They've tried molesting whales and humping trees

They got lucky because of a desperate Gillard trying to hang onto power

But what happens post-2013 when the ALP dump the Greens like a carbon emitting t#rd??!!

UM, WHAT DOES FREEDIVER HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS WHEN I GET AWAY WITH BUGGER ALL AND HE KNOWS IT!??????!

There is bipartisan support for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. The greens will have no problem finding allies.

MOTR wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

There is bipartisan support for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. The greens will have no problem finding an allie.

Everyone in the world wants this.
Unfortunately 2 of the 3 biggest polluters want to increase instead of decrease and make the rest of us all fix it.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:27pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:16pm: There is bipartisan support for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. The greens will have no problem finding an allie. Everyone in the world wants this. Unfortunately 2 of the 3 biggest polluters want to increase instead of decrease and make the rest of us all fix it.

Business is Business  ::)

Brilliant. Since we both recognise there is a problem how about we focus on a path to solution.

If you had absolute power, Avram, how would you solve this problem?

MOTR wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:39pm:

Brilliant. Since we both recognise there is a problem how about we focus on a path to solution. If you had absolute power, Avram, how would you solve this problem?

Every country needs to be 80% of their total 2000 levels and then work down from this point.
Down to 1990 levels etc.

Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution?

As the major contributors to the problem shouldn't they carry a larger responsibility for fixing the problem.

That's the Australian way, Avram.

MOTR wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

There is bipartisan support for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. The greens will have no problem finding an allie.

They couldnt find their own bum. NOBODY likes them. labor and liberals hate their guts and guess what... thats all that counts.

MOTR wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution?

Whoah, here come the spanners!

Avram can't deal with a world that requires his exulted race to take a backward step me suspects!

GO GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED, YOU LITTLE BEAUTY!

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6223/161/1600/jumper11.jpg

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyY!!

gold_medal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:54pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:16pm: There is bipartisan support for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. The greens will have no problem finding an allie. They couldnt find their own bum. NOBODY likes them. labor and liberals hate their guts and guess what... thats all that counts.

Abbott was happy to vote with them to protect the rights of refugees. If the cause is right you'll always find allies.

MOTR wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:56pm:

gold_medal wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:54pm: MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:16pm: There is bipartisan support for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. The greens will have no problem finding an allie. They couldnt find their own bum. NOBODY likes them. labor and liberals hate their guts and guess what... thats all that counts. Abbott was happy to vote with them to protect the rights of refugees. If the cause is right you'll always find allies.

what political planet did you just arrive from? political kindergarten world?? But your biggest naivete is 'the cause id right' when put up by the Greens. Frankly, if the greens support it I would automatically assume it is dumb unless eveidence was given to prove otherwise. They are ideologically driven and wouldnt know pragmatism if they fell on it. And they arent real good on the central idea of democracy (we the voters - a geunine majority - get to choose what we want done in our country)

MOTR wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? As the major contributors to the problem shouldn't they carry a larger responsibility for fixing the problem. That's the Australian way, Avram.

I am talking about fixing the problem - the problem is fixed when you bring down the pollution of the world's worst polluters.

China, USA and India make up half the world pollution. Everyone else is the other half.

From the 3 there, only 1 is reducting or even trying to reduce.

You fix the problem - you hit the ones who is making the most of the problem.
THAT is the Israeli way,

I take my way over yours.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:55pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? Whoah, here come the spanners! Avram can't deal with a world that requires his exulted race to take a backward step me suspects! GO GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED, YOU LITTLE BEAUTY! http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6223/161/1600/jumper11.jpg yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyY!!

I think you are insane

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:12pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:55pm: MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? Whoah, here come the spanners! Avram can't deal with a world that requires his exulted race to take a backward step me suspects! GO GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED, YOU LITTLE BEAUTY! http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6223/161/1600/jumper11.jpg yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyY!! I think you are insane

>> I am talking about fixing the problem - the problem is fixed when you bring down the pollution of the world's worst polluters.

China, USA and India make up half the world pollution. Everyone else is the other half.

From the 3 there, only 1 is reducting or even trying to reduce.

You fix the problem - you hit the ones who is making the most of the problem.
THAT is the Israeli way,

I take my way over yours<<

I THINK YOU'RE A TRYHARD TOUGH GUY TRYING TO HIDE BEHIND IMPOTENT NUCLEAR WEAPONS!

You fix the problem - you hit the ones who is making the most of the problem.
THAT is the Israeli way,
...

LOL, what was 9-11 again?????????  :D :D :D :D :D

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:11pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? As the major contributors to the problem shouldn't they carry a larger responsibility for fixing the problem. That's the Australian way, Avram. I am talking about fixing the problem - the problem is fixed when you bring down the pollution of the world's worst polluters. China, USA and India make up half the world pollution. Everyone else is the other half. From the 3 there, only 1 is reducting or even trying to reduce. You fix the problem - you hit the ones who is making the most of the problem. THAT is the Israeli way, I take my way over yours.

So an Israeli has the right to create more pollution than an Indian? why?

MOTR wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:22pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 9:11pm: MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? As the major contributors to the problem shouldn't they carry a larger responsibility for fixing the problem. That's the Australian way, Avram. I am talking about fixing the problem - the problem is fixed when you bring down the pollution of the world's worst polluters. China, USA and India make up half the world pollution. Everyone else is the other half. From the 3 there, only 1 is reducting or even trying to reduce. You fix the problem - you hit the ones who is making the most of the problem. THAT is the Israeli way, I take my way over yours. So an Israeli has the right to create more pollution than an Indian? why?

Um, whoah  :D :D :D :D  :(.......... :P :P ... just remember to fill me in on which bible everyone is going to be referring to in the ensuing hate speech won't you!

