So much for global warming...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/driest-coldest-winter-in-two-years/story-e6freuy9-1226461593164

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:02pm:

So much for global warming... http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/driest-coldest-winter-in-two-years/story-e6freuy9-1226461593164

Yep..Leaping Lord Budgie is a god

Dont you read past the 4th paragraph.

Sydney once again enjoyed above average temperatures through winter with maximums at 18.4C, more than one degree warmer than normal'' Mr Saunders said.

"Our minimum temperatures at 9.3C were 0.6C above average but were still the coldest in six years.

"Sydney's overall average for the season was therefore 13.9C, the 34th consecutive winter with above average temperatures.''

Newcastle, Wollongong and Parramatta had similar conditions to Sydney with the coldest winter in two years.

The mild winter continues the warming trend observed over most of Australia during the past few decades, but for built up regions like Sydney it is also the result of the urban heat island effect.,'' he said.

FFS AP

you've destroyed their delusion

about the only thing they've got to hang onto now are

"There will be no carbon tax or carbon floor price under a government I lead"

"There will be a carbon floor price under a government I lead"

oopppss - that's gone too

This thread is a great troll.

;D

Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:11pm:

This thread is a great troll. ;D

so are you - yet here we are

Maqqa wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:11pm: This thread is a great troll. ;D so are you - yet here we are

LOL, some business acumen there!  ::) ::)  :D

Maqqa wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:11pm: This thread is a great troll. ;D so are you - yet here we are

You still dont get it do  you.  AP said the coldest winter in two (2) years.  A more meaningless stat would be harder to find.   He then drew the usual denier conclusion  of "global warming is BS" despite the data showing no such thing.

You conga-lined on. Only needing a headline to jump on board.

Funny as.

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Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:14pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:11pm: This thread is a great troll. ;D so are you - yet here we are You still dont get it do  you.  AP said the coldest winter in two (2) years.  A more meaningless stat would be harder to find.   He then drew the usual denier conclusion  of "global warming is BS" despite the data showing no such thing. You conga-lined on. Only needing a headline to jump on board. Funny as.

Not even Abbott would be foolish enough to use this kind of statistic!  :D :D :D :D :D  :-?  8-)

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

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progs can't look the younger generation in the eye!!

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:49pm: The boy who cried Warming Every Global Warming prediction, has proven to be science fiction. Uncover the truth as we expose the shepherds of Climate Change in this new controversial documentary. Introducing first time filmmakers Pete Garcia II (director), Jesse Jones (writer), Deyvis Martinez (dp), Will Rich (sound) in their debut feature length film. Independently funded, this indie documentary in not associated with any corporate sponsorship or funding whatsoever. No hidden agendas, just the COLD truth. Support our grassroots campaign through word of mouth.Help spread the word! http://www.theboywhocriedwarming.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyEm57NqERA progs can't look the younger generation in the eye!!

I would not look them in the eye and use stalinist tactics like the AGW nutjobs.

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 5:26pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:06pm: progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:49pm: The boy who cried Warming Every Global Warming prediction, has proven to be science fiction. Uncover the truth as we expose the shepherds of Climate Change in this new controversial documentary. Introducing first time filmmakers Pete Garcia II (director), Jesse Jones (writer), Deyvis Martinez (dp), Will Rich (sound) in their debut feature length film. Independently funded, this indie documentary in not associated with any corporate sponsorship or funding whatsoever. No hidden agendas, just the COLD truth. Support our grassroots campaign through word of mouth.Help spread the word! http://www.theboywhocriedwarming.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyEm57NqERA progs can't look the younger generation in the eye!! I would not look them in the eye and use stalinist tactics like the AGW nutjobs.

lol, the world is turning and progs is still talking about stalin!!

A.C.T coldest mornings in 15 years..

mind you I dont blame GW I blame mother nature shes a b**ch.

the people I feels sorry for live in Louisiana facing Hurricane Issac... good luck all you folks..

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:26pm: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:06pm: progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:49pm: The boy who cried Warming Every Global Warming prediction, has proven to be science fiction. Uncover the truth as we expose the shepherds of Climate Change in this new controversial documentary. Introducing first time filmmakers Pete Garcia II (director), Jesse Jones (writer), Deyvis Martinez (dp), Will Rich (sound) in their debut feature length film. Independently funded, this indie documentary in not associated with any corporate sponsorship or funding whatsoever. No hidden agendas, just the COLD truth. Support our grassroots campaign through word of mouth.Help spread the word! http://www.theboywhocriedwarming.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyEm57NqERA progs can't look the younger generation in the eye!! I would not look them in the eye and use stalinist tactics like the AGW nutjobs. lol, the world is turning and progs is still talking about stalin!!

tactics, not person. I cant help it that the left still use stalin tactics, still.

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 5:55pm:

A.C.T coldest mornings in 15 years.. mind you I dont blame GW I blame mother nature shes a b**ch. the people I feels sorry for live in Louisiana facing Hurricane Issac... good luck all you folks..

