to tell you where she lives?

Yeah. Tell me.

SOB

I reckon Nail would make a good moderator -
he's always fair & well balanced.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 7:47am:

I dont know since im not privy to the politics here but it looks like it. SOB

funny that... I believe he was warned about just that thing! I wonder what he did to incur the unpredicatable wrath of FD? From my viepoint he did nothing at all. Perhaps that was the problem.

FD works in mysterious ways.

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 5:41pm:

FD works in mysterious ways.

but not logical, consistent or with any reference to laws of defamation. Or any particular care, so it seems.

Go placidly amidst the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its shams, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy.

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 7:47pm:

Go placidly amidst the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time. Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its shams, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

Gee.....you are so zen.

8-)

Corporate Desiderata

G0 placidly, amid the politics and decision-making and remember what peace there may be, in the silence of your own office.

As far as possible, do not believe in miracles, but learn to rely on them. Speak convincingly when in doubt; and when in trouble, delegate. Listen to others, for even the dull and ignorant have insider information.

Avoid ambitious and efficient persons, they are vexatious to the spirit.

If you can not convince others, endeavour to confuse them, for always there will be persons less sure of themselves than you. Enjoy your company car, as well as your expense account.

Keep interested, in your own career and take notes of other persons mistakes, however humble, for they can be real possessions in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your affairs, for the corporation is full of trickery. But let this not blind you, to what virtue there is in giving verbal orders and never write anything down, that might be held against you.

Be yourself. Neither, be cynical about corporate profits; for in the face of all trends and economic indicators, they are as perennial as the grass, unless they are killed off by a reversal of major Demographic & Energy Trends or by the Changing Climate!

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering your naivety. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you from department cutbacks. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of overwork and exclusion from important meetings. Beyond a wholesome salary, be gentle with yourself.

You are a child of the corporation, no less than the shareholders and the directors; you have a right to be here. And, whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the new corporate structure is unfolding as it should.

Therefore, be at peace with your superiors, whatever you conceive them to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of corporate life, keep at peace with your co-workers.

With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, the corporation still provides a regular cheque. Be seen with the right executives. Strive to look important, for one ounce of image is worth a pound of performance.

PS - Not quite the original, but a few subtle personal changes, may have given it a little more reality?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

I reckon Nail would make a good moderator - he's always fair & well balanced.

Hear Hear, but why burden him??

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

I reckon Nail would make a good moderator - he's always fair & well balanced.

Well

1. Because he is an idiot

and

2. Because he is an idiot

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 14^th, 2012 at 3:57pm:

Well 1. Because he is an idiot and 2. Because he is an idiot

And because he would be too busy rimming Bobby to have the time to do it.

Verge wrote on Nov 14^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

And because he would be too busy rimming Bobby to have the time to do it.

I wasn't sure about those two. Thanks for the heads up Verge.

Dr No wrote on Nov 14^th, 2012 at 5:29pm:

I wasn't sure about those two. Thanks for the heads up Verge.

They are so close if Nail farts Bobby can taste it.

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 7:47pm:

Go placidly amidst the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time. Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its shams, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

what a wonderfully relevant response...

no wonder you are a useless and ineffective moderator.

Verge wrote on Nov 14^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

They are so close if Nail farts Bobby can taste it.

thats an image I could do without...

but it is very true just the same!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQf2rLWf-pg

Desiderata