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Message started by Maqqa on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm

Title: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
Post by Maqqa on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm
Pre July
[list bull-redcheck]
  • There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead
  • There will be no floating price on the carbon price
  • We will close brown coal power stations in VIC
  • Australian Carbon Tax will lower global temperature

    Post July
    [list bull-greenarrow]
  • There's a carbon tax
  • There's a floating price
  • Brown coal power stations will stay open
  • Temperature has now dropped

  • Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by Deathridesahorse on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:05pm
    :o :o :o :o :o

    How illuminating!!

    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by cods on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:37am
    [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

    its the closest thing to backflips...gillard wins GOLD for her backflips..

    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by Gist on Sep 6th, 2012 at 8:13am
    Did someone say BACKFLIP??



    :D :D

    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 6th, 2012 at 1:45pm

    Gist wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 8:13am:
    Did someone say BACKFLIP??



    :D :D


    Yes, someone did. Julia won Gold, Silver and Bronze in the "shoot your own foot" event at the dopey olympics.

    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by adelcrow on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:04pm
    Nothing about THOMMO and the  illegals?  ;D

    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by Prevailing on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:09pm
    We are pressing from all sides for accountability and transparency...thats why they are panicking...the net is closing in... :) :)

    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by Deathridesahorse on Sep 6th, 2012 at 5:38pm
    We have numbers,

    Here:

    Coalition $1.18, Labor $4.50


    http://centrebet.com/#Sports/Event/2062830

    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by rabbitoh07 on Sep 6th, 2012 at 6:42pm

    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
    Pre July
    [list bull-redcheck]
  • There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead

  • ...but I am determined to put a price on carbon.

    And that is what we have.  No tax.  A price on carbon with a 3 year fixed price period.


    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
  • There will be no floating price on the carbon price

  • Who said that?

    There was always going to be a  floating price on the carbon price after the 3 year fixed price period.


    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
  • We will close brown coal power stations in VIC

  • Who said that?

    They said they would seek to negotiate the potential closure of up to 2000 megawatts of high pollution electricity generation capacity if it was value for taxpayers money.  But it isn't  value for taxpayers money.


    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
  • Australian Carbon Tax will lower global temperature

  • Who said that?
    Besides Andrew Bolt?

    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by aquascoot on Sep 6th, 2012 at 6:47pm

    BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 5:38pm:
    We have numbers,

    Here:

    Coalition $1.18, Labor $4.50


    http://centrebet.com/#Sports/Event/2062830


    those numbers are probably more trustworthy than any spin as they represent the combined knowledge of the "pure market"  thats actually a lot better for tony than i would have expected.  those are black caviar odds.  tone is the new black caviar of australian politics.  julia (the chestnut mare) is going to have to do be ridden hard with the whip to get anywhere near him at those figures

    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by rabbitoh07 on Sep 6th, 2012 at 6:48pm

    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
    Post July
    [list bull-greenarrow]
  • There's a carbon tax

  • No - there is a price on carbon with a 3 year fixed price period.


    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
  • There's a floating price

  • No - we are still in the 3 year fixed price period.


    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
  • Brown coal power stations will stay open


  • nearly 900 megawatts of high polluting brown coal electricity capacity in the economy has been mothballed and shutdown just in recent weeks. That’s the reality. That’s emissions gone out of the system. That’s almost of the half of the amount that we said we would talk about in Contracts for Closure but we haven’t had to pay for that to happen. The market’s looking after it because there is a carbon price in place. And it’s the same across all the parts of the economy that have a carbon price liability. They will reduce their emissions because they’ve got a price incentive to do so now. You can cut your carbon price liability if you can find ways to reduce your emissions.
    http://www.climatechange.gov.au/minister/greg-combet/2012/transcripts/September/TR-257-12.aspx


    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
  • Temperature has now dropped

  • ?!?!?

    On what do you base that bizarre claim?


    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by rabbitoh07 on Sep 6th, 2012 at 6:55pm

    aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

    BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 5:38pm:
    We have numbers,

    Here:

    Coalition $1.18, Labor $4.50


    http://centrebet.com/#Sports/Event/2062830


    those numbers are probably more trustworthy than any spin as they represent the combined knowledge of the "pure market"  thats actually a lot better for tony than i would have expected.  those are black caviar odds.  tone is the new black caviar of australian politics.  julia (the chestnut mare) is going to have to do be ridden hard with the whip to get anywhere near him at those figures

    I think Black Caviar would be able to answer interviewer's questions a bit more intelligently.

    Title: Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
    Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 7th, 2012 at 8:31am

    rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 6:42pm:

    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
    Pre July
    [list bull-redcheck]
  • There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead

  • ...but I am determined to put a price on carbon.

    And that is what we have.  No tax.  A price on carbon with a 3 year fixed price period.

    It is a tax, you dunderhead.


    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
  • There will be no floating price on the carbon price

  • Who said that?

    There was always going to be a  floating price on the carbon price after the 3 year fixed price period.

    Pardon me, I've been asleep for 3 years because I thought it had only been one month or so since the carbon dioxide tax was forced upon us.


    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
  • We will close brown coal power stations in VIC

  • Who said that?

    They said they would seek to negotiate the potential closure of up to 2000 megawatts of high pollution electricity generation capacity if it was value for taxpayers money.  But it isn't  value for taxpayers money.

    Who said it? Gillard, of course.


    Maqqa wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
  • Australian Carbon Tax will lower global temperature

  • Who said that?
    Besides Andrew Bolt?

    See above...



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