I'll be referring to the golden rule, DRAH.

MOTR wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:30pm:

I'll be referring to the golden rule, DRAH.

No fair, Avram doens't even know what that is!!  ;D

MOTR wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:22pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 9:11pm: MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? As the major contributors to the problem shouldn't they carry a larger responsibility for fixing the problem. That's the Australian way, Avram. I am talking about fixing the problem - the problem is fixed when you bring down the pollution of the world's worst polluters. China, USA and India make up half the world pollution. Everyone else is the other half. From the 3 there, only 1 is reducting or even trying to reduce. You fix the problem - you hit the ones who is making the most of the problem. THAT is the Israeli way, I take my way over yours. So an Israeli has the right to create more pollution than an Indian? why?

India pollutes more than we do.

A fair chunk of us live in India. Of course we should expect more pollution from that part of our world. Are you purposely being obtuse.

There are people in the coalition who do not serve the national interest.  they too have a Marxist problem... :) :)

So if you use this logic, the Falkland Islands, Netherlands Antilles and Qatar are our biggest problems to fix.
We would leave China, building several power plants every week....

Yes this seems sensible?

There is no CT to repeal.

its not going to happen, you can not repeal what never was.

How much CT will you pay Macca - the answer is ZERO - just like everyone else.

I am looking forward to the Carbon price being repealed and a Royal Commission into the affair... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:57pm:

I am looking forward to the Carbon price being repealed and a Royal Commission into the affair...

You also will never pay one cent in carbon tax just like every other Australian.

What will Greens stand for when the carbon tax is repealed?

The usual tosh that excites 12 years through vapid sloganeering.

Green energy boondoggles, gay rights, whale rights, socialism and punishing the most productive members of society (those of us who pay far far too much tax).

Lynn

As I said, I am kooki
Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 10:03pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 9:57pm: I am looking forward to the Carbon price being repealed and a Royal Commission into the affair... You also will never pay one cent in carbon tax just like every other Australian.

As I said, I am looking forward to the repeal of the Carbon Price legislation and a Royal commission into the affair... :) :)

All of the parties must be accountable for policy, its not acceptable that Australia's policy is being developed by faceless corporate planning committees...its unacceptable that it does not matter which party we vote for...The coalition must be made more accountable and transparent when they take Government for decision making... :) :)

Lets assume for one moment the Greens can prove that humans reducing their carbon emissions will reduce global temperature.

The argument here is - should the human race be accountable for it or is it a nationality (per capita) issue?

Can the atmosphere tell the difference between an Asian carbon emission, an American carbon emission, an Indian carbon emission etc.

As I see it - a carbon emission is a carbon emission whether it's come from a Ferrari or an Eskimo's butt.

If the issue is carbon emissions then why are we fighting over a "per capita argument".

If the ship it sinking do we say that only left-handers get to bail out and the rest sits by? Or does everybody bail?

Even if you have women and children - they too must bail even though they can only carry smaller buckets. If there are 5 men on board carrying 5L buckets and 200 women and children carrying 500mL buckets - I wonder which group could achieve greater expulsion of water??!!

The argument from the less developed countries (weaker) is that they are in their developing phase therefore should be given a fair go in getting to where the developed countries (stronger) are before they look at their emissions.

Its like the 200 women and children saying - lets wait until they grow bigger muscles before they should be made to bail water.

If urgent global action is needed then everyone should act. Facts are - it's not!!!

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:46pm:

So if you use this logic, the Falkland Islands, Netherlands Antilles and Qatar are our biggest problems to fix. We would leave China, building several power plants every week.... Yes this seems sensible?

That doesn't in any way follow, Avram.

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 12:34am:

Lets assume for one moment the Greens can prove that humans reducing their carbon emissions will reduce global temperature.

No one is making this assumption. Reducing GHGs will limit the amount of the rise. A significant rise is already locked into the system.


Quote:

The argument here is - should the human race be accountable for it or is it a nationality (per capita) issue? Can the atmosphere tell the difference between an Asian carbon emission, an American carbon emission, an Indian carbon emission etc. As I see it - a carbon emission is a carbon emission whether it's come from a Ferrari or an Eskimo's butt.

We can agree that it doesn't matter where in the world the carbon is released into the atmosphere it has the same effect on temperature.


Quote:

If the issue is carbon emissions then why are we fighting over a "per capita argument".

If we were locked into a closed system with a fixed amount of rations how would you share out the rations. Would those who had been gorging be allowed to gorge at their old rate. I guess if you were a gorger you might be happy with that outcome. I'm not sure the others in the system would agree with you.


Quote:

If urgent global action is needed then everyone should act. Facts are - it's not!!!

There are plenty of threads that discuss the evidence of global warming. Rather than dilute this thread how about we stick to discussing how we should reduce GHG emissions if that was what we wanted to achieve.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:55pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? Whoah, here come the spanners! Avram can't deal with a world that requires his exulted race to take a backward step me suspects! GO GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED, YOU LITTLE BEAUTY! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyY!!

You're an a$$hole, making light of the victims of the worst terrorist attack in history. You're also a racist. You ought to be permanently banned from this forum, you lowlife piece of $hit. I've deleted the picture out of respect for the dead and reported you. If you're not banned, I'm reporting you and your post (along with the forum administrator, who refuses to do anything) to the federal Communications Ombudsman because I'm simply not prepared to put up with any more of your shallow crap.

MOTR wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 4:59am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 9:46pm: So if you use this logic, the Falkland Islands, Netherlands Antilles and Qatar are our biggest problems to fix. We would leave China, building several power plants every week.... Yes this seems sensible? That doesn't in any way follow, Avram.

Those three are among the worst polluters in the world per capita.
So if you use your logic, Qatar is a bigger problem than China even though China represents nearly one third of total world emissions?

