http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/14694293/refugee-move-hasnt-hurt-reputation-carr/

Australia's human rights reputation is not suffering from the federal government's return to offshore processing of asylum seekers, Foreign Minister Bob Carr says.

Senator Carr said that also applied to a hunger strike underway at the Christmas Island Immigration Detention Centre by refugees who were told they could be transferred to Nauru or Manus Island for processing.

"Every country in the world is aware of the pressure of asylum seekers - there wouldn't be a country in Europe that would be at all surprised by the challenge for Australian policy makers or what's happening on Christmas Island," Senator Carr told reporters at an African mining conference in Perth on Wednesday.

"Irregular maritime arrivals is a fact of life in all the Mediterranean world and I can tell you from my conversations with colleagues in Asia that Australia doesn't suffer at all from any observation on how we handle this problem."

Senator Carr said he didn't expect there would be a repeat of the desperate actions taken by refugees in Australia previously, including sewing up their lips in protest.

"I would think there's less chance of that because what we're going through now is a very transparent process."

People smugglers would also have a less persuasive argument for convincing refugees to take the dangerous sea journey, he said.

Senator Carr said anyone who had read the recent report by the Angus Houston-led panel, which recommended a return to offshore processing, would accept the move was necessary.

"We're just not in a position to accept anyone brought into Australian waters by people smuggling."

The Department of Immigration on Tuesday said nine people were "on voluntary starvation" at the Christmas Island facility, compared to a reported 62 people on Saturday.

The department was being sought for an update on the strike.

Back in 2007 when Labor our reputation has suffered greatly therefore it had to get rid off the Pacific Solution

Now Labor is re-instating the Pacific Solution - but it is has since reinstated the Pacific Solution but believes it will do nothing to harm our reputation

So someone was telling a lie back in 2007 or Carr is telling  lie now!!!

Onshore processing in the community is the way to go..

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

Back in 2007 when Labor our reputation has suffered greatly therefore it had to get rid off the Pacific Solution Now Labor is re-instating the Pacific Solution - but it is has since reinstated the Pacific Solution but believes it will do nothing to harm our reputation So someone was telling a lie back in 2007 or Carr is telling  lie now!!!

Errr.. Macca -  are you at gold medal's humpy on the sherry?  You read a bit - well - pis$y!!!

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

Back in 2007 when Labor our reputation has suffered greatly therefore it had to get rid off the Pacific Solution Now Labor is re-instating the Pacific Solution - but it is has since reinstated the Pacific Solution but believes it will do nothing to harm our reputation So someone was telling a lie back in 2007 or Carr is telling  lie now!!!

It was a non-core commitment. Get over it.

Gist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:03pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 3:33pm: Back in 2007 when Labor our reputation has suffered greatly therefore it had to get rid off the Pacific Solution Now Labor is re-instating the Pacific Solution - but it is has since reinstated the Pacific Solution but believes it will do nothing to harm our reputation So someone was telling a lie back in 2007 or Carr is telling  lie now!!! It was a non-core commitment. Get over it.

wtf are u talking about?

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

Gist wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:03pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 3:33pm: Back in 2007 when Labor our reputation has suffered greatly therefore it had to get rid off the Pacific Solution Now Labor is re-instating the Pacific Solution - but it is has since reinstated the Pacific Solution but believes it will do nothing to harm our reputation So someone was telling a lie back in 2007 or Carr is telling  lie now!!! It was a non-core commitment. Get over it. wtf are u talking about?

I didnt know Rudd was still PM    ;D

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:26pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:24pm: Gist wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:03pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 3:33pm: Back in 2007 when Labor our reputation has suffered greatly therefore it had to get rid off the Pacific Solution Now Labor is re-instating the Pacific Solution - but it is has since reinstated the Pacific Solution but believes it will do nothing to harm our reputation So someone was telling a lie back in 2007 or Carr is telling  lie now!!! It was a non-core commitment. Get over it. wtf are u talking about? I didnt know Rudd was still PM    ;D

gillard went to the 2010 election with the same support for Labour's stance against Pacific Solution

Carr is wrong.

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:26pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:24pm: Gist wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:03pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 3:33pm: Back in 2007 when Labor our reputation has suffered greatly therefore it had to get rid off the Pacific Solution Now Labor is re-instating the Pacific Solution - but it is has since reinstated the Pacific Solution but believes it will do nothing to harm our reputation So someone was telling a lie back in 2007 or Carr is telling  lie now!!! It was a non-core commitment. Get over it. wtf are u talking about? I didnt know Rudd was still PM    ;D gillard went to the 2010 election with the same support for Labour's stance against Pacific Solution

The answer is simple..dont vote for Gillard or Abbott if you support onshore processing coz its the only way your gonna get it

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:29pm: adelcrow wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:26pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:24pm: Gist wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:03pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 3:33pm: Back in 2007 when Labor our reputation has suffered greatly therefore it had to get rid off the Pacific Solution Now Labor is re-instating the Pacific Solution - but it is has since reinstated the Pacific Solution but believes it will do nothing to harm our reputation So someone was telling a lie back in 2007 or Carr is telling  lie now!!! It was a non-core commitment. Get over it. wtf are u talking about? I didnt know Rudd was still PM    ;D gillard went to the 2010 election with the same support for Labour's stance against Pacific Solution The answer is simple..dont vote for Gillard or Abbott if you support onshore processing coz its the only way your gonna get it

Lets see how many support the Greens next election

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:32pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:29pm: adelcrow wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:26pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:24pm: Gist wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:03pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 3:33pm: Back in 2007 when Labor our reputation has suffered greatly therefore it had to get rid off the Pacific Solution Now Labor is re-instating the Pacific Solution - but it is has since reinstated the Pacific Solution but believes it will do nothing to harm our reputation So someone was telling a lie back in 2007 or Carr is telling  lie now!!! It was a non-core commitment. Get over it. wtf are u talking about? I didnt know Rudd was still PM    ;D gillard went to the 2010 election with the same support for Labour's stance against Pacific Solution The answer is simple..dont vote for Gillard or Abbott if you support onshore processing coz its the only way your gonna get it Lets see how many support the Greens next election

Then what are you complaining about..both Labor and the Libs now support the same policy you support.

so Forrest, explain are you for or against processing at Nauru? you can't have it both ways ....