Where I am, we have had more sub zero temps than any time I can remember. Cut down more trees for heat than ever. Got a minus 10 temp that I have never seen before. Pretty sure the most cold days I can remember.

It was nice, but I am tired of chopping down trees and chopping them into small blocks.

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

cods wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:55pm: A.C.T coldest mornings in 15 years.. mind you I dont blame GW I blame mother nature shes a b**ch. the people I feels sorry for live in Louisiana facing Hurricane Issac... good luck all you folks.. Where I am, we have had more sub zero temps than any time I can remember. Cut down more trees for heat than ever. Got a minus 10 temp that I have never seen before. It was nice, but I am tired of chopping down trees and chopping them into small blocks.

Keep up.  I think you will find that your denier friends have moved on from the "it's not warming" thing and onto "ok, it IS warming, but CO2 isn't doing it", or "ok, it IS warming, and CO2 IS doing it, but there is nothing we can do about it". 

Didn't you get the memo?

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 5:55pm:

A.C.T coldest mornings in 15 years.. mind you I dont blame GW I blame mother nature shes a b**ch. the people I feels sorry for live in Louisiana facing Hurricane Issac... good luck all you folks..

I know cods, I got a $600 gas bill last week, courtesy of ACTs winter!!!

This was my first winter back here after being in Darwin for 2 years.

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 6:06pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 6:00pm: cods wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:55pm: A.C.T coldest mornings in 15 years.. mind you I dont blame GW I blame mother nature shes a b**ch. the people I feels sorry for live in Louisiana facing Hurricane Issac... good luck all you folks.. Where I am, we have had more sub zero temps than any time I can remember. Cut down more trees for heat than ever. Got a minus 10 temp that I have never seen before. It was nice, but I am tired of chopping down trees and chopping them into small blocks. Keep up.  I think you will find that your denier friends have moved on from the "it's not warming" thing and onto "ok, it IS warming, but CO2 isn't doing it", or "ok, it IS warming, and CO2 IS doing it, but there is nothing we can do about it".  Didn't you get the memo?

Yeah, like global warming is now climate change, or, climate disruption.

:D :D :D :D

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 6:06pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 6:00pm: cods wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:55pm: A.C.T coldest mornings in 15 years.. mind you I dont blame GW I blame mother nature shes a b**ch. the people I feels sorry for live in Louisiana facing Hurricane Issac... good luck all you folks.. Where I am, we have had more sub zero temps than any time I can remember. Cut down more trees for heat than ever. Got a minus 10 temp that I have never seen before. It was nice, but I am tired of chopping down trees and chopping them into small blocks. Keep up.  I think you will find that your denier friends have moved on from the "it's not warming" thing and onto "ok, it IS warming, but CO2 isn't doing it", or "ok, it IS warming, and CO2 IS doing it, but there is nothing we can do about it".  Didn't you get the memo?

You obviously cant read.

Shane B wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 6:09pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 6:06pm: progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 6:00pm: cods wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:55pm: A.C.T coldest mornings in 15 years.. mind you I dont blame GW I blame mother nature shes a b**ch. the people I feels sorry for live in Louisiana facing Hurricane Issac... good luck all you folks.. Where I am, we have had more sub zero temps than any time I can remember. Cut down more trees for heat than ever. Got a minus 10 temp that I have never seen before. It was nice, but I am tired of chopping down trees and chopping them into small blocks. Keep up.  I think you will find that your denier friends have moved on from the "it's not warming" thing and onto "ok, it IS warming, but CO2 isn't doing it", or "ok, it IS warming, and CO2 IS doing it, but there is nothing we can do about it".  Didn't you get the memo? Yeah, like global warming is now climate change, or, climate disruption. :D :D :D :D

Ha!  Yeah - forgot that one!  Another denier classic!

Ignore the fact that the term "climate change" has been used for decades (like in naming the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change" in 1988) and the term "global warming" is still in current use today.

It is amazing how retarded these denier memes are , isn't it!

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

The boy who cried Warming Every Global Warming prediction, has proven to be science fiction. Uncover the truth as we expose the shepherds of Climate Change in this new controversial documentary. Introducing first time filmmakers Pete Garcia II (director), Jesse Jones (writer), Deyvis Martinez (dp), Will Rich (sound) in their debut feature length film. Independently funded, this indie documentary in not associated with any corporate sponsorship or funding whatsoever. No hidden agendas, just the COLD truth. Support our grassroots campaign through word of mouth.Help spread the word! http://www.theboywhocriedwarming.com/

Maybe you should leave the science to intelligent people lolly? You know, people who have actually read something beyond a blog.

Just a thought.

It's AGW if it's not 24 degrees with a light breeze and a lovely shower every third day.

Everybody know that.

Gist wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 6:38pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:49pm: The boy who cried Warming Every Global Warming prediction, has proven to be science fiction. Uncover the truth as we expose the shepherds of Climate Change in this new controversial documentary. Introducing first time filmmakers Pete Garcia II (director), Jesse Jones (writer), Deyvis Martinez (dp), Will Rich (sound) in their debut feature length film. Independently funded, this indie documentary in not associated with any corporate sponsorship or funding whatsoever. No hidden agendas, just the COLD truth. Support our grassroots campaign through word of mouth.Help spread the word! http://www.theboywhocriedwarming.com/ Maybe you should leave the science to intelligent people lolly? You know, people who have actually read something beyond a blog. Just a thought.