It's a stupid logic per capita.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

China represents nearly one third of total world emissions? It's a stupid logic per capita.

BULLSHIT !


If a nation is host to half the world's population, it is common logic they would create half the world's emissions to be a mid-range "average" contributor to climate change

To make LESS than half is to be BETTER than "average"

Unless you are of that SUPREMIST ELITE demographic that would condemn developing nations to ONE LIGHT-BULB per shanty - for all eternity ?

Quote:

What will Greens stand for when CT is repealed?

The faceless, unelected, central Corporate & Bureaucratic planning committees will decide what the Greens will stand for after the global warming propaganda runs out of steam... :) :)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:03am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:55pm: MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? Whoah, here come the spanners! Avram can't deal with a world that requires his exulted race to take a backward step me suspects! GO GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED, YOU LITTLE BEAUTY! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyY!! You're an a$$hole, making light of the victims of the worst terrorist attack in history. You're also a racist. You ought to be permanently banned from this forum, you lowlife piece of $hit. I've deleted the picture out of respect for the dead and reported you. If you're not banned, I'm reporting you and your post (along with the forum administrator, who refuses to do anything) to the federal Communications Ombudsman because I'm simply not prepared to put up with any more of your shallow crap.

I see that the post by deathridesahorse has not been removed. Given this, I will be reporting that post to the telecommunications ombudsman tomorrow morning. There is no excuse for such a post and no excuse for allowing it to remain on this forum.

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:55am: China represents nearly one third of total world emissions? It's a stupid logic per capita. BULLSHIT ! If a nation is host to half the world's population, it is common logic they would create half the world's emissions to be a mid-range "average" contributor to climate change To make LESS than half is to be BETTER than "average" Unless you are of that SUPREMIST ELITE demographic that would condemn developing nations to ONE LIGHT-BULB per shanty - for all eternity ?

I think you've nailed it. It's pure racism.

MOTR wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 8:21pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:53am: Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:55am: China represents nearly one third of total world emissions? It's a stupid logic per capita. BULLSHIT ! If a nation is host to half the world's population, it is common logic they would create half the world's emissions to be a mid-range "average" contributor to climate change To make LESS than half is to be BETTER than "average" Unless you are of that SUPREMIST ELITE demographic that would condemn developing nations to ONE LIGHT-BULB per shanty - for all eternity ? I think you've nailed it. It's pure racism.

Which Australians are you calling racists...the non communists....? ;D ;D

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:11pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? As the major contributors to the problem shouldn't they carry a larger responsibility for fixing the problem. That's the Australian way, Avram. I am talking about fixing the problem - the problem is fixed when you bring down the pollution of the world's worst polluters. China, USA and India make up half the world pollution. Everyone else is the other half. From the 3 there, only 1 is reducting or even trying to reduce. You fix the problem - you hit the ones who is making the most of the problem. THAT is the Israeli way, I take my way over yours.

No -that is not really correct.

The USA and EU are responsible for the majority of historical emissions.  CO2 remains in the atmosphere for about 100 years.  It is these that is causing the problem now. 

China and India are certainly a problem for the future - but the problem must be addressed now - and China and India are not the ones that caused it.

Until those responsible - USA, EU, AUSTRALA etc start to take action - how can anyone expect fo those with a fraction of the per capita emissions to take notice

Already the seed of regime change in the West are being laid as faceless unelected central planning committees become more corrupt, extreme, violent and unhinged ensuring that in their weakness, a new leadership will assume power.... :) :)

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

MOTR wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 4:59am: Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 9:46pm: So if you use this logic, the Falkland Islands, Netherlands Antilles and Qatar are our biggest problems to fix. We would leave China, building several power plants every week.... Yes this seems sensible? That doesn't in any way follow, Avram. Those three are among the worst polluters in the world per capita. So if you use your logic, Qatar is a bigger problem than China even though China represents nearly one third of total world emissions? It's a stupid logic per capita.

Counting coin your whole life is a stupid logic  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 8:10pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:03am: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:55pm: MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? Whoah, here come the spanners! Avram can't deal with a world that requires his exulted race to take a backward step me suspects! GO GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED, YOU LITTLE BEAUTY! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyY!! You're an a$$hole, making light of the victims of the worst terrorist attack in history. You're also a racist. You ought to be permanently banned from this forum, you lowlife piece of $hit. I've deleted the picture out of respect for the dead and reported you. If you're not banned, I'm reporting you and your post (along with the forum administrator, who refuses to do anything) to the federal Communications Ombudsman because I'm simply not prepared to put up with any more of your shallow crap. I see that the post by deathridesahorse has not been removed. Given this, I will be reporting that post to the telecommunications ombudsman tomorrow morning. There is no excuse for such a post and no excuse for allowing it to remain on this forum.

softys vote for ______________________ !!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  :-*

MOTR wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 8:21pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:53am: Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:55am: China represents nearly one third of total world emissions? It's a stupid logic per capita. BULLSHIT ! If a nation is host to half the world's population, it is common logic they would create half the world's emissions to be a mid-range "average" contributor to climate change To make LESS than half is to be BETTER than "average" Unless you are of that SUPREMIST ELITE demographic that would condemn developing nations to ONE LIGHT-BULB per shanty - for all eternity ? I think you've nailed it. It's pure racism.

Rule -

When you are losing argument, shout "Racist!" at the top of your voice several times.

I remind you i am not a white aussie of yours, i dont have a racist view.

What will Greens stand for when CT is repealed?

Big call from supporters of those who have never stood for anything except the interests of their corporate mates.

