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Message started by progressiveslol on Sep 10th, 2012 at 10:09am

Title: It the sun stupid
Post by progressiveslol on Sep 10th, 2012 at 10:09am
New paper finds another mechanism by which the Sun controls climate

A paper published today in the Journal of Geophysical Research describes an additional mechanism by which small changes in solar activity are amplified to cause climate change. According to the authors, the "mechanism describes how solar UV changes can lead to a significant enhancement of the small initial signal and corresponding changes in stratospheric dynamics", which in combination with a natural atmospheric circulation, the Quasi-Biennial Oscillation, causes a "significant ocean response," alterations of the Southern Annular Mode, wind anomalies, and deviations in ocean currents. The IPCC dismisses the Sun as a cause of recent climate change by assuming solar activity is a constant [the "solar constant" or TSI], and by ignoring amplifying factors on solar activity such as clouds, sunshine hours, ozone, large changes in solar UV within and between solar cycles, and the mechanism described by this new paper.

The paper also points out yet another shortcoming of current climate models, stating "it is concluded that comprehensive climate model studies require a middle atmosphere as well as a coupled ocean to investigate and understand natural climate variability."

Thursday, September 6, 2012

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/new-paper-finds-another-mechanism-by.html

Title: Re: It the sun stupid
Post by MOTR on Sep 10th, 2012 at 5:00pm
But you don't believe the climate is changing, progs. Therfore, you can't accept the findings of this paper. All you are doing is putting out things that support your political position. A little intellectual integrity is needed here, progs.

Title: Re: It the sun stupid
Post by progressiveslol on Sep 10th, 2012 at 6:09pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 10th, 2012 at 5:00pm:
But you don't believe the climate is changing, progs. Therfore, you can't accept the findings of this paper. All you are doing is putting out things that support your political position. A little intellectual integrity is needed here, progs.

like you have any.

Title: Re: It the sun stupid
Post by MOTR on Sep 10th, 2012 at 6:22pm

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 10th, 2012 at 6:09pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 10th, 2012 at 5:00pm:
But you don't believe the climate is changing, progs. Therfore, you can't accept the findings of this paper. All you are doing is putting out things that support your political position. A little intellectual integrity is needed here, progs.

like you have any.


I know I have, progs. Just as you know and I know you'll post anything as long as it sounds as if it contradicts the AGW hypothesis. You're not really interested in finding out the truth.


Title: Re: It the sun stupid
Post by progressiveslol on Sep 10th, 2012 at 7:36pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 10th, 2012 at 6:22pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 10th, 2012 at 6:09pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 10th, 2012 at 5:00pm:
But you don't believe the climate is changing, progs. Therfore, you can't accept the findings of this paper. All you are doing is putting out things that support your political position. A little intellectual integrity is needed here, progs.

like you have any.


I know I have, progs. Just as you know and I know you'll post anything as long as it sounds as if it contradicts the AGW hypothesis. You're not really interested in finding out the truth.

Why would I be concerned with what you just wrote. What you wrote is your modus operandi.

Title: Re: It the sun stupid
Post by Elayne Taylor on Sep 10th, 2012 at 9:50pm
The sun is great. It has the largest selection of energy.When I turn to it, close my eye and I many many colors. It is wonderful.

Title: Re: It the sun stupid
Post by Upton Sinclair on Sep 10th, 2012 at 10:24pm
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Title: Re: It the sun stupid
Post by Stanleys on Sep 11th, 2012 at 12:00am
The climate is always affected in any activity the sun makes.

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