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Message started by Prevailing on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:00pm

Title: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by Prevailing on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:00pm
Listen to the heartless cold ##@*&$## play the Iron Lady over the stiffening corpses of dead Aussie soldiers..on ABC 24 :( :(

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by Prevailing on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:13pm
Stay the course no remorse Gillard on now...

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by Deathridesahorse on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:28pm

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:00pm:
Listen to the heartless cold ##@*&$## play the Iron Lady over the stiffening corpses of dead Aussie soldiers..on ABC 24 :( :(






Now now prev..... it'll be alright until you find a bathroom!

;D

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by Maqqa on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:30pm
she's terrible

as empathetic as a dead fish

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by adelcrow on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:33pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:30pm:
she's terrible

as empathetic as a dead fish


"Sh!t happens"  ;D

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by Deathridesahorse on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:35pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:30pm:
she's terrible

as empathetic as a dead fish



  :o

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by rabbitoh07 on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:00pm

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
Stay the course no remorse Gillard on now...

What "course"

Why are we there again?

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by adelcrow on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:03pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:00pm:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
Stay the course no remorse Gillard on now...

What "course"

Why are we there again?


lol..there is no course..never was one  :D

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by Deathridesahorse on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:07pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:03pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:00pm:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
Stay the course no remorse Gillard on now...

What "course"

Why are we there again?


lol..there is no course..never was one  :D

The western world trying to assert it's nuclear dominance!

It's gone it's gone!!!

  :D :D :D :D :D

Time for a new model!  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o  Anthrax beats nuclear weapons- end of!

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by rabbitoh07 on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:09pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:03pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:00pm:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
Stay the course no remorse Gillard on now...

What "course"

Why are we there again?


lol..there is no course..never was one  :D

I think there was one once.  I believe it had something to do with apprehending people involved in crime carried out in the USA many years ago.  But those suspects have long gone now. 

Even the politicians lost interest years ago.  They gave up on the initial reason for the action and went off on another completely unjustified war of their own making.

Buggered if I know what we are supposed to be doing there now.

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by adelcrow on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:11pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:07pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:03pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:00pm:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
Stay the course no remorse Gillard on now...

What "course"

Why are we there again?


lol..there is no course..never was one  :D

The western world trying to assert it's nuclear dominance!

It's gone it's gone!!!

  :D :D :D :D :D

Time for a new model!  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o  Anthrax beats nuclear weapons- end of!


Iran trumped the west..they got two new allies without any financial or political cost.
We handed the world's  terrorists two new countries to recruit from

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by Verge on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:46pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:30pm:
she's terrible

as empathetic as a dead fish


"Sh!t happens"  ;D


Nice to take it well out of context.

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by hawil on Aug 31st, 2012 at 5:26pm

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
Stay the course no remorse Gillard on now...

This describes the politicans very well, then they bask in the glory of some dead soldiers.

Daily Reckoning
'During the Nuremburg War Crimes Trial, Reichsmarshal Hermann Göring mused to an interviewer "why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

'"There is one difference," his interviewer interjected. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

'Göring was unimpressed. "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Gustave Gilbert Nuremberg Diary (1947)'         

We found that quote in Chris Leithner's book The Evil Princes of Martin Place. It's interesting to note that the US Congress hasn't been declaring any of the wars of late. The President has just gone and started them each time. So even a constitution can't stop a war, let alone public opinion.

And Australians have gone along with whatever their American buddies have decided to do for a very long time. Supposedly that makes us better friends. Even if it creates a rather long list of enemies.

Keep an eye out for war mongering here at home too. It's the historical and logical conclusion to the world's debt mess.

     



Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by John Smith on Aug 31st, 2012 at 5:57pm
It was Howard that got us into this war and now you cretins want to blame Gillard for it ????? How does that work ??? Sure some can argue she could have pulled the plug and bought the troops home, but that would mean all those people that died did so for nothing ... Howard put us there, we have to see it through until it comes to some sort of conclusion .....

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by adelcrow on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:03pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 5:57pm:
It was Howard that got us into this war and now you cretins want to blame Gillard for it ????? How does that work ??? Sure some can argue she could have pulled the plug and bought the troops home, but that would mean all those people that died did so for nothing ... Howard put us there, we have to see it through until it comes to some sort of conclusion .....


I agree Howard and Abbott have most of the blood on their hands but Labor should have pulled out in 2007 when they kicked out the neo con war mongers...By not doing so they are just as culpable for the continuing deaths

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by John Smith on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:08pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 5:57pm:
It was Howard that got us into this war and now you cretins want to blame Gillard for it ????? How does that work ??? Sure some can argue she could have pulled the plug and bought the troops home, but that would mean all those people that died did so for nothing ... Howard put us there, we have to see it through until it comes to some sort of conclusion .....