Prevailing wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:21pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:53am: Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:55am: China represents nearly one third of total world emissions? It's a stupid logic per capita. BULLSHIT ! If a nation is host to half the world's population, it is common logic they would create half the world's emissions to be a mid-range "average" contributor to climate change To make LESS than half is to be BETTER than "average" Unless you are of that SUPREMIST ELITE demographic that would condemn developing nations to ONE LIGHT-BULB per shanty - for all eternity ? I think you've nailed it. It's pure racism. Which Australians are you calling racists...the non communists....? ;D ;D

Is Avram now claiming to be Australian.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 10:06pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:21pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:53am: Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:55am: China represents nearly one third of total world emissions? It's a stupid logic per capita. BULLSHIT ! If a nation is host to half the world's population, it is common logic they would create half the world's emissions to be a mid-range "average" contributor to climate change To make LESS than half is to be BETTER than "average" Unless you are of that SUPREMIST ELITE demographic that would condemn developing nations to ONE LIGHT-BULB per shanty - for all eternity ? I think you've nailed it. It's pure racism. Rule - When you are losing argument, shout "Racist!" at the top of your voice several times. I remind you i am not a white aussie of yours, i dont have a racist view.

So why should people in India and China have less entitlement than us. Why are you happy for the people of India and China to carry most of the load? You are quite happy to make other people pay for your lifestyle. If it's not racism and your inability to empathise with the people of the developing world, perhaps you are motivated by naked self interest.

I believe you are a racist, Avram, and that is what blinds you to the position of other people. By the way your last sentence is oxymoronic. Making racist statements about Australians doesn't really help your claim that you are not a racist.

And dare I state the elephant in the room. Promulgating a Jewish stereotype is an out and out act of racism.

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:55am: China represents nearly one third of total world emissions? It's a stupid logic per capita. BULLSHIT ! If a nation is host to half the world's population, it is common logic they would create half the world's emissions to be a mid-range "average" contributor to climate change To make LESS than half is to be BETTER than "average" Unless you are of that SUPREMIST ELITE demographic that would condemn developing nations to ONE LIGHT-BULB per shanty - for all eternity ?

agree, yet the american position is exactly that (and i presume most of the west think that way),
this is going to create a lot of tension and indeed probably military build up in china and india. undoubtedly the industrial military complex (of which israel is an integral part) will benefit.
i do hope australia is smart enough to keep a low profile but with our "delusions of grandeur' types like rudd and carr running around trying to lecture the world on libya, syria, :D :D i fear their egos will draw them in.

personally, i'd be quite happy to build fighter planes for the chinese.  good high tech growth market.  the yanks didnt have any trouble selling their weapons to saddam.

The shadow, unelected communist central planning committees in the corporations and bureaucracy make war with Iran and China inevitable.   The best we can hope for is that parents and schools reintroduce corporal; punishment to curb barbaric violent tendencies in bullies and the violent to instill civilized disciple and restraint in their behavior.... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:44am:

The shadow, unelected communist central planning committees in the corporations and bureaucracy make war with Iran and China inevitable.   The best we can hope for is that parents and schools reintroduce corporal; punishment to curb barbaric violent tendencies in bullies and the violent to instill civilized disciple and restraint in their behavior.... :) :)

NOW NOW PREV,  theres plenty of evidence that corporal punishment (if OVERUSED) creates bullies and increases violent tendencies.  not saying it should be banned but you will need to complete a degree in the behavioural sciences before commenting(though i suppose you have to trust their findings)

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:47am:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:44am: The shadow, unelected communist central planning committees in the corporations and bureaucracy make war with Iran and China inevitable.   The best we can hope for is that parents and schools reintroduce corporal; punishment to curb barbaric violent tendencies in bullies and the violent to instill civilized disciple and restraint in their behavior.... :) :) NOW NOW PREV,  theres plenty of evidence that corporal punishment (if OVERUSED) creates bullies and increases violent tendencies.  not saying it should be banned but you will need to complete a degree in the behavioural sciences before commenting(though i suppose you have to trust their findings)

Totally incorrect there is no evidence for that...spare the rod and spoil the child...unless you want your children getting into knife fights in King Street, or \into Porn and later progressing into ripe lawless tyrants, torturers, sociopaths ect, appropriate discipline and traditional family role modeling is essential....what ever the faceless engineers want you to believe...Julia Gillard and Bob Carr - both violent tyrannical war mongers and thugs with no moral restraint are products of liberal permissive upbringing...they are spoiled brats... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:47am: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:44am: The shadow, unelected communist central planning committees in the corporations and bureaucracy make war with Iran and China inevitable.   The best we can hope for is that parents and schools reintroduce corporal; punishment to curb barbaric violent tendencies in bullies and the violent to instill civilized disciple and restraint in their behavior.... :) :) NOW NOW PREV,  theres plenty of evidence that corporal punishment (if OVERUSED) creates bullies and increases violent tendencies.  not saying it should be banned but you will need to complete a degree in the behavioural sciences before commenting(though i suppose you have to trust their findings) Totally incorrect there is no evidence for that...spare the rod and spoil the child...unless you want your children getting into knife fights in King Street, or \into Porn and later progressing into ripe lawless tyrants, torturers, sociopaths ect, appropriate discipline and traditional family role modeling is essential....what ever the faceless engineers want you to believe...Julia Gillard and Bob Carr - both violent tyrannical war mongers and thugs with no moral restraint are products of liberal permissive upbringing...they are spoiled brats... :) :)

i'm beginning to doubt that you trust our learned academics in the social sciences prev. ;) ;)

one of the problems seems to be that a good idea , like family first, got hijacked by the do gooder christian movement,

you need to start up a new party.
how about instead of family first we call it "government last"