;D ;D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:02pm:

So much for global warming...

State of the Climate
National Overview
July 2012

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Climatic Data Center


Summary Information


July 2012 global temperatures were fourth highest on record

Arctic sea ice extent was second lowest July extent on record

The globally-averaged temperature for July 2012 marked the fourth warmest July since record keeping began in 1880. July 2012 also marks the 36th consecutive July and 329th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average.

Most areas of the world experienced much higher-than-average monthly temperatures, including most of the United States and Canada.

Meanwhile, Australia, northern and western Europe, eastern Russia, Alaska, and southern South America were notably cooler than average.

In the Arctic, sea ice extent averaged 3.1 million square miles, resulting in the second lowest July sea ice extent on record.


http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

What's this fetish for stats?

What's the psychology behind this surge in ordinary people, all of a sudden, becoming completely taken in by statistics?  I detect a psychological deformity, or a need at least.

What's it all about, this anal retentive stats fetish?

Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:05pm:

Dont you read past the 4th paragraph. Sydney once again enjoyed above average temperatures through winter with maximums at 18.4C, more than one degree warmer than normal'' Mr Saunders said. "Our minimum temperatures at 9.3C were 0.6C above average but were still the coldest in six years. "Sydney's overall average for the season was therefore 13.9C, the 34th consecutive winter with above average temperatures.'' Newcastle, Wollongong and Parramatta had similar conditions to Sydney with the coldest winter in two years. The mild winter continues the warming trend observed over most of Australia during the past few decades, but for built up regions like Sydney it is also the result of the urban heat island effect.,'' he said.

I see armchair is too ashamed to respond to this post.

What is the 'normal' benchmark? How was it decided?

Soren wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 6:40pm:

It's AGW if it's not 24 degrees with a light breeze and a lovely shower every third day. Everybody know that.

Best to stick to posts like this, old chap. Leave the science to those who know about, you know, the Book of Genesis.

Common sense, innit. We can't all be theologians.

Soren wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 8:08pm:

What's this fetish for stats? What's the psychology behind this surge in ordinary people, all of a sudden, becoming completely taken in by statistics?  I detect a psychological deformity, or a need at least. What's it all about, this anal retentive stats fetish?

Good point. You'll have to raise this in the next drunken boong IQ thread. We haven't had one of them for a while.

Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth...


Quote:

Record Temperatures and Wildfires in Eastern Russia Forests and bog land in far eastern Russia have been burning since the beginning of June 2012. Contributing to the record fires have been the record temperatures of this past summer. This summer in Siberia has been one of hottest on record. The average temperature ranged around 93 degrees Fahrenheit and there doesn't seem to be any break in the weather coming anytime soon. The fires in eastern Russia have affected the districts of Krasnoyarsk, Tuva, Irkutsk, Kurgan, and the Republic of Khakassia. Especially hard hit is the city of Tomsk. According to official figures, over 24,000 acres of land had been burnt in Tomsk by early August. The city has been covered by heavy smog for weeks and the airport has been out of operation since the beginning of July. On August 23rd, the Russian Information and News Agency (RIA Novosti) reported that "firefighters extinguished all six forest fires over the past 24 hours that remained raging in Russia’s Siberia this summer, the regional forestry department said in a statement on Thursday. There are no more registered fires in the region, but the emergencies situation still remain in force in three areas of the Tomsk region due to the high risk of new wildfires outbreak," the statement added. However, it also reported that "more than 200,000 hectares [494.210 acres] of forest already burned down in Siberia and the Russian Far East, where fires are still raging, since the start of the summer." On August 28, RIA Novosti reported that: "The majority of wildfires triggered by the summer heat wave in Russia have been put out, but 11 wildfires with a total area of 838 hectares [over 2000 acres] are still raging in Khabarovsk Territory." These are the fires that still burn in the image taken today by the MODIS instrument on the Aqua satellite. Of course wildfires are devastating to any area, but ecologically this is catastrophic for this region with many rare animals living in Siberia's unique ecosystem. So to the fires burning in Russia will have worldwide effects as the torched peat bogs whose layers consist of dead plant materials will end up releasing large quantities of carbon dioxide into the air accelerating the greenhouse effect and making the air nearly unbreathable. Record numbers of fires in the summer of 2010 drew attention to this damaging situation (see NY Times article cited below). In the early 1900's Soviet engineers drained swamps to supply peat for electrical power stations. It was eventually stopped in the 1950's but the bogs were never reflooded. Unfortunately, that approach is currently causing some of the wildfire problems and air quality issues that Russia is dealing with today. Officials and residents are hoping that the upcoming expected harvest rains will help extinguish the wildfires and bring a much needed natural remedy to the affected regions.