I agree Howard and Abbott have most of the blood on their hands but Labor should have pulled out in 2007 when they kicked out the neo con war mongers...By not doing so they are just as culpable for the continuing deaths


you pull the troops out before the Afghan govt. is ready to take control and the war lords all come running back, then instead of 5 dead aussies you'd have 5000 dead afghans  ... it is in fact what happened when they decided to go after Iraq and pulled most of the resources out of Afghanistan ...  we should never have gone, but since we did we now have an obligation to see it through to the end.

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by adelcrow on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:13pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:08pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 5:57pm:
It was Howard that got us into this war and now you cretins want to blame Gillard for it ????? How does that work ??? Sure some can argue she could have pulled the plug and bought the troops home, but that would mean all those people that died did so for nothing ... Howard put us there, we have to see it through until it comes to some sort of conclusion .....


I agree Howard and Abbott have most of the blood on their hands but Labor should have pulled out in 2007 when they kicked out the neo con war mongers...By not doing so they are just as culpable for the continuing deaths


you pull the troops out before the Afghan govt. is ready to take control and the war lords all come running back, then instead of 5 dead aussies you'd have 5000 dead afghans  ... it is in fact what happened when they decided to go after Iraq and pulled most of the resources out of Afghanistan ...  we should never have gone, but since we did we now have an obligation to see it through to the end.


As soon as we pull out its all going to turn to sh!t so its better to do it now before anymore of our lads get killed.
Murdering each other is a national sport in Afghanistan..always has been and it always will be.
Pull out now or pull out in 100 yrs time..Afghanistan will revert back to the stone age sh!t hole run by warlords and religious hardliners its always been.


Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by pansi1951 on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:30pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:08pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 5:57pm:
It was Howard that got us into this war and now you cretins want to blame Gillard for it ????? How does that work ??? Sure some can argue she could have pulled the plug and bought the troops home, but that would mean all those people that died did so for nothing ... Howard put us there, we have to see it through until it comes to some sort of conclusion .....


I agree Howard and Abbott have most of the blood on their hands but Labor should have pulled out in 2007 when they kicked out the neo con war mongers...By not doing so they are just as culpable for the continuing deaths


you pull the troops out before the Afghan govt. is ready to take control and the war lords all come running back, then instead of 5 dead aussies you'd have 5000 dead afghans  ... it is in fact what happened when they decided to go after Iraq and pulled most of the resources out of Afghanistan ...  we should never have gone, but since we did we now have an obligation to see it through to the end.


As soon as we pull out its all going to turn to sh!t so its better to do it now before anymore of our lads get killed.
Murdering each other is a national sport in Afghanistan..always has been and it always will be.
Pull out now or pull out in 100 yrs time..Afghanistan will revert back to the stone age sh!t hole run by warlords and religious hardliners its always been.



Exactly, why the hell are we wanting to change countries like this? They don't want to be 'westernised' any more than Saudi Arabia does, they never have and probably never will.

We're never going to convert them to become good little Christians, so why are we wasting lives over there? Just to appease America's lust for war? Let them fight their own battles, it's got nothing to do with us.

If we want revenge for the Bali bombings, we should be in Aceh closing down their terrorist training camp.

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by adelcrow on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:42pm
The Afghan govt is corrupt and is in talks with the Taliban and warlords to save its own neck when the west pulls out.
We either stay forever or we get out asap..thats our only choice

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by Prevailing on Aug 31st, 2012 at 7:13pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:42pm:
The Afghan govt is corrupt and is in talks with the Taliban and warlords to save its own neck when the west pulls out.
We either stay forever or we get out asap..thats our only choice

Till your next humanitarian intervention the Greens want to get us involved with right?  Would you like to apologize to all of the families of the dead soldiers because people like you cant help themselves and stay out of other countries business? 8-) :(

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by adelcrow on Aug 31st, 2012 at 7:15pm

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 7:13pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:42pm:
The Afghan govt is corrupt and is in talks with the Taliban and warlords to save its own neck when the west pulls out.
We either stay forever or we get out asap..thats our only choice

Till your next humanitarian intervention the Greens want to get us involved with right?  Would you like to apologize to all of the families of the dead soldiers because people like you cant help themselves and stay out of other countries business? 8-) :(


Cmon..give me a kiss..you know you want to  :-*

Title: Re: PM Gillard Press Conference On Afghanistan Imanent
Post by woof woof on Aug 31st, 2012 at 7:57pm
quote]

As soon as we pull out its all going to turn to sh!t so its better to do it now before anymore of our lads get killed.
Murdering each other is a national sport in Afghanistan..always has been and it always will be.
Pull out now or pull out in 100 yrs time..Afghanistan will revert back to the stone age sh!t hole run by warlords and religious hardliners its always been.

[/quote]


See you are capable of a commensense rational post, well done, I agree entirely.

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