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 5:08am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 10:06pm: MOTR wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:21pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:53am: Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:55am: China represents nearly one third of total world emissions? It's a stupid logic per capita. BULLSHIT ! If a nation is host to half the world's population, it is common logic they would create half the world's emissions to be a mid-range "average" contributor to climate change To make LESS than half is to be BETTER than "average" Unless you are of that SUPREMIST ELITE demographic that would condemn developing nations to ONE LIGHT-BULB per shanty - for all eternity ? I think you've nailed it. It's pure racism. Rule - When you are losing argument, shout "Racist!" at the top of your voice several times. I remind you i am not a white aussie of yours, i dont have a racist view. So why should people in India and China have less entitlement than us. Why are you happy for the people of India and China to carry most of the load? You are quite happy to make other people pay for your lifestyle. If it's not racism and your inability to empathise with the people of the developing world, perhaps you are motivated by naked self interest. I believe you are a racist, Avram, and that is what blinds you to the position of other people. By the way your last sentence is oxymoronic. Making racist statements about Australians doesn't really help your claim that you are not a racist. And dare I state the elephant in the room. Promulgating a Jewish stereotype is an out and out act of racism.

That's rubbish.
I will point out some obvious things-

1. The earth is harmed by emissions. China is the worlds worst polluter, they are also building coal power stations at a rate of 3 every week. From the 3 worlds worst polluters who make half of the whole world - only the USA is actively aiming to lower their output. Both China and India are not even trying.

2. A per capita argument classes Falkland Islands as a worse problem than China who pollute one third of the total. Falklands pollute 0.000001% of total.

3. A comment of something being "racist" is the last throw of a dice when no argument is there.

4. I hate to point out but you are from a developed world country and ignoring my USA citizenship, I am born and live in the developing world. It is a bit absurd for you to accuse me of being against the developing world. I look at the problem and want to fix. The problem is the worlds worst polluter is not even trying to reduce when everyone else is.

4. I come from a country which has invested more in new energy than most anyone. I know what is needed.

5. As for racist, I am middle eastern with heritage from east Europe and a people who were persecuted. I think I am not a racist.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 8:05am:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:47am: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:44am: The shadow, unelected communist central planning committees in the corporations and bureaucracy make war with Iran and China inevitable.   The best we can hope for is that parents and schools reintroduce corporal; punishment to curb barbaric violent tendencies in bullies and the violent to instill civilized disciple and restraint in their behavior.... :) :) NOW NOW PREV,  theres plenty of evidence that corporal punishment (if OVERUSED) creates bullies and increases violent tendencies.  not saying it should be banned but you will need to complete a degree in the behavioural sciences before commenting(though i suppose you have to trust their findings) Totally incorrect there is no evidence for that...spare the rod and spoil the child...unless you want your children getting into knife fights in King Street, or \into Porn and later progressing into ripe lawless tyrants, torturers, sociopaths ect, appropriate discipline and traditional family role modeling is essential....what ever the faceless engineers want you to believe...Julia Gillard and Bob Carr - both violent tyrannical war mongers and thugs with no moral restraint are products of liberal permissive upbringing...they are spoiled brats... :) :) i'm beginning to doubt that you trust our learned academics in the social sciences prev. ;) ;) one of the problems seems to be that a good idea , like family first, got hijacked by the do gooder christian movement, you need to start up a new party. how about instead of family first we call it "government last"

Any science and/or body of study by academic is a structured approach to observing an predicting behaviours

Social science is not like a 1+1 where you can accurately predict an outcome of 2 and no other results

Social science tries to accurately predict behaviours of 6 billion individuals by studying a sample space of 2000

Therefore on a predictability scale it's not as reliable as a 1+1

These engineers - be they electrical or social - tries to use these predicted outcomes on everyday events.

We can put man on the moon with more accuracy than we can predict the behaviours of humans.

We can split sub-atomic particles with more accuracy than we can strike at the social problem of world hunger, asylum seekers, wars, inequality etc.

My point?

Use the social sciences as a guide at best!

Maqqa wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:41am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 8:05am: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:47am: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:44am: The shadow, unelected communist central planning committees in the corporations and bureaucracy make war with Iran and China inevitable.   The best we can hope for is that parents and schools reintroduce corporal; punishment to curb barbaric violent tendencies in bullies and the violent to instill civilized disciple and restraint in their behavior.... :) :) NOW NOW PREV,  theres plenty of evidence that corporal punishment (if OVERUSED) creates bullies and increases violent tendencies.  not saying it should be banned but you will need to complete a degree in the behavioural sciences before commenting(though i suppose you have to trust their findings) Totally incorrect there is no evidence for that...spare the rod and spoil the child...unless you want your children getting into knife fights in King Street, or \into Porn and later progressing into ripe lawless tyrants, torturers, sociopaths ect, appropriate discipline and traditional family role modeling is essential....what ever the faceless engineers want you to believe...Julia Gillard and Bob Carr - both violent tyrannical war mongers and thugs with no moral restraint are products of liberal permissive upbringing...they are spoiled brats... :) :) i'm beginning to doubt that you trust our learned academics in the social sciences prev. ;) ;) one of the problems seems to be that a good idea , like family first, got hijacked by the do gooder christian movement, you need to start up a new party. how about instead of family first we call it "government last" Any science and/or body of study by academic is a structured approach to observing an predicting behaviours Social science is not like a 1+1 where you can accurately predict an outcome of 2 and no other results Social science tries to accurately predict behaviours of 6 billion individuals by studying a sample space of 2000 Therefore on a predictability scale it's not as reliable as a 1+1 These engineers - be they electrical or social - tries to use these predicted outcomes on everyday events. We can put man on the moon with more accuracy than we can predict the behaviours of humans. We can split sub-atomic particles with more accuracy than we can strike at the social problem of world hunger, asylum seekers, wars, inequality etc. My point? Use the social sciences as a guide at best!