John Smith wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:37pm:

so Forrest, explain are you for or against processing at Nauru? you can't have it both ways ....

The Pacific Solution got it right

LIBs got it right

Leftards got it wrong when they got ri off it in 2008

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:37pm: so Forrest, explain are you for or against processing at Nauru? you can't have it both ways .... The Pacific Solution got it right LIBs got it right Leftards got it wrong when they got ri off it in 2008

So u got what you wanted..why are u still complaining?

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:47pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:45pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:37pm: so Forrest, explain are you for or against processing at Nauru? you can't have it both ways .... The Pacific Solution got it right LIBs got it right Leftards got it wrong when they got ri off it in 2008 So u got what you wanted..why are u still complaining?

Just rubbing your noses in it

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:47pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:45pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:37pm: so Forrest, explain are you for or against processing at Nauru? you can't have it both ways .... The Pacific Solution got it right LIBs got it right Leftards got it wrong when they got ri off it in 2008 So u got what you wanted..why are u still complaining? Just rubbing your noses in it

Ok..you're bored  ;D

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:47pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:45pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:37pm: so Forrest, explain are you for or against processing at Nauru? you can't have it both ways .... The Pacific Solution got it right LIBs got it right Leftards got it wrong when they got ri off it in 2008 So u got what you wanted..why are u still complaining? Just rubbing your noses in it

you admit that you got what you wanted, you then cannot deny then that the libs are responsible for the latest drownings by asylum seekers ....

libs got there way ... lab hasn't had a chance to try malaysia yet. ..why are you on the other thread trying to blame it on labor?

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 3:49pm:

Onshore processing in the community is the way to go..

are you seriously happy that another boat has sunk because these people seriously think they will get in far quicker if they come her through the back door.instead of trying top claim asylum when they arrive at mascot.


you pretend that boats sinking isnt happening dont you??? amazing..if we have on shore processing how do you think they will get here????????????.

unless you are suggesting Qantas pick them up from Jakarta and be done with it..


well I suppose its one way of putting the people smuggler business out of business..its for sure Indonesia never will.

we dont forget its your dumb policy that brought them back into business in the first place.

John Smith wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 8:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:48pm: adelcrow wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:47pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:45pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:37pm: so Forrest, explain are you for or against processing at Nauru? you can't have it both ways .... The Pacific Solution got it right LIBs got it right Leftards got it wrong when they got ri off it in 2008 So u got what you wanted..why are u still complaining? Just rubbing your noses in it you admit that you got what you wanted, you then cannot deny then that the libs are responsible for the latest drownings by asylum seekers .... libs got there way ... lab hasn't had a chance to try malaysia yet. ..why are you on the other thread trying to blame it on labor?

well you will have to wait until the first lot get sent to Nauru and see if the boats stop then..

you see after the MALAYSIAN DEAL ended up in court there is still hope that this one will as well....and once again the people smugglers win..

the facts are sadly!!!!! the boats have more than increased since 2007...more people have drowned since 2007.. there is no way on earth you can deny or defend that..

I blame the heartless people smugglers.. and Indonesia to be honest..

and at the moment the people smugglers couldnt careless where these people end up.. as long as they can get more and more on the boats before the business dries up..


we do hope it will dry up dont we??? or are we hoping more people drown just so some can prove a point?? >:(

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 7:10am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 8:12pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:48pm: adelcrow wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:47pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:45pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:37pm: so Forrest, explain are you for or against processing at Nauru? you can't have it both ways .... The Pacific Solution got it right LIBs got it right Leftards got it wrong when they got ri off it in 2008 So u got what you wanted..why are u still complaining? Just rubbing your noses in it you admit that you got what you wanted, you then cannot deny then that the libs are responsible for the latest drownings by asylum seekers .... libs got there way ... lab hasn't had a chance to try malaysia yet. ..why are you on the other thread trying to blame it on labor? well you will have to wait until the first lot get sent to Nauru and see if the boats stop then.. you see after the MALAYSIAN DEAL ended up in court there is still hope that this one will as well....and once again the people smugglers win.. the facts are sadly!!!!! the boats have more than increased since 2007...more people have drowned since 2007.. there is no way on earth you can deny or defend that.. I blame the heartless people smugglers.. and Indonesia to be honest.. and at the moment the people smugglers couldnt careless where these people end up.. as long as they can get more and more on the boats before the business dries up.. we do hope it will dry up dont we??? or are we hoping more people drown just so some can prove a point?? >:(

Maybe you could ask Abbott that same question ...wasn't it the libs who told the US ambassador that the longer asylum seekers remained an issue the better for the Libs?

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 3:49pm:

Onshore processing in the community is the way to go..

That's been proven to be the least effective and least humanitarian option.