EXCELLENT POINT

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 8:05am:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:47am: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:44am: The shadow, unelected communist central planning committees in the corporations and bureaucracy make war with Iran and China inevitable.   The best we can hope for is that parents and schools reintroduce corporal; punishment to curb barbaric violent tendencies in bullies and the violent to instill civilized disciple and restraint in their behavior.... :) :) NOW NOW PREV,  theres plenty of evidence that corporal punishment (if OVERUSED) creates bullies and increases violent tendencies.  not saying it should be banned but you will need to complete a degree in the behavioural sciences before commenting(though i suppose you have to trust their findings) Totally incorrect there is no evidence for that...spare the rod and spoil the child...unless you want your children getting into knife fights in King Street, or \into Porn and later progressing into ripe lawless tyrants, torturers, sociopaths ect, appropriate discipline and traditional family role modeling is essential....what ever the faceless engineers want you to believe...Julia Gillard and Bob Carr - both violent tyrannical war mongers and thugs with no moral restraint are products of liberal permissive upbringing...they are spoiled brats... :) :) i'm beginning to doubt that you trust our learned academics in the social sciences prev. ;) ;) one of the problems seems to be that a good idea , like family first, got hijacked by the do gooder christian movement, you need to start up a new party. how about instead of family first we call it "government last"

I am not representing a religious point of view even if my views are in agreement with some religious points of view...heck your views are in agreement with some religious points of view.  Religious pints of view on this subject are as diverse as the rest of society.  This is a firm demonstrable fact that increased violence and lack of restraint directly correlates with breakdown of traditional family units & parental failure to raise children in a properly structured positive environment where they learn the rewards of good behavior and the consequences of bad behavior...The social engineers obviously want to live in a world with no consequences for their actions...so did Adolf Hitler...

I am also not anti Government -I am pro constitutional democratic Government and the rule of law.  I am anti faceless unelected central planning committees - especially foreign ones dictating the policy of our parliament.  The sales of the strategic agricultural asset Cubbie Station to the Chinese Government for instance was ordered by the world bank and the trilateral commission and that is illegal and unacceptable...I challenge the Government to deny publicly they are not acting on foreign orders...and why are they trying to silence dissenters like Barnaby Joice? :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:55am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 8:05am: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:47am: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:44am: The shadow, unelected communist central planning committees in the corporations and bureaucracy make war with Iran and China inevitable.   The best we can hope for is that parents and schools reintroduce corporal; punishment to curb barbaric violent tendencies in bullies and the violent to instill civilized disciple and restraint in their behavior.... :) :) NOW NOW PREV,  theres plenty of evidence that corporal punishment (if OVERUSED) creates bullies and increases violent tendencies.  not saying it should be banned but you will need to complete a degree in the behavioural sciences before commenting(though i suppose you have to trust their findings) Totally incorrect there is no evidence for that...spare the rod and spoil the child...unless you want your children getting into knife fights in King Street, or \into Porn and later progressing into ripe lawless tyrants, torturers, sociopaths ect, appropriate discipline and traditional family role modeling is essential....what ever the faceless engineers want you to believe...Julia Gillard and Bob Carr - both violent tyrannical war mongers and thugs with no moral restraint are products of liberal permissive upbringing...they are spoiled brats... :) :) i'm beginning to doubt that you trust our learned academics in the social sciences prev. ;) ;) one of the problems seems to be that a good idea , like family first, got hijacked by the do gooder christian movement, you need to start up a new party. how about instead of family first we call it "government last" I am not representing a religious point of view even if my views are in agreement with some religious points of view...heck your views are in agreement with some religious points of view.  Religious pints of view on this subject are as diverse as the rest of society.  This is a firm demonstrable fact that increased violence and lack of restraint directly correlates with breakdown of traditional family units & parental failure to raise children in a properly structured positive environment where they learn the rewards of good behavior and the consequences of bad behavior...The social engineers obviously want to live in a world with no consequences for their actions...so did Adolf Hitler... I am also not anti Government -I am pro constitutional democratic Government and the rule of law.  I am anti faceless unelected central planning committees - especially foreign ones dictating the policy of our parliament.  The sales of the strategic agricultural asset Cubbie Station to the Chinese Government for instance was ordered by the world bank and the trilateral commission and that is illegal and unacceptable...I challenge the Government to deny publicly they are not acting on foreign orders...and why are they trying to silence dissenters like Barnaby Joice? :) :)

being as it does have the biggest water allocation on the beloved murray darling, i was a bit surprised by the sale.  should be interesting if the government decide to cut back the water allocation to the chinese .  they may be slightly harder to negotiate with than the local farmers.

prev , i cant comment on the new world order. i think its good you get people questioning the order of things.
but i do like data,

now heres some data for you that may interest you,  natural gas from qld is sold to the chinese at a cost that is approxiamtely 8 % of the rate it is sold to australian consumers. 

keep digging ,  be carful prev,  you may be joining mr assange in gautmo if you actually uncover something :)

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:25pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 8:10pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:03am: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:55pm: MOTR wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Why should more developed countries be allowed to maintain higher levels of pollution? Whoah, here come the spanners! Avram can't deal with a world that requires his exulted race to take a backward step me suspects! GO GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED, YOU LITTLE BEAUTY! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyY!! You're an a$$hole, making light of the victims of the worst terrorist attack in history. You're also a racist. You ought to be permanently banned from this forum, you lowlife piece of $hit. I've deleted the picture out of respect for the dead and reported you. If you're not banned, I'm reporting you and your post (along with the forum administrator, who refuses to do anything) to the federal Communications Ombudsman because I'm simply not prepared to put up with any more of your shallow crap. I see that the post by deathridesahorse has not been removed. Given this, I will be reporting that post to the telecommunications ombudsman tomorrow morning. There is no excuse for such a post and no excuse for allowing it to remain on this forum. softys vote for ______________________ !!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  :-*

I feel sorry for your mother, having given birth to such a depraved, racist, sadistic and cowardly non-entity.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 11:55am: aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 8:05am: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:47am: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:44am: The shadow, unelected communist central planning committees in the corporations and bureaucracy make war with Iran and China inevitable.   The best we can hope for is that parents and schools reintroduce corporal; punishment to curb barbaric violent tendencies in bullies and the violent to instill civilized disciple and restraint in their behavior.... :) :) NOW NOW PREV,  theres plenty of evidence that corporal punishment (if OVERUSED) creates bullies and increases violent tendencies.  not saying it should be banned but you will need to complete a degree in the behavioural sciences before commenting(though i suppose you have to trust their findings) Totally incorrect there is no evidence for that...spare the rod and spoil the child...unless you want your children getting into knife fights in King Street, or \into Porn and later progressing into ripe lawless tyrants, torturers, sociopaths ect, appropriate discipline and traditional family role modeling is essential....what ever the faceless engineers want you to believe...Julia Gillard and Bob Carr - both violent tyrannical war mongers and thugs with no moral restraint are products of liberal permissive upbringing...they are spoiled brats... :) :) i'm beginning to doubt that you trust our learned academics in the social sciences prev. ;) ;) one of the problems seems to be that a good idea , like family first, got hijacked by the do gooder christian movement, you need to start up a new party. how about instead of family first we call it "government last" I am not representing a religious point of view even if my views are in agreement with some religious points of view...heck your views are in agreement with some religious points of view.  Religious pints of view on this subject are as diverse as the rest of society.  This is a firm demonstrable fact that increased violence and lack of restraint directly correlates with breakdown of traditional family units & parental failure to raise children in a properly structured positive environment where they learn the rewards of good behavior and the consequences of bad behavior...The social engineers obviously want to live in a world with no consequences for their actions...so did Adolf Hitler... I am also not anti Government -I am pro constitutional democratic Government and the rule of law.  I am anti faceless unelected central planning committees - especially foreign ones dictating the policy of our parliament.  The sales of the strategic agricultural asset Cubbie Station to the Chinese Government for instance was ordered by the world bank and the trilateral commission and that is illegal and unacceptable...I challenge the Government to deny publicly they are not acting on foreign orders...and why are they trying to silence dissenters like Barnaby Joice? :) :) being as it does have the biggest water allocation on the beloved murray darling, i was a bit surprised by the sale.  should be interesting if the government decide to cut back the water allocation to the chinese .  they may be slightly harder to negotiate with than the local farmers. prev , i cant comment on the new world order. i think its good you get people questioning the order of things. but i do like data, now heres some data for you that may interest you,  natural gas from qld is sold to the chinese at a cost that is approxiamtely 8 % of the rate it is sold to australian consumers.  keep digging ,  be carful prev,  you may be joining mr assange in gautmo if you actually uncover something :)

Make no mistake...I will keep digging and pressing for accountability and transparency - in the national interest and according to the Law of the land...you wont get me for disclosing information that compromises the legal right to security of Australian citizens according to our constitutional law and that is the only law I recognize... :) :)

I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 3:14pm:

I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :)

i saw that

couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way

Maqqa wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way

It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 4:40pm:

Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :)

It was funny.

Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott

Joyce said it was non of her business

Leigh said his constituents had the right to know.

FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents.

Leigh is absolutely disgraceful

We have numbers,

Here:

Coalition $1.18, Labor $4.50

http://centrebet.com/#Sports/Event/2062830

Maqqa wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 4:53pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful

As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon?

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon?

Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:08pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :)

Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum!

What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is?

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:08pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :) Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum! What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is?

There is no need to be intemperate and uncivil, if you have no coherent point to make about why it is xenophobic for citizens to demand accountability and transparency for the sale of major assets to foreign governments just say so... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:08pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :) Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum! What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is? There is no need to be intemperate and uncivil, if you have no coherent point to make about why it is xenophobic for citizens to demand accountability and transparency for the sale of major assets to foreign governments just say so... :) :)

absolutely hilarious coming from you .... !!!!  ;D ;D ;D
coherent? I'm surprised you know the meaning considering most of your posts are anything but .....

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:39pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:35pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:08pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :) Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum! What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is? There is no need to be intemperate and uncivil, if you have no coherent point to make about why it is xenophobic for citizens to demand accountability and transparency for the sale of major assets to foreign governments just say so... :) :) absolutely hilarious coming from you .... !!!!  ;D ;D ;D coherent? I'm surprised you know the meaning considering most of your posts are anything but .....

You were not very well raised by your parents were you... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:39pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:35pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:08pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :) Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum! What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is? There is no need to be intemperate and uncivil, if you have no coherent point to make about why it is xenophobic for citizens to demand accountability and transparency for the sale of major assets to foreign governments just say so... :) :) absolutely hilarious coming from you .... !!!!  ;D ;D ;D coherent? I'm surprised you know the meaning considering most of your posts are anything but ..... You were not very well raised by your parents were you... :) :)

one could say the same about yours ... , I'd be willing to bet that most regulars posting on here would agree that you're a little crazy .....

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:47pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:43pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:39pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:35pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:08pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :) Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum! What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is? There is no need to be intemperate and uncivil, if you have no coherent point to make about why it is xenophobic for citizens to demand accountability and transparency for the sale of major assets to foreign governments just say so... :) :) absolutely hilarious coming from you .... !!!!  ;D ;D ;D coherent? I'm surprised you know the meaning considering most of your posts are anything but ..... You were not very well raised by your parents were you... :) :) one could say the same about yours ... , I'd be willing to bet that most regulars posting on here would agree that you're a little crazy .....

Or that you are abusive and unchaste (amoral) being very broad with the truth of your words... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:47pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:43pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:39pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:35pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:08pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :) Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum! What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is? There is no need to be intemperate and uncivil, if you have no coherent point to make about why it is xenophobic for citizens to demand accountability and transparency for the sale of major assets to foreign governments just say so... :) :) absolutely hilarious coming from you .... !!!!  ;D ;D ;D coherent? I'm surprised you know the meaning considering most of your posts are anything but ..... You were not very well raised by your parents were you... :) :) one could say the same about yours ... , I'd be willing to bet that most regulars posting on here would agree that you're a little crazy ..... Or that you are abusive and unchaste (amoral) being very broad with the truth of your words... :) :)

that could quite possibly be true ... but irrelevant ... most of your posts are anything but coherent and most people on here do see you as a little crazy ....  it has little to do with my manners or my morality

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:55pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:51pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:47pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:43pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:39pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:35pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:08pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :) Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum! What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is? There is no need to be intemperate and uncivil, if you have no coherent point to make about why it is xenophobic for citizens to demand accountability and transparency for the sale of major assets to foreign governments just say so... :) :) absolutely hilarious coming from you .... !!!!  ;D ;D ;D coherent? I'm surprised you know the meaning considering most of your posts are anything but ..... You were not very well raised by your parents were you... :) :) one could say the same about yours ... , I'd be willing to bet that most regulars posting on here would agree that you're a little crazy ..... Or that you are abusive and unchaste (amoral) being very broad with the truth of your words... :) :) that could quite possibly be true ... but irrelevant ... most of your posts are anything but coherent and most people on here do see you as a little crazy ....  it has little to do with my manners or my morality

But I think your character (or lack thereof) runs to the very heart of your credibility... :) :)

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:47pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:43pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:39pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:35pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:08pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :) Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum! What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is? There is no need to be intemperate and uncivil, if you have no coherent point to make about why it is xenophobic for citizens to demand accountability and transparency for the sale of major assets to foreign governments just say so... :) :) absolutely hilarious coming from you .... !!!!  ;D ;D ;D coherent? I'm surprised you know the meaning considering most of your posts are anything but ..... You were not very well raised by your parents were you... :) :) one could say the same about yours ... , I'd be willing to bet that most regulars posting on here would agree that you're a little crazy .....

A little???

certainly eccentric prevailing,  then again eccentric can be thought provoking,
could we get yourself and" it is the light" together on one of those boring shows like" Q and A"

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:55pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:51pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:47pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:43pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:39pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:35pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:08pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :) Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum! What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is? There is no need to be intemperate and uncivil, if you have no coherent point to make about why it is xenophobic for citizens to demand accountability and transparency for the sale of major assets to foreign governments just say so... :) :) absolutely hilarious coming from you .... !!!!  ;D ;D ;D coherent? I'm surprised you know the meaning considering most of your posts are anything but ..... You were not very well raised by your parents were you... :) :) one could say the same about yours ... , I'd be willing to bet that most regulars posting on here would agree that you're a little crazy ..... Or that you are abusive and unchaste (amoral) being very broad with the truth of your words... :) :) that could quite possibly be true ... but irrelevant ... most of your posts are anything but coherent and most people on here do see you as a little crazy ....  it has little to do with my manners or my morality But I think your character (or lack thereof) runs to the very heart of your credibility... :) :)

I call it like I see it .... the fact that it offends you says more about your character than mine ...

Out of here - not having a debate with your imaginary support network...The amoral mind is an ocean of confusion... :) :)

rules_of_the_game wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 8:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:47pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:43pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:39pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:35pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:08pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:53pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:40pm: Maqqa wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 4:28pm: Prevailing wrote on Sep 6th, 2012 at 3:14pm: I am about to ring the ABC to demand accountability for an unethical interview I saw given to Barnaby Joice last night, this should be interesting... :) :) i saw that couldn't remember the last time she grilled Labor that way It was unethical because he was being grilled simply for daring to raise the concerns of his constituents as if he had no right to do so.  It was unethical because it was about getting him silenced.  It was unethical because Senator Joice is doing what Leigh Sales would be doing if she was half a Journalist - asking Swan and Gillard for transparency on the sale.  I sent an online complaint to the 7.30 report which they say will be considered by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs and I await their reply. :) :) It was funny. Leigh asked my what was said between him and Abbott Joyce said it was non of her business Leigh said his constituents had the right to know. FFS Leigh - Joyce is speaking up on behalf of his constituents. Leigh is absolutely disgraceful As a member of the Coalition his constituents include the non-xenophobic Liberal voters of Queensland (I am sure there are a few of them, somewhere) who are in favour of foreign investment.  Shouldn't they receive some explanation as to why Abbott puts up with a loon? Isn't that a bit judgmental - are you being racist and singling out any specific demographic of Australian citizen or is any Australian citizen calling for transparency and accountability to the national interest a xenophobe...your point is so vaguely made that it is no point... :) :) Wow!  A whole post without some moronic call for a referendum! What happened?  Has someone actually explained to you what a referendum is? There is no need to be intemperate and uncivil, if you have no coherent point to make about why it is xenophobic for citizens to demand accountability and transparency for the sale of major assets to foreign governments just say so... :) :) absolutely hilarious coming from you .... !!!!  ;D ;D ;D coherent? I'm surprised you know the meaning considering most of your posts are anything but ..... You were not very well raised by your parents were you... :) :) one could say the same about yours ... , I'd be willing to bet that most regulars posting on here would agree that you're a little crazy ..... A little???

i was trying to be nice ....

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Out of here - not having a debate with your imaginary support network...The amoral mind is an ocean of confusion... :) :)

imaginary? I'm not the one with the voices in my head .... enjoy your evening ...